Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Dear Surya: I love reading about Vedic knowledge. Having been a student myself for over 30 years now, it's still so stirring hearing about all the amazing ways that Ved has understood life. I've been on this yoga, sidha path now, for these many years and I can attest to the amazing benefit I've received from years of powerful meditative, transcendence. I can remember, especially where my consciousness was at those 30 years ago and I can only thank God....for being lead to this progress. I can also attest to the extreme power that comes from the grace of God, also of which opens up more....during transcendence. Some don't realize that when you transcend.... you're actually not doing it, a great understanding of transcending is that you let nature conduct the process. We begin it, so we gain benefit from that choice....but even a little effortless, experience shows what my teacher always said, that nature or God, is that which conducts transcendence. We just start and let go...and God pulls us to himself.... The mind and heart....moves inward toward that transcendental glory not through any effort...but by grace. Conducted as it is....due to the increasing charm that each step experiences... the whole process.... as if happens by itself... Now, we can experience that moksha...is a natural and effortless process. The only thing that's an effort is getting to a chair, twice a day! heehe Though that is obviously more difficult then people realize sometimes.... But, once begun...it's due to the grace of God....that we transcend ourselves, our minds, our hearts, our bodies.... and even, all our karmas.... I do believe, however, that karmas don't all have to be.....destroyed... but we use them, like a boat...to get to the other shore... The boat itself is inconsequential... It just serves us to find liberation. Sincerely, Mark Kincaid > surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv > > Thu, 5 Feb 2004 01:37:18 -0800 (PST) > > Re: moksha > > Dear Friend, > > There are four kinds of Karma that humans are > subjected to as per Hindu shastra: > two that represent fate : > a) Sanchita karma - Our accumulated Karma from all > past times > b) Prarabdha Karma ? The Karma from our past lives > kept for us to experience in our current life .. > > Two that represent free will: > Kriyamana Karma ? This is our free will to take > current actions to change our current life situation. > Agama Karma ? This is our free will to make a plan or > set an intention to take an action in the future. > > In addition to these 4 types of karma there are three > levels of magnitude in Karma : > Fixed karma (Dridha) ? This is karma that cannot be > changed by any effort on our part. Only the grace of > God can alter fixed karma (Dridha). > > Mixed karma (Dridha/Adridha) ? This is karma that can > be changed but only with substantial effort. > > Non-Fixed karma (Adridha) ? This is karma that can be > easily changed with some effort. > > It's not so easy to break away from the karma of the > past ... unless we sufficiently advance in our > spiritual growth ... There are specific ways though > rigerous to break from karma and attain moksha ... > > Raja yoga, siddha yoga, sahaja yoga claim to clear > karma when followed rigerously ... and luckily none of > them need you to give up your normal life for > advancement ... > > There is another theory ... of the 7 chakras from the > Muladhara to Sahasrara ... the bottom 3 correspond to > the spiritual plane .. the top 3 to the spiritual > plane ... the Heart chakra to both the planes .. so > balancing Heart chakra by cleaning it will slowly > elevate a person towards the higher reaches of > spirituality ... and when one is able to synchronize > all the chakras and make energy flow from muladhara to > sahasrara one attains liberation .. > > This is very loosely said ... I hope we can talk about > this more later bye for now > > Surya. > > > --- jayanshul <jayanshul wrote: >> To Jyotish remedies members, >> >> 1..Does anyone has ideas how a married person with >> children can >> attain moksha? >> >> 2..I understand that to attain moksha your pap karma >> should be paid >> off.How can we nullify the pap karmas ? >> >> 3.any suggestions >> >> >> nina >> >> > > > > > Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. > http://taxes./filing.html > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2004 Report Share Posted February 5, 2004 Dear Mark, You really are lucky what else can I say?? you seem to be enjoying mental bliss all the time !!! I hope 30 years down the line this will also be my own story !! You are right .. we need not get rid of karma ... here is something intersting: We need to do Punya (Good Karma) to elivate us to a state where invite good things in life and the grace of god .. after that neither punya nor papa matter... it's just a process of submitting to the divine will and accepting and willing to be worked upon by the god .... I am not sure if you can talk about transcendental meditation .. but I would like to hear the basis and process in it?? Will you guys believe me if I told you that the other day I met a person who came to conduct a yagna here from the