Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 Hi All, I am new to this group and would like clarification on some points that are unclear to me. Rasi: Lagna(27.10)-Capricorn; Rahu(3.30)-Aquaries; Saturn(24.14)®- Aries; Ketu(3.30)-Leo; Venus®(16.18),Mars(2.0),Jupiter(27.40)- Libra; Sun(14.40)-Scorpio; Moon(2.09),Mercury(1.40)-Saggitaurus. Navamsa:Lagna-Virgo; Mars-Libra; Sun,Rahu,Saturn®-Scorpio; Venus ®-Aquarius; Moon,Mercury-Aries; Ketu-Taurus; Jupiter-Gemini. a. In the above chart, what results will be produced in the Moon dasa? b. Is there a Rajayoga due to Moon-Mercury combination(they are in 11th bhava)? c. Will there be foreign travels during this dasa? d. Will the native succeed in business? e. Are there any combinations for spirituality in the chart? Best Regards, Ananth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 hello, this is my very quick opinion, learned members please correct me if needed. a. as per what i seen always, maha dasa (MD) does not make anything happen directly but helps other things happen, and creates a boundary out of what the anter dashas (AD) can not go. MD, AD, PD all have their own importance and while we can not neglect any of them, but the ultimate importance goes to AD most of the times. in general, moon MD will create the boundary of events like romance, affair and shared dealings and trades for it's 7H lordship. it will undoubtedly give foreign travel and love etc in foreign is possible. on the other hand, the over all results will not b really so good, since moon being 12th. look for the appropriate ADs in moon MD to see when they will actually happen. there are other things but this is the "first glance common sense" and the basic fact. b. Moon-Merc are in 12th bhava. c. yes. d. yes, but some difficulty might be there. e. 9L in 12H, Ketu in 8H, etc might give it - see deeper. this is only a very crude and basic look, possibly has errors. But actually right now I have to go to bed, so please perdon me :-) best wishes, tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - anantha_u Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:42 PM Need clarification Hi All,I am new to this group and would like clarification on some points that are unclear to me.Rasi: Lagna(27.10)-Capricorn; Rahu(3.30)-Aquaries; Saturn(24.14)®-Aries; Ketu(3.30)-Leo; Venus®(16.18),Mars(2.0),Jupiter(27.40)- Libra; Sun(14.40)-Scorpio; Moon(2.09),Mercury(1.40)-Saggitaurus.Navamsa:Lagna-Virgo; Mars-Libra; Sun,Rahu,Saturn®-Scorpio; Venus®-Aquarius; Moon,Mercury-Aries; Ketu-Taurus; Jupiter-Gemini.a. In the above chart, what results will be produced in the Moon dasa?b. Is there a Rajayoga due to Moon-Mercury combination(they are in 11th bhava)? c. Will there be foreign travels during this dasa? d. Will the native succeed in business?e. Are there any combinations for spirituality in the chart?Best Regards,Ananth ------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Free shipping on all inkjet cartridge & refill kit orders to US & Canada. Low prices up to 80% off. We have your brand: HP, Epson, Lexmark & more.http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5510http://us.click./GHXcIA/n.WGAA/ySSFAA/C9XolB/TM---~->~! SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST !~ Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2003 Report Share Posted July 16, 2003 hello, this is my very quick opinion, learned members please correct me if needed. a. as per what i seen always, maha dasa (MD) does not make anything happen directly but helps other things happen, and creates a boundary out of what the anter dashas (AD) can not go. MD, AD, PD all have their own importance and while we can not neglect any of them, but the ultimate importance goes to AD most of the times. in general, moon MD will create the boundary of events like romance, affair and shared dealings and trades for it's 7H lordship. it will undoubtedly give foreign travel and love etc in foreign is possible. on the other hand, the over all results will not b really so good, since moon being 12th. This is not intended to be a correction, please, but a question. Can this boundary be expanded if the Mahasasa is of the lagna ruler, or the Atmakaraka? It seems to me that, in these cases, the person's whole self-conception might come into it. BTW, I notice that you prefer the same font and color that I do, so I have decided to differentiate my posts from yours on this list by using earth tone instead of blue. Shantih. Om