gratitude for reading intentions and help

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Dear Flick,

I am really grateful for your help besides

not expressing any doubt about my intentions. In fact

i am an ardent lover of this subject but could never

come across the books you mentioned. Same is the case

with my Guru.

The problem lies in the fact that i have seen him

giving such stunning readings that people have asked

him whether he had anything supernatural. He has time

and again told me not to study the books i have

purchased from New Delhi. I am at a point where there

is great theory at one side and a solid proved

practical at the other, and its quite tough to decide.

I have seen many members expressing their disapproval

rather questioning my integrity / request for help. I

dont know how to clear all this but if i had anything

like that then there wasn't any point in putting the

idea before all. I could have left the board or

whatever. I have tandered my unconditional appology to

all for the remarks as i never intended to hurt

anybody but i had to express them. May be it appeared

crude.

I even discussed the whole matter with my Guru through

a long distance call. He again asked me to ensure

myself by volunteering my own self to all the board

members and said that i should ask to get only my

marriage time/status or quality of marital life by

giving my birth data.

Now i am afraid whether this might also be disliked by

the board members or wont it be ???

anyhow my birth data is as follows and i especially

request you to kindly do it for my sake. Would you be

kind to do so?

I request for help yet again.

Mansha Yousuf

7th October,1963

at 15:35 (Local time at Peshawar)

Peshawar (34 N 01, 71 E 33)

Time Zone GMT + 5:30

Pakistan

--- Flick <rubysun wrote:

> One of my favourites is : Defouw, Hart & Svoboda,

> Robert, Light on Life, An

> Introduction to the Astrology of India: Penguin

> Books, New Delhi, 1996

> It does contain some horoscopes. This was the first

> book I ever read on

> Vedic astrology. It is inspiring and uplifting, as

> well as being very

> practical and thorough, and it left me with a

> blissful feeling.

>

> On 26/2/04 4:11 pm, "mansha yousuf"

> <manshasbp wrote:

>

> > Dear flick,

> > Thanks dear its so heartening to find

> care

> > from good friends wben one is groping in the

> darkness.

> > I did request for komilla sutton's book in my

> recent

> > order to M/S UBSPD but unfortunately i did not get

> it.

> > Hope to find it soon. Can you please let me know

> of

> > more? I have notable horoscopes of B V Raman.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Mansha Yousuf

> > --- Flick <rubysun wrote:

> >> If you give a life reading to a client, you need

> to

> >> focus on what your

> >> intuition tells you that person needs to know

> right

> >> now. If you were to use

> >> a whole life reading in a book, you would

> presumably

> >> be using it to

> >> demonstrate certain lessons. How could you leave

> >> some things out but include

> >> others?...it would be arbitrary. I've seen

> condenses

> >> life readings many

> >> times in books. Komilla Sutton (an Indian Vedic

> >> astrologer living in

> >> England) gives a condensed one for Prince

> William,

> >> including his dashas, but

> >> this fills only 34 pages of a 334 page book, so

> >> obviously can't be in much

> >> detail.

> >>

> >> When you said you haven't seen a life reading in

> >> books, I'm assuming you

> >> mean you haven't seen a long and detailed one.

> Apart

> >> from Komilla Sutton's

> >> Essentials of Vedic Astrology, I have books by P

> A

> >> Patel and B V Raman

> >> (among others) who give a number of charts of

> known

> >> people, though they

> >> don't go into great detail.

> >>

> >> On 26/2/04 3:09 pm, "mansha yousuf"

> >> <manshasbp wrote:

> >>

> >>> Dear Flick,

> >>> Thanks for your help and that too so immediate.

> I

> >>> tender my unconditional appology to anybody who

> >> gets

> >>> offended by the harshness of the words but i do

> >>> request to assimilate their soul. I have no

> really

> >> no

> >>> intention to create any conflict but i want to

> >> know i

> >>> want to learn and i want to get a reason for

> what

> >> i

> >>> have learned over the times.