himalayas .. and his age was 115 years>?? and he barely looked 40 years with almost 14 feet long hair??? it took some 20 buckets of water to get his hair wet for Puja --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote: > Dear Surya: > > I love reading about Vedic knowledge. Having been a > student myself for over > 30 years now, it's still so stirring hearing about > all the amazing ways that > Ved has understood life. > > I've been on this yoga, sidha path now, for these > many years and I can > attest to the amazing benefit I've received from > years of powerful > meditative, transcendence. > > I can remember, especially where my consciousness > was at those 30 years ago > and I can only thank God....for being lead to this > progress. > > I can also attest to the extreme power that comes > from the grace of God, > also of which opens up more....during transcendence. > > Some don't realize that when you transcend.... > you're actually not doing it, > a great understanding of transcending is that you > let nature conduct the > process. > > We begin it, so we gain benefit from that > choice....but even a little > effortless, experience shows what my teacher always > said, that nature or > God, is that which conducts transcendence. > > We just start and let go...and God pulls us to > himself.... > > The mind and heart....moves inward toward that > transcendental glory not > through any effort...but by grace. > > Conducted as it is....due to the increasing charm > that each step > experiences... the whole process.... as if happens > by itself... > > Now, we can experience that moksha...is a natural > and effortless process. > > The only thing that's an effort is getting to a > chair, twice a day! heehe > > Though that is obviously more difficult then people > realize sometimes.... > > But, once begun...it's due to the grace of > God....that we transcend > ourselves, our minds, our hearts, our bodies.... > and even, all our karmas.... > > I do believe, however, that karmas don't all have to > be.....destroyed... > but we use them, like a boat...to get to the other > shore... > > The boat itself is inconsequential... It just serves > us to find liberation. > > > Sincerely, > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > > surya vishnubhotla > <surya_prakashv > > > > Thu, 5 Feb 2004 01:37:18 -0800 (PST) > > > > Re: moksha > > > > Dear Friend, > > > > There are four kinds of Karma that humans are > > subjected to as per Hindu shastra: > > two that represent fate : > > a) Sanchita karma - Our accumulated Karma from all > > past times > > b) Prarabdha Karma ? The Karma from our past lives > > kept for us to experience in our current life .. > > > > Two that represent free will: > > Kriyamana Karma ? This is our free will to take > > current actions to change our current life > situation. > > Agama Karma ? This is our free will to make a plan > or > > set an intention to take an action in the future. > > > > In addition to these 4 types of karma there are > three > > levels of magnitude in Karma : > > Fixed karma (Dridha) ? This is karma that cannot > be > > changed by any effort on our part. Only the grace > of > > God can alter fixed karma (Dridha). > > > > Mixed karma (Dridha/Adridha) ? This is karma that > can > > be changed but only with substantial effort. > > > > Non-Fixed karma (Adridha) ? This is karma that can > be > > easily changed with some effort. > > > > It's not so easy to break away from the karma of > the > > past ... unless we sufficiently advance in our > > spiritual growth ... There are specific ways > though > > rigerous to break from karma and attain moksha ... > > > > Raja yoga, siddha yoga, sahaja yoga claim to clear > > karma when followed rigerously ... and luckily > none of > > them need you to give up your normal life for > > advancement ... > > > > There is another theory ... of the 7 chakras from > the > > Muladhara to Sahasrara ... the bottom 3 correspond > to > > the spiritual plane .. the top 3 to the spiritual > > plane ... the Heart chakra to both the planes .. > so > > balancing Heart chakra by cleaning it will slowly > > elevate a person towards the higher reaches of > > spirituality ... and when one is able to > synchronize > > all the chakras and make energy flow from > muladhara to > > sahasrara one attains liberation .. > > > > This is very loosely said ... I hope we can talk > about > > this more later bye for now > > > > Surya. > > > > > > --- jayanshul <jayanshul wrote: > >> To Jyotish remedies members, > >> > >> 1..Does anyone has ideas how a married person > with > >> children can > >> attain moksha? > >> > >> 2..I understand that to attain moksha your pap > karma > >> should be paid > >> off.How can we nullify the pap karmas ? > >> > >> 3.any suggestions > >> > >> > >> nina > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > Finance: Get your refund fast by filing > online. > > http://taxes./filing.html > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL > !~ > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > Finance: Get your refund fast by filing online. http://taxes./filing.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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