Tryambakam YajamaheHoraku SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 thanks tanvir, does anyone know how birth time correction is done? my son was born on 11-oct-2002. i and my family members heard the baby's scream at 7:47am (libra ascendent in Kumbha Navamsa) but the doctors say the birth time is 7:55am (libra lagna and Meena Navamsa). how do we determine which of these 2 times is the correct one? regards --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > hello, > > this is my very quick opinion, learned members > please correct me if needed. > > a. as per what i seen always, maha dasa (MD) does > not make anything happen directly but helps other > things happen, and creates a boundary out of what > the anter dashas (AD) can not go. MD, AD, PD all > have their own importance and while we can not > neglect any of them, but the ultimate importance > goes to AD most of the times. > > in general, moon MD will create the boundary of > events like romance, affair and shared dealings and > trades for it's 7H lordship. it will undoubtedly > give foreign travel and love etc in foreign is > possible. on the other hand, the over all results > will not b really so good, since moon being 12th. > > look for the appropriate ADs in moon MD to see when > they will actually happen. > > there are other things but this is the "first glance > common sense" and the basic fact. > > b. Moon-Merc are in 12th bhava. > > c. yes. > > d. yes, but some difficulty might be there. > > e. 9L in 12H, Ketu in 8H, etc might give it - see > deeper. > > this is only a very crude and basic look, possibly > has errors. But actually right now I have to go to > bed, so please perdon me :-) > > best wishes, > tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > > - > anantha_u > > Wednesday, July 16, 2003 11:42 PM > Need clarification > > > Hi All, > > I am new to this group and would like > clarification on some points > that are unclear to me. > > Rasi: Lagna(27.10)-Capricorn; Rahu(3.30)-Aquaries; > Saturn(24.14)®- > Aries; Ketu(3.30)-Leo; > Venus®(16.18),Mars(2.0),Jupiter(27.40)- > Libra; Sun(14.40)-Scorpio; > Moon(2.09),Mercury(1.40)-Saggitaurus. > > Navamsa:Lagna-Virgo; Mars-Libra; > Sun,Rahu,Saturn®-Scorpio; Venus > ®-Aquarius; Moon,Mercury-Aries; Ketu-Taurus; > Jupiter-Gemini. > > a. In the above chart, what results will be > produced in the Moon > dasa? > b. Is there a Rajayoga due to Moon-Mercury > combination(they are in > 11th bhava)? > c. Will there be foreign travels during this dasa? > > d. Will the native succeed in business? > e. Are there any combinations for spirituality in > the chart? > > Best Regards, > Ananth > ~! SURVIVAL OF THE FITTEST !~ > > Your use of is subject to > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Greetings, What I've read is that the birth time is the moment of separation from the mother's body, and that is undoubtedly what the doctors recorded. But both of these times are significant. The child's cry was it's first self-initiated act in this life. You could understand a lot about this birth from the astrology of that moment as well. What you would see would be more like a Western chart; the child's opinion about it's own birth. To really understand a birth, all available information should be used. The planets in the heavens are not the only signs that surround births. There are births that change the weather, and births that make the animals gather 'round. Since the mother noticed the moment of the child's first cry, it must mean something. It's not really clear what the astrological difference is in this case. Kumba and Meem are not Nakshatra, they are Rashi. There are three Nakshatra in Libra (going from Virgo to Scorpio): Chittra (2 pada), Swati (4 pada), and Vishaka (3 pada). That's a total of 9 pada. A pada is 3 deg, 20 min. 9 times 3. deg. 20 min. is 30 degrees, the total number of degrees in a Rashi. Every Nakshatra has 4 pada. In this case, Chittra has its other two pada in Virgo, and Vishaka has allowed one of her pada to stray into Scorpio. That's what I like about Jyotish; it's humorous. Who would have guessed 27 nakshatra, each of them having four feet, and that nine out of 27 (those ruled by Mars, The Sun, and the Guru) would not be able to keep all four of their feet in the same Rashi? Om Tryambakam YajamaheHoraku SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2003 Report Share Posted July 17, 2003 Often times, we hear that the actual birth time, Astrologically, is