> >>> Please explain as to how it takes a volume as

> life

> >>> readings are given by astrologers and when two

> or

> >>> three pages can give some events then how come

> it

> >> cant

> >>> be done in some good 30 pages. Please do help.

> >>> Regards

> >>> Mansha Yousuf

> >>> --- Flick <rubysun wrote:

> >>>> Mansha, to do a complex life reading would take

> a

> >>>> whole volume in itself.

> >>>> Writers tend to use details from the charts of

> >>>> famous people to demonstrate

> >>>> specific points.

> >

> >>>> On 26/2/04 2:33 pm, "manshasbp"

> >>>> <manshasbp wrote:

> >>>>

> >>>>> He asks as to why just single event or two in

> a

> >>>> horoscope are

> >>>>> discussed but not a complete reading of life

> is

> >>>> given in any book.

> >>>>> Even i am at loss to understand as to why

> books

> >>>> having great volumes

> >>>>> like the ones authored by L R Chawdhri or V K

> >>>> Chaudhry or G S Aggarwal

> >>>>> or Allen Leo dont do it.

>

>

 

 

 

 

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[Guest guest]

Hi Mansha,

 

You are very welcome. I understand your dilemma. However, you are the only

person in the end who can decide your beliefs and how to learn. Maybe your

teacher doesn't need to study books, but maybe this is a way that you find

good for learning. In every teacher student relationship there comes a time

when the student must begin to think for themselves. A good teacher will

also learn from the student. None of us is so enlightened that we can't

learn. If you find books useful, then learn them. Your intuition will

develop after you have laid down a foundation of knowledge of

jyotish...before you can speak in a language, you must learn its rules!

 

I wish I could do your chart for you. Firstly I am still learning myself.

Although I have many years of dealing with clients in western astrology, I'm

still very much a student of jyotish, and in fact am working through an ACVA

approved correspondence course. The second problem is that I currently have

no software for Vedic astrology. I used to use Parashara's Light 2000 when I

had a PC. I switched to Mac last year and nobody so far does Vedic software

that will run on the Apple Macintosh OS X platform. I have a new G5 which

won't boot into OS 9 and the demos I've tried (such as Gorovani's Jyotish)

won't load in Classic (the emulator which bridges the two OS's). I'm waiting

for the long promised native OS X version of Parashara's Light 6.

 

I'm sure the other people on the list bear you no grudge, especially as you

have explained that you were not criticising their country or gurus.

Hopefully one of them will be able to look at your chart for you.

 

With many blessings,

Flick.

 

On 27/2/04 2:03 pm, "mansha yousuf" <manshasbp wrote:

 

> Dear Flick,

> I am really grateful for your help besides

> not expressing any doubt about my intentions. In fact

> i am an ardent lover of this subject but could never

> come across the books you mentioned. Same is the case

> with my Guru.

> The problem lies in the fact that i have seen him

> giving such stunning readings that people have asked

> him whether he had anything supernatural. He has time

> and again told me not to study the books i have

> purchased from New Delhi. I am at a point where there

> is great theory at one side and a solid proved

> practical at the other, and its quite tough to decide.

> I have seen many members expressing their disapproval

> rather questioning my integrity / request for help. I

> dont know how to clear all this but if i had anything

> like that then there wasn't any point in putting the

> idea before all. I could have left the board or

> whatever. I have tandered my unconditional appology to

> all for the remarks as i never intended to hurt

> anybody but i had to express them. May be it appeared

> crude.

> I even discussed the whole matter with my Guru through

> a long distance call. He again asked me to ensure

> myself by volunteering my own self to all the board

> members and said that i should ask to get only my

> marriage time/status or quality of marital life by

> giving my birth data.

> Now i am afraid whether this might also be disliked by

> the board members or wont it be ???

> anyhow my birth data is as follows and i especially

> request you to kindly do it for my sake. Would you be

> kind to do so?

> I request for help yet again.

