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Learner <blr_delhi_asia (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: To:

From: Learner Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:57:12

+0100 (BST) Example-Tanvir Please Verify

Hi,

I am new to Vedic Aastrlogy.

I have taken a example (horrroscope of my friend). And we have tried to write

down the lords of houses. This was causing some confusion to us.

Please verify if our finding is correct.

Dob-> 9 July 1976

Time -> 7:10 Morning

Place -> Andaman and Nicobar Island

For Kundali , see the attached document:-

 

Ascendant -> Cancer

Moon Sign->Scorpio

Rules for determining lords says

ARIES

Mars

TAURAS

Venus

GEMINI

MERCURY

CANCER

MOON

LEO

SUN

VIRGO

MERCURY

LIBRA

VENUS

SCORPIO

MARS

SAGITARIUS

JUPITER

CAPRICORN

SATURN

AQUARIUS

SATURN

PISCES

JUPITER

 

As per above chart,

HOUSE NO

LORD (as per above table)

Actual planet present in the house as per horroscope chart

1

MOON

KETU

2

SUN

Jupiter

3

MERCURY

Sun,Mer and Venus

4

VENUS

Saturn

5

MARS

Mars

6

JUPITER

Empty

7

SATURN

Rahu

8

SATURN

Moon

9

JUPITER

Empty

10

Mars

Empty

11

Venus

Empty

12

MERCURY

Empty

 

We shall be obliged if you can check and tell if this is correct way of determing the lordships.

 

 

Thanxs

 

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Learner <blr_delhi_asia (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: To:

From: Learner Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:57:12

+0100 (BST) Example-Tanvir Please Verify

Hi,

I am new to Vedic Aastrlogy.

I have taken a example (horrroscope of my friend). And we have tried to write

down the lords of houses. This was causing some confusion to us.

Please verify if our finding is correct.

Dob-> 9 July 1976

Time -> 7:10 Morning

Place -> Andaman and Nicobar Island

For Kundali , see the attached document:-

 

Ascendant -> Cancer

Moon Sign->Scorpio

Rules for determining lords says

ARIES

Mars

TAURAS

Venus

GEMINI

MERCURY

CANCER

MOON

LEO

SUN

VIRGO

MERCURY

LIBRA

VENUS

SCORPIO

MARS

SAGITARIUS

JUPITER

CAPRICORN

SATURN

AQUARIUS

SATURN

PISCES

JUPITER

 

As per above chart,

HOUSE NO

LORD (as per above table)

Actual planet present in the house as per horroscope chart

1

MOON

KETU

2

SUN

Jupiter

3

MERCURY

Sun,Mer and Venus

4

VENUS

Saturn

5

MARS

Mars

6

JUPITER

Empty

7

SATURN

Rahu

8

SATURN

Moon

9

JUPITER

Empty

10

Mars

Empty

11

Venus

Empty

12

MERCURY

Empty

 

We shall be obliged if you can check and tell if this is correct way of determing the lordships.

 

 

Thanxs

 

Dear Friend,

I don't know how your letter wound up in my mailbox, and I didn't get the

attached chart. You have got the Rasi rulers right, but when I put this data

(July 9, 1976, 7:10 AM) into my copy of JHL, I got these planets in these

houses, with Cancer rising;

1. Venus, Saturn2. Mars3. -- 4. Rahu 5. --6. Moon 7. --8. --9. --10. Ketu 11. Guru12. Mercury, Sun.

Please, I'm not a guru, but the JHL lite program is quite trustworthy.

This is an interesting case. I believe this native just had their 37th solar

return, just before the full moon in Sagittarius that occured yesterday. The

natal moon (the chart ruler) is almost full but in sandhya, with its Nakshatra

ruler (Ketu) in the 10th, and it's Rasi ruler (Jupiter) in the 11th. So there

is both the interest in astrology, and the confusion, of Ketu, appearing in

public, and the guru is a personal friend. But the guru has to watch out,

because he/she is in sandhya and in Krittika, with its capacity for lethal

divsion. This natal Jupiter is also recieving the current transit of Ketu in

Krittika; the person could be in quite a stew.

With Mercury-Sun in the 12th, and Venus-Saturn in the first, one would also

foresee some confusion. Even though Mercury is Swakshetra (own sign), it works

against accurate communication as the ruler of the third in the 12th.

