2-& Surya, 2/5....re....moksha & transcendental meditation....& health & Ayurved

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Dear Surya:

 

When I was attending this predominantly... Ayurved course...

we got a lot of experience through Vedic pulse taking to feel a person's

physiology and there various health situations....

 

Then, we learned a little Jyotish and learned to look at the person through

their charts, at the same time. This allowed for a wonderful complement.

 

Because once you can see what doshas are out of wack and then, especially,

validating those by the fact that their charts also show that imbalance due

to this or that malefic...

 

then gives great surity.... so that when you move into the healing phase,

then the remedial measures will be going towards the real cause of the

dis-order.

 

 

ciao

 

 

 

Mark K.

 

 

 

 

 

> surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv

>

> Thu, 5 Feb 2004 08:30:52 -0800 (PST)

>

> Re: 2- & Surya, 2/5....re....moksha & transcendental

> meditation....

>

> Mark,

>

> Thanks for your response.

>

> There is only one solace .. never mind where humanity

> stands today ... one day everyone has to reach the

> same destination !!

>

> I enjoyed this mail of yours ... Let me digest what

> you have said and come back with with some correlation

> to my own thougths ..

>

> I think it makes perfect sense .. I mean medicin and

> astrology ... I enjoy homeopathy ... and sometimes I

> cant help but wonder that using astrology (or simple

> numerology or even just palmistry) will lend to

> accuracy of diagnosis ... for example a Predominantly

> Cancerian tendencies should indicate to look for

> mental and emotional effects on the symptoms

> (Homeopathy is wonderfully symptomatic ) and that

> would lead you to a totally different line of

> medication ...

> similarly in ayurveda the different constitutions seem

> to correspond to different natures of zodiac

> themselves ... it's all one beautiful blend !!!

>

>

>

> --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

>> Dear Surya:

>>

>>

>>

>> Thank you for your compliment. But, you should have

>> seen me 30 years ago!

>> hehhe

>>

>> I have Moon & Saturn in the 12th house in Virgo, in

>> my chart...and I was

>> shy,

>> prone to much loneliness and even depression.

>>

>> Thank God, for my good Jupiter in the

>> 6th....cuz....it seemed to lead me....

>> to the light!

>>

>> And meditation.... Though I remember it taking

>> about 6 months of practice,

>> or experience

>> is a better word...and I really started to notice a

>> difference.

>>

>> Then after 2 years I noticed another huge shift...

>> And then 5...

>> then, 10...

>> and then....well on and on...

>>

>> Who would have ever guessed that I'd be able to

>> continue for this long?

>> hehehe

>> But, the nature of natural, effortless transcending

>> kind of meditation

>> means... it's easy

>> and has even gotten more and more easy....

>>

>> Now, I know what it means...to allow the Grace of

>> God.... to take over...

>>

>> It's just natural, going on anyway....and yet we

>> have a choice, either to

>> get in-tune with that or...not....

>>

>> Let's see you asked:

>>

>> I am not sure if you can talk about transcendental

>>> meditation .. but I would like to hear the basis

>> and

>>> process in it??

>>

>>

>> In Transcendental Meditation, as taught by His

>> Holiness Maharishi Mahesh

>> Yogi, is ...

>> that meditation should be easy and natural.

>>

>> He had a great Master and Maharishi himself, says...

>> he thought what with

>> the Vedas being so full of bliss and Brahman...etc.

>> that it should be easy

>> to access that...

>>

>> And he came up with this idea...that instead of

>> resisting and instead of

>> trying to meditate,

>> or trying to concentrate...maybe...

>> a better way could be found.

>>

>> And he came up with this amazing insight into the

>> Nature of the Mind, as

>> well as meditation.

>>

>> You'll hear it described sometimes....that the mind

>> is a 'monkey mind'....

>> always bouncing around from here to there. And

>> therefore you need to train

>> it, to be still...

>>

>> So, concentration is recommended.

>>

>> But, Maharishi knew how difficult this was from

>> experience and the history

>> of yoga so he thought of a different way.

