Article - Kuja Dosha

September 2, 2003

Dear all,

Since I am unable to write right now, I wanted to send my thoughts on Kuja Dosha

which I wrote about a month back. It might be an interesting material to read

and talk about.

I might, very naturally, correct my understanding about Kuja Dosha later, as per

my experience and knowledge grows etc.

Regards,

Tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir

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The Kuja Dosha

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We are already familiar that the word 'Kuja' means the planets Mars [Mangala

Graha]. So the term, 'Kuja Dosha' would mean a fault or trouble created by the

planet Mars. Though Mars can create many types of problems in a chart, by it's

lordship and placement, but Kuja Dosha actually means the problem created by

Mars in respect of marital life. For the present time social structure, it

creates problems in relationship as well.

Kuja Dosha is also called 'Manglik', 'Manglik Dosha', 'Mangal Dosha', 'Bhauma

Dosha' etc.

Kuja Dosha is formed when Mars sits in specific houses in the chart. So he

influences some particular houses by his placement and aspect. There are

specific rules to check for Kuja Dosha while there are other factors which break

or weaken this. Kuja Dosha is said to kill the spouse, but actually it does not

happen this way always. Depending on the strength of the Dosha, it creates

different scale or kind of problems accordingly.

How the Dosha occurs

--------------------

It is generally said that in a chart [irrespective to male or female native]

When Mars is found in any of the houses 1, 4, 7, 8, 12 - Kuja Dosha forms. Some

South Indian astrologers also take the 2nd house in adition - while most do not

agree to this. [Mars in second can indicate bold or bitter speech, or using

slang words etc.]

Mars is a planet of battle, war and fight. He is tamasic in nature and belongs

to the caste of warriors [Kshatriya]. He in general is fond of fights, battles

and is given to anger. That is why, very naturally, when he takes over the

marital matters, he likes to put quarrel, fight and 'battle' in marriage, which

disturbs marital happiness. Mars is also he planet of over sex drive, too much

boldness, and too fierce in nature - all of them are against a peaceful

marriage.

The actual reason behind why these houses produce Kuja Dosha should be

understood logically. That is why I am giving house by house explanation -

Mars in the 1st house - Mars is a planet of boldness, and kind of dictator in

nature. That is why Mars in ascendant can make a person too bold, aggresive, or

too dominating. He might want to be the all in all in his family, while not

paying a good attention to what others [Or his spouse] is saying. He will be

easily involved in fights and will express himself rather directly. He might be

also of short temper. This causes the major problem.

Mars will also aspect the houses 4 (Happiness, family life), 7 (Spouse, married

life) and 8 (Marital tie) and thus create problem in all these areas with ease.

He will quickly create fights on unimportant issues.

Mars in the 4th house - The planet of battle is in the house of family life, so

battle in family! Mars deprives the native from domestic harmony, there are

misunderstandings among the family members. Mars will cast his 4th aspect on the

7th house of spouse and marital life. In 4th house Mars loses his strength for

direction and creates more and more trouble in family life.

Mars in the 7th house - There will be clash and unhappiness in married life and

this is perhaps the worst of Kuja Doshas - a direct hit. Mars is a planet of

abuse and violation and Mars being in 7th house very possibly can give violation

in married life. In a female chart it might give physical or excessive mental

torture from the husband. There will be also fight for the dominating power, and

there might be lack of harmony in the sexual issues. The sexual and emotional

needs of the partners might not match or might have a great difference. Mars

might give over sexual desire / sickly sexual desire to the native or to his

spouse and create mess in marital life for this issue. It might give a short

tempered wife.

Mars in the 8th house - The 8th house rules marital tie, from the 8th house we

see the possibility of death of the spouse. Mars is the planet of accident,

operation, assult from weapons and bleeding etc. - all of the things are rules

by 8th house. So being in the 8th house, Mars will be very eager to develop

these tendencies. He might cause death of spouse, possibly through accident,

operation or any other mishaps. Thus it can indicate an early death of the

spouse. 8th house is also a house of hidden issues / immoral acts and Mars here

can make the native / spouse be involved in hidden and sinful acts. When they

come forward, storm blows in married life.

Mars in the 12th house - 12th house rules all kinds of losses and also the bed

pleasure, i.e. sexual enjoyment. Mars here can give a native sickly desires, or

illegal unions with other people. Again, Mars will aspect the 7th house with

it's 8th aspect.

Counters of this Dosha

----------------------

There is no need to be really terrified if Mars is found in the houses

1/4/7/8/12. There are many facts that can counter or even nullify the Dosha. The

most popular way to nullify this Dosha is to find a partner or spouse who has

the same Dosha. It is believed that if both the partners have this Dosha, then

the Dosha is nullified. Experience shows that this is true.

