Attachments and Detachment

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But also, while our overarching destination is detachment from all (liberation

from desire and therefore liberation from pain and suffering) isn't it also the

case that most of us will not achieve such a state in our current lifetimes?

How can we be members of families, partners in relationships, employees and

employers, in fact members of this Internet group discussion, without a

profound sense of attachment to ideologies, desires, etc??

 

The grander more esoteric concepts are wonderful intellectual fuel for the

spirit. But as you can see, I'm also asking more pragmatic questions about

living day to day inside a Hindu family. How do I draw intersections between

these grander issues and those of more pragmatic ones like mothering, being a

wife/lover, a best friend, a daughter, a sister, etc.

 

In a society, and for that matter a culture, that places heavy emphasis on

certain types of roles for women.... a woman is under tremendous social

pressure to perform certain functions. She often has no time to pursue these

kinds of ideas. Surely, you all see the complications that arise here? Might

someone speak to this?

 

I teach my students high rhetorical theory. But at the same time, I provide

them with a field of visualization that puts that theory into motion, into play

in their very real very messy very complicated lives. Thus far, much of what

I've read here has been incredibly helpful and informative. I've taken lots of

notes as your comments serve as points of departure for me in my own study.

Yet... I still need to understand how these ideas fuse with the busy and

sometimes laborious life of a hindu woman keeping up tradition.astroneed

<astroneed > wrote:

Dear Sir, how about Gaj kesari yog in 12th house. What does that mean ? Also

does ketu in 12th mean highly spiritual person.RegardsASTRONEED--- In

, "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology>

wrote:> All:> > We have become one very big family. This group is very

inspiring and > very learned. Let us keep pointing to the RIGHT PATH. > > > The

12th house & the spiritual LINK> =====================================> > The

12th house, is not a very easy house in materialistic terms; > however, there

exist hints in ancient texts that indicate the > spiritual significance of the

12th house! It is a house of paramount > importance in the horoscopes of

religious figures and ascetics.

> Confusingly, though, it has also been vested with attributes and > matters

such as 'pleasures of the couch' > > Generally speaking, one's spiritual

growth, also known as the quest > for knowing oneself, gets a kick start in a

major way when one > faces 'choices' that pertain to losing something or

someone who is > extremely dear. > > During most spiritual journeys, a time

comes when one's attachments > and clinging must be challenged and subsequently

shed. Invariably, > experiences at such points in time prove to be the pivots

around > which the wheel of spiritual progress turns! Whether one actually >

suffers the loss or merely faces the possibilities of such, and the > degree of

metamorphosis that such an event or eventuality can bring > within oneself,

varies between individuals, the profundity of the > effect, however, is felt

unambiguously.> > A loss

in the materialistic plane could mean a GAIN in the > spiritualistic. > > >

Example:> > Saturn in 12 the points to 2nd which indicates money loss through >

charities is extremely beneficial. > > 12th in general means overcoming the

materialistic aspects to a tilt > towards the spiritual. '> > VENUS in 12th

could indicate a battle that is fought less at the > mental level. However I

have seen a VENUS in 12th with KETU for a > Gemini Ascendant. Very interesting

combination. Here VENUS is in > own conjunct with debilitated KETU. > > ""The

sun represents the individuality and ego (which can readily > become EGO!) and

by virtue of being placed in the 12th house would > signify the lure of EGO,

WHICH must be overcome by the nativity > before any real spiritual advancement

can commence. This would be > even more so, should Leo be

rising in the ascendant, thereby > imparting the sun with a natural and temporal

or chart-specific > focus as during double duty as a significator of the self

and ego, > two keywords that are primarily studied from the first house! Should

> such a situation (sun in cancer in a Leo rising nativity) be present > in a

chart where Saturn the epitome of humbleness rises, the path > towards

self-effacement becomes harder and not easier! The task, > signified by the sun

in the 12th remains the same, but the > expression and self-perception, thanks

to the Saturn in ascendant, > lulls one into minimizing the extent of the task!

"After all, how > much more humble can one appear", is what such a nativity

feels? The > mantra for someone with such a horoscopic signature obviously is >

to 'become' humble and not merely be contented with > simply "appearing" to be

humble!""> >

Please feel free to respond and ADD. > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > Warm

Regards. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL

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