>>

>> Later he's said, that I realized that it's actually

>> already built in, to the

>> very nature of the mind..

>> that effortless transcending can work.

>>

>> We don't try and meditate because TM is based on the

>> natural tendency of the

>> mind to move towards more and more.

>>

>> We're writing and or listening and suddenly from the

>> other room, one of our

>> favorite songs comes on the radio.

>>

>> Immediately, the mind shifts and moves towards and

>> starts enjoying that

>> music...because it's so charming.

>>

>> This experience shows that it's in the nature of the

>> mind to go for more and

>> more!

>> We don't have to do anything.

>>

>> Like that.... we just learn to give the mind an

>> inner direction...

>> and the whole, entire process of transcending....

>> deep within...

>>

>> happens....

>>

>> because it's inherently more and more blissful...the

>> deeper and deeper you

>> go!

>>

>> Well, it's one thing to hear that.... and then when

>> it became my experience,

>> wow!

>> who would have ever thought!

>>

>> So....good luck with your own progress....and I do

>> look forward to hearing

>> how you're doing

>> in another 30 years!

>>

>>

>> The other thing I've done in these years of my

>> path...has been to add the

>> wonderful study

>> and then insights of Jyotish!

>>

>>

>> This has made a wonderful supplement...to my

>> consciousness expansion,

>> experience from meditation.

>>

>> And together.... Jyotish and yoga.... are an

>> unbelievable...combination!!!

>>

>> Though I quite enjoy the Ayurveda knowledge too.

>>

>> When I was in India, in 1988, I was attending an

>> Ayurvedic course and my

>> Maharishi was there and said:

>>

>> "They must know Jyotish, because Ayurved & Jyotish

>> go hand and hand."

>>

>> So, coming back to the states, I started my journey

>> into Jyotish...and now

>> 16 years later I'm

>> so happy to report...even more insights and

>> blessings from this wonderful

>> Vedic science!

>>

>> take care

>>

>>

>> Mark Kincaid

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> PS....I know you're on my list...for those of you

>> who haven't heard: I also

>> write a Jyotish newsletter. It includes a daily,

>> Transits newsletter as

>> well as other aspects of Jyotish as well. If

>> anyone else in this group is

>> interested, in subscribing, feel free to contact me

>> personally at:

>> m.kincaid And the newsletter is free.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>> surya vishnubhotla

>> <surya_prakashv

>>>

>>> Thu, 5 Feb 2004 07:43:50 -0800 (PST)

>>>

>>> Re: 2- & Surya, 2/5....re....moksha

>>>

>>> Dear Mark,

>>>

>>> You really are lucky what else can I say?? you

>> seem to

>>> be enjoying mental bliss all the time !!! I hope

>> 30

>>> years down the line this will also be my own story

>> !!

>>>

>>> You are right .. we need not get rid of karma ...

>>>

>>

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Mark .. very true .. I was intending to say the same

....

 

but isnt it wonderful that some ayurveda doctors tell

you the exact symptoms just by feeling your nadi???

it's always fascinated me .. !!

 

 

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

> Dear Surya:

>

> When I was attending this predominantly... Ayurved

> course...

> we got a lot of experience through Vedic pulse

> taking to feel a person's

> physiology and there various health situations....

>

> Then, we learned a little Jyotish and learned to

> look at the person through

> their charts, at the same time. This allowed for a

> wonderful complement.

>

> Because once you can see what doshas are out of wack

> and then, especially,

> validating those by the fact that their charts also

> show that imbalance due

> to this or that malefic...

>

> then gives great surity.... so that when you move

> into the healing phase,

> then the remedial measures will be going towards the

> real cause of the

> dis-order.

>

>

> ciao

>

>

>

> Mark K.

>

>

>

>

>

> > surya vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv

> >

> > Thu, 5 Feb 2004 08:30:52 -0800 (PST)

> >

> > Re: 2- & Surya, 2/5....re....moksha &

> transcendental

> > meditation....

> >

> > Mark,

> >

> > Thanks for your response.

