Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Not sure if the 1st posting went out...resending... Dear Mansha, All: With all due respects to everyone. I will quote this simple story again... "A Professor drew a line on the blackboard. He then asked students to make this line shorter. Immediately the students got up and started to erase one corner while some other started to erase another corner.. The professor said " Dont touch the line; Dont hate it; Dont hurt it. Without touching it, without any feeling of enmity, try and make the line shorter".. All the students became quiet and they could not do anything. The professor then said that he would make the line shorter without touching it. He then drew another line which was longer than the first line. Then he said "Didnt I make the first line shorter?". So what is the moral. One doesnt have to burn books or others writings. There is so much space for Gurus and astrologer and people and everyone else to GROW. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PUT SOMEBODY ELSE DOWN IN ORDER TO GO HIGHER....do your good karma and find peace within yourself. I hope we all get the essence here in context of what Mansha wrote. With due respects and regards to everyone. --Sanjay Aggarwal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 In fact, a couple of years back when the government decided to bring in astrology as a UGC sponsored course in the Indian universities, I watched a programme on the Star TV, known as Big Fight. It was being moderated by Rajdeep Sardesai. There was a professional astrologer, a representative from the BJP party and a Mathematician from Ramanujam institute of Mathematics, Chennai. The audience consisted of a predominantly student crowd. There was a very aggressive debate on astrology. The mathematician kept on telling why astrology cannot be beleived. When the debate was thrown open to the audience, a Standard 6 student very seriously asked the mathematician," Uncle, have you studied astrology". The mathematician aid with arrogance," I dont even want to know about it, leave alone study". For which the little kid retorted back, " dont you think you are making a fool of yourself by trying to be part of the debate not knowing anything on the core subject of astrolgy" I hope the kid opened his eyes. The moral of the story is never debate on a subject which you dont know. Regards, John --- sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology wrote: > Not sure if the 1st posting went out...resending... > > Dear Mansha, All: > > With all due respects to everyone. I will quote this > simple story > again... > > "A Professor drew a line on the blackboard. He then > asked students > to make this line shorter. Immediately the students > got up and > started to erase one corner while some other started > to erase > another corner.. The professor said " Dont touch the > line; Dont hate > it; Dont hurt it. Without touching it, without any > feeling of > enmity, try and make the line shorter".. All the > students became > quiet and they could not do anything. > > The professor then said that he would make the line > shorter without > touching it. He then drew another line which was > longer than the > first line. Then he said "Didnt I make the first > line shorter?". > > So what is the moral. One doesnt have to burn books > or others > writings. There is so much space for Gurus and > astrologer and people > and everyone else to GROW. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PUT > SOMEBODY ELSE > DOWN IN ORDER TO GO HIGHER....do your good karma and > find peace > within yourself. > > I hope we all get the essence here in context of > what Mansha wrote. > > With due respects and regards to everyone. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal > > Get better spam protection with Mail. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 On 26/2/04 3:24 pm, "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology wrote: > "Didnt I make the first line shorter?". He didn't make it shorter...he just made it shorter than the second line, but it's inherent length remained the same ;-) I didn't see Mansha's first message as any form of one-upmanship or need to create conflict. I assumed him to be in need of reassurance about certain points. He wants to embrace Jyotish and learn from an Indian perspective, but he has a teacher he respects, who has spoken negatively about it. He, in a kind of way, wants permission to strike out with his own beliefs and opinions, but he needs something concrete to go on before doing so. This is perfectly natural and understandable, and I've seen it many times when people begin to think for themselves and forge their own path spiritually. He's asking to be convinced before he will move to the point where he can respect his teacher but realise that he, Mansha, must ultimately form his own beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Well said sanjay ... there are two ways of being great: a) be really great b) show others to be lower ... I presume real greatness is so towering that no one else needs to be compared to it ... and the second is obviously the easier path that we are all so used to use !! --- sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology wrote: > Not sure if the 1st posting went out...resending... > > Dear Mansha, All: > > With all due respects to everyone. I will quote this > simple story > again... > > "A Professor drew a line on the blackboard. He then > asked students > to make this line shorter. Immediately the students > got up and > started to erase one corner while some other started > to erase > another corner.. The professor said " Dont touch the > line; Dont hate > it; Dont hurt it. Without touching it, without any > feeling of > enmity, try and make the line shorter".. All the > students became > quiet and they could not do anything. > > The professor then said that he would make the line > shorter without > touching it. He then drew another line which was > longer than the > first line. Then he said "Didnt I make the first > line shorter?". > > So what is the moral. One doesnt have to burn books > or others > writings. There is so much space for Gurus and > astrologer and people > and everyone else to GROW. YOU DO NOT HAVE TO PUT > SOMEBODY ELSE > DOWN IN ORDER TO GO HIGHER....do your good karma and > find peace > within yourself. > > I hope we all get the essence here in context of > what Mansha wrote. > > With due respects and regards to everyone. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal > > Get better spam protection with Mail. http://antispam./tools Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2004 Report Share Posted February 26, 2004 Exactly. The essense of the "line story" is basically raise your standards without pointing a finger at someone else. Make excellence a habit, not an act and do so without demaning others. When someone being a GURU preaches about burning books and all that, it gives me the famous saying in the GITA "Asambhutim leads to blindness, Sambhutim leads to further blindness...the idea is to manifest one through the other". Hope we all get the point. Rgds. --Sanjay , Flick <rubysun@n...> wrote: > On 26/2/04 3:24 pm, "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology> wrote: > > > "Didnt I make the first line shorter?". > > He didn't make it shorter...he just made it shorter than the second line, > but it's inherent length remained the same ;-) > > I didn't see Mansha's first message as any form of one-upmanship or need to > create conflict. I assumed him to be in need of reassurance about certain > points. He wants to embrace Jyotish and learn from an Indian perspective, > but he has a teacher he respects, who has spoken negatively about it. He, in > a kind of way, wants permission to strike out with his own beliefs and > opinions, but he needs something concrete to go on before doing so. This is > perfectly natural and understandable, and I've seen it many times when > people begin to think for themselves and forge their own path spiritually. > He's asking to be convinced before he will move to the point where he can > respect his teacher but realise that he, Mansha, must ultimately form his > own beliefs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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