Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Hello, This mathematical difference between the Sidereal and the Tropical zodiacs is called the “ayanamsha” in Sanskrit. On January 1st 1950, the ayanamsha was at 23 degrees 09 minutes. In your western chart, Make a list of your planets and their degrees as shown below. Subtract the ayanamsha or 23 degrees from each Tropical planetary position and the ascendant to get their Sidereal position. Example Calculations: Tropical Positions Sidereal Positions Asc: 11 Gemini – 23 = 18 Taurus Sun: 14 Scorpio – 23 = 21 Libra Moon: 10 Virgo – 23 = 17 Leo Mercury: 28 Libra – 23 = 5 Libra Venus: 8 Libra – 23 = 15 Virgo Mars: 25 Capricorn – 23 = 2 Capricorn Jupiter: 9 Pisces – 23 = 16 Aquarius Saturn: 24 Aquarius – 23 = 1 Aquarius North Node: 18 Sagittarius – 23 = 5 Scorpio South Node: 18 Gemini – 23 = 5 Taurus (Optional) Uranus: 24 Leo – 23 = 1 Leo Neptune: 3 Libra – 23 = 10 Virgo Pluto: 14 Virgo – 23 = 21 Leo An easy way to do this in your head, if the planet’s degrees are less than 23 degrees in any given sign, is to add 7 degrees and go back a sign. For example, if a planet is at 11 degrees Gemini then add 7 degrees and go back to Taurus. The Sidereal position would be 18 degrees Taurus. However if the degrees is greater than 23 like it seems to be in your sons case, the sign will be the same in both the zodiacs ... so there is nothing to get confused about If you want to get the exact position of the planet down to the minute then get out a calculator and calculate the exact ayanamsha of the year and month you were born. Use the following dates for the ayanamsha as a starting point: January 1st 1940 - 23 degrees 01 minutes January 1st 1950 - 23 degrees 09 minutes January 1st 1960 - 23 degrees 18 minutes January 1st 1970 - 23 degrees 26 minutes January 1st 1980 - 23 degrees 34 minutes Use these approximate figures: 4 minutes 11 seconds per 5 years 1 minute 40 seconds per 2 years 50 seconds per 1 year 4 seconds per month I hope this clears things for you Happy learning !! --- Stephani Grace Miller <smiller wrote: > Hi, > > My Name is Stephani... I have begun my studies and > put together my own > chart, however there are a couple of things which I > am unsure of: > > 1.) Western Astrology has me as Gemini.... Eastern > Astrology has me as > Taurus... (May 31 1969) I did my Sons chart also, > and he is still the same > sign in both. > > 2.) Being born in May, would I use the Daylight > Savings Time in the > SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting./ps/sb/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Dear Stephani, Can you give me your birth details in full - DOB , place , and time ? Your mail has been suddenly truncated hence all the details are not available. Also shoot out your queries. Let me know whether you want the group to know the details about predictions or want it individually. Anil - Stephani Grace Miller Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:16 PM re....Western & Eastern Astrologys.... Hi, My Name is Stephani... I have begun my studies and put together my own chart, however there are a couple of things which I am unsure of: 1.) Western Astrology has me as Gemini.... Eastern Astrology has me as Taurus... (May 31 1969) I did my Sons chart also, and he is still the same sign in both. 2.) Being born in May, would I use the Daylight Savings Time in the ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Steph...do you have an astro program (vedic) or a western program that does vedic charts? Just send your birth info and one of us can email you a chart. I would be happy to do that as I have several programs. There's also astrodienst.com I believe that does free charts on the web (vedic too) and other free programs. Renee surya vishnubhotla [surya_prakashv] Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:13 AM Re: re....Western & Eastern Astrologys.... Hello, This mathematical difference between the Sidereal and the Tropical zodiacs is called the "ayanamsha" in Sanskrit. On January 1st 1950, the ayanamsha was at 23 degrees 09 minutes. In your western chart, Make a list of your planets and their degrees as shown below. Subtract the ayanamsha or 23 degrees from each Tropical planetary position and the ascendant to get their Sidereal position. Example Calculations: Tropical Positions Sidereal Positions Asc: 11 Gemini - 23 = 18 Taurus Sun: 14 Scorpio - 23 = 21 Libra Moon: 10 Virgo - 23 = 17 Leo Mercury: 28 Libra - 23 = 5 Libra Venus: 8 Libra - 23 = 15 Virgo Mars: 25 Capricorn - 23 = 2 Capricorn Jupiter: 9 Pisces - 23 = 16 Aquarius Saturn: 24 Aquarius - 23 = 1 Aquarius North Node: 18 Sagittarius - 23 = 5 Scorpio South Node: 18 Gemini - 23 = 5 Taurus (Optional) Uranus: 24 Leo - 23 = 1 Leo Neptune: 3 Libra - 23 = 10 Virgo Pluto: 14 Virgo - 23 = 21 Leo An easy way to do this in your head, if