Guest guest Posted January 17, 2004 Report Share Posted January 17, 2004 Dear Sanjay! Wow...what a wonderful.... change of pace.... I love Philosophy....and Vedic...philosophy...is the best... I was in fact, a Philosophy major in college...until I came across this little book called 'How to Know God' .... It was a litte book on Yoga. Then, I stumbled upon a statement that was to change my life... 'The key to spiritual life....is the direct experience of God...' and I thought,....'Wow...no one ever told me I could experience...God! Well, that was it.... my Philosophical...bent... Jupiter in Pisces... in my chart... got catapolted...into a search for actual experience.... of Reality... God...or Brahman...like you describe... Learned meditation....not too long after that... and after awhile... started having those.... Reality...and eventually.... Brahman experiences... And now, I realize... there are some slight differences....between the God realization...experiences...and the Brahman ones! very fascinating..... I've been thinking for awhile...how fun it is to look at a person's chart to see...the spirituality...that's presently going on.... That's such a fascinating... use of Jyotish....especially in terms of trying to figure out...what we could do, according to our charts.... to literally ....draw more spirituality....or spiritual success to us! Thanks for the different....thoughts...today.... Sincerely, Mark Kincaid PS.... For those of you who haven't heard...I create a daily...Jyotish newsletter...which anyone can to. It's presently, primarily about the Transits...but also recently, have started creating an Advanced...newsletter as well for those who want to go more deeply into other areas of Jyotish. Please contact me at m.kincaid to . The newsletter is free too. > "sanjaytechnology" <sanjaytechnology > > Sat, 17 Jan 2004 17:06:03 -0000 > > Difficulties in Understanding Brahman. > > All: > > The knowledge of Brahman and the desire to fell Brahman is the > beginning of understanding of the "SELF". However, the statements > below are very powerful especiall the one "The Isa Upanishad warns > the students of Brahman not to take sides while approaching Brahman. > Those who worship the unmanifest (asambhutim) enter blinding > darkness and those who worship the manifest only (sambhutim) enter > into greater darkness. The right approach is to worship both and > realize one through the other." This is a very very powerful > statement. > > Read the statement below, and then the article below. > > A man knocked on the God's door. "Who's is there?" asked God from > within. "It's me," said the man. "Go away then. There is no room for > two," said God. The man departed and wandered in the arid desert > until he realized his error. Returning to the door, he knocked once > again. "Who's is there?" asked God as before. "You," answered the > man. "Then come in," God replied. > > > Aum Shanti Shanti Shanti. > > --Sanjay Aggarwal > > Difficulties in Understanding Brahman > Any attempt to explain Brahman to the satisfaction of a mind that is > driven by reason and familiar with the concretization thought is > fraught with enormous difficulties, because that which is > inexplicable cannot be explained by any amount of reasoning and > logic. Brahman is beyond the senses, beyond the mind, beyond our > intelligence and dreams. Then how can It be explained to the > satisfaction of an intellectual and curious mind? The Rigvedic seers > themselves had this problem in their mind when they called Him > vaguely as "IT" or "This" or "That" > > The difficulty in understanding and knowing Brahman is well > explained in the Kena Upanishad. Even gods are not free from their > ignorance of Brahman (II.2.1). All that we can understand about > Brahman is that we cannot understand It. Even after prolonged > spiritual practice and meditation, one cannot even conclude whether > one knows it or not. If a person thinks that he knows It, he does > not know that he does not know. To whomsoever It is not known, It is > known to him. But to whomsoever it is known, is not known to him. It > is not understood by those who understand it and understood by those > who do not understand it. It can be known only when one experiences > directly at all levels of consciousness. (II. 2. 2-4). > > Trying to worship Brahman incorrectly and ignorantly without knowing > the right approach can also result in great difficulties for a > person who is on the path to salvation. The Isa Upanishad warns the > students of Brahman not to take sides while approaching Brahman. > Those who worship the unmanifest (asambhutim) enter blinding > darkness and those who worship the manifest only (sambhutim) enter > into greater darkness. The right approach is to worship both and > realize one through the other. > > Even an enlightened seer like Yagnavalkya had difficulties in > explaining the nature of Brahman and his creation. While speaking to > Sakalya in Brihadaranyaka Upanishad, he declares, " That Self is not > this, not this. It is incomprehensible for it is not comprehended." > When Gargi Vacaknavi asks him too many questions, in the same > Upanishad he expresses his irritation saying, " Gargi, do not > question too much. Otherwise your head may fall off. You are asking > so many questions about a divinity about whom we are not expected to > ask many questions." > > Else where in the same Upanishad he resorts to negative terminology > to explain the inexplicable using such words as aksaram > (imperishable), asthulam (not gross), ananu (not subtle), ahrasvam > (nor short), adirgham (not long), achchayam (not shadow), atamah > (not tamasic) and so on (Brihadaranyaka III.8.8). > > What is the original state of Brahman? Even the seers do not seem to > have an answer. Uddalaka Aruni tells Svetaketu in Chandogya > Upanishad, that in the beginning the Being was alone, one only, one > without a second and in the next moment changes his statement > stating that according to some in the beginning the non-Being was > alone, without a second and that from that non-Being being was > produced. (VI.2.1) > > > > > ~! 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