Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Your feedback has strengthened HP theory's simple and yet powerful concept. The jathaka died of heart attack on 22nd June 2002.(I had thought Surya bhukti followed by Guru bhukti to have killed him before you gave the death date, but your feedback shows more power to kaalant lord from Rahu) EXPLANATION: I have stated that 12th house is to be called KAALANT and 12th Lord to be called KAALANT lord. Hence in this KL horoscope, Rahu (As its dispositor becomes Maraka), Sun as 8th lord , Jupiter as 12th lord become very powerful Marakas. The person died of Heart attack on 22nd june 2002 HE WAS RUNNING, RAHU DASA HE WAS RUNNING , GURU BHUKTI HE WAS RUNNING GURU-GURU SUB-SUB HE HAD STARTED SURYA PRANANTARDASA ON 22ND JUNE 2002. Wonderful indeed. Thank you Sanjay....I think, with data available with me, and somemore feedbacks, we should be able to determine Maraka strength of Maraka sthanadhipathis. For the present it looks 12th, 8th, 2nd and 6th lords (All.... VM ) showing powerful marakatwa. Rgds Hemant TrivediSanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishiji, My apologies. I really have not been able to go very deep into HP theory, although I had spent some time on it. I plan to do it sometimes in near future. This person died on 22nd June, 2002 from a heart attack in the night at around 10:00PM-12:00 PM. I hope it helps in testing the theory. Please do let me know if I can answer any questions. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I deeply appreciate promptness with which you have replied to my posting with a counter testing question. First thing is, You have not given yourself enough time to understand various factors leading to one's death as specified by me. Please give yourself atleast couple of hours to understand and apply the arguements . As such if time and other birth details are true, then this case is meant to be An Alpayur Yoga. The birth itself shows Balarishta Yoga. Second thing is, since we are testing a theory, it is always important to do BACKWARD ENGINEERING. You should , if you really do not understand HP or for that any other theory, give the date of demise and ask the question, why this person died in this dasa period. I am requesting all the discerning readers to please do this exercise. Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Enclosed details of a person who is no longer alive. Can you please tell when he died using this theory, I have not been able to figure this out successfully using my limited knowledge. 3 Feb 1972 Time: 21:30 PM New Delhi. Regards Sanjaychaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:END OF THE ROAD.::What begins has to come to an end. This is a journey of SHIVA tatwa till it reaches SHAVA stage. A body starts losing energy(E Kaar or Life force) immediately after being born.Life is thus Time bound. Life too has to come to an end.Vedic astrology has a lot of literature based on Parashara, Jaimini, and so many sidhhantas with their rules on Balarishta, Life-span calculations methods etc.Some of the methods are extremely complicated. While I have been working on Rahu, I have found that he is the only Planet called KALA or Time or Death.Rahu-Ketu signify beginning and End. No wonder Ketu is the only planet associated with Liberation of Atman and is known as MOKSHA KARAKA.So adhering to the principle of HP system,I formed the following theory.1) Since Rahu is the beginning, He should be placed in 1st house to indicate start of the Life's journey.2) This lagna with Rahu in it will be known as KAALA LAGNA or in short "KL". 2nd from Rahu will be KAALA MUKHA rasi and 12th from Rahu is KAALANTA Rasi (End of the road)(Actually it is sub division of VM)3) Planets in 2nd, 12 th from Rahu Ketu are termed as planets in VISHA MUKHA or simply VM.4) Follow Nakshatra dasa as usual (Presently) and apply other Parashara siddhhantas along with HP.I took up four cases for study which are Dirghayusya, Madhyayushaya, Balarishta and Alpayur yoga jatakas.The result , as usual is stunning.BABY (Balarishta) Infant Mortality case.Born : 24 sept. 2003 Bijapur Time..7.52 AM.Died : 30th Sept. 2003Cause of Death : Stomach problem Kidneys malformed.Janma Lagna : Tula KL: MeshaAquarius: Mars(Retro)Aries: RahuGemini: SaturnLeo: Jup, Moon, MercuryVirgo: Sun, VenusDasa at birth, Ketu-sani-Budhaa) Dasa Natha Ketu in 7th Maraka sthanam aspected by Rahub) Dispositor of Dasa Natha, Venus in Kaalanta in 12th from it.c)Jupiter, Moon and Mercury fully aspected by Rahu (Apasavya dristi)and also aspected by Saturn. Sun spoiled by being with 2nd and 7th lord and also aspected fully by Mars.d) Moon spoiled by Jupiter, the KAALANTA lord and Mercury the 3rd and 6th lord.RESULT...Child died on 6th day as predicted by me.Cause of Death : Stomach problem ,Kidneys malformed.No urinary tract was formed.DIRGHAYU JATAKAMale:Born: 15th December 1892 at Rajkot 1.22 pmJanma Lagna: PiscesKL : AriesRahu : AriesSaturn : VirgoKetu : LibraMoon : LibraVenus : LibraMercury : scorpioMars : AquariusJupiter : PiscesDasa At Birth: Rahu DasaExpired in 1982 NovemberDasa at the time of Death : Moon-Rahu-Guru.Mark