> Mansha Yousuf

> 7th October,1963

> at 15:35 (Local time at Peshawar)

> Peshawar (34 N 01, 71 E 33)

> Time Zone GMT + 5:30

> Pakistan

> --- Flick <rubysun wrote:

>> One of my favourites is : Defouw, Hart & Svoboda,

>> Robert, Light on Life, An

>> Introduction to the Astrology of India: Penguin

>> Books, New Delhi, 1996

>> It does contain some horoscopes. This was the first

>> book I ever read on

>> Vedic astrology. It is inspiring and uplifting, as

>> well as being very

>> practical and thorough, and it left me with a

>> blissful feeling.

>>

>> On 26/2/04 4:11 pm, "mansha yousuf"

>> <manshasbp wrote:

>>

>>> Dear flick,

>>> Thanks dear its so heartening to find

>> care

>>> from good friends wben one is groping in the

>> darkness.

>>> I did request for komilla sutton's book in my

>> recent

>>> order to M/S UBSPD but unfortunately i did not get

>> it.

>>> Hope to find it soon. Can you please let me know

>> of

>>> more? I have notable horoscopes of B V Raman.

>>>

>>> Thanks

>>> Mansha Yousuf

>>> --- Flick <rubysun wrote:

>>>> If you give a life reading to a client, you need

>> to

>>>> focus on what your

>>>> intuition tells you that person needs to know

>> right

>>>> now. If you were to use

>>>> a whole life reading in a book, you would

>> presumably

>>>> be using it to

>>>> demonstrate certain lessons. How could you leave

>>>> some things out but include

>>>> others?...it would be arbitrary. I've seen

>> condenses

>>>> life readings many

>>>> times in books. Komilla Sutton (an Indian Vedic

>>>> astrologer living in

>>>> England) gives a condensed one for Prince

>> William,

>>>> including his dashas, but

>>>> this fills only 34 pages of a 334 page book, so

>>>> obviously can't be in much

>>>> detail.

>>>>

>>>> When you said you haven't seen a life reading in

>>>> books, I'm assuming you

>>>> mean you haven't seen a long and detailed one.

>> Apart

>>>> from Komilla Sutton's

>>>> Essentials of Vedic Astrology, I have books by P

>> A

>>>> Patel and B V Raman

>>>> (among others) who give a number of charts of

>> known

>>>> people, though they

>>>> don't go into great detail.

>>>>

>>>> On 26/2/04 3:09 pm, "mansha yousuf"

>>>> <manshasbp wrote:

>>>>

>>>>> Dear Flick,

>>>>> Thanks for your help and that too so immediate.

>> I

>>>>> tender my unconditional appology to anybody who

>>>> gets

>>>>> offended by the harshness of the words but i do

>>>>> request to assimilate their soul. I have no

>> really

>>>> no

>>>>> intention to create any conflict but i want to

>>>> know i

>>>>> want to learn and i want to get a reason for

>> what

>>>> i

>>>>> have learned over the times.

>>>>> Please explain as to how it takes a volume as

>> life

>>>>> readings are given by astrologers and when two

>> or

>>>>> three pages can give some events then how come

>> it

>>>> cant

>>>>> be done in some good 30 pages. Please do help.

>>>>> Regards

>>>>> Mansha Yousuf

>>>>> --- Flick <rubysun wrote:

>>>>>> Mansha, to do a complex life reading would take

>> a

>>>>>> whole volume in itself.

>>>>>> Writers tend to use details from the charts of

>>>>>> famous people to demonstrate

>>>>>> specific points.

>>>

>>>>>> On 26/2/04 2:33 pm, "manshasbp"

>>>>>> <manshasbp wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> He asks as to why just single event or two in

>> a

>>>>>> horoscope are

>>>>>>> discussed but not a complete reading of life

>> is

>>>>>> given in any book.

>>>>>>> Even i am at loss to understand as to why

>> books

>>>>>> having great volumes

>>>>>>> like the ones authored by L R Chawdhri or V K

>>>>>> Chaudhry or G S Aggarwal

>>>>>>> or Allen Leo dont do it.