Article - The Rashi Chart and the Divisional charts

[Guest guest]

Dear Tanvir,

Your article is awaitied with great anticipation!Hope it will cover the

effects of the planets in Vargothama but debilitated in the Rasi chart.

Usually most of the astrologers use only the D1 and D9 charts for

prediction.Heavy stuff like Arudas,Argalas,Charakarakas,special lagnas and

diffrent dasas are rarely used.So if you can give special attention to the

application of D9,it will be very much apprecated.

Regards

Kaimal

-

sanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology

<>

Sunday, February 15, 2004 10:54 PM

Re: Article - The Rashi Chart and the Divisional charts

 

 

> Dear Tanvir Bhai:

>

> Very nice.

>

> 2 points from my side.

>

> A planet between as closer to the tip of a sing (where tip is

> defined as the point extremely close to the edge of an ascendant;

> example between 0 and 1/2 degree or between 29.6 and 30 degrees)

> will maintain a Vargottama for almost all the Varga charts and

> becomes the best for that planet even though it may be in an

> inimical sign or debilitated.

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

In this article I have told something I was wishing to tell from long

ago but never had enough time to explain. This article will be

published in my sites soon as well.

 

Regards,

Tanvir.

 

 

 

 

The Rashi Chart and the Divisional charts

 

[ Rashi Chakra and Varga Chakra ]

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

 

The Rashi Chart

---------------

 

The Rashi Chart [Also called - Rashi Chakra] is the chart showing

mere placement of the planets in the sky in reference to Rashis

[Zodiac Signs]. The natal Rashi Chart shows which planet was in which

Rashi [sign] on the time of the birth of a native. In Rashi Chart a

Rashi is marked as natal ascendant [Janma Lagna] and that sign is

counted as the first house. Thus the 12 different signs become the 12

different houses, where each house controls a set of matters.

Depending upon the nature, rulership, strength, relationships among

the planets placed in different Rashis, the good and bad of the

native is derived by the astrologer.

 

The Divisional Charts

---------------------

 

On the other hand, a Divisional Chart [Vagra Chakra] is not the

DIRECT chart of planets in the sky. The Rashi Chart is a sort of

Direct Snapshot of the sky at a moment. That is why it is a 'True

chart' which exists in physical level of material creation. On the

other hand a Divisional Chart is not a direct chart of placement - a

Divisional Chart does not exist in the true astronomy, but it as

a 'Virtual Chart' derived from the Rashi Chart, and there is the

glory of Vedic Astrology!

 

Making a Divisional Chart

-------------------------

 

When we will make a Divisional chart, Each Rashi will be divided into

equal parts, the number of the parts depending up on which Divisional

Chart we are going to create. Suppose, we are going to make the

Navamsa Chart, which is a 9th divisional or harmonic chart, also

called D-9. Now, Each Rashi in the Rashi Chart will be divided in to

9 equal parts, and each of the 9 parts will represent a separate

Rashi in the Navamsa [D-9] Chart, that way the 9th Divisional Chart

will be made.

 

As an example, let us suppose that Moon is in Aries in one's Rashi

Chart. We want to make the Saptamsa [D-7] Divisional Chart for the

native. Now we will divide Aries in to 7 equal parts, and as per the

rules of Vedic Astrology, each seventh part will denote some

separate 'Rashi'(s) in the D-7 chart. Now if the part of Aries where

Moon is, denotes Gemini in D-7 chart, the Moon will be in Gemini in D-

7 Chart. All other planets will change signs the same way and make a

complete new chart for the native.

 

That is why, the Moon is not in Gemini in the sky in real, it is in

Aries. However, it is in the "D-7 Gemini part" in Aries that is why

in D-7 Chart Moon will go to Gemini. A Divisional Chart is completely

different from the Rashi Chart, however, one planet may occupy same

sign in Rashi Chart and in other Divisional Charts, that is only a co-

incident.

