Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 Tanvir: I agree with everythign you say about the nature of food and eating being judged from the second house. I my experience it is very reliable. For example a person with Mars there will like hot spicy food. Rahu there gives a real passion for modern "junk food" like chips, soda, pizza, etc. As for the arduha, your comments are really interesting. I must admit that I do not use it much but your concept that it shows the outer manifestation of life is an interesting one. Interestingly, in my own chart The janma, chandra, and arudha lagna are all the same! That makes some things simple! Regards, Ben - Tanvir Jyotish Remedies Cc: vedic astrology ; gjlist Monday, September 08, 2003 9:40 AM Arudhas Dear all, I was doing some personal researchs / experiments and for the first time I have started to understand the concept of Arudhas clearly. I previously was not able to understand the Arudhas clearly / didn't understand to apply them practically. But from my own experiments I have started to understand them from a first hand source of information - my own observations. I have seen that own chart / relatives charts help us understand the principles most clearly since we know the most detailed/clearly about these charts and this last understanding is not an exception, too. We generally know that the 2nd from lagna shows eating. But this needs explanation. I have found that the 2nd from lagna shows the "eating habit" / "how much the person eats" etc. while the 2nd from AL shows "what kind of food is eaten" - is it of good quality, or bad quality, or burger, pizza, or simple rice with eggs... etc.! For afflicted 2nd house the person might be irregular in eating, might miss his meal, or might eat so less. On the other hand for afflicted 2nd from AL the person will have to eat bad quality foods, poorly cooked foods etc. Like, good 2nd from asc + bad 2nd from AL = person eats not so good quality foods but he eats regularly and likes his foods and eats a lot - and is happy about eating. But when we see him eating 'not so good foods' we think that he is unhappy about eating AND THAT WHAT THE ARUDHA DOES !!!!!! I am specially thankful to the gurus to make this concept available to us, esp the Gurus use Arudhas extensively and thus encourage us, esp Guru P V R Narasimha Jee's writings about Arudha was GREAT and CLEAR. And he is too understandable and well explained like, "The house from the lagna shows what we can not see/catch where the Arudhas show what we catch, see MATERIALLY." I have exalted Saturn in 2nd from lagna and exalted mars in 2nd from AL - and I was doing mantras addressing them in a very systematic, planned manner/way and thus I came to this conclusion after about 5/6 days. When I launch these personal experiments I always make sure to watch every single incidents in my daily life very carefully and thus can understand many principles so clearly. From now when I have time I will try to apply more of the Arudhas into known charts and see the way they act in real lives... Thanks a lot dear Narasimha Jee. Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Mail tanvir Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro Jyotish discussion Sponsor ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2003 Report Share Posted September 8, 2003 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear List Members, Tanvir gave a good post on Arudhas. Here is some other information for members who get confused between Lagna and Arudha Lagna reference as Lagna - Shows reality, what is actually happening Reference as Arudha Lagna - How the person is percieved in the world, like in reality one may be coward, but world percieve him as a brave person or strong person. This is to be carefully understood as this changes with time and place e.g. if one is percieved to be highly intelligent in India in present time, he may be an Engineer from IIT, same in US can be a guy from MIT, and say 500 years back, there may be some other criteria to judge the Intelligence by the society in general. So this has to be applied very very carefully and ofcourse there is no substitute to experience. Reference as Bhava Arudhas - It shows how native thinks about world/society/other things. In reality the things may be going good (from lagna), or he is percieved to be happy (from society point of view, Arudha Lagna), but he may not feel happy (because of Bhava Arudha). So three aspects are there first reality, second perception about person, third how the person percieves the world. This is just a gist of Arudhas, Lagna and Bhava Arudhas. Request to senior members - Kindly correct me, If I am wrong in explaining the above. Kind regards, Neeraj Gupta --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > Dear all, > > I was doing some personal researchs / experiments > and for the first time I have started to understand > the concept of Arudhas clearly. I previously was not > able to understand the Arudhas clearly / didn't > understand to apply them practically. But from my > own experiments I have started to understand them > from a first hand source of information - my own > observations. I have seen that own chart / relatives > charts help us understand the principles most > clearly since we know the most detailed/clearly > about these charts and this last understanding is > not an exception, too. > > We generally know that the 2nd from lagna