However, there are certain facts in the chart itself that nullify the Dosha.

# Lordship is a very important fact here to consider. For the natives Cancer and

Leo, Mars is very benefic being a Yoga Karaka. For natives Aries and Scorpio,

for being the ascendant lord he will do good, on the other hand for ruling a

dusthana, he will not be purely benefic. For a Pisces native, he becomes the 9th

lord as well as a mild killer (Maraka). However, Mars will undoubtedly produce

strong Kuja Doshas to the ascendants he is a malefic for. (Virgo for an

example.)

# According to Dr. B. V. Raman, Kuja Dosha nullifies in the following conditions

-

a. If Mars is in 2nd house in any of the signs of Mercury, i.e., Gemini or

Virgo.

b. If Mars is in 4th house in own sign, i.e., Aries or Scorpio.

c. If Mars is in 7th house in exaltation or debilitation, i.e., Capricorn or

Cancer.

d. If Mars is in 8th house in any of the signs of Jupiter, i.e., Sagittarius or

Pisces.

e. If Mars is in 12th house in any of the signs of Venus, i.e., Taurus or Libra.

f. If Mars is in any house in Aquarius or Leo.

However, some hold the opinion that these conditions though weaken the Dosha,

but does not completely nullify. I feel that it might be correct.

# The conjunction/aspect of other planets are very important facts. Jupiter is

the most benefic planet in nature and will try to protect the native to it's

best. A strong Jupiter can save the native from many of the havocs. Jupiter

rules Dharma that is why he can propitiate Mars' anger and aggresiveness to a

great extent. That is why a Jupiter (Esp. if strong) joining or aspecting Mars

will always fight against this Dosha. A benefic present with Mars in ascendant

does not allow Mars to give the harsh nature too much, same applies to their

Drishties (aspects) and also about other houses (4/7/8/12) as well.

The presence of Jupiter and/or Venus in the ascendant will work to protect from

this Dosha. Moon joining Mars is also said to protect the native.

# Mars becomes matured at the age of 28 and that is why some suggest to wait

till 28 years and then marry. This Dosha is said to be nullified after the age

of 28. However, some do not agree to this point and suggest that this Dosha will

remain active even after 28th year of the native, and will create problems in

the periods of Mars, especially. This seem to be more logical to accept.

# Some astrologers also hold the opinion that Mars produces no Dosha in own sign

or in exaltation sign. On the other hand some do not agree to this since being

in own sign or in exaltation sign does not really make any difference in the

nature but makes difference only in strength. I, personally, hold the later

view.

Conclusion

----------

It has to be remembered that it is not only Mars that can create problem in

married life, but there are a lot other factors which can disturb marital

happiness. That is why it will never be good to accuse a so called Kuja Dosha

for marital disturbance. Other factors can greatly modify this Dosha both

positively or negatively. While malefic join or aspect Mars, or hits the same

houses hit by Mars, it surely worsens the condition. On the other hand benefics

like Jupiter, Venus or Putra Adhipati / Dharma Adhipati (Lords of 5th and 9th

houses) try to protect the things as per their strength. Praying to Lord

Hanumana with Hanumana Chalisa and other Hanumana mantras protects the native

from the evil of planet Mars. Angaraka Astottara Shata Namavali (The 108 names

of Mars) can also be suggested.

Tanvir Chowdhury

Aug, 2003

tanvir

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September 3, 2003

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

Dear Tanvir,

It was an EXCELLENT post, all points are mentioned

very clearly without any confusion. I liked it very

much.

regards,

Neeraj Gupta

--- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> Dear all,

>

> Since I am unable to write right now, I wanted to

> send my thoughts on Kuja Dosha which I wrote about a

> month back. It might be an interesting material to

> read and talk about.

>

> I might, very naturally, correct my understanding

> about Kuja Dosha later, as per my experience and

> knowledge grows etc.

>

> Regards,

> Tanvir

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

> Mail tanvir

> Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> Jyotish site http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> Jyotish discussion

>

> > The Kuja Dosha

> --------------

>

> We are already familiar that the word 'Kuja' means

> the planets Mars [Mangala Graha]. So the term, 'Kuja

> Dosha' would mean a fault or trouble created by the

> planet Mars. Though Mars can create many types of

> problems in a chart, by it's lordship and placement,

> but Kuja Dosha actually means the problem created by

> Mars in respect of marital life. For the present

> time social structure, it creates problems in

> relationship as well.