 

Use of Divisional Charts

------------------------

 

The most respectable authority of Vedic Astrology, Maharishi

Parasara, speaks about 16 Divisional Charts. They are The Rashi

itself [D-1], Hora [D-2], Drekkana [D-3], Chathurthamsa [D-4],

Saptamsa [D-7], Navamsa [D-9] and so on. Maharishi Parasara goes upto

Shastiamsa [D-60] which is made dividing a Rashi in to 60 parts and

the level of accuracy Vedic Astrology allows us to go to, can be

imagined easily by this. Even Ashtottaramsa [D-108] is used by some

most experienced astrologers to look into most subtle and accurate

events possible!

 

Maharishi Parasara also speaks about the use of these Divisional

Charts. He has said to see the body of the native from Rashi Chart [D-

1] itself, whereas he has suggested to look at other Divisional

Charts for other affairs, such as wealth from D-2, siblings from D-3,

profession from D-10 etc. Some of these indications are similar to

house significations like 3rd from ascendant deals with co borns, and

the D-chart dealing with siblings is D-3. We see profession from 10th

house and the D-chart dealing with profession is D-10. However it is

not always true, like D-12 deals with mother and father though we

look at 4th house for mother. Sometimes it is a bit similar like the

7th house is a secondary house for progeny and for the same matter we

look at D-7 chart. However the main house dealing with progeny is of

course the 5th house.

 

As per Maharishi Parasara's advice, we can understand easily which

house is to be looked at for which matter. Suppose, someone got an

infection in the body. What would say this? Since it is about the

body and self, the Rashi Chart [D-1] itself has to be seen. Infection

is seen from the 6th house, so we should look at the 6th house and

lord in the Rashi Chart. Now different houses denote different body

parts, they will have to be looked at for more details. Like

influence of 6th lord [infection] on 2nd house [face] in Rashi Chart

[Chart of body] might cause infection in face.

 

Suppose, we want to know about native's education. Should we look at

the Rashi Chart again? Logically, No. Because it has to be seen from

Chaturvimsamsa [D-24] since this D-chart deals with education. Now if

we look closer -

 

* 4th house in D-24: Formal education itself. Reason - 4th house is

of formal education.

 

* 5th house in D-24: Original knowledge the person owns. Reason - 5th

house is of knowledge. An 'ordinary student' might have a better

knowledge than a 'better student' than him in the same class. I have

seen in my personal experiences that many students have good

knowledge about the subject but don't get the highest mark / stands

first always. He is weak in 4th house [result of education, mostly]

but not in 5th house [knowledge].

 

* 6th house in D-24: Competitors in studies. Reason - 6th house is

rivals. For a first boy in the school, this will signify the 2nd boy,

3rd boy and so on, whoever among the classmates compete with him in

studies. It will not signify an ordinary student of his class since

the first boy does not have to ever compete with any ordinary student

for his place.

 

Note - A student with strong 6th house in D-24 might stand 'Always

first' in his class, defeating his enemies [6th] in education [D-24]

if it also also supported by houses 4th, 11th etc.

 

7th house in D-24: Stands for the joint activites in the student

life / acquiring of knowledge. Reason - 7th house rules joint

activities. It might be group studies, making hand-notes in a group

of fellow students etc. In my early student life I used to make notes

and reference materials and exchange them with other students against

notes written by them. What else house would signify this since 7th

house is the house of trading?

 

* 8th house in D-24: Hidden or spiritual knowledge the person owns.

Reason - 8th house is the house of hidden things and spirituality. It

might also cause a sudden 'change' in student life.

 

* 9th house in D-24: The knowledge releated to religion and the role

of the teacher in relation of acquiring knowledge in the person's

life. Reason - 9th house signifies religion, teachers etc.

 

* 11th house in D-24: Awards and prizes in student life. Reason -

11th house is achievement. Not all good students get awards,

scholarships and medals in a standard way.