shows > eating. But this needs explanation. > > I have found that the 2nd from lagna shows the > "eating habit" / "how much the person eats" etc. > while the 2nd from AL shows "what kind of food is > eaten" - is it of good quality, or bad quality, or > burger, pizza, or simple rice with eggs... etc.! > > For afflicted 2nd house the person might be > irregular in eating, might miss his meal, or might > eat so less. > > On the other hand for afflicted 2nd from AL the > person will have to eat bad quality foods, poorly > cooked foods etc. > > Like, good 2nd from asc + bad 2nd from AL = person > eats not so good quality foods but he eats regularly > and likes his foods and eats a lot - and is happy > about eating. But when we see him eating 'not so > good foods' we think that he is unhappy about eating > AND THAT WHAT THE ARUDHA DOES !!!!!! > > I am specially thankful to the gurus to make this > concept available to us, esp the Gurus use Arudhas > extensively and thus encourage us, esp Guru P V R > Narasimha Jee's writings about Arudha was GREAT and > CLEAR. And he is too understandable and well > explained like, "The house from the lagna shows what > we can not see/catch where the Arudhas show what we > catch, see MATERIALLY." > > I have exalted Saturn in 2nd from lagna and exalted > mars in 2nd from AL - and I was doing mantras > addressing them in a very systematic, planned > manner/way and thus I came to this conclusion after > about 5/6 days. When I launch these personal > experiments I always make sure to watch every single > incidents in my daily life very carefully and thus > can understand many principles so clearly. > > From now when I have time I will try to apply more > of the Arudhas into known charts and see the way > they act in real lives... > > Thanks a lot dear Narasimha Jee. > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > Mail tanvir > Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > Jyotish discussion > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2003 Report Share Posted September 9, 2003 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear List, Just to share, I have Rahu in Second from Lagna and I enjoy different types of food say junk food Pizzas, Patties, Ice-Creams etc, but not passionate about them. But still I enjoy having these foods, and love other regular indian foods too. Basically I like to try dishes of different state. Mostly I eat regular home food (simple rice, daal, chapati etc). Yes placement of Rahu in Second from Lagna implies that I sometimes like eating Junk food. Second from AL is empty, but ruled by saturn. Doesn't A2 (Arudha Pada of Second house), should also be taken into account, while dealing with matter related to taste. Like, my A2 is placed in 11th house (Moon and Jupiter placed), so I don't even consume tea, and mostly sattvic food (milk and milk products). Though people percieve, that I enjoy and take simple food (perception of others should be seen from A2). I guess A2 should also be considered. Kind regards, Neeraj Gupta --- Ben Collins <bencollins wrote: > Tanvir: > > I agree with everythign you say about the nature of > food and eating being judged from the second house. > I my experience it is very reliable. For example a > person with Mars there will like hot spicy food. > Rahu there gives a real passion for modern "junk > food" like chips, soda, pizza, etc. > > As for the arduha, your comments are really > interesting. I must admit that I do not use it much > but your concept that it shows the outer > manifestation of life is an interesting one. > Interestingly, in my own chart The janma, chandra, > and arudha lagna are all the same! That makes some > things simple! > > Regards, > Ben > > > - > Tanvir > Jyotish Remedies > Cc: vedic astrology ; > gjlist > Monday, September 08, 2003 9:40 AM > Arudhas > > > Dear all, > > I was doing some personal researchs / experiments > and for the first time I have started to understand > the concept of Arudhas clearly. I previously was not > able to understand the Arudhas clearly / didn't > understand to apply them practically. But from my > own experiments I have started to understand them > from a first hand source of information - my own > observations. I have seen that own chart / relatives > charts help us understand the principles most > clearly since we know the most detailed/clearly > about these charts and this last understanding is > not an exception, too. > > We generally know that the 2nd from lagna shows > eating. But this needs explanation. > > I have found that the 2nd from lagna shows the > "eating habit" / "how much the person eats" etc. > while the 2nd from AL shows "what kind of food is > eaten" - is it of good quality, or bad quality, or > burger, pizza, or simple rice with eggs... etc.! > > For afflicted 2nd house the person might be > irregular in eating, might miss his meal, or might > eat so less. > > On the other hand for afflicted 2nd from AL the > person will have to eat bad quality foods, poorly > cooked foods etc. > > Like, good 2nd from asc + bad 2nd from AL = person > eats not so good quality foods but he eats regularly > and likes his foods and eats a lot - and is happy > about eating. But when we see him eating 'not so > good foods' we think that he is unhappy about eating > AND THAT WHAT THE ARUDHA DOES !!!!!! > > I am specially thankful to the gurus to make this > concept available to us, esp the Gurus use Arudhas > extensively