>

> Kuja Dosha is also called 'Manglik', 'Manglik

> Dosha', 'Mangal Dosha', 'Bhauma Dosha' etc.

>

> Kuja Dosha is formed when Mars sits in specific

> houses in the chart. So he influences some

> particular houses by his placement and aspect. There

> are specific rules to check for Kuja Dosha while

> there are other factors which break or weaken this.

> Kuja Dosha is said to kill the spouse, but actually

> it does not happen this way always. Depending on the

> strength of the Dosha, it creates different scale or

> kind of problems accordingly.

>

> How the Dosha occurs

> --------------------

>

> It is generally said that in a chart [irrespective

> to male or female native] When Mars is found in any

> of the houses 1, 4, 7, 8, 12 - Kuja Dosha forms.

> Some South Indian astrologers also take the 2nd

> house in adition - while most do not agree to this.

> [Mars in second can indicate bold or bitter speech,

> or using slang words etc.]

>

> Mars is a planet of battle, war and fight. He is

> tamasic in nature and belongs to the caste of

> warriors [Kshatriya]. He in general is fond of

> fights, battles and is given to anger. That is why,

> very naturally, when he takes over the marital

> matters, he likes to put quarrel, fight and 'battle'

> in marriage, which disturbs marital happiness. Mars

> is also he planet of over sex drive, too much

> boldness, and too fierce in nature - all of them are

> against a peaceful marriage.

>

> The actual reason behind why these houses produce

> Kuja Dosha should be understood logically. That is

> why I am giving house by house explanation -

>

> Mars in the 1st house - Mars is a planet of

> boldness, and kind of dictator in nature. That is

> why Mars in ascendant can make a person too bold,

> aggresive, or too dominating. He might want to be

> the all in all in his family, while not paying a

> good attention to what others [Or his spouse] is

> saying. He will be easily involved in fights and

> will express himself rather directly. He might be

> also of short temper. This causes the major problem.

>

> Mars will also aspect the houses 4 (Happiness,

> family life), 7 (Spouse, married life) and 8

> (Marital tie) and thus create problem in all these

> areas with ease. He will quickly create fights on

> unimportant issues.

>

> Mars in the 4th house - The planet of battle is in

> the house of family life, so battle in family! Mars

> deprives the native from domestic harmony, there are

> misunderstandings among the family members. Mars

> will cast his 4th aspect on the 7th house of spouse

> and marital life. In 4th house Mars loses his

> strength for direction and creates more and more

> trouble in family life.

>

> Mars in the 7th house - There will be clash and

> unhappiness in married life and this is perhaps the

> worst of Kuja Doshas - a direct hit. Mars is a

> planet of abuse and violation and Mars being in 7th

> house very possibly can give violation in married

> life. In a female chart it might give physical or

> excessive mental torture from the husband. There

> will be also fight for the dominating power, and

> there might be lack of harmony in the sexual issues.

> The sexual and emotional needs of the partners might

> not match or might have a great difference. Mars

> might give over sexual desire / sickly sexual desire

> to the native or to his spouse and create mess in

> marital life for this issue. It might give a short

> tempered wife.

>

> Mars in the 8th house - The 8th house rules marital

> tie, from the 8th house we see the possibility of

> death of the spouse. Mars is the planet of accident,

> operation, assult from weapons and bleeding etc. -

> all of the things are rules by 8th house. So being

> in the 8th house, Mars will be very eager to develop

> these tendencies. He might cause death of spouse,

> possibly through accident, operation or any other

> mishaps. Thus it can indicate an early death of the

> spouse. 8th house is also a house of hidden issues /

> immoral acts and Mars here can make the native /

> spouse be involved in hidden and sinful acts. When

> they come forward, storm blows in married life.

>

> Mars in the 12th house - 12th house rules all kinds

> of losses and also the bed pleasure, i.e. sexual

> enjoyment. Mars here can give a native sickly

> desires, or illegal unions with other people. Again,

> Mars will aspect the 7th house with it's 8th aspect.

>

> Counters of this Dosha

> ----------------------

>

> There is no need to be really terrified if Mars is

> found in the houses 1/4/7/8/12. There are many facts

> that can counter or even nullify the Dosha. The most

> popular way to nullify this Dosha is to find a

> partner or spouse who has the same Dosha. It is

> believed that if both the partners have this Dosha,

> then the Dosha is nullified. Experience shows that

> this is true.

>

> However, there are certain facts in the chart itself

> that nullify the Dosha.

