2-[JR], & Shaluu, from Mark, 12/1.......re.....Marriage

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Dear Shaluu:

 

It was nice hearing back from you especially as to your situation.

Over the years I've spent a lot of time thinking about 'relationships' and

partnerships and Jyotish.

I think it's especially exciting because not only does Jyotish help us

understand why we have the different karmas that we do but most importantly

what we can do to change and transform the negatives....into positives.

This is the thing I love the most about this jyotish group is it's emphasis

on Remedys!

When I first started studying Jyotish many years ago, I noticed that all the

books that I read would have something like 195 pages on the Jyotish and

maybe!, 5 pages on remedial measures.

Even at the time I thought that was strange....and kind of imbalanced.

Then later, especially when I thought about my own path, growing up in the

TM tradition where meditation and growth and improvement is such an intimate

part of the practice and knowledge; it occured to me that this was! a rather

imbalanced emphasis on Jyotish.

So began my own particular and rather unique research in how can we not only

find our lives in our charts but how can we also find the solutions to our

problems and challenges.

In a nut shell, one of the greatest insights I've had in Jyotish is that the

malefics in our charts, not only stand for our obstacles and problems, but!

they also stand for our solutions.

So.... your Saturn and Mars, both aspecting and influencing, adversely your

prospects and hopes for success in the 7th house of marriage... are not!

just indicative of your karma or the problem...

but they're exactly! indicative of your Jyotish, Vedic Solutions!

 

If you want to be married, and yet, you find that there's this frustrating

delaying going on .... and when 'we' look at your chart, we find this very

predictable Saturnian delaying effect due to Sani being in the first house,

then, eureka!

Not only is Sani causing your delays and your frustrations.... but it's

really there to teach us something. Therefore, you need to look into the

nature of Saturn to determine what are you supposed to do to transform

Sani's effect into a benefic one.

 

Like that every malefic can not only explain our problems in life...but

themselves are truely the key to our Solutions!

 

Mars for example is not just indicative of Mars problems in marriage... but

is again, symbolic of something that you could do to make marriage and

partnerships of all kinds...more harmonious and fruitful.

 

In this regard I see it as a blessing that you've being delayed a bit, due

to Sani, because now you can put attention on really attracting a most ideal

mate so even after the Wedding, the marriage itself is free of strife and

problems.

 

I was also thinking what an interesting situation you are in.

Deeply connected to your family and India and the Vedic life....but living

in the West and growing up in those values as well.

 

I also think you are lucky if you can relate and accept and especially take

advantage of someone, picking a wonderful mate for yourself!

 

But.... living in the West has probably also confused you a bit in terms of

relationships and marriage.

 

We're quite screwed up in this regard.

 

So....

 

I've created a Jyotish program for relationships which includes at least 4

aspects of success according to Jyotish.

 

#1 ... There's the Moon's compatability between 2 people.... This is very

important because the two people should have a very natural repore that

feels more like the bliss and comfort of an 'old shoe' instead of a spanking

new, flashy and very uncomfortable fit!

 

#2.... The 2 people's overall charts should be compatible. In other words

the two individuals should have similar life goals. What do you want in

your life? How important is family and children? In India, this second

consideration is less important because most all children are householders.

In the West, however, we've gotten very preoccupied with many things and the

natural stages of life that Veda talks about, Brahmacharya stage, Education

stage, Karma, family stage and Recluse stage, retirement.... are certainly

not well understood.

 

#3.... It is important that both individuals be taught what karmas do they

have in their charts that will be helpful and not helpful in relationships.

 

In other words, it is very important that both individuals have good 'skill'

in terms of successful relations.

 

Mars in the 7th House is an indication of a skill that may need to be

improved in order to have a more easy, marriage.

 

Mars in the lst, 4th, 7th and 12th houses....all impact the 7th house and

indicate some 'karma' of need to improve skill in relationships.

 

Don't feel bad, 50% of our world's population have similar challenges.

 

But the great thing again, is that this malefic situation is also the Vedic

Solution!

 

You need to balance Mars in your life and as you do that, especially as it

relates to the 7th house and partners, then.... your Mars will behave more

benefically!

 

#4.... The other thing that's very important in terms of relationships and

marriage is to understand that we live in a very un-dharmic time and there

is a lot of ignorance 'out there' in regards to what makes up a successful

marriage.