 

* 11th house in D-24 will also stand for the friends in his class or

educational life. A first boy might like an ordinary student in his

class to be a good friend of him. He might not have a good

friendship with other good students.

 

* 12th house in D-24: Knowledge of foreign matters such as foreign

languages, foreign cultures etc. Reason - 12th house rules the

foreign.

 

So, logically we see that for the matters which are not directly

related to body and health, we should not be looking at the Rashi

Chart for the answer. Parasara hinted this clearly and this is the

real way of Jyotish.

 

Logical inapplicability of Rashi Charts

------

 

When we think logically, we see it clearly that Rashi Chart becomes

totally illogical for using. Let me give a little example. In around

1990 or 1991, there started broadcasting educational programmes in

our TVs about population growth and problems created for this - to

aware the illiterated people about it. It was shown that in 1990

about 5 children used to take birth in each minute in this little

country [bangladesh].

 

Now, this is 2003 and each minute at least 7/8 babies take birth in

our country.

 

The Rashi Chart is based on the Lagna [Ascendant] which keeps same

for continuous two hours for a place. So, a Rashi Chart is basically

SAME for the total two hours. So, when we are reading a Rahi Chart,

we are reading the person's fate + more 7X120=840 people's fate same

time - who ALL have the SAME Rashi Chart!!!

 

Now, I was born on 24th Dec 1982, 12.30 AM, Dhaka. In the

same 'Specific two hours' that night, at least 3X120=360 babies were

born who have all the same Rashi Charts of me. Now, whatever result I

take out of my Rashi Chart, should be applied to them also!! I

started studying Jyotish in 2001, when I was running my exalted 8th

lord's period [spirituality] who is in the 5th house [Knowledge] in

my Rashi Chart. That time it gave me a lot of spiritual insight and I

also wrote some Jyotish Articles [Mars is 3rd lord-writings] and

created a website for it. I was also a lonely the whole time - all

these are clear significations of an exalted 8th lord in 5th. That

really matches and proves to be really worthy.

 

But what about those other 360 kids who have the same Rashi Chart of

me? They have the same sequence and Vimsottari Dasa and they all ran

the Dasa almost same time - so they ALL should learn astrology and

make website like me, almost same time in around 2001! But today from

my country I see no boy of my age to study astrology on the net like

this and open website like me! But logically, they all should study

astrology at the same level of me, open same standard websites like

me and own lists with 1100 members like me... WHY... because we

derive all these results from the Rashi Chart, right??

 

A few months ago I visited India for 2 days only to buy some Jyotish

books which I did. I bought 46 books and spent total 10,000 bucks.

Now, all those 360 clone-boys should be going to India for the same

reason. Forgetting about 360 boys, at least 20/25 boys of them should

REALLY study Jyotish to my level and if at least ANY ONE of them did,

I would meet him on the net because he would be having a site and

list like me on the net! But no, I did not! As we are deriving all

the results from the Rashi Chart, at least SOME of them should be

having a list of 1100 members like me! But no, no such list on the

net than mine is owned by someone of my age. What do all these say

about the Rashi Chart?

 

All the basic and major events of my life can be explained well with

the Rashi Chart and Vimsottari Dasa, but all the clone boys have the

same Rashi Chart positions and they all would have the same major

events in their lives and basically we all should have a same life!

All their family background, social status, educational status,

talents, professional status would be same! But in real even the

twins who were born 2 minutes apart have so much major differences in

lives, and live complete different lives, then what is about people

born in the same two hours, and having the same Rashi Chart?

 

If Rashi Chart would be indicating the results accurately / reliably

then there would be at least 200 SAME COPIES of each people because

at least 200 people would be born the same day in the same two hours

having same Rashi Charts. And then there would be 200 W Bush(es)

ruling 200 powerful countries like the U.S.A. But in practical life,

there is only U.S.A. possible and not 200. There would be at least

200 more Bill Gates with same huge wealth who would own 200 same big

separate software making companies like Microsoft and each step of

their lives would be same and SIMULTANEOUS because we explain all

these by the Rashi Chart, right?

