Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Thanks for your mail. I am also a student but try to participate and ask questions. I can do some predictions (some basic areas of life) and have tried to help people ----------> but lack of feedback has been discouraging since that does not help to understand your predictions closely. Feedback is very essential for everybody. If people discuss their chart or some other chart they must give feedbacks, thats a learning for everybody. We can then only optimize our predictions understanding. Even if people are students, they can also benifit the ones who are good by asking questions. Knowledge is never complete and so many people on this forum who are really good even now refuse to accept themselves as Gurus. You will be amazed to know that those who are good also will learn or further strengthen their views in certain areas. However this is just my view and I hope you and other members will agree with it. I can only request, with 1400 + members, I sure hope that we see atleast 50-100 mails a day but seems it is really low sometimes. Regards Sanjaygogatea <gogatea (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Sanjay, I agree with you. But many members are not full fledged astrologers but just inquisitive about astrology. Some just come to forum to know more about themselves. Some have contacted me personally if I could help them. So , in such situation, many members use the forum to get information or just to know email ids of other astrologers. However , those who are experts and experienced should share their knowledge so that others can get benefited. What surprises me is there are few people who ask questions which are indicative of their wish to learn astrology, most of the questions are directed either to their own analysis or solution to some problem. Regards, Anil - Sanjay Chadha Sunday, February 22, 2004 8:29 AM Re: GHOR-TAMAS YOGA....Explanation by HP theory.. with an example This was a very interesting article. I noticed that we have more than 1000 members in the forum, but very few post and participants. Lets make this forum a active participation ground and learn from each other. Look forward to it. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Friends, As promised, I am posting first instalment of Explanation of GTY with HP method. Hope that this will bring you closer to understanding Rahu Maharaj . I have received some startling proofs from readers who have sent their life stories which are very sad and painful.After getting their permission, I will post their horoscopes to understand this yoga. GHOR TAMAS YOGA Saturn and Rahu combining in any house in a horoscope, leaves a lasting effect on the bhava concerned and in addition it affects a lot of different facets of life. I have seen effect of this yoga even after the person dies. His off springs have been found to bear the brunt of the after effects of Ghor Tamas Yoga. This also affects wife, children, parents etc. during the life time. I am trying to bring to you what I have observed during my Astro life on this yoga, its effects and related things. I have seen that their married life is always (Almost always) affected. They are at both ends. Receiving end and imparting end. I have seen people with GTY inflicting untold pain on their spouses and also seen women with GTY suffering untold miseries due to their spouses inflicting pain/punishments etc. GTY have been found to results in some cases in untimely death due to poisoning, Overdose of drugs, excessive drinking, drowning or accidents etc. I have seen that many people with GTY are intelligent, happy go lucky types, some times brilliant economists, poets, painters, science and computer scientists/researchers/ professionals. John Milton had it in 3rd house. They are religious , some times going to extremes .They are fanatics to the core for their beliefs. I know of an young man doing pooja for hours, offers namaskaram to a single idol fifty sixty times in a row mumbling something. They have obsession about religious rites , mantras, pooja etc. I have seen them talking to themselves. Some GTY people are Merciless in their pursuits. Extremely hungry and thirsty for anything , may it be power, money , lust etc. To get what they want, they move like road roller sparing nothing, crushing destroying, killing all oppositions etc. They are deaf to all sensitivities and sensibility. Caesar had in 8th house and Queen Victoria had it in 11th house. They have a remarkable capability to plan and execute. They can go to any depth to understand the subject. They have a remarkable