 

My teacher, his Holiiness Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, has said that 'romantic

love, (for ex.) is one of the least important qualities, necessary for a

successful marriage.'

 

When I heard that I realized again, one of the reasons why so many of us in

the West and now even beginning to be in the East and other developing

countries; are so confused and unhappy and unsuccessful in terms of

relationships.

 

The old successful couples of every country have been trying to tell us what

makes for true success.

 

But, we haven't been listening.

 

Growing up in a climate, today, of Hollywood and un-natural, romantic

infatuation, no wonder so many people find it so difficult to be happy in

marriage.

 

So...don't allow the ignorances of our Western world confuse you when

deciding how and when to pick a wife.

 

It's much more simple then one might think.

 

Oh, yes... wanted to say.....the older, most successful couples tell us true

love doesn't come in the beginning like a bolt of lightning.... but instead

is the direct result of a life-time of love and devotion to each other!

 

That's another reason why compatability is so important! That two people

can be comfortable being together for a lifetime!

 

 

Anyway.... hope this helps....

 

 

So.... tell me, are you able to allow the wonderful 'matchmakers' of India

and Jyotish to help you find a bride or are you out there...trying like so

many other millions of westerners.... trying to find one on your own?

 

As it turns out....individuals, ourselves, are often the least qualified to

attract a good partner.

 

And that's why the tradition has been for matchmakers in every culture from

India, to Jewish to African...to all the ancient cultures.... had

matchmakers to pick a good mate!

 

Unfortunately the purity and effectiveness of this most laudable earthly

culture has become very lost and impure over time; so much so that

individuals today do not trust someone else to try and find a good mate.

 

Part of this is due to not understanding that we should not use this

marriage opportunity predominantly to bring better advantage to the family

and all that concern with the woman's dowry.

 

Many millions of individuals, therefore, in every culture have turned away

from these traditional ways of finding a good mate, because they don't trust

the 'system' any more.

 

But, today, we are very lucky, because the heart and soul of Vedic knowledge

is being enlivened and improved again such that it can be available to all.

 

Jyotish is just one facet of Vedic knowledge and look at how popular Yoga is

in the West......teaching millions of people how to meditate, transcend and

develop our inner potentials.

 

So....good luck... and tell me what your next step is?

 

Have you considered getting an arranged marriage?

 

Being from both cultures, you don't have to accept the first one?

 

You can look at several good mates for yourself?

 

You're very lucky that you're so close to this ancient knowledge, especially

related to matchmaking.

 

But, don't forget you're going to need to improve both Sani and Mars.... to

not only attract a good mate but also be happy in marriage!

 

 

 

 

Good luck and God bless!

 

 

 

Mark Kincaid

 

 

 

 

 

PS.... I also create a daily Jyotish newsletter which covers the daily

Transits of the Planets as well as many other fascinating areas of Jyotish.

 

If you're interested to contact me at: m.kincaid.

The newsletter is free.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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>"shaluuu2000" <pyarii

>

>Re: 2-, & Shaluu, from Mark, 11/28.......re..... How to time

marriage

>Mon, Dec 1, 2003, 9:00 AM

>

 

>

> Mr. Kincaid,

>

> I aplogize for my late reply. Thank You for your kind insight into my

> chart. I am from a semi traditional indian family, Though I was born

> and raised in the U.S. My parents raised us here adopting both

> cultures with a good balance. When we visit India we are able to mix

> with our cousins with no problem and I am very involved with the

> indian culture and values. In India girls get married quite early as

> you can understand I quite late. I inquired because mostly my parents

> are very worried, and impatient for my marriage. They are constantly

> bringing it up. I cannot say I do not think about it, but I feel I

> would be more patient if they were not so worried. I feel so bad that

> they are. This is mostly why I wanted to know what the status is for

> marriage or if marriage was even going to happen for me. Due to the

> natal saturn aspect on the seventh house and also mars in the

> seventh. I am trying to be patient and keep faith, it is hard though

> at times to be strong enough to let go to fate and not worry what the

> future will bring.

> Thank you again for your kind insight.

>

>

> , "Mark Kincaid"

> <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:

>> Dear Shaluu:

>>

>> There are two points that come to mind when I look at your chart.

>>

>> #1...Saturn in your first house, whilst Sani is again transiting

> Gemini,

>> again could produce some natural delay in marriage.