>

> # Lordship is a very important fact here to

> consider. For the natives Cancer and Leo, Mars is

> very benefic being a Yoga Karaka. For natives Aries

> and Scorpio, for being the ascendant lord he will do

> good, on the other hand for ruling a dusthana, he

> will not be purely benefic. For a Pisces native, he

> becomes the 9th lord as well as a mild killer

> (Maraka). However, Mars will undoubtedly produce

> strong Kuja Doshas to the ascendants he is a malefic

> for. (Virgo for an example.)

>

> # According to Dr. B. V. Raman, Kuja Dosha nullifies

> in the following conditions -

>

> a. If Mars is in 2nd house in any of the signs of

> Mercury, i.e., Gemini or Virgo.

> b. If Mars is in 4th house in own sign, i.e., Aries

> or Scorpio.

> c. If Mars is in 7th house in exaltation or

> debilitation, i.e., Capricorn or Cancer.

> d. If Mars is in 8th house in any of the signs of

> Jupiter, i.e., Sagittarius or Pisces.

> e. If Mars is in 12th house in any of the signs of

> Venus, i.e., Taurus or Libra.

> f. If Mars is in any house in Aquarius or Leo.

>

> However, some hold the opinion that these conditions

> though weaken the Dosha, but does not completely

> nullify. I feel that it might be correct.

>

> # The conjunction/aspect of other planets are very

> important facts. Jupiter is the most benefic planet

> in nature and will try to protect the native to it's

> best. A strong Jupiter can save the native from many

> of the havocs. Jupiter rules Dharma that is why he

> can propitiate Mars' anger and aggresiveness to a

> great extent. That is why a Jupiter (Esp. if strong)

> joining or aspecting Mars will always fight against

> this Dosha. A benefic present with Mars in ascendant

> does not allow Mars to give the harsh nature too

> much, same applies to their Drishties (aspects) and

> also about other houses (4/7/8/12) as well.

>

> The presence of Jupiter and/or Venus in the

> ascendant will work to protect from this Dosha. Moon

> joining Mars is also said to protect the native.

>

> # Mars becomes matured at the age of 28 and that is

> why some suggest to wait till 28 years and then

> marry. This Dosha is said to be nullified after the

> age of 28. However, some do not agree to this point

> and suggest that this Dosha will remain active even

> after 28th year of the native, and will create

> problems in the periods of Mars, especially. This

> seem to be more logical to accept.

>

> # Some astrologers also hold the opinion that Mars

> produces no Dosha in own sign or in exaltation sign.

> On the other hand some do not agree to this since

> being in own sign or in exaltation sign does not

> really make any difference in the nature but makes

> difference only in strength. I, personally, hold the

> later view.

>

> Conclusion

> ----------

>

> It has to be remembered that it is not only Mars

> that can create problem in married life, but there

> are a lot other factors which can disturb marital

> happiness. That is why it will never be good to

> accuse a so called Kuja Dosha for marital

> disturbance. Other factors can greatly modify this

> Dosha

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September 3, 2003

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

Dear Tanvir and List Members,

It was mentioned that Similar Kuja Dosh in marriages

gets nullified. Does it mean that the placement of

mars in both the charts (of bride and groom) should be

in same house or in any house representing Kuja Dosh.

For e.g. Say in one's chart, mars is in 7th house and

in another chart mars is in 1st house. Does it stand

for cancellation or in both charts for marriage, mars

should be either in 7th or 1st houses.

Kindly clarify.

Kind regards,

Neeraj Gupta

--- Tushar <tushar_9 wrote:

> Dear Tanvir,

>

> This one is really nice article and very much useful

> for students like me. Kunj Dosha is really big

> misunderstanding in general people. It’s my personal

> experience that many people suffer in matrimonial

> issue because of Kunj Dosha. People do not consult

> good astrologer and take decisions based on basic

> knowledge and many people are rejected wrongly due

> to

> wrong interpretation of Kunj Dosha. In such scenario

> people really need to understand this properly.

>

> Analysis you have given is off course logical and

> almost all doubt and questions are covered in your

> article regarding Kunj Dosha. I would like to share

> some thoughts on this.

>

> (1)

> In general people beliefs are like that Kunj Dosha

> creates danger to life of person’s spouse. I think

> mostly this is not true; Mars alone does not do

> this.

> Danger of Kunj Dosha is not so high. Mostly it gives

> more than one partner. Interpretation can be like

> more

> than one marriage or painful exit of first partner

> and

> re-establishment with second partner etc.