the planet's degrees are less than 23 degrees in any given sign, is to add 7 degrees and go back a sign. For example, if a planet is at 11 degrees Gemini then add 7 degrees and go back to Taurus. The Sidereal position would be 18 degrees Taurus. However if the degrees is greater than 23 like it seems to be in your sons case, the sign will be the same in both the zodiacs ... so there is nothing to get confused about If you want to get the exact position of the planet down to the minute then get out a calculator and calculate the exact ayanamsha of the year and month you were born. Use the following dates for the ayanamsha as a starting point: January 1st 1940 - 23 degrees 01 minutes January 1st 1950 - 23 degrees 09 minutes January 1st 1960 - 23 degrees 18 minutes January 1st 1970 - 23 degrees 26 minutes January 1st 1980 - 23 degrees 34 minutes Use these approximate figures: 4 minutes 11 seconds per 5 years 1 minute 40 seconds per 2 years 50 seconds per 1 year 4 seconds per month I hope this clears things for you Happy learning !! --- Stephani Grace Miller <smiller wrote: > Hi, > > My Name is Stephani... I have begun my studies and > put together my own > chart, however there are a couple of things which I > am unsure of: > > 1.) Western Astrology has me as Gemini.... Eastern > Astrology has me as > Taurus... (May 31 1969) I did my Sons chart also, > and he is still the same > sign in both. > > 2.) Being born in May, would I use the Daylight > Savings Time in the > SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting./ps/sb/ ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Hi Anil, I knew a man named Anil... he's now Swami Suryadevananda My Birth Details are May 31 1969 1:30 am Brantford, Ontario, Canada 80W16 43N59 Stephani gogatea [gogatea (AT) vsnl (DOT) com]Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:14 AMSubject: Re: re....Western & Eastern Astrologys.... Dear Stephani, Can you give me your birth details in full - DOB , place , and time ? Your mail has been suddenly truncated hence all the details are not available. Also shoot out your queries. Let me know whether you want the group to know the details about predictions or want it individually. Anil - Stephani Grace Miller Tuesday, February 03, 2004 9:16 PM re....Western & Eastern Astrologys.... Hi, My Name is Stephani... I have begun my studies and put together my own chart, however there are a couple of things which I am unsure of: 1.) Western Astrology has me as Gemini.... Eastern Astrology has me as Taurus... (May 31 1969) I did my Sons chart also, and he is still the same sign in both. 2.) Being born in May, would I use the Daylight Savings Time in the ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Thank you! This helps a lot Stephani surya vishnubhotla [surya_prakashv] Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:13 AM Re: re....Western & Eastern Astrologys.... Hello, This mathematical difference between the Sidereal and the Tropical zodiacs is called the ayanamsha in Sanskrit. On January 1st 1950, the ayanamsha was at 23 degrees 09 minutes. In your western chart, Make a list of your planets and their degrees as shown below. Subtract the ayanamsha or 23 degrees from each Tropical planetary position and the ascendant to get their Sidereal position. Example Calculations: Tropical Positions Sidereal Positions Asc: 11 Gemini 23 = 18 Taurus Sun: 14 Scorpio 23 = 21 Libra Moon: 10 Virgo 23 = 17 Leo Mercury: 28 Libra 23 = 5 Libra Venus: 8 Libra 23 = 15 Virgo Mars: 25 Capricorn 23 = 2 Capricorn Jupiter: 9 Pisces 23 = 16 Aquarius Saturn: 24 Aquarius 23 = 1 Aquarius North Node: 18 Sagittarius 23 = 5 Scorpio South Node: 18 Gemini 23 = 5 Taurus (Optional) Uranus: 24 Leo 23 = 1 Leo Neptune: 3 Libra 23 = 10 Virgo Pluto: 14 Virgo 23 = 21 Leo An easy way to do this in your head, if the planets degrees are less than 23 degrees in any given sign, is to add 7 degrees and go back a sign. For example, if a planet is at 11 degrees Gemini then add 7 degrees and go back to Taurus. The Sidereal position would be 18 degrees Taurus. However if the degrees is greater than 23 like it seems to be in your sons case, the sign will be the same in both the zodiacs ... so there is nothing to get confused about If you want to get the exact position of the planet down to the minute then get out a calculator and calculate the exact ayanamsha of the year and month you were born. Use the following dates for the ayanamsha as a starting point: January 1st 1940 - 23 degrees 01 minutes January 1st 1950 - 23 degrees 09 minutes January 1st 1960 - 23 degrees 18 minutes January 1st 1970 - 23 degrees 26 minutes January 1st 1980 - 23 degrees 34 minutes Use these approximate figures: 4 minutes 11 seconds per 5 years 1 minute 40 seconds per 2 years 50 seconds per 1 year 4 seconds per month I hope this clears things for you Happy