 

So logically and practically, Rashi Chart becomes something that we

can not depend on at all! And that IS the truth, that is why we will

have to consult different Divisional Charts for different purposes.

 

Even then, WHY do Rashi Charts work?

---

 

Even after all these discussion, we see that Rashi Charts do work.

Almost all the Jyotishas use ONLY Rashi Charts and make successful

predictions. I also very rarely use Divisional Charts - I can not use

them much. In practice the Rashi Chart always shows the past, present

and future very well. Even though the other 360 kids do not have the

same fortune of me, [Though the Rashi Chart is same.] my Rashi Chart

matches to my life very exactly and so is about others lives. But

then, how come is that possible?

 

I have thought a lot, a lot about it since from no one I could get

the answer till today. And the only one answer that I could find out

is 'Divinity'! And that IS the only true answer. It is true that the

Rashi Chart is same for a lot of people and they all do not have the

same fortune. But even then, in practice, Rashi Charts indicate the

life and Karma very well. This is possible only for the divinity of

the creation. Yes, a lot of people would have the same Rashi Chart,

BUT ONLY THE ONE / A FEW WHO'S LIFE WILL MATCH TO THE RASHI CHART

will have their charts made by a Jyotisha and thus it will come true.

Other people will never have an opportunity in their lives to get

their reading - because their reading will not match as per Rashi

Chart. Because some 90% people never truely believe Astrology and

among the people who do, very few people of them have the chance to

get their charts made by an Astrologer. Only because it is the

divinity and his life will match to the Rashi Chart then only his

chart can be made. Not of the other people.

 

This again leads us to the fact that we have no kind of will power

over our Karma, and basically all kinds of deep spiritual discussion

leads us to the same conclusion. So Rashi Chart is basically a

divinity, just like the Prasa or Horary Chart is. Even Horary Chart

actually shows the failure sign of our so called free will. Thus our

thoughts and acts being fully and strictly controlled by the divinity

are keeping the creation balanced and thus everything is being

possible to happen in a planned way and only for that reason we are

able to know the full life of someone at his or her birth with this

divine Hora Sastra.

 

Tanvir Chowdhury

15 Feb 2004,

Dhaka, Bangladesh.

[Guest guest]

Dear Tanvir Bhai:

 

Very nice.

 

2 points from my side.

 

A planet between as closer to the tip of a sing (where tip is

defined as the point extremely close to the edge of an ascendant;

example between 0 and 1/2 degree or between 29.6 and 30 degrees)

will maintain a Vargottama for almost all the Varga charts and

becomes the best for that planet even though it may be in an

inimical sign or debilitated.

 

Secondly the exact time of birth becomes very significant when we go

deep into varga charts for obvious reasons. So even a slight skewed

time can also skew up planetary placements yielding incorrect

placements and thus analysis.

 

Good posting!!

 

--Sanjay Aggarwal

, "Tanvir Chowdhury"

<lord_narayana@l...> wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> In this article I have told something I was wishing to tell from

long

> ago but never had enough time to explain. This article will be

> published in my sites soon as well.

>

> Regards,

> Tanvir.

>

>

>

>

> The Rashi Chart and the Divisional charts

>

> [ Rashi Chakra and Varga Chakra ]

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

>

> The Rashi Chart

> ---------------

>

> The Rashi Chart [Also called - Rashi Chakra] is the chart showing

> mere placement of the planets in the sky in reference to Rashis

> [Zodiac Signs]. The natal Rashi Chart shows which planet was in

which

> Rashi [sign] on the time of the birth of a native. In Rashi Chart

a

> Rashi is marked as natal ascendant [Janma Lagna] and that sign is

> counted as the first house. Thus the 12 different signs become the

12

> different houses, where each house controls a set of matters.