>>

>> And one of the many things that Saturn has taught me over the years

> is that

>> delays... may be a good thing!

>>

>> In other words, where Sani is aspecting or influencing is not, just

> a

>> concern or worry, but it's Nature protecting us.

>>

>> And though this may be hardest to understand in terms of love and

>> marriage...

>>

>> It's consequences can certainly be seen where individuals rush into

> marriage

>> and without proper preparation or education, have a very difficult

> time,

>> and too often, ending in divorce.

>>

>> #2.... Mars in your 7th....is also a point for concern.

>>

>> And whereas Saturn... may be about being more patient, since Sani's

> in the

>> first. So, being more patient within yourSelf... and also being

> more

>> patient with partnerships, since Sani aspects the 7th house....

>>

>> Mars in the 7th is about 'style' of marriage or partnership

> interactions.

>>

>> Mars is 'kuja dosha' in many places in the chart, ie. especially

> first,

>> fourth, seventh & 12th.... because it aspects directly the 7th

> House.

>>

>> Now...Mars there, represents... Mars 'imbalance' and in many cases,

> the

>> habit of using often times, too much Mars firmness or energy,

> especially in

>> a house and area of the life that is naturally ruled by Venus!

>>

>> Part of the formula for success, however, is to learn to diminish

> your

>> fieryness, especially as it's related to 'others'.... since the 7th

> house

>> represents also, 'all' others.... you can begin to practice with

> these,

>> 'all' others!

>>

>> You're right, though, this is a good time for you since Jupiter is

> indeed

>> aspecting the 7th House, but also because Jupiter's aspect into the

> 7th, is

>> an influence into it's own Home, Sagittarius...

>>

>> So....you're especially....getting the Wisdom....or relationships

> at this

>> time... And with balance and non-rushing....

>> perhaps...the fulfillment of desire will come during this time.

>>

>> But, spend this time preparing to get married.

>>

>> Think of the many things that you should do in preparation for the

>> opportunity to have a spouse.

>>

>> Are you ready for all that.....?

>>

>>

>> This is a very significant area of life, and I've not found any

> system of

>> Philosophy or Knowledge that so deeply understands all the

> complexities of

>> Marriage....like Jyotish....

>>

>>

>> The problem also is exacerbated by the fact that the old systems of

> natural

>> matchmaking have fallen in disrepair in every culture in the world,

> today.

>>

>> Even in India, where the advantages of Jyotish matchmaking have

> been; there

>> are many examples where either the matchmaking is not being used

> properly

>> or the indiviudals in our world today, are not willing to accept

> this

>> guidance.

>>

>> Hope some of this helps.....

>>

>>

>> Sincerely,

>>

>>

>>

>> Mark Kincaid

>>

>>

>>

>>

>> PS.... I also create a daily Jyotish Newsletter; that focus on the

> Transits

>> and other aspects of Jyotish. If any of you'd like to ,

> contact me

>> at: m.kincaid@m...

>>

>> The newsletter is free.

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

>>

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>> >"shaluuu2000" <pyarii@h...>

>> >

>> > How to time marriage

>> >Fri, Nov 28, 2003, 11:24 AM

>> >

>>

>> > The information Alwar Ji wrote was extremely informative

> concerning

>> > timing of marriage. I hope respected memebers will correct my

> novice

>> > attempt at predicting my marriage.

>> >

>> > Currently ju is aspecting my 7th, 9th, and 11th houses. On Jan 26,

>> > 3004 venus will be in my 9th houses aspected by jupiter. Also,

> venus

>> > will be aspecting jupiter. Jupiter will also be aspecting my 7th

>> > ruler from the moon (mars in Aries). Jupiter will aspecting my

> lagan

>> > ruler in the seventh house (mercury) this is also jupiter's own

> house

>> > sagittarius. I feel maybe not marriage, but maybe a prospect may

> come

>> > to light at this time. Jupiter will be aspecting ,y seventh only

>> > until it moves to virgo in less than year. I think marraige should

>> > materialize during this period, however, saturn and rahu are also

>> > aspecting my seventh house at this time. January 26th or March 5th

>> > were a few date I think maybe dates for marriage or prospects of

>> > marriage to materialize. I would appreciate anyone's insight into

>> > this matter.

>> >

>> > My DOB: If anyone is intersted to shed some light is January 23,

> 1975

>> > 2:39pm Salt Lake City-Utah MST.

>> >

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