Guest guest Posted October 16, 2003 Report Share Posted October 16, 2003 Dear members, with this discussion I wonder why everybody trying to analyze this. Right or wrong is always relative why we should decide that? Such issues are closely related to culture, time , person involve etc. If we think other way we already doing all this with people in other areas like profession. Market is what? isn't it influecing others? Why we think lot about our appeareance and look while facing interviews? isn't it influencing others? We are already tring to incluece people in almost all areas of our life. If all those is not wrong then why this? Whatever is result, person performing is responcible that is very much natural in any subject. regards, Tushar --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 wrote: > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Though there are some Vashikaran Mantras available > and > some love spells too. I do have a love spell that > one > can use on others. > > But there is a *sign of warning* too. These all > comes > under Tamsik (say bad) category and they have side > effect (negative) too. If wrongly intended or used > for > wrong purpose, it will backfire on you and thus > creating more problems and pains for you. > > I know this, because I did some occult studies in > past. But I strongly recommend not to use any of > these, due to thier tamsik nature. > > Sincere Regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > > Dear Surya jee, > > > > Any mantra to influence others is tamsic I guess, > > hence should not be practiced. However as a > > moderator I have no problem if such topics are > > discussed here. So you can go ahead. > > > > Without the person's permission you should not put > > the emails privately exchanged between you and he. > > > > No, I do not know the indications where the person > > is used in such matters. > > > > Namaste, > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > Mail tanvir > > Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > > Jyotish site > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > Jyotish discussion > > > > > > - > > surya vishnubhotla > > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:29 PM > > Re: Mantra to influence others > > > > > > hehe .. maybe I should put all the mails > exchanged > > between me and raj?? > > > > tanvir ji .. you take the call !! > > > > but a lot of how they work depends on the faith > > you > > place on the system rituals ... I know only the > > Hindu > > processes ... > > > > But I have in my course of learning seen a very > > very > > common set of processes in the way these things > > work > > in every religion or culture .... > > > > maybe we can discuss ... let's see ... I know .. > > but I > > have never used them ... but I have seen them > work > > in > > the past like magic in others lives !! > > > > Tanvir ji?? do you know of specific horoscope > > combinations where people become the objects of > > such > > processes or become the instruments to do such > > processes? > > > > --- Jose Rosa <master4114 wrote: > > > > > > I am very interested in this subject and > belive > > this > > > is the right place for it. > > > > > > --- surya vishnubhotla > > <surya_prakashv > > > wrote: > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > I am not sure if this forum is permissible > to > > this > > > > ... > > > > hence I am replying to the person in person > > ... > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Surya. > > > > > > > > --- rajkmr02 <rajkmr02 wrote: > > > > > We have a deal,should ignore > > parameter,kindly > > > > update > > > > > with the mantra, > > > > > Tq > > > > > > > > > > , > > surya > > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > It's not a very good idea to meddle with > > > mantras > > > > > for > > > > > > such purposes .. though there are many > ... > > > > > > firstly: > > > > > > a) We need a guru to tell it to us > > > > > > b) We need to know the rules that go > with > > the > > > > > mantra > > > > > > c) It is not ethical .. > > > > > > > > > > > > I can suggest mantras if you want to > > ignore > > > > these > > > > > > parameters .. let me know ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- rajkmr02 <rajkmr02@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > Does anyone in here have a mantra that > > can > > > be > > > > > > > recited and has the > > > > > > > power to influence others ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In witchcraft ,its called Love > > spells,does > > > any > > > > > > > mantra serve this > > > > > > > purpose? > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > removed] > > > > > > > ===== > http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ > > > > The New with improved product > search > > The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 17, 2003 Report Share Posted October 17, 2003 Dear Tushar, God is beyond right or wrong. Right and wrong as you mentioned are relative. However, anything that can potentially lead to human suffering should be avoided, and it is the duty of every one of us to remind each other of the same ... Will you support a serial killer saying that right and wrong are relative? I suppose not ... yet the killer himself may have his own justifications for his acts .... Similary, will the person you are trying to influence through mantras like the idea if he/she comes to know of it? I suppose not, is it ethical? to me no, is it right or