> Depending upon the nature, rulership, strength, relationships

among

> the planets placed in different Rashis, the good and bad of the

> native is derived by the astrologer.

>

> The Divisional Charts

> ---------------------

>

> On the other hand, a Divisional Chart [Vagra Chakra] is not the

> DIRECT chart of planets in the sky. The Rashi Chart is a sort of

> Direct Snapshot of the sky at a moment. That is why it is a 'True

> chart' which exists in physical level of material creation. On the

> other hand a Divisional Chart is not a direct chart of placement -

a

> Divisional Chart does not exist in the true astronomy, but it as

> a 'Virtual Chart' derived from the Rashi Chart, and there is the

> glory of Vedic Astrology!

>

> Making a Divisional Chart

> -------------------------

>

> When we will make a Divisional chart, Each Rashi will be divided

into

> equal parts, the number of the parts depending up on which

Divisional

> Chart we are going to create. Suppose, we are going to make the

> Navamsa Chart, which is a 9th divisional or harmonic chart, also

> called D-9. Now, Each Rashi in the Rashi Chart will be divided in

to

> 9 equal parts, and each of the 9 parts will represent a separate

> Rashi in the Navamsa [D-9] Chart, that way the 9th Divisional

Chart

> will be made.

>

> As an example, let us suppose that Moon is in Aries in one's Rashi

> Chart. We want to make the Saptamsa [D-7] Divisional Chart for the

> native. Now we will divide Aries in to 7 equal parts, and as per

the

> rules of Vedic Astrology, each seventh part will denote some

> separate 'Rashi'(s) in the D-7 chart. Now if the part of Aries

where

> Moon is, denotes Gemini in D-7 chart, the Moon will be in Gemini

in D-

> 7 Chart. All other planets will change signs the same way and make

a

> complete new chart for the native.

>

> That is why, the Moon is not in Gemini in the sky in real, it is

in

> Aries. However, it is in the "D-7 Gemini part" in Aries that is

why

> in D-7 Chart Moon will go to Gemini. A Divisional Chart is

completely

> different from the Rashi Chart, however, one planet may occupy

same

> sign in Rashi Chart and in other Divisional Charts, that is only a

co-

> incident.

>

> Use of Divisional Charts

> ------------------------

>

> The most respectable authority of Vedic Astrology, Maharishi

> Parasara, speaks about 16 Divisional Charts. They are The Rashi

> itself [D-1], Hora [D-2], Drekkana [D-3], Chathurthamsa [D-4],

> Saptamsa [D-7], Navamsa [D-9] and so on. Maharishi Parasara goes

upto

> Shastiamsa [D-60] which is made dividing a Rashi in to 60 parts

and

> the level of accuracy Vedic Astrology allows us to go to, can be

> imagined easily by this. Even Ashtottaramsa [D-108] is used by

some

> most experienced astrologers to look into most subtle and accurate

> events possible!

>

> Maharishi Parasara also speaks about the use of these Divisional

> Charts. He has said to see the body of the native from Rashi Chart

[D-

> 1] itself, whereas he has suggested to look at other Divisional

> Charts for other affairs, such as wealth from D-2, siblings from D-

3,

> profession from D-10 etc. Some of these indications are similar to

> house significations like 3rd from ascendant deals with co borns,

and

> the D-chart dealing with siblings is D-3. We see profession from

10th

> house and the D-chart dealing with profession is D-10. However it

is

> not always true, like D-12 deals with mother and father though we

> look at 4th house for mother. Sometimes it is a bit similar like

the

> 7th house is a secondary house for progeny and for the same matter

we

> look at D-7 chart. However the main house dealing with progeny is

of

> course the 5th house.

>

> As per Maharishi Parasara's advice, we can understand easily which

> house is to be looked at for which matter. Suppose, someone got an

> infection in the body. What would say this? Since it is about the

> body and self, the Rashi Chart [D-1] itself has to be seen.