Dasa Lord Moon in 7th with Venus another Maraka Mark SEPERATOR Ketu also spoiling Moon and venus.Mark sub dasa lord Rahu in 7th from Dasa Natha.Mark Kaalanta lord Mercury in Ayushya sthana in 8th.Mark sub-sub dasa lord Guru in KAALANT RASI aspected by Saturn.RESULT: The jathaka expired at ripe old age crossing 90 and odd years in MOON-RAHU-JUPITER periodMIDDLE AGE (Madhyayu)MaleBorn 4.8.1944Janma Lagna : VirgoKL : CancerSun,Rahu, Venus : Cancer Merc,Jup,Mars : LeoMoon, Ketu : CapricornSaturn : GeminiDasa at Birth : MoonDasa at the time of Death : Saturn-Venus-Saturn-Ketu on 19th May 1999Mark Saturn becoming lord of 7th and 8th house in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th of KL.Mark Bhukti lord Venus in VM with 2nd Maraka lord Sun in 2nd from Saturn.Mark sub-sub also in same position.Jupiter , the Jeeva in maraka 2nd house with Mars aspected by Saturn from Kaalanta Rasi.Moon the Jeeva, Sun , the Atma and Ascendent are all spoiled beyond repair.The Jataka died of Cancer of Mouth. Mark evil combinations in KL and 2nd from KL.DEATH BY ACCIDENT;MALE20.6.1950Janma Lagna : CapricornKL,Rahu : Capricorn Venus : TaurusSun,Merc : GeminiSaturn : LeoMars, Ketu : VirgoMoon : ScorpioDasa at Birth : MercuryDasa at time of Death: Moon-Rahu-Saturn-Ketu on 22.2.1986Mark Dasa natha in Debilitation aspected by 7th and 8th lords.Mark Dasa natha Moon aspected by Rahu by reverse aspect.Lagna Lord Jupiter in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th aspected by Kaalanta Lord Saturn.Sub dasa lord Rahu aspected by Mars and its dispositor Guru in 12th in Kaalanta.Both sub-sub and sub-sub-sub lords Saturn and Ketu are spoiled by aspect and association.RESULT: The jathaka died of car accident on 22.2.1986 Thus, I have tried to prove HP theory principles working in determination of MRITYU KARAKAS and Maraka periods.I welcome readers who have similar horoscopes with them , to try and apply HP principles to check if they hold water in other cases.I am trying out yet another form of Dasa which may hold the key to a lot of aspects of life including THE DEATH.That , I will touch upon in days to come.To be contd......RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH: ~! 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Thanks for your response. I just checked, on 22nd June, 2002, he was under Rahu-Venus-Rahu- Sun-Venus dasha (I use Parashara Software for this data), unless something is wrong here. I will request you to check this again. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, Your feedback has strengthened HP theory's simple and yet powerful concept. The jathaka died of heart attack on 22nd June 2002.(I had thought Surya bhukti followed by Guru bhukti to have killed him before you gave the death date, but your feedback shows more power to kaalant lord from Rahu) EXPLANATION: I have stated that 12th house is to be called KAALANT and 12th Lord to be called KAALANT lord. Hence in this KL horoscope, Rahu (As its dispositor becomes Maraka), Sun as 8th lord , Jupiter as 12th lord become very powerful Marakas. The person died of Heart attack on 22nd june 2002 HE WAS RUNNING, RAHU DASA HE WAS RUNNING , GURU BHUKTI HE WAS RUNNING GURU-GURU SUB-SUB HE HAD STARTED SURYA PRANANTARDASA ON 22ND JUNE 2002. Wonderful indeed. Thank you Sanjay....I think, with data available with me, and somemore feedbacks, we should be able to determine Maraka strength of Maraka sthanadhipathis. For the present it looks 12th, 8th, 2nd and 6th lords (All.... VM ) showing powerful marakatwa. Rgds Hemant TrivediSanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishiji, My apologies. I really have not been able to go very deep into HP theory, although I had spent some time on it. I plan to do it sometimes in near future. This person died on 22nd June, 2002 from a heart attack in the night at around 10:00PM-12:00 PM. I hope it helps in testing the theory. Please do let me know if I can answer any questions. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I deeply appreciate promptness with which you have replied to my posting with a counter testing question. First thing is, You have not given yourself enough time to understand various factors leading to one's death as specified by me. Please give yourself atleast couple of hours to understand and apply the arguements . As such if time and other birth details are true, then this case is meant to be An Alpayur Yoga. The birth itself shows Balarishta Yoga. Second thing is, since we are testing a theory, it is always important to do BACKWARD ENGINEERING. You should , if you really do not understand HP or for that any other theory, give the date of demise and ask the question, why this person died in this dasa period. I am requesting all the discerning readers to please do this exercise. Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Enclosed details of a person who is no longer alive. Can you please tell when he died using this theory, I have not been able to figure this out successfully using my limited knowledge. 