supposed to begin...when the baby leave's the Mother... Not the cry or first birth... Very rarely, however, will that subtle difference, change the Rising Sign... though the more suble divisional charts and dasas... can change even if the birth time is off a couple of mins. So, a rectification...is a logical...step for most Astrologers.... In fact, when I do people's charts... My first few questions...are all about verifying the Rising Sign... It's not as hard as one might think! The two charts are almost indistinguishable... but over time, it may start to be more clear...from the child's life experiences... which one it really was. This is a fairly, normal, Jyotish event. I'd predominantly, focus on all the other symbolisms of the chart... Those will be the most interesting... Good luck! When I calculate the two charts... the Rising Sign, Natal chart doesn't change, and neither does the Rising Sign of the Navamsa chart... the dasa sequence, however, does by about 12 days... IN the practice of Jyotish, sometimes, you can't ever, really figure out the exact birth time... So, what you do, is look at a number of events... from the life... and you look at the different dasa, shifts...like this example of being born at one of two different times... With practice...you can start to fine-tune this... and come to an acceptable...dasa sequence.... enjoy Mark Kincaid shakuhoraku <shakuhoraku wrote: > > > anantha krishna <anantha_u wrote: thanks > tanvir, > > does anyone know how birth time correction is done? > > my son was born on 11-oct-2002. i and my family > members heard the baby's scream at 7:47am (libra > ascendent in Kumbha Navamsa) but the doctors say the > birth time is 7:55am (libra lagna and Meena > Navamsa). > > how do we determine which of these 2 times is the > correct one? > > regards > > > > Greetings, > > What I've read is that the birth time is the moment > of separation from the mother's body, and that is > undoubtedly what the doctors recorded. > > But both of these times are significant. The > child's cry was it's first self-initiated act in > this life. You could understand a lot about this > birth from the astrology of that moment as well. > What you would see would be more like a Western > chart; the child's opinion about it's own birth. > > To really understand a birth, all available > information should be used. The planets in the > heavens are not the only signs that surround births. > There are births that change the weather, and > births that make the animals gather 'round. Since > the mother noticed the moment of the child's first > cry, it must mean something. > > It's not really clear what the astrological > difference is in this case. Kumba and Meem are not > Nakshatra, they are Rashi. There are three > Nakshatra in Libra (going from Virgo to Scorpio): > Chittra (2 pada), Swati (4 pada), and Vishaka (3 > pada). That's a total of 9 pada. A pada is 3 deg, > 20 min. 9 times 3. deg. 20 min. is 30 degrees, the > total number of degrees in a Rashi. Every Nakshatra > has 4 pada. In this case, Chittra has its other two > pada in Virgo, and Vishaka has allowed one of her > pada to stray into Scorpio. > > That's what I like about Jyotish; it's humorous. > Who would have guessed 27 nakshatra, each of them > having four feet, and that nine out of 27 (those > ruled by Mars, The Sun, and the Guru) would not be > able to keep all four of their feet in the same > Rashi? > > Om Tryambakam Yajamahe > Horaku > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2003 Report Share Posted July 25, 2003 I have posted this answer once, but for unknown reason it didnt show up. So, I am posting it again. As per my opinion, Asc. lord's / AK's MD would still create a boundary. Though the range and the effect of the boundary would depend on it's position, strength etc. My chart can be a good example since I am running the MD of Mercury, who is both my Asc lord and AK. It is in the 4th house of academic learning and family life. Before Merc MD, naturally I was running Sat MD. Sat is exalted in 2nd and aspects 4th house. So it is negative about studies. But, even then, in the good ADs in Sat MD, I did brilliant. On the other hand, still in good ADs of Merc MD, I do very good, but the overall condition of studies detoriorated in Merc MD, than Sat MD. A boundary. When I look back roughly, (It is enough to look roughly to figure out MD effect, since they are so long) I see that Merc MD is greatly disturbing