learning !! --- Stephani Grace Miller <smiller wrote: > Hi, > > My Name is Stephani... I have begun my studies and > put together my own > chart, however there are a couple of things which I > am unsure of: > > 1.) Western Astrology has me as Gemini.... Eastern > Astrology has me as > Taurus... (May 31 1969) I did my Sons chart also, > and he is still the same > sign in both. > > 2.) Being born in May, would I use the Daylight > Savings Time in the > SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it! http://webhosting./ps/sb/ ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Your Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 3, 2004 Report Share Posted February 3, 2004 Renee, I downloaded the 30 day trial of Junior Jyotish... I'm so used to the Western Charts...haha Though this is very interesting learning... I don't want to start the interpretations until I am sure that I have the Charts done right. And then,,, it will be interesting to find out the truth of who I am, maybe this is why I have had so much struggle so far in life... I haven't been reading my influences properly... could explain why all is messed up right now and why I haven't figured out some things like my career/ job that sort of thing. Does the Vedic distinguish between Daylight Savings Time and Eastern Standard Time in my part of the world? Stephani Renee Serrano [firecracker (AT) maineline (DOT) net]Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:20 AMTo: Subject: RE: re....Western & Eastern Astrologys....Steph...do you have an astro program (vedic) or a westernprogram that does vedic charts? Just send your birth infoand one of us can email you a chart. I would be happy to dothat as I have several programs. There's alsoastrodienst.com I believe that does free charts on the web(vedic too) and other free programs.Reneesurya vishnubhotla [surya_prakashv ] Tuesday, February 03, 2004 11:13 AMTo: Subject: Re: re....Western & Eastern Astrologys....Hello,This mathematical difference between the Sidereal andthe Tropical zodiacs is called the "ayanamsha" inSanskrit. On January 1st 1950, the ayanamsha was at 23degrees 09 minutes. In your western chart, Make a list of your planets andtheir degrees as shown below. Subtract the ayanamshaor 23 degrees from each Tropical planetary positionand the ascendant to get their Sidereal position. Example Calculations:Tropical Positions Sidereal PositionsAsc: 11 Gemini - 23 = 18 TaurusSun: 14 Scorpio - 23 = 21 LibraMoon: 10 Virgo - 23 = 17 LeoMercury: 28 Libra - 23 = 5 LibraVenus: 8 Libra - 23 = 15 VirgoMars: 25 Capricorn - 23 = 2 CapricornJupiter: 9 Pisces - 23 = 16 AquariusSaturn: 24 Aquarius - 23 = 1 AquariusNorth Node: 18 Sagittarius - 23 = 5 ScorpioSouth Node: 18 Gemini - 23 = 5 Taurus(Optional)Uranus: 24 Leo - 23 = 1 LeoNeptune: 3 Libra - 23 = 10 VirgoPluto: 14 Virgo - 23 = 21 LeoAn easy way to do this in your head, if the planet'sdegrees are less than 23 degrees in any given sign, isto add 7 degrees and go back a sign. For example, if aplanet is at 11 degrees Gemini then add 7 degrees andgo back to Taurus. The Sidereal position would be 18degrees Taurus. However if the degrees is greater than 23 like itseems to be in your sons case, the sign will be thesame in both the zodiacs ... so there is nothing toget confused about If you want to get the exact position of the planetdown to the minute then get out a calculator andcalculate the exact ayanamsha of the year and monthyou were born. Use the following dates for the ayanamsha as astarting point:January 1st 1940 - 23 degrees 01 minutes January 1st 1950 - 23 degrees 09 minutes January 1st 1960 - 23 degrees 18 minutes January 1st 1970 - 23 degrees 26 minutes January 1st 1980 - 23 degrees 34 minutes Use these approximate figures:4 minutes 11 seconds per 5 years1 minute 40 seconds per 2 years50 seconds per 1 year4 seconds per monthI hope this clears things for you Happy learning !!--- Stephani Grace Miller <smiller (AT) bfree (DOT) on.ca> wrote:> Hi,> > My Name is Stephani... I have begun my studies and> put together my own> chart, however there are a couple of things which I> am unsure of:> > 1.) Western Astrology has me as Gemini.... Eastern> Astrology has me as> Taurus... (May 31 1969) I did my Sons chart also,> and he is still the same> sign in both.> > 2.) Being born in May, would I use the Daylight> Savings Time in the> Do you ? SiteBuilder - Free web site building tool. Try it!http://webhosting./ps/sb/~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ LinksTo visit your group on the web, go to:/To from this group, send an email to:Your use of is subject to: ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ To visit your group on the web, go to:/ To from this group, send an email to: Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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