3 Feb 1972 Time: 21:30 PM New Delhi. Regards Sanjaychaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:END OF THE ROAD.::What begins has to come to an end. This is a journey of SHIVA tatwa till it reaches SHAVA stage. A body starts losing energy(E Kaar or Life force) immediately after being born.Life is thus Time bound. Life too has to come to an end.Vedic astrology has a lot of literature based on Parashara, Jaimini, and so many sidhhantas with their rules on Balarishta, Life-span calculations methods etc.Some of the methods are extremely complicated. While I have been working on Rahu, I have found that he is the only Planet called KALA or Time or Death.Rahu-Ketu signify beginning and End. No wonder Ketu is the only planet associated with Liberation of Atman and is known as MOKSHA KARAKA.So adhering to the principle of HP system,I formed the following theory.1) Since Rahu is the beginning, He should be placed in 1st house to indicate start of the Life's journey.2) This lagna with Rahu in it will be known as KAALA LAGNA or in short "KL". 2nd from Rahu will be KAALA MUKHA rasi and 12th from Rahu is KAALANTA Rasi (End of the road)(Actually it is sub division of VM)3) Planets in 2nd, 12 th from Rahu Ketu are termed as planets in VISHA MUKHA or simply VM.4) Follow Nakshatra dasa as usual (Presently) and apply other Parashara siddhhantas along with HP.I took up four cases for study which are Dirghayusya, Madhyayushaya, Balarishta and Alpayur yoga jatakas.The result , as usual is stunning.BABY (Balarishta) Infant Mortality case.Born : 24 sept. 2003 Bijapur Time..7.52 AM.Died : 30th Sept. 2003Cause of Death : Stomach problem Kidneys malformed.Janma Lagna : Tula KL: MeshaAquarius: Mars(Retro)Aries: RahuGemini: SaturnLeo: Jup, Moon, MercuryVirgo: Sun, VenusDasa at birth, Ketu-sani-Budhaa) Dasa Natha Ketu in 7th Maraka sthanam aspected by Rahub) Dispositor of Dasa Natha, Venus in Kaalanta in 12th from it.c)Jupiter, Moon and Mercury fully aspected by Rahu (Apasavya dristi)and also aspected by Saturn. Sun spoiled by being with 2nd and 7th lord and also aspected fully by Mars.d) Moon spoiled by Jupiter, the KAALANTA lord and Mercury the 3rd and 6th lord.RESULT...Child died on 6th day as predicted by me.Cause of Death : Stomach problem ,Kidneys malformed.No urinary tract was formed.DIRGHAYU JATAKAMale:Born: 15th December 1892 at Rajkot 1.22 pmJanma Lagna: PiscesKL : AriesRahu : AriesSaturn : VirgoKetu : LibraMoon : LibraVenus : LibraMercury : scorpioMars : AquariusJupiter : PiscesDasa At Birth: Rahu DasaExpired in 1982 NovemberDasa at the time of Death : Moon-Rahu-Guru.Mark Dasa Lord Moon in 7th with Venus another Maraka Mark SEPERATOR Ketu also spoiling Moon and venus.Mark sub dasa lord Rahu in 7th from Dasa Natha.Mark Kaalanta lord Mercury in Ayushya sthana in 8th.Mark sub-sub dasa lord Guru in KAALANT RASI aspected by Saturn.RESULT: The jathaka expired at ripe old age crossing 90 and odd years in MOON-RAHU-JUPITER periodMIDDLE AGE (Madhyayu)MaleBorn 4.8.1944Janma Lagna : VirgoKL : CancerSun,Rahu, Venus : Cancer Merc,Jup,Mars : LeoMoon, Ketu : CapricornSaturn : GeminiDasa at Birth : MoonDasa at the time of Death : Saturn-Venus-Saturn-Ketu on 19th May 1999Mark Saturn becoming lord of 7th and 8th house in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th of KL.Mark Bhukti lord Venus in VM with 2nd Maraka lord Sun in 2nd from Saturn.Mark sub-sub also in same position.Jupiter , the Jeeva in maraka 2nd house with Mars aspected by Saturn from Kaalanta Rasi.Moon the Jeeva, Sun , the Atma and Ascendent are all spoiled beyond repair.The Jataka died of Cancer of Mouth. Mark evil combinations in KL and 2nd from KL.DEATH BY ACCIDENT;MALE20.6.1950Janma Lagna : CapricornKL,Rahu : Capricorn Venus : TaurusSun,Merc : GeminiSaturn : LeoMars, Ketu : VirgoMoon : ScorpioDasa at Birth : MercuryDasa at time of Death: Moon-Rahu-Saturn-Ketu on 22.2.1986Mark Dasa natha in Debilitation aspected by 7th and 8th lords.Mark Dasa natha Moon aspected by Rahu by reverse aspect.Lagna Lord Jupiter in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th aspected by Kaalanta Lord Saturn.Sub dasa lord Rahu aspected by Mars and its dispositor Guru in 12th in Kaalanta.Both sub-sub and sub-sub-sub lords Saturn and Ketu are spoiled by aspect and association.RESULT: The jathaka died of car accident on 22.2.1986 Thus, I have tried to prove HP theory principles working in determination of MRITYU KARAKAS and Maraka periods.I welcome readers who have similar horoscopes with them , to try and apply HP principles to check if they hold water in other cases.I am trying out yet another form of Dasa which may hold the key to a lot of aspects of life including THE DEATH.That , I will touch upon in days to come.To be contd......RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH: ~! 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 I use JHR pro version. Over two years, I have seen JHR giving consistent results in timing. Even if we take your Dasa bhukti, Mark Venus in VM Mark Sun in yuti with Rahu again in VM Any which way you see, this Jathaka is a pure case of Alpayu. Do we need to prove HP any more in this case?? Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishji, Thanks for your response. I just checked, on 22nd June, 2002, he was under Rahu-Venus-Rahu- Sun-Venus dasha (I use Parashara Software for this data), unless something is wrong here. I will request you to check this again. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, Your feedback has strengthened HP theory's simple and yet powerful concept. The jathaka died of heart attack on 22nd June 2002.(I had thought Surya bhukti followed by Guru bhukti to have killed him before you gave the death date, but your feedback shows more power to kaalant lord from Rahu) EXPLANATION: I have stated that 12th house is to be called KAALANT and 12th Lord to be called KAALANT lord. Hence in this KL horoscope, Rahu (As its dispositor becomes Maraka), Sun as 8th lord , Jupiter as 12th lord become very powerful Marakas. The person died of Heart attack on 22nd june 2002 HE WAS RUNNING, RAHU DASA HE WAS RUNNING , GURU BHUKTI HE WAS RUNNING GURU-GURU SUB-SUB HE HAD STARTED SURYA PRANANTARDASA ON 22ND JUNE 2002. Wonderful indeed. Thank you Sanjay....I think, with data available with me, and somemore feedbacks, we should be able to determine Maraka strength of Maraka sthanadhipathis. For the present it looks 12th, 8th, 2nd and 6th lords (All.... VM ) showing powerful marakatwa. Rgds Hemant TrivediSanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishiji, My apologies. I really have not been able to go very deep into HP theory, although I had spent some time on it. I plan to do it sometimes in near future. This person died on 22nd June, 2002 from a heart attack in the night at around 10:00PM-12:00 PM. I hope it helps in testing the theory. Please do let me know if I can answer any questions. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I deeply appreciate promptness with which you have replied to my posting with a counter testing question. First thing is, You have not given yourself enough time to understand various factors leading to one's death as specified by me. Please give yourself atleast couple of hours to understand and apply the arguements . As such if time and other birth details are true, then this case is meant to be An Alpayur Yoga. The birth itself shows Balarishta Yoga. Second thing is, since we are testing a theory, it is always important to do BACKWARD ENGINEERING. You should , if you really do not understand HP or for that any other theory, give the date of demise and ask the question, why this person died in this dasa period. I am requesting all the discerning readers to please do this exercise. Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Enclosed details of a person who is no longer alive. Can you please tell when he died using this theory, I have not been able to figure this out successfully using my limited knowledge. 3 Feb 1972 Time: 21:30 PM New Delhi. Regards Sanjaychaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:END OF THE ROAD.::What begins has to come to an end. This is a journey of SHIVA tatwa till it reaches SHAVA stage. A body starts losing energy(E Kaar or Life force) immediately after being born.Life is thus Time bound. Life too has to come to an end.Vedic astrology has a lot of literature based on Parashara, Jaimini, and so many sidhhantas with their rules on Balarishta, Life-span calculations methods etc.Some of the methods are extremely complicated. While I have been working on Rahu, I have found that he is the only Planet called KALA or Time or Death.Rahu-Ketu signify beginning and End. No wonder Ketu is the only planet associated with Liberation of Atman and is known as MOKSHA KARAKA.So adhering to the principle of HP system,I formed the following theory.1) Since Rahu is the beginning, He should be placed in 1st house to indicate start of the Life's journey.2) This lagna with Rahu in it will be known as KAALA LAGNA or in short "KL". 2nd from Rahu will be KAALA MUKHA rasi and 12th from Rahu is KAALANTA Rasi (End of the road)(Actually it is sub division of VM)3) Planets in 2nd, 12 th from Rahu Ketu are termed as planets in VISHA MUKHA or simply VM.4) Follow Nakshatra dasa as usual (Presently) and apply other Parashara siddhhantas along with HP.I took up four cases for study which are Dirghayusya, Madhyayushaya, Balarishta and Alpayur yoga jatakas.The result , as usual is stunning.BABY (Balarishta) Infant Mortality case.Born : 24 sept. 2003 Bijapur Time..7.52 AM.Died : 30th Sept. 2003Cause of Death : Stomach problem Kidneys malformed.Janma Lagna : Tula KL: MeshaAquarius: Mars(Retro)Aries: RahuGemini: SaturnLeo: Jup, Moon, MercuryVirgo: Sun, VenusDasa at birth, Ketu-sani-Budhaa) Dasa Natha Ketu in 7th Maraka sthanam aspected by Rahub) Dispositor of Dasa Natha, Venus in Kaalanta in 12th from it.c)Jupiter, Moon and Mercury fully aspected by Rahu (Apasavya dristi)and also aspected by Saturn. Sun spoiled by being with 2nd and 7th lord and also aspected fully by Mars.d) Moon spoiled by Jupiter, the KAALANTA lord and Mercury the 3rd and 6th lord.RESULT...Child died on 6th day as predicted by me.Cause of Death : Stomach problem ,Kidneys malformed.No urinary tract was formed.DIRGHAYU JATAKAMale:Born: 15th December 1892 at Rajkot 1.22 pmJanma Lagna: PiscesKL : AriesRahu : AriesSaturn : VirgoKetu : LibraMoon : LibraVenus : LibraMercury : scorpioMars : AquariusJupiter : PiscesDasa At Birth: Rahu DasaExpired in 1982 NovemberDasa at the time of Death : Moon-Rahu-Guru.Mark Dasa Lord Moon in 7th with Venus another Maraka Mark SEPERATOR Ketu also spoiling Moon and venus.Mark sub dasa lord Rahu in 7th from Dasa Natha.Mark Kaalanta lord Mercury in Ayushya sthana in 8th.Mark sub-sub dasa lord Guru in KAALANT RASI aspected by Saturn.RESULT: The jathaka expired at ripe old age crossing 90 and odd years in MOON-RAHU-JUPITER periodMIDDLE AGE (Madhyayu)MaleBorn 4.8.1944Janma Lagna : VirgoKL : CancerSun,Rahu, Venus : Cancer Merc,Jup,Mars : LeoMoon, Ketu : CapricornSaturn : GeminiDasa at Birth : MoonDasa at the time of Death : Saturn-Venus-Saturn-Ketu on 19th May 1999Mark Saturn becoming lord of 7th and 8th house in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th of KL.Mark Bhukti lord Venus in VM with 2nd Maraka lord Sun in 2nd from Saturn.Mark sub-sub also in same position.Jupiter , the Jeeva in maraka 2nd house with Mars aspected by Saturn from Kaalanta Rasi.Moon the Jeeva, Sun , the Atma and Ascendent are all spoiled beyond repair.The Jataka died of Cancer of Mouth. Mark evil combinations in KL and 2nd from KL.DEATH BY ACCIDENT;MALE20.6.1950Janma Lagna : CapricornKL,Rahu : Capricorn Venus : TaurusSun,Merc : GeminiSaturn : LeoMars, Ketu : VirgoMoon : ScorpioDasa at Birth : MercuryDasa at time of Death: Moon-Rahu-Saturn-Ketu on 22.2.1986Mark Dasa natha in Debilitation aspected by 7th and 8th lords.Mark Dasa natha Moon aspected by Rahu by reverse aspect.Lagna Lord Jupiter in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th aspected by Kaalanta Lord Saturn.Sub dasa lord Rahu aspected by Mars and its dispositor Guru in 12th in Kaalanta.Both sub-sub and sub-sub-sub lords Saturn and Ketu are spoiled by aspect and association.RESULT: The jathaka died of car accident on 22.2.1986 Thus, I have tried to prove HP theory principles working in determination of MRITYU KARAKAS and Maraka periods.I welcome readers who have similar horoscopes with them , to try and apply HP principles to check if they hold water in other cases.I am trying out yet another form of Dasa which may hold the key to a lot of aspects of life including THE DEATH.That , I will touch upon in days to come.To be contd......RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH: ~! 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 Thanks again for your mail. This is interesting to know but then dont you think there will be so many phases in dashas which can all point towards the death?. For eg, if we follow this (and please correct me if I have not understood this properly), then my dasha for Jup-Jup-Jup-Rah-Jup (in March 2005) can cause similar havoc ? Aug 22, 1973, 9:10 AM, Jaipur. Incidently, I just noticed seems Jupiter is retrograde at that time. Similarly, Jup- Jup-Jup-Ra-Ju and Jup-Jup-Ra-Ju-Ju and many other combinations in near future can point towards the same thing. I will appreciate if you can help me understand better. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I use JHR pro version. Over two years, I have seen JHR giving consistent results in timing. Even if we take your Dasa bhukti, Mark Venus in VM Mark Sun in yuti with Rahu again in VM Any which way you see, this Jathaka is a pure case of Alpayu. Do we need to prove HP any more in this case?? Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishji, Thanks for your response. I just checked, on 22nd June, 2002, he was under Rahu-Venus-Rahu- Sun-Venus dasha (I use Parashara Software for this data), unless something is wrong here. I will request you to check this again. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, Your feedback has strengthened HP theory's simple and yet powerful concept. The jathaka died of heart attack on 22nd June 2002.(I had thought Surya bhukti followed by Guru bhukti to have killed him before you gave the death date, but your feedback shows more power to kaalant lord from Rahu) EXPLANATION: I have stated that 12th house is to be called KAALANT and 12th Lord to be called KAALANT lord. Hence in this KL horoscope, Rahu (As its dispositor becomes Maraka), Sun as 8th lord , Jupiter as 12th lord become very powerful Marakas. The person died of Heart attack on 22nd june 2002 HE WAS RUNNING, RAHU DASA HE WAS RUNNING , GURU BHUKTI HE WAS RUNNING GURU-GURU SUB-SUB HE HAD STARTED SURYA PRANANTARDASA ON 22ND JUNE 2002. Wonderful indeed. Thank you Sanjay....I think, with data available with me, and somemore feedbacks, we should be able to determine Maraka strength of Maraka sthanadhipathis. For the present it looks 12th, 8th, 2nd and 6th lords (All.... VM ) showing powerful marakatwa. Rgds Hemant TrivediSanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishiji, My apologies. I really have not been able to go very deep into HP theory, although I had spent some time on it. I plan to do it sometimes in near future. This person died on 22nd June, 2002 from a heart attack in the night at around 10:00PM-12:00 PM. I hope it helps in testing the theory. Please do let me know if I can answer any questions. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I deeply appreciate promptness with which you have replied to my posting with a counter testing question. First thing is, You have not given yourself enough time to understand various factors leading to one's death as specified by me. Please give yourself atleast couple of hours to understand and apply the arguements . As such if time and other birth details are true, then this case is meant to be An Alpayur Yoga. The birth itself shows Balarishta Yoga. Second thing is, since we are testing a theory, it is always important to do BACKWARD ENGINEERING. You should , if you really do not understand HP or for that any other theory, give the date of demise and ask the question, why this person died in this dasa period. I am requesting all the discerning readers to please do this exercise. Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Enclosed details of a person who is no longer alive. Can you please tell when he died using this theory, I have not been able to figure this out successfully using my limited knowledge. 3 Feb 1972 Time: 21:30 PM New Delhi. Regards Sanjaychaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:END OF THE ROAD.::What begins has to come to an end. This is a journey of SHIVA tatwa till it reaches SHAVA stage. A body starts losing energy(E Kaar or Life force) immediately after being born.Life is thus Time bound. Life too has to come to an end.Vedic astrology has a lot of literature based on Parashara, Jaimini, and so many sidhhantas with their rules on Balarishta, Life-span calculations methods etc.Some of the methods are extremely complicated. While I have been working on Rahu, I have found that he is the only Planet called KALA or Time or Death.Rahu-Ketu signify beginning and End. No wonder Ketu is the only planet associated with Liberation of Atman and is known as MOKSHA KARAKA.So adhering to the principle of HP system,I formed the following theory.1) Since Rahu is the beginning, He should be placed in 1st house to indicate start of the Life's journey.2) This lagna with Rahu in it will be known as KAALA LAGNA or in short "KL". 2nd from Rahu will be KAALA MUKHA rasi and 12th from Rahu is KAALANTA Rasi (End of the road)(Actually it is sub division of VM)3) Planets in 2nd, 12 th from Rahu Ketu are termed as planets in VISHA MUKHA or simply VM.4) Follow Nakshatra dasa as usual (Presently) and apply other Parashara siddhhantas along with HP.I took up four cases for study which are Dirghayusya, Madhyayushaya, Balarishta and Alpayur yoga jatakas.The result , as usual is stunning.BABY (Balarishta) Infant Mortality case.Born : 24 sept. 2003 Bijapur Time..7.52 AM.Died : 30th Sept. 2003Cause of Death : Stomach problem Kidneys malformed.Janma Lagna : Tula KL: MeshaAquarius: Mars(Retro)Aries: RahuGemini: SaturnLeo: Jup, Moon, MercuryVirgo: Sun, VenusDasa at birth, Ketu-sani-Budhaa) Dasa Natha Ketu in 7th Maraka sthanam aspected by Rahub) Dispositor of Dasa Natha, Venus in Kaalanta in 12th from it.c)Jupiter, Moon and Mercury fully aspected by Rahu (Apasavya dristi)and also aspected by Saturn. Sun spoiled by being with 2nd and 7th lord and also aspected fully by Mars.d) Moon spoiled by Jupiter, the KAALANTA lord and Mercury the 3rd and 6th lord.RESULT...Child died on 6th day as predicted by me.Cause of Death : Stomach problem ,Kidneys malformed.No urinary tract was formed.DIRGHAYU JATAKAMale:Born: 15th December 1892 at Rajkot 1.22 pmJanma Lagna: PiscesKL : AriesRahu : AriesSaturn : VirgoKetu : LibraMoon : LibraVenus : LibraMercury : scorpioMars : AquariusJupiter : PiscesDasa At Birth: Rahu DasaExpired in 1982 NovemberDasa at the time of Death : Moon-Rahu-Guru.Mark Dasa Lord Moon in 7th with Venus another Maraka Mark SEPERATOR Ketu also spoiling Moon and venus.Mark sub dasa lord Rahu in 7th from Dasa Natha.Mark Kaalanta lord Mercury in Ayushya sthana in 8th.Mark sub-sub dasa lord Guru in KAALANT RASI aspected by Saturn.RESULT: The jathaka expired at ripe old age crossing 90 and odd years in MOON-RAHU-JUPITER periodMIDDLE AGE (Madhyayu)MaleBorn 4.8.1944Janma Lagna : VirgoKL : CancerSun,Rahu, Venus : Cancer Merc,Jup,Mars : LeoMoon, Ketu : CapricornSaturn : GeminiDasa at Birth : MoonDasa at the time of Death : Saturn-Venus-Saturn-Ketu on 19th May 1999Mark Saturn becoming lord of 7th and 8th house in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th of KL.Mark Bhukti lord Venus in VM with 2nd Maraka lord Sun in 2nd from Saturn.Mark sub-sub also in same position.Jupiter , the Jeeva in maraka 2nd house with Mars aspected by Saturn from Kaalanta Rasi.Moon the Jeeva, Sun , the Atma and Ascendent are all spoiled beyond repair.The Jataka died of Cancer of Mouth. Mark evil combinations in KL and 2nd from KL.DEATH BY ACCIDENT;MALE20.6.1950Janma Lagna : CapricornKL,Rahu : Capricorn Venus : TaurusSun,Merc : GeminiSaturn : LeoMars, Ketu : VirgoMoon : ScorpioDasa at Birth : MercuryDasa at time of Death: Moon-Rahu-Saturn-Ketu on 22.2.1986Mark Dasa natha in Debilitation aspected by 7th and 8th lords.Mark Dasa natha Moon aspected by Rahu by reverse aspect.Lagna Lord Jupiter in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th aspected by Kaalanta Lord Saturn.Sub dasa lord Rahu aspected by Mars and its dispositor Guru in 12th in Kaalanta.Both sub-sub and sub-sub-sub lords Saturn and Ketu are spoiled by aspect and association.RESULT: The jathaka died of car accident on 22.2.1986 Thus, I have tried to prove HP theory principles working in determination of MRITYU KARAKAS and Maraka periods.I welcome readers who have similar horoscopes with them , to try and apply HP principles to check if they hold water in other cases.I am trying out yet another form of Dasa which may hold the key to a lot of aspects of life including THE DEATH.That , I will touch upon in days to come.To be contd......RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH: ~! 