my family life. (Again a boundary that is not allowing the ADs to go out of it.) Good ADs are doing good in family life, but still, I was a lot happy about family life in Sat MD. In 4th, Merc joins Ve (2L, 9L), Ketu and Sun (12L). I remember that Me-Me was a lot troublesome for family life, education, mother etc. I suddenly started to do bad and mom used to be a lot worried (Like other moms of my classmets, since it was one of the best schools) and she used to scold me. I know that when Merc MD will be over, I will again to good (Overall good) in Ke MD. I will be doing my masters that time around 2007. To confirm this again, any stone related to Merc detoriorates my studies. best wishes, Tanvir BTW - the preference for same font style is surprising! To be exact, I have been using this style since Dec 2000!!!! What can not happen, can never happen. Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhury tanvir http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro , shakuhoraku <shakuhoraku> wrote: > This is not intended to be a correction, please, but a question. Can this boundary be expanded if the Mahasasa is of the lagna ruler, or the Atmakaraka? It seems to me that, in these cases, the person's whole self-conception might come into it. > > BTW, I notice that you prefer the same font and color that I do, so I have decided to differentiate my posts from yours on this list by using earth tone instead of blue. Shantih. > > Om Tryambakam Yajamahe > Horaku > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2003 Report Share Posted July 30, 2003 Sorry for my late reply. Birth time rectification is a very complicated and time consuming process. It also needs good skill and experience. Likely, the doctor is wrong, may be he noted the birth time little late. Since people already heard the cry at 7.47 AM. But it also depends on if the clocks used by relatives were well adjusted or not, etc. If both parties clocks were adjusted, then the relatives are right, a doctor would not care anough to write the exact time as the relatives would do, hopefully! Best wishes, tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - anantha krishna Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:53 PM Re: Need clarification thanks tanvir,does anyone know how birth time correction is done?my son was born on 11-oct-2002. i and my familymembers heard the baby's scream at 7:47am (libraascendent in Kumbha Navamsa) but the doctors say thebirth time is 7:55am (libra lagna and Meena Navamsa). how do we determine which of these 2 times is thecorrect one?regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2003 Report Share Posted August 1, 2003 Dear Group and anantha krishna Birth time recitification is done through various methods, of which Kunda Vighati method is more accurate. The vighati lagna lord should be a male planet, The kunda should be in trines to navamsa moon, the Pranapada lagna should be in 7th or trines to navamsa moon as Moon represents human birth. This can be obtained from Jhora software which is freely available on net. regards partha om tat sat , "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote: > Sorry for my late reply. > > Birth time rectification is a very complicated and time consuming process. It also needs good skill and experience. > > Likely, the doctor is wrong, may be he noted the birth time little late. Since people already heard the cry at 7.47 AM. But it also depends on if the clocks used by relatives were well adjusted or not, etc. > > If both parties clocks were adjusted, then the relatives are right, a doctor would not care anough to write the exact time as the relatives would do, hopefully! > > Best wishes, > tanvir > > > > What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine. > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir@s... > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > - > anantha krishna > > Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:53 PM > Re: Need clarification > > > thanks tanvir, > > does anyone know how birth time correction is done? > > my son was born on 11-oct-2002. i and my family > members heard the baby's scream at 7:47am (libra > ascendent in Kumbha Navamsa) but the doctors say the > birth time is 7:55am (libra lagna and Meena Navamsa). > > how do we determine which of these 2 times is the > correct one? > > regards Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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