2-& Surya....2/2....re....Western & Eastern Astrologys....

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Dear Surya:

 

One of the things one learns from 'Astrology' as a whole, is that we are

all, many qualities all at once. We're a thinking entity. We're a feeling

person, and we have an ego center. We also have bodies....

 

Then, Astrology comes along and describes even more deeply that we are this

subtle flavor of Sun in Capricorn, energy, like right now.... while another

person also born during the Sun in Capricorn month... but because they have

different Moon's.... have a completely different inner quality of 'feeling'

nature.

 

Now, as far as comparing the 2 systems I do, think, eventually, we'll have

to resolve this one dichotomy between the two...and that is.... which system

is more accurate?

 

The fact that Western Astrology says that we're basically, a symbolic

knowledge still doesn't settle well with modern day scientists....

 

And my belief is eventually, we'll have to accept that Jyotish is more

precise.

 

What you need to do, is look within yourself... and in reading the

descriptions of the various configurations...ask yourself...which

description fits you better?

 

Also, you need to study the other Planetary situations too.... Many people

who know both their Western and Eastern Charts...feel 'relevance' from both

but more preciseness from their Eastern charts....

 

One last positive thing I'd like to say re. Western Astrology is I believe

they have a few qualities of Astrology, more right then even the Eastern

System.

 

For example, Western believes the Sun is the more important astrological

reality whereas the Eastern system believes the Moon is the more important

one!

 

Well, when you study Jyotish long enough, especially studying both the

transits and people's charts...

 

you understand that the Moon is indeed important...but you can't help but

feel so is the Sun!

 

Like that there are strengths and weaknesses in both systems....

 

Eventually, I believe we'll find a kind of blending going on....

 

but... still, you're still going to have to look inside yourself... and

decide which description fits you the best...

 

I'd also recomend you have your chart done, by a good, professional

astrologer (Jyotish) who will be able to help you 'feel' your Jyotish chart,

more vividly.

 

 

 

Good luck

 

 

 

 

Sincerely,

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

 

PS....I don't know if you've heard, but I also write a Jyotish newsletter.

It's includes a daily, Transits newsletter as well as other aspects of

Jyotish as well. If you, or anyone else in this group is interested, in

subscribing, feel free to contact me personally at:

m.kincaid And the newsletter is free.

 

 

 

 

 

> surya vishnubhotla <surya_prakashv

>

> Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:01:14 -0800 (PST)

>

> Re: Focus Change

>

> Dear Friends ... dear Dharmananda

>

> I have been spending times on learing astrology ..

> however there is one question that is confounding me

> as I try to understand the western and eastern methods

> of casting and predicting horoscopes ...

>

> that is ... my ascendant as per vedic horoscope is

> scorpio .. while the western system says it's

> saggitarius ... similarly the moon and the sun signs

> are also different ...

>

> I understand this is because of the difference in

> ayanamsa and the starting point of reference that is

> used in either methodologies ..

>

> what I dont understand is how can I be both Taurus and

> Gemini in the same breath?? does this mean that the

> characters attributed to taurus is similar to those

> attributed to gemini in these two systems??

>

> Any discussion and insight into this will be

> appreciated !!

>

> Surya Prakash.

>

> --- cerulean122000 <cerulean122000 wrote:

>>

>> There is a new group, Vedic Astrology Case Studies,

>> avalable at these

>> addresses:

>>

>> Post message: Vedic Astrologycases

>> Subscribe:

>> Vedic Astrologycases-

>> URL:

>> Vedic Astrologycases/

>>

>> From now on, I will cross-post my posts here to that

>> group. That

>> means posting to both groups at the same time. This

>> is easy to do by

>> email; you simply put the addresses of both groups

>> on the to-line.

>>

>> My intention is to gradually switch my attention

>> over to that group,

>> being careful to leave a trail behind. This other

>> group is new and

>> small, and I don't moderate it. But it seems to be

>> closer in

>> intention to my natural focus in Jyotish: a sharper

>> focus on fewer

>> cases, and more attention given to understanding. I

>> have been

>> careful, in posting this, to choose an auspicious

>> time: Exalted

>> Chandra rising in Krittika, Yoga karaka in 2nd,

>> chart ruler in 10th,

>> 4th ruler in 9th, Mars-12th ruler with Rahu in 12th.

>>

>> This Jyotish Remedies group is great, and we should

>> all thank Tanvir

>> for having it. It is, in itself, a upaye, a method

>> by which people

>> can be helped and jyotisha can have an excellerated

>> learning

>> experience. I am not going to be gone from it

>> completely, and will

>> certainly cross-post difficult cases back to it in

>> any event.

>> Particularly useful is the collection of Jyotish

>> scriptures in the

>> files section, which is how I came here in the first

>> place.

>>

>> Blessed Be

>> Dharmananda

>>

>>

>>

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Dear Mark,

 

Thanks for your post .. in some ways it mirrors my own

feelings ..

 

I sometimes feel that the parity is deeper than just

sun or moon being the basis ... however I cannot

define this feeling ... I wish someday astrology

starts to talk to me like it does to some people on

the group

 

I know a lot of talented astrologers ... very veyr

accurate in predicting ... but I have always been

dissatisfied because of the "feel" factor that you

have been mentioning ... there is so much of stress on

predicting events that I sometimes feel lost as to the

changes that I have to make to myself to adapt to

these events vis a vis my own strengths and weaknesses

.... I will come back to you once I am more financially

sound for sure

 

Surya.