Infection

> is seen from the 6th house, so we should look at the 6th house and

> lord in the Rashi Chart. Now different houses denote different

body

> parts, they will have to be looked at for more details. Like

> influence of 6th lord [infection] on 2nd house [face] in Rashi

Chart

> [Chart of body] might cause infection in face.

>

> Suppose, we want to know about native's education. Should we look

at

> the Rashi Chart again? Logically, No. Because it has to be seen

from

> Chaturvimsamsa [D-24] since this D-chart deals with education. Now

if

> we look closer -

>

> * 4th house in D-24: Formal education itself. Reason - 4th house

is

> of formal education.

>

> * 5th house in D-24: Original knowledge the person owns. Reason -

5th

> house is of knowledge. An 'ordinary student' might have a better

> knowledge than a 'better student' than him in the same class. I

have

> seen in my personal experiences that many students have good

> knowledge about the subject but don't get the highest mark /

stands

> first always. He is weak in 4th house [result of education,

mostly]

> but not in 5th house [knowledge].

>

> * 6th house in D-24: Competitors in studies. Reason - 6th house is

> rivals. For a first boy in the school, this will signify the 2nd

boy,

> 3rd boy and so on, whoever among the classmates compete with him

in

> studies. It will not signify an ordinary student of his class

since

> the first boy does not have to ever compete with any ordinary

student

> for his place.

>

> Note - A student with strong 6th house in D-24 might stand 'Always

> first' in his class, defeating his enemies [6th] in education [D-

24]

> if it also also supported by houses 4th, 11th etc.

>

> 7th house in D-24: Stands for the joint activites in the student

> life / acquiring of knowledge. Reason - 7th house rules joint

> activities. It might be group studies, making hand-notes in a

group

> of fellow students etc. In my early student life I used to make

notes

> and reference materials and exchange them with other students

against

> notes written by them. What else house would signify this since

7th

> house is the house of trading?

>

> * 8th house in D-24: Hidden or spiritual knowledge the person

owns.

> Reason - 8th house is the house of hidden things and spirituality.

It

> might also cause a sudden 'change' in student life.

>

> * 9th house in D-24: The knowledge releated to religion and the

role

> of the teacher in relation of acquiring knowledge in the person's

> life. Reason - 9th house signifies religion, teachers etc.

>

> * 11th house in D-24: Awards and prizes in student life. Reason -

> 11th house is achievement. Not all good students get awards,

> scholarships and medals in a standard way.

>

> * 11th house in D-24 will also stand for the friends in his class

or

> educational life. A first boy might like an ordinary student in

his

> class to be a good friend of him. He might not have a good

> friendship with other good students.

>

> * 12th house in D-24: Knowledge of foreign matters such as foreign

> languages, foreign cultures etc. Reason - 12th house rules the

> foreign.

>

> So, logically we see that for the matters which are not directly

> related to body and health, we should not be looking at the Rashi

> Chart for the answer. Parasara hinted this clearly and this is the

> real way of Jyotish.

>

> Logical inapplicability of Rashi Charts

> ------

>

> When we think logically, we see it clearly that Rashi Chart

becomes

> totally illogical for using. Let me give a little example. In

around

> 1990 or 1991, there started broadcasting educational programmes in

> our TVs about population growth and problems created for this - to

> aware the illiterated people about it. It was shown that in 1990

> about 5 children used to take birth in each minute in this little

> country [bangladesh].

>

> Now, this is 2003 and each minute at least 7/8 babies take birth

in

> our country.

>

> The Rashi Chart is based on the Lagna [Ascendant] which keeps same

> for continuous two hours for a place. So, a Rashi Chart is

basically

> SAME for the total two hours. So, when we are reading a Rahi

Chart,

> we are reading the person's fate + more 7X120=840 people's fate

same

> time - who ALL have the SAME Rashi Chart!!!