capacity to store knowledge. I have seen very humble persons with this combination. They also show remarkable capacity to withstand pain and misery. They can laugh at their problems, they make others laugh. I have seen ever smiling people with this yoga. They can hide almost anything, including emotions. They can sacrifice anything for their children's happiness. Over the years, I have come to admire these people for their ability to stand like a rock. GTY makes one gamble. They would sell everything to gamble. To get the money, to gamble, they can go to any extreme. They have uncontrollable anger. This is especially true if they have GTY in the fifth bhava or 12th bhava. As rulers they would gamble anything to win eg. Tipu Sultan had it in 12th. As enemies , it is not wise to have a person with GTY if this is present in 6th house of your opponent. They cheat their spouses , family to satisfy their lust if found in 7th and 10th house. They would be prepared to go to any extreme to get their love. Extremes of religion, ancestral pride going to fanaticism, raw un calculativeness due to anger and rigid beliefs are present when 9th house is affected. prophet Mohammed had GTY in 10th (Ketu+sani) REASONS FOR GHOR-TAMAS-YOGA BEING SO EVIL. GTY operates in different fashion than what we usually think. I am giving a practical example of a typical GTY person. The reasons are given in discussing his horoscope. A lot has been written about this yoga and other Yogas found in a horoscope. Generally no explanation is given for any yoga about the reasons for it being good or bad except may be the yoga karakas being malefics or owing bad houses. My explanation as per HP theory is based on pure logic and principles of HP. Let us take the horoscope of a person . MALE dob : 4th January 1956 Time : 12.15 pm Place : 18 E 22' 6 S 51' 39" Lagna : Aquarius 26 degrees Ketu : Taurus Jupiter : Leo Moon : Virgo Sa+Ra+Ma: scorpio Sun : Sagittarius Ven+Merc: Capricorn GTY IN 10TH HOUSE. Effects : This person is a product of premier Business and engineering schools of India. He is a brilliant strategist, presently working for an American s/w company in India in a top position. Married with a 12 year old daughter. 1) Cheated wife all throughout married life till today. 2) Involved in criminal cases filed by govt corporation for technical fraud. 3) Has un satiable hunger for money and position. 4) Admitted to wife that he is a male prostitute serving his lady boss. 5) Mentally torturing his wife for number of years. 6) Does not care as to what world thinks of him. 7) Always telling lies. 8) Always working and planning to make MILLIONS on the side. 9) Always thinks only in crooked ways 10) Uses services of a Tantrik . 11) Highly superstitious. Does Uchhista Mantra Japas. 12) Presently pressurizing his wife for divorce. 13) His brothers are his enemies. Parents are old and powerless. And unhappy. HOW GTY OPERATES AS PER HP THEORY? 1) If you take present lagna as Badhaka Lagna (Since he has Rahu in 10th), Saturn is his badha lagna Lord in 10th with Rahu. So he can never do straight business. Rahu is aspecting BL with reverse 10th aspect.!! His 7th lord Sun is in VM. So he will torture his wife. Sun is his Atma, see it under GRAHANA by Rahu. Now take Moon, his Manasa..Take reverse aspect of Rahu (As per HP, Sani Vat Rahu ). Rahu aspects with 3rd full aspect. Hence his Mind also spoiled by Rahu. Now take his 9th lord Venus the Dharmadhipati. Saturn aspects fully .Saturn now is spoiled by being with Rahu. Making parents unhappy and caring a damn about bad kirti to his family. Take 5th lord Mercury. The lord of Thoughts and brain power. Fully aspected by Spoiled Sani. Also affecting his daughter as it is 5th lord. 2nd lord Jupiter fully aspected by Saturn with 10th Aspect makes him always short of money. Hence he will do anything for money. A single GTY affecting a horoscope from both savya aspect (Clock wise)of Saturn and Apasavya aspect (Anti clock wise) of Rahu. It is like a fall out of Atomic debri from sky. Thus this is the reason why Ghor Tamas Yoga affects people very badly. IMPORTANT:::::: The beauty of HP method is You can analyze this horoscope in YBL, KL, BL mode. And by any mode, the result , always is almost the same.!! You will be surprised that only HP method gives complete picture by looking at this horoscope in any HP modes. To be continued...... Raam Rahave Namah: Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Mail SpamGuard - Read only the mail you want. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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