 

--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid wrote:

> Dear Surya:

>

> One of the things one learns from 'Astrology' as a

> whole, is that we are

> all, many qualities all at once. We're a thinking

> entity. We're a feeling

> person, and we have an ego center. We also have

> bodies....

>

> Then, Astrology comes along and describes even more

> deeply that we are this

> subtle flavor of Sun in Capricorn, energy, like

> right now.... while another

> person also born during the Sun in Capricorn

> month... but because they have

> different Moon's.... have a completely different

> inner quality of 'feeling'

> nature.

>

> Now, as far as comparing the 2 systems I do, think,

> eventually, we'll have

> to resolve this one dichotomy between the two...and

> that is.... which system

> is more accurate?

>

> The fact that Western Astrology says that we're

> basically, a symbolic

> knowledge still doesn't settle well with modern day

> scientists....

>

> And my belief is eventually, we'll have to accept

> that Jyotish is more

> precise.

>

> What you need to do, is look within yourself... and

> in reading the

> descriptions of the various configurations...ask

> yourself...which

> description fits you better?

>

> Also, you need to study the other Planetary

> situations too.... Many people

> who know both their Western and Eastern

> Charts...feel 'relevance' from both

> but more preciseness from their Eastern charts....

>

> One last positive thing I'd like to say re. Western

> Astrology is I believe

> they have a few qualities of Astrology, more right

> then even the Eastern

> System.

>

> For example, Western believes the Sun is the more

> important astrological

> reality whereas the Eastern system believes the Moon

> is the more important

> one!

>

> Well, when you study Jyotish long enough, especially

> studying both the

> transits and people's charts...

>

> you understand that the Moon is indeed

> important...but you can't help but

> feel so is the Sun!

>

> Like that there are strengths and weaknesses in both

> systems....

>

> Eventually, I believe we'll find a kind of blending

> going on....

>

> but... still, you're still going to have to look

> inside yourself... and

> decide which description fits you the best...

>

> I'd also recomend you have your chart done, by a

> good, professional

> astrologer (Jyotish) who will be able to help you

> 'feel' your Jyotish chart,

> more vividly.

>

>

>

> Good luck

>

>

>

>

> Sincerely,

>

>

> Mark Kincaid

PS....I don't know if you've heard, but I also write

> a Jyotish newsletter.

> It's includes a daily, Transits newsletter as well

> as other aspects of

> Jyotish as well. If you, or anyone else in this

> group is interested, in

> subscribing, feel free to contact me personally at:

> m.kincaid And the newsletter is free.

>

>

>

>

>

> > surya vishnubhotla

> <surya_prakashv

> >

> > Fri, 30 Jan 2004 22:01:14 -0800 (PST)

> >

> > Re: Focus Change

> >

> > Dear Friends ... dear Dharmananda

> >

> > I have been spending times on learing astrology ..

> > however there is one question that is confounding

> me

> > as I try to understand the western and eastern

> methods

> > of casting and predicting horoscopes ...

> >

> > that is ... my ascendant as per vedic horoscope is

> > scorpio .. while the western system says it's

> > saggitarius ... similarly the moon and the sun

> signs

> > are also different ...

> >

> > I understand this is because of the difference in

> > ayanamsa and the starting point of reference that

> is

> > used in either methodologies ..

> >

> > what I dont understand is how can I be both Taurus

> and

> > Gemini in the same breath?? does this mean that

> the

> > characters attributed to taurus is similar to

> those

> > attributed to gemini in these two systems??

> >

> > Any discussion and insight into this will be

> > appreciated !!

> >

> > Surya Prakash.

> >

> > --- cerulean122000 <cerulean122000

> wrote:

> >>

> >> There is a new group, Vedic Astrology Case

> Studies,

> >> avalable at these

> >> addresses:

> >>

> >> Post message: Vedic Astrologycases

> >> Subscribe:

> >> Vedic Astrologycases-

> >> URL:

> >>

> Vedic Astrologycases/

> >>

> >> From now on, I will cross-post my posts here to

> that

> >> group. That

> >> means posting to both groups at the same time.

> This

> >> is easy to do by

> >> email; you simply put the addresses of both

> groups

> >> on the to-line.

> >>

> >> My intention is to gradually switch my attention

> >> over to that group,

> >> being careful to leave a trail behind. This

> other

> >> group is new and

> >> small, and I don't moderate it. But it seems to

> be

> >> closer in

> >> intention to my natural focus in Jyotish: a

> sharper

> >> focus on fewer

> >> cases, and more attention given to understanding.

> I

> >> have been

> >> careful, in posting this, to choose an auspicious

> >> time: Exalted

> >> Chandra rising in Krittika, Yoga karaka in 2nd,

> >> chart ruler in 10th,

> >> 4th ruler in 9th, Mars-12th ruler with Rahu in

> 12th.

> >>

> >> This Jyotish Remedies group is great, and we

> should

> >> all thank Tanvir

>

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