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What texts might I read that talks about marriage extending beyond the present

relationship? That's truly fascinating. For that matter, might we talk a

little bit about the basic precepts of reincarnation and rebirth? I use two

different terms because in my understanding there is a difference between both

(whereas generally Western notions of reincarnation is all encompassing.. in

Hinduism reincarnation is for the Gods and re-birth is for us).

 

How does Hinduism account for new souls and population size? This is a very complex subject.

 

Best, Stephaniesanjaytechnology <sanjaytechnology > wrote:

Dear Stephanie:Please read every sentence in this response very carefully. The

role of Hindu women in society and the significance of marriage and other

things associated with it is a very vast, enlightening and interesting subject.

I do not know at what level of detail you want to pursue this. Starting from the

7 Pheras of marriage and the marriage significance to the Vedas is mind boggling

and reaches the ultimate levels of knowledge of the SELF. I leave you with a few

fundamentals. "According to Hinduism, a woman is a form of energy

(shaktiswarupini) or an aspect of Shakti. She is mata, the Mother Goddess, or

devi the auspicious one. As a young child she is kanya, the goddess Durga. As

a wife she is patni and saha dharma charini, a partner in her husbands

religious duties. As a mother she is

worthy of worship (matrudevobhava).A Marriage vowI take hold of your hand for

good fortune, so that with me, your husband, you may attain to old age. The

gods, Bhaga, Aryaman, Savitur and Pushan gave you to me for leading the life of

a householder. (Rig Veda X. 85.36)A marriage blessingBounteous Indra, endow this

bride with great sons and fortune. Give her ten sons and make the husband the

eleventh. (Rig Veda X.85.46)While Tying the Sacred Thread O maiden of many

auspicious qualities, I tie this sacred thread around your neck for my long

life. May you live happily for a hundred years! "A few simple and straight

facts about Hindu marriages:1. Hindus consider marriage as a sacred

relationship, between two souls, not just two bodies.2. Hindus believe that the

marriage relationship extends beyond one life. This is a very very powerful

concept. I would love to have a

discussion on this 3. In the traditional marriage, the bride and the bridegroom

are considered as divinities. The bride is first married to gods and then

placed under the bridegroom's protection as a gift from gods.4. At the time of

marriage, the bridegroom ties a sacred thread around the bride's neck and

accepts her hand (panigrahanam.) in marriage. Then they both take seven steps

(saptapadi) together around the fire uttering vows of friendship and mutual

loyalty.5. Hindu marriage tradition recognizes the importance of a woman in the

family. She is expected to share the responsibilities of the household like a

goddess (grihalakshmi) and enjoy the love and care of her husband and

children., Stephanie Marie

<chotoprajapati> wrote:> From a broad based philosophical vantage point, I

do understand the concept of attachment and desire as the bonds

that cause suffering. In fact, a scholar in my field once wrote that "coherence

in contradiction marks the force of desire." And it does seem to me that we

often find ourselves continually making sense of the pain and frustrations

because of certain desires that we have; appetites; attachments.> > But also,

while our overarching destination is detachment from all (liberation from

desire and therefore liberation from pain and suffering) isn't it also the case

that most of us will not achieve such a state in our current lifetimes? How can

we be members of families, partners in relationships, employees and employers,

in fact members of this Internet group discussion, without a profound sense of

attachment to ideologies, desires, etc??> > The grander more esoteric concepts

are wonderful intellectual fuel for the spirit. But as you can see, I'm also

asking more pragmatic

questions about living day to day inside a Hindu family. How do I draw

intersections between these grander issues and those of more pragmatic ones

like mothering, being a wife/lover, a best friend, a daughter, a sister, etc.

> > In a society, and for that matter a culture, that places heavy emphasis on

certain types of roles for women.... a woman is under tremendous social pressure

to perform certain functions. She often has no time to pursue these kinds of

ideas. Surely, you all see the complications that arise here? Might someone

speak to this? > > I teach my students high rhetorical theory. But at the

same time, I provide them with a field of visualization that puts that theory

into motion, into play in their very real very messy very complicated lives.

Thus far, much of what I've read here has been incredibly helpful and

informative. I've

taken lots of notes as your comments serve as points of departure for me in my

own study. Yet... I still need to understand how these ideas fuse with the

busy and sometimes laborious life of a hindu woman keeping up tradition.> >

astroneed <astroneed> wrote:> Dear Sir, > > how about Gaj kesari yog in

12th house. What does that mean ? > Also does ketu in 12th mean highly

spiritual person.> > > Regards> > > ASTRONEED> > > --- In

, "sanjaytechnology" > <sanjaytechnology>

wrote:> > All:> > > > We have become one very big family. This group is very

inspiring > and > > very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH. > > >

> > > The 12th house & the spiritual LINK> >

=====================================> > > > The 12th house, is not a very easy

house in materialistic terms; > > however, there exist hints in ancient texts

that indicate the > > spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house

of > paramount > > importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and

ascetics. > > Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and

> > matters such as 'pleasures of the couch' > > > > Generally speaking, one's

spiritual growth, also known as the quest > > for knowing oneself, gets a kick

start in a major way when one > > faces 'choices' that pertain to losing

something or someone who is > > extremely dear. > > > > During most spiritual

journeys, a time comes when one's attachments > > and clinging must be

challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably,

> > experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around > > which

the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually > > suffers the

loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the > > degree of

metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring > > within oneself,

varies between individuals, the profundity of the > > effect, however, is felt

unambiguously.> > > > A loss in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in

the > > spiritualistic. > > > > > > Example:> > > > Saturn in 12 the points to

2nd which indicates money loss through > > charities is extremely beneficial. >

> > > 12th in general means overcoming the materialistic aspects to a > tilt > >

towards the spiritual. '> > > > VENUS in 12th could indicate a battle

that is fought less at the > > mental level. However I have seen a VENUS in 12th

with KETU for a > > Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting combination. Here VENUS

is in > > own conjunct with debilitated KETU. > > > > ""The sun represents the

individuality and ego (which can readily > > become EGO!) and by virtue of

being placed in the 12th house would > > signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be

overcome by the nativity > > before any real spiritual advancement can commence.

This would be > > even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby >

> imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific > > focus as

during double duty as a significator of the self and ego, > > two keywords that

are primarily studied from the first house! > Should > > such a situation (sun

in cancer in a Leo rising nativity)

be > present > > in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the

path > > towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, > >

signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the > > expression and

self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant, > > lulls one into

minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how > > much more humble can one

appear", is what such a nativity feels? > The > > mantra for someone with such a

horoscopic signature obviously is > > to 'become' humble and not merely be

contented with > > simply "appearing" to be humble!""> > > > Please feel free

to respond and ADD. > > > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > > > Warm Regards. > >

> > --Sanjay Aggarwal> > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS

SURVIVAL !~ > > > > > Links> >

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