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Guest guest Posted February 17, 2004 Report Share Posted February 17, 2004 You have raised a fine point . But it also shows that you have still not done enough home work on HP. Guru can cause problems for sure but nothing to the effect that it can cause body harm. Why? Rahu will give effects of Guru since he is in Dhanus. Guru , though is in VM, it is in neecha. Both moon and sun are relatively free from adverse effects. You may face uncertainity about finances during this period. This is because, Guru is the lord of your service. Guru-guru may worry you. It may give a backward trip to India (If you are out of India)for some time also. But cannot prove a Maraka. So rest easy my friend. Rgds HT Further testing of a new dasa is in progress, it will further pin point major events. Do not get disturbed on this account please. We are testing some theory .. Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishji, Thanks again for your mail. This is interesting to know but then dont you think there will be so many phases in dashas which can all point towards the death?. For eg, if we follow this (and please correct me if I have not understood this properly), then my dasha for Jup-Jup-Jup-Rah-Jup (in March 2005) can cause similar havoc ? Aug 22, 1973, 9:10 AM, Jaipur. Incidently, I just noticed seems Jupiter is retrograde at that time. Similarly, Jup- Jup-Jup-Ra-Ju and Jup-Jup-Ra-Ju-Ju and many other combinations in near future can point towards the same thing. I will appreciate if you can help me understand better. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I use JHR pro version. Over two years, I have seen JHR giving consistent results in timing. Even if we take your Dasa bhukti, Mark Venus in VM Mark Sun in yuti with Rahu again in VM Any which way you see, this Jathaka is a pure case of Alpayu. Do we need to prove HP any more in this case?? Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishji, Thanks for your response. I just checked, on 22nd June, 2002, he was under Rahu-Venus-Rahu- Sun-Venus dasha (I use Parashara Software for this data), unless something is wrong here. I will request you to check this again. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, Your feedback has strengthened HP theory's simple and yet powerful concept. The jathaka died of heart attack on 22nd June 2002.(I had thought Surya bhukti followed by Guru bhukti to have killed him before you gave the death date, but your feedback shows more power to kaalant lord from Rahu) EXPLANATION: I have stated that 12th house is to be called KAALANT and 12th Lord to be called KAALANT lord. Hence in this KL horoscope, Rahu (As its dispositor becomes Maraka), Sun as 8th lord , Jupiter as 12th lord become very powerful Marakas. The person died of Heart attack on 22nd june 2002 HE WAS RUNNING, RAHU DASA HE WAS RUNNING , GURU BHUKTI HE WAS RUNNING GURU-GURU SUB-SUB HE HAD STARTED SURYA PRANANTARDASA ON 22ND JUNE 2002. Wonderful indeed. Thank you Sanjay....I think, with data available with me, and somemore feedbacks, we should be able to determine Maraka strength of Maraka sthanadhipathis. For the present it looks 12th, 8th, 2nd and 6th lords (All.... VM ) showing powerful marakatwa. Rgds Hemant TrivediSanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Harishiji, My apologies. I really have not been able to go very deep into HP theory, although I had spent some time on it. I plan to do it sometimes in near future. This person died on 22nd June, 2002 from a heart attack in the night at around 10:00PM-12:00 PM. I hope it helps in testing the theory. Please do let me know if I can answer any questions. Regards Sanjaychaturth kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: Hello Sanjay, I deeply appreciate promptness with which you have replied to my posting with a counter testing question. First thing is, You have not given yourself enough time to understand various factors leading to one's death as specified by me. Please give yourself atleast couple of hours to understand and apply the arguements . As such if time and other birth details are true, then this case is meant to be An Alpayur Yoga. The birth itself shows Balarishta Yoga. Second thing is, since we are testing a theory, it is always important to do BACKWARD ENGINEERING. You should , if you really do not understand HP or for that any other theory, give the date of demise and ask the question, why this person died in this dasa period. I am requesting all the discerning readers to please do this exercise. Rgds Hemant Trivedi Sanjay Chadha <chadhatony > wrote: Enclosed details of a person who is no longer alive. Can you please tell when he died using this theory, I have not been able to figure this out successfully using my limited knowledge. 