and thus encourage us, esp Guru P V R > Narasimha Jee's writings about Arudha was GREAT and > CLEAR. And he is too understandable and well > explained like, "The house from the lagna shows what > we can not see/catch where the Arudhas show what we > catch, see MATERIALLY." > > I have exalted Saturn in 2nd from lagna and > exalted mars in 2nd from AL - and I was doing > mantras addressing them in a very systematic, > planned manner/way and thus I came to this > conclusion after about 5/6 days. When I launch these > personal experiments I always make sure to watch > every single incidents in my daily life very > carefully and thus can understand many principles so > clearly. > > From now when I have time I will try to apply more > of the Arudhas into known charts and see the way > they act in real lives... > > Thanks a lot dear Narasimha Jee. > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > Mail tanvir > Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > Jyotish site > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > Jyotish discussion > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > Sponsor > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL > !~ > > > Terms of Service. > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2003 Report Share Posted September 10, 2003 Dear Tanvir, Can u please elaborate about Arudha lagnam,What is the difference between Janma Lagna & Arudha Lagnam any web site about this. If the Sani is posted in 6th house in Arudha lagna.Is native always brave & fights. Please guide. Thanks & best regards Srinivas rao Ben Collins Monday, September 08, 2003 23:59 PM Re: Arudhas Tanvir: I agree with everythign you say about the nature of food and eating being judged from the second house. I my experience it is very reliable. For example a person with Mars there will like hot spicy food. Rahu there gives a real passion for modern "junk food" like chips, soda, pizza, etc. As for the arduha, your comments are really interesting. I must admit that I do not use it much but your concept that it shows the outer manifestation of life is an interesting one. Interestingly, in my own chart The janma, chandra, and arudha lagna are all the same! That makes some things simple! Regards, Ben - Tanvir Jyotish Remedies Cc: vedic astrology ; gjlist Monday, September 08, 2003 9:40 AM Arudhas Dear all, I was doing some personal researchs / experiments and for the first time I have started to understand the concept of Arudhas clearly. I previously was not able to understand the Arudhas clearly / didn't understand to apply them practically. But from my own experiments I have started to understand them from a first hand source of information - my own observations. I have seen that own chart / relatives charts help us understand the principles most clearly since we know the most detailed/clearly about these charts and this last understanding is not an exception, too. We generally know that the 2nd from lagna shows eating. But this needs explanation. I have found that the 2nd from lagna shows the "eating habit" / "how much the person eats" etc. while the 2nd from AL shows "what kind of food is eaten" - is it of good quality, or bad quality, or burger, pizza, or simple rice with eggs... etc.! For afflicted 2nd house the person might be irregular in eating, might miss his meal, or might eat so less. On the other hand for afflicted 2nd from AL the person will have to eat bad quality foods, poorly cooked foods etc. Like, good 2nd from asc + bad 2nd from AL = person eats not so good quality foods but he eats regularly and likes his foods and eats a lot - and is happy about eating. But when we see him eating 'not so good foods' we think that he is unhappy about eating AND THAT WHAT THE ARUDHA DOES !!!!!! I am specially thankful to the gurus to make this concept available to us, esp the Gurus use Arudhas extensively and thus encourage us, esp Guru P V R Narasimha Jee's writings about Arudha was GREAT and CLEAR. And he is too understandable and well explained like, "The house from the lagna shows what we can not see/catch where the Arudhas show what we catch, see MATERIALLY." I have exalted Saturn in 2nd from lagna and exalted mars in 2nd from AL - and I was doing mantras addressing them in a very systematic, planned manner/way and thus I came to this conclusion after about 5/6 days. When I launch these personal experiments I always make sure to watch every single incidents in my daily life very carefully and thus can understand many principles so clearly. From now when I have time I will try to apply more of the Arudhas into known charts and see the way they act in real lives... Thanks a lot dear Narasimha Jee. Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Mail tanvir Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro Jyotish discussion Sponsor ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Sponsor ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 11, 2003 Report Share Posted September 11, 2003 1. Actually the fact that you 'Sometimes' eat junk foods is totally normal (Or minimum) scale for these days and no notable effect. If it was in 'effect' then you would be eating junk foods a lot (though it's 2nd from lagna, but still it's 'experience'.) 2. 2nd lord in 8th might sometimes denote toxicity or mild food poisoning. Just a though. Did you have any such mild food poisoning in Merc MD or in other Ke periods...? 