wrong? I am nobody to judge ... but it's my duty to share what I know when I am telling someone some mantra or so on ! What we say is only in that sense, and rightly so it's for us to finally decide for ourselves ... Just sharing thoughts, no offence ... --- Tushar <tushar_9 wrote: > Dear members, > > with this discussion I wonder why everybody trying > to > analyze this. Right or wrong is always relative why > we > should decide that? Such issues are closely related > to > culture, time , person involve etc. If we think > other > way we already doing all this with people in other > areas like profession. Market is what? isn't it > influecing others? Why we think lot about our > appeareance and look while facing interviews? isn't > it > influencing others? We are already tring to incluece > people in almost all areas of our life. If all those > is not wrong then why this? Whatever is result, > person > performing is responcible that is very much natural > in > any subject. > > regards, > Tushar > > --- Neeraj Gupta <gupta_neeraj_2000 > wrote: > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > > > Though there are some Vashikaran Mantras available > > and > > some love spells too. I do have a love spell that > > one > > can use on others. > > > > But there is a *sign of warning* too. These all > > comes > > under Tamsik (say bad) category and they have side > > effect (negative) too. If wrongly intended or used > > for > > wrong purpose, it will backfire on you and thus > > creating more problems and pains for you. > > > > I know this, because I did some occult studies in > > past. But I strongly recommend not to use any of > > these, due to thier tamsik nature. > > > > Sincere Regards, > > > > Neeraj Gupta > > --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > > > Dear Surya jee, > > > > > > Any mantra to influence others is tamsic I > guess, > > > hence should not be practiced. However as a > > > moderator I have no problem if such topics are > > > discussed here. So you can go ahead. > > > > > > Without the person's permission you should not > put > > > the emails privately exchanged between you and > he. > > > > > > No, I do not know the indications where the > person > > > is used in such matters. > > > > > > Namaste, > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > > > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > > Mail tanvir > > > Personal site > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > > > Jyotish site > > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > Jyotish discussion > > > > > > > > > - > > > surya vishnubhotla > > > > > > Wednesday, October 15, 2003 7:29 PM > > > Re: Mantra to influence others > > > > > > > > > hehe .. maybe I should put all the mails > > exchanged > > > between me and raj?? > > > > > > tanvir ji .. you take the call !! > > > > > > but a lot of how they work depends on the > faith > > > you > > > place on the system rituals ... I know only > the > > > Hindu > > > processes ... > > > > > > But I have in my course of learning seen a > very > > > very > > > common set of processes in the way these > things > > > work > > > in every religion or culture .... > > > > > > maybe we can discuss ... let's see ... I know > .. > > > but I > > > have never used them ... but I have seen them > > work > > > in > > > the past like magic in others lives !! > > > > > > Tanvir ji?? do you know of specific horoscope > > > combinations where people become the objects > of > > > such > > > processes or become the instruments to do such > > > processes? > > > > > > --- Jose Rosa <master4114 wrote: > > > > > > > > I am very interested in this subject and > > belive > > > this > > > > is the right place for it. > > > > > > > > --- surya vishnubhotla > > > <surya_prakashv > > > > wrote: > > > > > Folks, > > > > > > > > > > I am not sure if this forum is permissible > > to > > > this > > > > > ... > > > > > hence I am replying to the person in > person > > > ... > > > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > Surya. > > > > > > > > > > --- rajkmr02 <rajkmr02 wrote: > > > > > > We have a deal,should ignore > > > parameter,kindly > > > > > update > > > > > > with the mantra, > > > > > > Tq > > > > > > > > > > > > , > > > surya > > > > > > vishnubhotla > > > > > > <surya_prakashv> wrote: > > > > > > > It's not a very good idea to meddle > with > > > > mantras > > > > > > for > > > > > > > such purposes .. though there are many > > ... > > > > > > > firstly: > > > > > > > a) We need a guru to tell it to us > > > > > > > b) We need to know the rules that go > > with > > > the > > > > > > mantra > > > > > > > c) It is not ethical .. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I can suggest mantras if you want to > > > ignore > > > > > these > > > > > > > parameters .. let me know ... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- rajkmr02 <rajkmr02@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Does anyone in here have a mantra > that > > > can > > > > be > > > > > > > > recited and has the > > > > > > > > power to influence others ? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In witchcraft ,its called Love > > > spells,does > > > > any > > > > > > > > mantra serve this > > > > > > > > purpose? > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > > > removed] > === message truncated === The New with improved product search Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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