3 Feb 1972 Time: 21:30 PM New Delhi. Regards Sanjaychaturth_kaal <chaturth_kaal > wrote: RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH:END OF THE ROAD.::What begins has to come to an end. This is a journey of SHIVA tatwa till it reaches SHAVA stage. A body starts losing energy(E Kaar or Life force) immediately after being born.Life is thus Time bound. Life too has to come to an end.Vedic astrology has a lot of literature based on Parashara, Jaimini, and so many sidhhantas with their rules on Balarishta, Life-span calculations methods etc.Some of the methods are extremely complicated. While I have been working on Rahu, I have found that he is the only Planet called KALA or Time or Death.Rahu-Ketu signify beginning and End. No wonder Ketu is the only planet associated with Liberation of Atman and is known as MOKSHA KARAKA.So adhering to the principle of HP system,I formed the following theory.1) Since Rahu is the beginning, He should be placed in 1st house to indicate start of the Life's journey.2) This lagna with Rahu in it will be known as KAALA LAGNA or in short "KL". 2nd from Rahu will be KAALA MUKHA rasi and 12th from Rahu is KAALANTA Rasi (End of the road)(Actually it is sub division of VM)3) Planets in 2nd, 12 th from Rahu Ketu are termed as planets in VISHA MUKHA or simply VM.4) Follow Nakshatra dasa as usual (Presently) and apply other Parashara siddhhantas along with HP.I took up four cases for study which are Dirghayusya, Madhyayushaya, Balarishta and Alpayur yoga jatakas.The result , as usual is stunning.BABY (Balarishta) Infant Mortality case.Born : 24 sept. 2003 Bijapur Time..7.52 AM.Died : 30th Sept. 2003Cause of Death : Stomach problem Kidneys malformed.Janma Lagna : Tula KL: MeshaAquarius: Mars(Retro)Aries: RahuGemini: SaturnLeo: Jup, Moon, MercuryVirgo: Sun, VenusDasa at birth, Ketu-sani-Budhaa) Dasa Natha Ketu in 7th Maraka sthanam aspected by Rahub) Dispositor of Dasa Natha, Venus in Kaalanta in 12th from it.c)Jupiter, Moon and Mercury fully aspected by Rahu (Apasavya dristi)and also aspected by Saturn. Sun spoiled by being with 2nd and 7th lord and also aspected fully by Mars.d) Moon spoiled by Jupiter, the KAALANTA lord and Mercury the 3rd and 6th lord.RESULT...Child died on 6th day as predicted by me.Cause of Death : Stomach problem ,Kidneys malformed.No urinary tract was formed.DIRGHAYU JATAKAMale:Born: 15th December 1892 at Rajkot 1.22 pmJanma Lagna: PiscesKL : AriesRahu : AriesSaturn : VirgoKetu : LibraMoon : LibraVenus : LibraMercury : scorpioMars : AquariusJupiter : PiscesDasa At Birth: Rahu DasaExpired in 1982 NovemberDasa at the time of Death : Moon-Rahu-Guru.Mark Dasa Lord Moon in 7th with Venus another Maraka Mark SEPERATOR Ketu also spoiling Moon and venus.Mark sub dasa lord Rahu in 7th from Dasa Natha.Mark Kaalanta lord Mercury in Ayushya sthana in 8th.Mark sub-sub dasa lord Guru in KAALANT RASI aspected by Saturn.RESULT: The jathaka expired at ripe old age crossing 90 and odd years in MOON-RAHU-JUPITER periodMIDDLE AGE (Madhyayu)MaleBorn 4.8.1944Janma Lagna : VirgoKL : CancerSun,Rahu, Venus : Cancer Merc,Jup,Mars : LeoMoon, Ketu : CapricornSaturn : GeminiDasa at Birth : MoonDasa at the time of Death : Saturn-Venus-Saturn-Ketu on 19th May 1999Mark Saturn becoming lord of 7th and 8th house in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th of KL.Mark Bhukti lord Venus in VM with 2nd Maraka lord Sun in 2nd from Saturn.Mark sub-sub also in same position.Jupiter , the Jeeva in maraka 2nd house with Mars aspected by Saturn from Kaalanta Rasi.Moon the Jeeva, Sun , the Atma and Ascendent are all spoiled beyond repair.The Jataka died of Cancer of Mouth. Mark evil combinations in KL and 2nd from KL.DEATH BY ACCIDENT;MALE20.6.1950Janma Lagna : CapricornKL,Rahu : Capricorn Venus : TaurusSun,Merc : GeminiSaturn : LeoMars, Ketu : VirgoMoon : ScorpioDasa at Birth : MercuryDasa at time of Death: Moon-Rahu-Saturn-Ketu on 22.2.1986Mark Dasa natha in Debilitation aspected by 7th and 8th lords.Mark Dasa natha Moon aspected by Rahu by reverse aspect.Lagna Lord Jupiter in Kaalanta Rasi in 12th aspected by Kaalanta Lord Saturn.Sub dasa lord Rahu aspected by Mars and its dispositor Guru in 12th in Kaalanta.Both sub-sub and sub-sub-sub lords Saturn and Ketu are spoiled by aspect and association.RESULT: The jathaka died of car accident on 22.2.1986 Thus, I have tried to prove HP theory principles working in determination of MRITYU KARAKAS and Maraka periods.I welcome readers who have similar horoscopes with them , to try and apply HP principles to check if they hold water in other cases.I am trying out yet another form of Dasa which may hold the key to a lot of aspects of life including THE DEATH.That , I will touch upon in days to come.To be contd......RAAM RAAHAVE NAMAH: ~! 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