3. Your Rahu in the 2nd is aspected by Ju and Mo and Ju gives here traditional foods and moon might guess easy digestable foods or foods from more natural resources. Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Mail tanvir Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro Jyotish discussion - Neeraj Gupta Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:07 PM Re: Arudhas ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear List, Just to share, I have Rahu in Second from Lagna and I enjoy different types of food say junk food Pizzas, Patties, Ice-Creams etc, but not passionate about them. But still I enjoy having these foods, and love other regular indian foods too. Basically I like to try dishes of different state. Mostly I eat regular home food (simple rice, daal, chapati etc). Yes placement of Rahu in Second from Lagna implies that I sometimes like eating Junk food. Second from AL is empty, but ruled by saturn. Doesn't A2 (Arudha Pada of Second house), should also be taken into account, while dealing with matter related to taste. Like, my A2 is placed in 11th house (Moon and Jupiter placed), so I don't even consume tea, and mostly sattvic food (milk and milk products). Though people percieve, that I enjoy and take simple food (perception of others should be seen from A2). I guess A2 should also be considered. Kind regards, Neeraj Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Tanvir, Well Me MD hasn't started, but never had food poisoning problem till now and touchwood hope it will go smoothly in future too.. Thanks for explaining. regards, Neeraj Gupta --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > 1. Actually the fact that you 'Sometimes' eat junk > foods is totally normal (Or minimum) scale for these > days and no notable effect. If it was in 'effect' > then you would be eating junk foods a lot (though > it's 2nd from lagna, but still it's 'experience'.) > > 2. 2nd lord in 8th might sometimes denote toxicity > or mild food poisoning. Just a though. Did you have > any such mild food poisoning in Merc MD or in other > Ke periods...? > > 3. Your Rahu in the 2nd is aspected by Ju and Mo and > Ju gives here traditional foods and moon might guess > easy digestable foods or foods from more natural > resources. > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > Mail tanvir > Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > Jyotish discussion > > > - > Neeraj Gupta > > Tuesday, September 09, 2003 2:07 PM > Re: Arudhas > > > ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ > > Dear List, > > Just to share, I have Rahu in Second from Lagna > and I > enjoy different types of food say junk food > Pizzas, > Patties, Ice-Creams etc, but not passionate about > them. But still I enjoy having these foods, and > love > other regular indian foods too. Basically I like > to > try dishes of different state. Mostly I eat > regular > home food (simple rice, daal, chapati etc). Yes > placement of Rahu in Second from Lagna implies > that I > sometimes like eating Junk food. > > Second from AL is empty, but ruled by saturn. > Doesn't > A2 (Arudha Pada of Second house), should also be > taken > into account, while dealing with matter related to > taste. > > Like, my A2 is placed in 11th house (Moon and > Jupiter > placed), so I don't even consume tea, and mostly > sattvic food (milk and milk products). Though > people > percieve, that I enjoy and take simple food > (perception of others should be seen from A2). > > I guess A2 should also be considered. > > Kind regards, > > Neeraj Gupta > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 It might come as a way as mild indigestion [though indigestion is ruled by 6th] or eating some junk food and being uncomfortable etc :-) Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Mail tanvir Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro Jyotish discussion - Neeraj Gupta Friday, September 12, 2003 12:46 PM Re: Arudhas ~ Om Namah Shivaya ~ Dear Tanvir, Well Me MD hasn't started, but never had food poisoning problem till now and touchwood hope it will go smoothly in future too.. Thanks for explaining. regards, Neeraj Gupta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 12, 2003 Report Share Posted September 12, 2003 Namaste. Arudha rules 'images' or material things related to the particular house. Generally it is the no. of house owner as no. of house the house owner is from the house. Example - your asc is aries while its lord mars is in leo, 5th from asc. then count 5th from mars, ie sagittarius, it will be the arudha for your asc. Same way about other bhavas, but there are some exceptions. To know more about them, please read Brihat Parasara Hora Sastra, if you dont have a copy download it from the 'files' section of this list. You can also refer to http://www..org this will be an excellent resources to know these advanced stuff. Regards, Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury Mail tanvir Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro Jyotish discussion - Srinivas Rao Wednesday, September 10, 2003 12:18 PM Re: Arudhas Dear Tanvir, Can u please elaborate about Arudha lagnam,What is the difference between Janma Lagna & Arudha Lagnam any web site about this. If the Sani is posted in 6th house in Arudha lagna.Is native always brave & fights. Please guide. Thanks & best regards Srinivas rao Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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