>

> Now, I was born on 24th Dec 1982, 12.30 AM, Dhaka. In the

> same 'Specific two hours' that night, at least 3X120=360 babies

were

> born who have all the same Rashi Charts of me. Now, whatever

result I

> take out of my Rashi Chart, should be applied to them also!! I

> started studying Jyotish in 2001, when I was running my exalted

8th

> lord's period [spirituality] who is in the 5th house [Knowledge]

in

> my Rashi Chart. That time it gave me a lot of spiritual insight

and I

> also wrote some Jyotish Articles [Mars is 3rd lord-writings] and

> created a website for it. I was also a lonely the whole time - all

> these are clear significations of an exalted 8th lord in 5th. That

> really matches and proves to be really worthy.

>

> But what about those other 360 kids who have the same Rashi Chart

of

> me? They have the same sequence and Vimsottari Dasa and they all

ran

> the Dasa almost same time - so they ALL should learn astrology and

> make website like me, almost same time in around 2001! But today

from

> my country I see no boy of my age to study astrology on the net

like

> this and open website like me! But logically, they all should

study

> astrology at the same level of me, open same standard websites

like

> me and own lists with 1100 members like me... WHY... because we

> derive all these results from the Rashi Chart, right??

>

> A few months ago I visited India for 2 days only to buy some

Jyotish

> books which I did. I bought 46 books and spent total 10,000 bucks.

> Now, all those 360 clone-boys should be going to India for the

same

> reason. Forgetting about 360 boys, at least 20/25 boys of them

should

> REALLY study Jyotish to my level and if at least ANY ONE of them

did,

> I would meet him on the net because he would be having a site and

> list like me on the net! But no, I did not! As we are deriving all

> the results from the Rashi Chart, at least SOME of them should be

> having a list of 1100 members like me! But no, no such list on the

> net than mine is owned by someone of my age. What do all these say

> about the Rashi Chart?

>

> All the basic and major events of my life can be explained well

with

> the Rashi Chart and Vimsottari Dasa, but all the clone boys have

the

> same Rashi Chart positions and they all would have the same major

> events in their lives and basically we all should have a same

life!

> All their family background, social status, educational status,

> talents, professional status would be same! But in real even the

> twins who were born 2 minutes apart have so much major differences

in

> lives, and live complete different lives, then what is about

people

> born in the same two hours, and having the same Rashi Chart?

>

> If Rashi Chart would be indicating the results accurately /

reliably

> then there would be at least 200 SAME COPIES of each people

because

> at least 200 people would be born the same day in the same two

hours

> having same Rashi Charts. And then there would be 200 W Bush(es)

> ruling 200 powerful countries like the U.S.A. But in practical

life,

> there is only U.S.A. possible and not 200. There would be at least

> 200 more Bill Gates with same huge wealth who would own 200 same

big

> separate software making companies like Microsoft and each step of

> their lives would be same and SIMULTANEOUS because we explain all

> these by the Rashi Chart, right?

>

> So logically and practically, Rashi Chart becomes something that

we

> can not depend on at all! And that IS the truth, that is why we

will

> have to consult different Divisional Charts for different purposes.

>

> Even then, WHY do Rashi Charts work?

> ---

>

> Even after all these discussion, we see that Rashi Charts do work.

> Almost all the Jyotishas use ONLY Rashi Charts and make successful

> predictions. I also very rarely use Divisional Charts - I can not

use

> them much. In practice the Rashi Chart always shows the past,

present

> and future very well. Even though the other 360 kids do not have

the

> same fortune of me, [Though the Rashi Chart is same.] my Rashi

Chart

> matches to my life very exactly and so is about others lives. But

> then, how come is that possible?

