2-[JR], from MarkK., 1/18.... The 12th HOUSE.

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Dear Friends....

 

 

I'd like to make some comments about the amazing...and mysterious...12th

House...

 

I've read of both of the two extremes of possibilities regarding the 12th

House and I have to admit... I've found them to be very accurate...

 

I have a Libra Rising...and have both the Moon & Saturn in the 12th House.

 

And as early as I can remember...I've had both...a great love of the

Transcendent...God...and great...loss, ...feeling in my life...

 

Oh, yes...I have Jupiter in Pisces in the 6th....

 

So...I not only felt a great interest in the positive affairs of the 12th

House...God...and even ...transcendental experiences.....

 

however I also noticed I had plenty of the relative, materialistic

descriptions of lack of money, losses in terms...of happiness, loneliness,

shyness....etc....

 

However... an this is the interesting part...especially for our jyotish

remedies..group....

 

Immediately...when I started....'meditating'.... one great jyotish remedy..

and producing more restfulness and silence inside...my body, nervous system

and mind...

 

Immediately....the Sani grief...there....started to be less.

 

Then, many years later when I started studying Jyotish....and discovered

even more remedial measures....that I could ....pursue....

especially related...to Sani....

 

but even one's that could help me Moon, there....

 

again...I started.... experiencing...tremendous relief...in the painful,

negative.... sides of that house...

 

and then, miraculously.... much insight and progress and success in the

positive sides of the 12th house.... experiences of God.... spiritual

experience...etc....

 

I remember at one point, even, when I was contemplating....the nature of the

12th house...

 

And I was thinking.... but I want money!.....

ah...forgot to mention...

I have Sun, Mercury, Venus and Ketu...all in Leo...in the 11th...hehehe

 

So...why can't I attract more money....?

 

Then, I realized...there was a part of me...that was functioning...more as a

reclusive...especially in how I treat and interact with money....

 

And though I had no problem in wanting it, feeling deserving of it...

still it was not...to be found...

 

Then, it occured....that the 12th house...represents also...how we deal with

expenditures....

whereas the 11th house..deals with how we gain....

 

I have always been able to gain....but.... the 12th house also seemed to win

out!

 

So... I went to the library....and picked up all these books and videos...on

money matters and how one is supposed to treat and interact with money...

 

And the first rule I read...was one should have a savings plan....

 

One in fact should set a goal...for 6 months of one's 'expenditures'...or

expenses....that one has as a nest egg...

for protection....and financial security....

 

and this was just the first goal...in savings....

 

And then I realized...."Wow.... I don't think I've ever saved that much

money.

 

6-months? .... how about 6 weeks? or 6 days...?....maybe....

 

So...I stated on a savings..plan.... And I tell you the very first 7 or 8

months...were horrific...like pulling teeth...

 

but I remember how I felt after learning to save my first 1,000!....

 

wow... Iwas on cloud nine.... and that wasn't even the 6 months of

expenditures!

 

So...I persisted...and sometime...in the 2nd year...heheh

I reached that 6 month milestone...and for the first time, in my life...

 

I noticed.....not the intense, debilitating... exchausting...grief... or

pain due to no money!

 

That's got to be Sani...there!....hehehe

 

And for the very first time...I felt joy!...in money matters... and I

noticed whatever happend...whether the car needed repairs...or another...

unexpected expenditure...popped..up...

but for the very first..time...none of those...'12th house...expenditures'

bothered me!

 

And I realized...I had changed...my trends and tendencies.... and I had

found a jyotish remedy...that had plaged me for sooo long.

 

I also thought later...that perhaps I had felt 'guilty'....maybe spiritually

guilty....to look to money....for some solution....

 

but...also it occured...that money is to the world....what rest is to the

body and nervous system...

 

When you're well rested....you can handle the ups and downs...in life...

 

And when you're well...prepared financially....you're better prepared..to

withstand...the ups and downs...of outer, relative...life....

 

Also.... I found that by honoring...the more mundane, materialistic...

aspects of the 12th house... it didn't make me more materialistic!

 

which I'm sure I was afraid of...

 

but...in fact it allowed me to blossom...more... in terms...of the real

deep, spiritual nature...of the 12th house!

 

anyway....here's my thoughts....

 

 

Jai Guru!

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

PS.... as some of you know, I also create a daily Jyotish newsletter that

watches the transits of each day...as well as other fascinating...Jyotish

topics. If you'd like to ...feel free to contact me at:

m.kincaid. And the newsletter is free.

 

 

 

 

 

> "astroneed" <astroneed

>

> Sun, 18 Jan 2004 18:03:55 -0000

>

> Re: The 12th HOUSE.

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> how about Gaj kesari yog in 12th house. What does that mean ?

> Also does ketu in 12th mean highly spiritual person.

>

>

> Regards

>

>

> ASTRONEED

>

>

> , "sanjaytechnology"

> <sanjaytechnology> wrote:

>> All:

>>

>> We have become one very big family. This group is very inspiring

> and

>> very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH.

>>

>>

>> The 12th house & the spiritual LINK

>> =====================================

>>

>> The 12th house, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms;

>> however, there exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the

>> spiritual significance of the 12th house! It is a house of

> paramount

>> importance in the horoscopes of religious figures and ascetics.

>> Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and

>> matters such as 'pleasures of the couch'

>>

>> Generally speaking, one's spiritual growth, also known as the quest

>> for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a major way when one

>> faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or someone who is

>> extremely dear.

>>

>> During most spiritual journeys, a time comes when one's attachments

>> and clinging must be challenged and subsequently shed. Invariably,

>> experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots around

>> which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually

>> suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the

>> degree of metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring

>> within oneself, varies between individuals, the profundity of the

>> effect, however, is felt unambiguously.

>>

>> A loss in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in the

>> spiritualistic.

>>

>>

>> Example:

>>

>> Saturn in 12 the points to 2nd which indicates money loss through

>> charities is extremely beneficial.

>>

>> 12th in general means overcoming the materialistic aspects to a

> tilt

>> towards the spiritual. '

>>

>> VENUS in 12th could indicate a battle that is fought less at the

>> mental level. However I have seen a VENUS in 12th with KETU for a

>> Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting combination. Here VENUS is in

>> own conjunct with debilitated KETU.

>>

>> ""The sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily

>> become EGO!) and by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would

>> signify the lure of EGO, WHICH must be overcome by the nativity

>> before any real spiritual advancement can commence. This would be

>> even more so, should Leo be rising in the ascendant, thereby

>> imparting the sun with a natural and temporal or chart-specific

>> focus as during double duty as a significator of the self and ego,

>> two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house!

> Should

>> such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be

> present

>> in a chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path

>> towards self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task,

>> signified by the sun in the 12th remains the same, but the

>> expression and self-perception, thanks to the Saturn in ascendant,

>> lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task! "After all, how

>> much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity feels?

> The

>> mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is

>> to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with

>> simply "appearing" to be humble!""

>>

>> Please feel free to respond and ADD.

>>

>> Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti.

>>

>> Warm Regards.

>>

>> --Sanjay Aggarwal

>

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