> >

> > There is only one solace .. never mind where

> humanity

> > stands today ... one day everyone has to reach the

> > same destination !!

> >

> > I enjoyed this mail of yours ... Let me digest

> what

> > you have said and come back with with some

> correlation

> > to my own thougths ..

> >

> > I think it makes perfect sense .. I mean medicin

> and

> > astrology ... I enjoy homeopathy ... and sometimes

> I

> > cant help but wonder that using astrology (or

> simple

> > numerology or even just palmistry) will lend to

> > accuracy of diagnosis ... for example a

> Predominantly

> > Cancerian tendencies should indicate to look for

> > mental and emotional effects on the symptoms

> > (Homeopathy is wonderfully symptomatic ) and

> that

> > would lead you to a totally different line of

> > medication ...

> > similarly in ayurveda the different constitutions

> seem

> > to correspond to different natures of zodiac

> > themselves ... it's all one beautiful blend !!!

> >

> >

> >

> > --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

> >> Dear Surya:

> >>

> >>

> >>

> >> Thank you for your compliment. But, you should

> have

> >> seen me 30 years ago!

> >> hehhe

> >>

> >> I have Moon & Saturn in the 12th house in Virgo,

> in

> >> my chart...and I was

> >> shy,

> >> prone to much loneliness and even depression.

> >>

> >> Thank God, for my good Jupiter in the

> >> 6th....cuz....it seemed to lead me....

> >> to the light!

> >>

> >> And meditation.... Though I remember it taking

> >> about 6 months of practice,

> >> or experience

> >> is a better word...and I really started to notice

> a

> >> difference.

> >>

> >> Then after 2 years I noticed another huge

> shift...

> >> And then 5...

> >> then, 10...

> >> and then....well on and on...

> >>

> >> Who would have ever guessed that I'd be able to

> >> continue for this long?

> >> hehehe

> >> But, the nature of natural, effortless

> transcending

> >> kind of meditation

> >> means... it's easy

> >> and has even gotten more and more easy....

> >>

> >> Now, I know what it means...to allow the Grace of

> >> God.... to take over...

> >>

> >> It's just natural, going on anyway....and yet we

> >> have a choice, either to

> >> get in-tune with that or...not....

> >>

> >> Let's see you asked:

> >>

> >> I am not sure if you can talk about

> transcendental

> >>> meditation .. but I would like to hear the basis

> >> and

> >>> process in it??

> >>

> >>

> >> In Transcendental Meditation, as taught by His

> >> Holiness Maharishi Mahesh

> >> Yogi, is ...

> >> that meditation should be easy and natural.

> >>

> >> He had a great Master and Maharishi himself,

> says...

> >> he thought what with

> >> the Vedas being so full of bliss and

> Brahman...etc.

> >> that it should be easy

> >> to access that...

> >>

> >> And he came up with this idea...that instead of

> >> resisting and instead of

> >> trying to meditate,

> >> or trying to concentrate...maybe...

> >> a better way could be found.

> >>

> >> And he came up with this amazing insight into the

> >> Nature of the Mind, as

> >> well as meditation.

> >>

> >> You'll hear it described sometimes....that the

> mind

> >> is a 'monkey mind'....

> >> always bouncing around from here to there. And

> >> therefore you need to train

> >> it, to be still...

> >>

> >> So, concentration is recommended.

> >>

> >> But, Maharishi knew how difficult this was from

> >> experience and the history

> >> of yoga so he thought of a different way.

> >>

> >> Later he's said, that I realized that it's

> actually

> >> already built in, to the

> >> very nature of the mind..

> >> that effortless transcending can work.

> >>

> >> We don't try and meditate because TM is based on

> the

> >> natural tendency of the

> >> mind to move towards more and more.

> >>

> >> We're writing and or listening and suddenly from

> the

> >> other room, one of our

> >> favorite songs comes on the radio.

> >>

> >> Immediately, the mind shifts and moves towards

> and

> >> starts enjoying that

> >> music...because it's so charming.

> >>

> >> This experience shows that it's in the nature of

> the

> >> mind to go for more and

> >> more!

>

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