>

> I have thought a lot, a lot about it since from no one I could get

> the answer till today. And the only one answer that I could find

out

> is 'Divinity'! And that IS the only true answer. It is true that

the

> Rashi Chart is same for a lot of people and they all do not have

the

> same fortune. But even then, in practice, Rashi Charts indicate

the

> life and Karma very well. This is possible only for the divinity

of

> the creation. Yes, a lot of people would have the same Rashi

Chart,

> BUT ONLY THE ONE / A FEW WHO'S LIFE WILL MATCH TO THE RASHI CHART

> will have their charts made by a Jyotisha and thus it will come

true.

> Other people will never have an opportunity in their lives to get

> their reading - because their reading will not match as per Rashi

> Chart. Because some 90% people never truely believe Astrology and

> among the people who do, very few people of them have the chance

to

> get their charts made by an Astrologer. Only because it is the

> divinity and his life will match to the Rashi Chart then only his

> chart can be made. Not of the other people.

>

> This again leads us to the fact that we have no kind of will power

> over our Karma, and basically all kinds of deep spiritual

discussion

> leads us to the same conclusion. So Rashi Chart is basically a

> divinity, just like the Prasa or Horary Chart is. Even Horary

Chart

> actually shows the failure sign of our so called free will. Thus

our

> thoughts and acts being fully and strictly controlled by the

divinity

> are keeping the creation balanced and thus everything is being

> possible to happen in a planned way and only for that reason we

are

> able to know the full life of someone at his or her birth with

this

> divine Hora Sastra.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> 15 Feb 2004,

> Dhaka, Bangladesh.

[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay Jee, Thanks.

 

1. You are a lot knowledgeable than me, but in my view, a planet in

the tip of sign becomes really weak and gives bad result as per my

experience and observation, and as per BPHS that would belong to

either infancy or old age, so I consider it that way :-)

 

2. Yes, to go along with divisional charts, we need very accurate

time. But that very accurate time is not needed to be recorded at

birth, but rather with some 5/6 major past events we can figure out

the accurate birth time by our own and thus make all the divisional

charts correctly... by birth time rectification.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

 

, "sanjaytechnology"

<sanjaytechnology> wrote:

> Dear Tanvir Bhai:

>

> Very nice.

>

> 2 points from my side.

>

> A planet between as closer to the tip of a sing (where tip is

> defined as the point extremely close to the edge of an ascendant;

> example between 0 and 1/2 degree or between 29.6 and 30 degrees)

> will maintain a Vargottama for almost all the Varga charts and

> becomes the best for that planet even though it may be in an

> inimical sign or debilitated.

>

> Secondly the exact time of birth becomes very significant when we

go

> deep into varga charts for obvious reasons. So even a slight skewed

> time can also skew up planetary placements yielding incorrect

> placements and thus analysis.

>

> Good posting!!

>

> --Sanjay Aggarwal

[Guest guest]

Dear Kaimal Jee,

 

Thanks for the comment. Most of the times, if the astrologer is

skilled that many or most of the things can be figured out with the

only D1 and D9 chart, which would be enough of the reading... this is

as per my experience that if the astrologer is skilled enough then

only D1 and D9 charts will be giving very good results. Because as I

said, it is divinity. On the other hand most of us never need so much

accurate predictions to use other divisional charts. Also advanced

tools like Arudhas, special lagnas etc are so subtle facts and we in

general does not need them that much. However it is really great when

an astrologer can and do use them, but that is like, "More than

enough". [That is really very good, of course.]

 

I am not much expert in Varga Charts but I would like to write

something surely when I have some time.

 

Best wishes,

Tanvir.

 

, SRCKaimal <srckaimal@a...>

wrote:

> Dear Tanvir,

> Your article is awaitied with great anticipation!Hope it will cover

the

> effects of the planets in Vargothama but debilitated in the Rasi

chart.

> Usually most of the astrologers use only the D1 and D9 charts for

> prediction.Heavy stuff like Arudas,Argalas,Charakarakas,special

lagnas and

> diffrent dasas are rarely used.So if you can give special attention

to the

> application of D9,it will be very much apprecated.

> Regards

> Kaimal