>

> (2)

> Persons with pure Kunj Dosha are really very much

> different from average person and that creates

> mismatch pairs in terms of temperament, life style,

> energy level, activeness etc. For example Mars in

> Libra (especially in first house) makes person

> intellectual and logical. Their energy is not

> reflected in action but it is reflected in their

> thinking level. It is normally in very wide area and

> beyond normal level. They are naturally attracted

> towards systems at the level of society,

> organizations

> and any big group where lots of people are involved

> but surprisingly they ignore personal and family

> issues or they think such issues are below their

> level, for example Mahatma Gandhi. In such situation

> their spouses feel dissatisfied. When person having

> Kunj Dosha, faces relationship problem, reason are

> really very interesting and strange. I think it is

> related with in which sign Mars is placed. In short

> I

> want to convey that it’s not true that persons with

> Kunj Dosha are always dominating, attacking, violent

> or worrier kind of people and they are always

> responsible for failure of relationship.

>

> (3)

> Kunj Dosha if not in exceptions becomes more intense

> in fire sign and its intensity becomes low

> considerably in water sign.

>

> (4)

> In addition to Asc. sign, Kunj Dosha is seen from

> Moon

> sign and interestingly from Venus sign also. (Same

> positions from Moon and Venus). Seriousness is in

> descending order of Ascendant, Moon and Venus

>

> (5)

> In some area Saturn is matched as nullifier of Mars

> in

> case of Kunj Dosha, which is not right solution I

> think. Both planets have highly different

> characteristics, I wonder how Saturn can balance

> this

> against Mars.

>

> (6)

> Jupiter is really great protector and many a time it

> saves person from loses particularly in this

> regards.

> But sometime it creates different kind of problems.

> When person having strong Kunj Dosha (or any another

> planetary position that is creating problem in

> relationship) and there is no other solution except

> separation, at that time Jupiter does not allow

> separation/divorce and puts person in strange

> condition where he can not enjoy liberty, can not

> set

> in other relationship and can not enjoy existing

> relationship satisfactory. Personally I considered

> this as problem.

>

> But I wonder how Kunj Dosha nullify when both has

> this

> Dosh. Why Dosh does not get doubled? If we put two

> warriors under one roof then how then can live

> happily? If you can explain this it will be great

> help.

>

> Having similar Dosh in chart does not mean both are

> compatible with each other. Can we say like that? If

> you can explain this theory then it will be great

> help.

>

> Please add in your conclusion that decision

> regarding

> matrimonial issues should not be taken based on only

> Kunj Dosha. There are lots other factors to

> consider.

>

> Regards,

>

> Tushar

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September 3, 2003

Thanks, though I can correct my views later if I feel necessary...

Namaste,

Tanvir

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Which is mine, is forever mine.

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Neeraj Gupta

Wednesday, September 03, 2003 1:06 PM

Re: Article - Kuja Dosha

~ Om Namah Shivaya ~

Dear Tanvir,

It was an EXCELLENT post, all points are mentioned

very clearly without any confusion. I liked it very

much.

regards,

Neeraj Gupta

September 3, 2003

Dear Group,

With regards to Kuja Dosha nullifying at the age of 28 when mars 'ripens'...

It seems common sense that as we mature into our late 20's and early 30's we

become somewhat less aggressive and active, in general. The cells of our bodies,

unless stimulated otherwise, start to procreate less than they die, ie catabolic

increases over anabolic activity. Also (All this in a general way) we as a

species by this time of life may have children, a involved career, etc...

avenues for using up our Mars "active-Force"... I know as I have turned 29 and

have a 10 month old son, that I simply have less energy to get mad at things in

the first place. We hopefully also gain some practical wisdom from our

experiences as we get older, which might lead us to "letting go" of fights and

battles before they start or escalate...for the sake of our other priorities.

This is an example of Kala Vichara, knowledge of human development and

'ripening'.

This does not in any way mean that there are not individuals whose Mars energy

doesnt 'ripen' with maturity, or their aggressiveness doesn't stay the same or

even increase!!!

And it also makes sense that a Mars Dasha could escalate that current of energy

in one's life, even after a possible "maturing" prior in life.

I Believe we should always look at these combinations/Yogas and realize that we

have a spectrum by which they ALL PLAY OUT! The general way that things plays

out is similar to how archetypes and to some degree stereotypes play out...and

at the same time these stereotypes are broken and meaningless. There is an area

in which the Yogas or placements create the most similarities, and then there

are the times they STILL PLAY OUT, but in modified ways.

Thanks,

Ashwin

Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

Dear all,

Since I am unable to write right now, I wanted to send my thoughts on Kuja Dosha

which I wrote about a month back. It might be an interesting material to read

and talk about.

I might, very naturally, correct my understanding about Kuja Dosha later, as per

my experience and knowledge grows etc.

Regards,

Tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.

Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir Chowdhury

Mail tanvir

Personal site http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

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