With respect to dasas, this native entered their Sun dasa at the end of March

this year, which is difficult in this birth, and the Moon antardasa is due to

start on the day after tomorrow, which will bring all these Ketu issues (what

to give up?) to a head.

Please re-check your data. If you try to interpret this birth with the planets

you've given, I believe you could wind up with a lot more confusion.

Om Tryambakam YajamaheHoraku

 

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Hi Friend,

Kundali Chart that you have posted is not what I had got. I had got

that from astrospeak.indiatimes.com link. As per that,

1 -> KETU ®

2 -> JUPITER

3 -> SUN,MER and VENUS

4 -> SAT

5 -> MARS

6 -> -

7 -> RAHU ®

8 -> MOON

9 -> -

10 -> -

11 -> -

12 -> -

 

PLEASE CHECK if the place of birth was put correctly in your software.

I think that first we should check the validity of the chart before

going further.

 

If some other member has some valid software to find out then please

join the thread.

 

Thanxs

 

 

, shakuhoraku

<shakuhoraku> wrote:

>

>

> Learner <blr_delhi_asia> wrote: To:

 

> Learner

> Fri, 11 Jul 2003 06:57:12 +0100 (BST)

> Example-Tanvir Please Verify

>

>

> Hi,

>

> I am new to Vedic Aastrlogy.

>

> I have taken a example (horrroscope of my friend). And we have

tried to write down the lords of houses. This was causing some

confusion to us.

>

> Please verify if our finding is correct.

>

> Dob-> 9 July 1976

>

> Time -> 7:10 Morning

>

> Place -> Andaman and Nicobar Island

>

> For Kundali , see the attached document:-

>

>

>

> Ascendant -> Cancer

>

> Moon Sign->Scorpio

>

> Rules for determining lords says

>

>

> ARIES

>

> Mars

>

> TAURAS

>

> Venus

>

> GEMINI

>

> MERCURY

>

> CANCER

>

> MOON

>

> LEO

>

> SUN

>

> VIRGO

>

> MERCURY

>

> LIBRA

>

> VENUS

>

> SCORPIO

>

> MARS

>

> SAGITARIUS

>

> JUPITER

>

> CAPRICORN

>

> SATURN

>

> AQUARIUS

>

> SATURN

>

> PISCES

>

> JUPITER

>

>

>

>

> As per above chart,

>

>

> HOUSE NO

>

> LORD (as per above table)

>

> Actual planet present in the house as per horroscope chart

>

> 1

>

> MOON

>

> KETU

>

> 2

>

> SUN

>

> Jupiter

>

> 3

>

> MERCURY

>

> Sun,Mer and Venus

>

> 4

>

> VENUS

>

> Saturn

>

> 5

>

> MARS

>

> Mars

>

> 6

>

> JUPITER

>

> Empty

>

> 7

>

> SATURN

>

> Rahu

>

> 8

>

> SATURN

>

> Moon

>

> 9

>

> JUPITER

>

> Empty

>

> 10

>

> Mars

>

> Empty

>

> 11

>

> Venus

>

> Empty

>

> 12

>

> MERCURY

>

> Empty

>

>

>

>

> We shall be obliged if you can check and tell if this is correct

way of determing the lordships.

>

>

>

>

>

> Thanxs

>

>

>

>

>

> Dear Friend,

>

> I don't know how your letter wound up in my mailbox, and I didn't

get the attached chart. You have got the Rasi rulers right, but when

I put this data (July 9, 1976, 7:10 AM) into my copy of JHL, I got

these planets in these houses, with Cancer rising;

> 1. Venus, Saturn

> 2. Mars

> 3. --

> 4. Rahu

> 5. --

> 6. Moon

> 7. --

> 8. --

> 9. --

> 10. Ketu

> 11. Guru

> 12. Mercury, Sun.

>

>

>

> Please, I'm not a guru, but the JHL lite program is quite

trustworthy.

> This is an interesting case. I believe this native just had their

37th solar return, just before the full moon in Sagittarius that

occured yesterday. The natal moon (the chart ruler) is almost full

but in sandhya, with its Nakshatra ruler (Ketu) in the 10th, and it's

Rasi ruler (Jupiter) in the 11th. So there is both the interest in

astrology, and the confusion, of Ketu, appearing in public, and the

guru is a personal friend. But the guru has to watch out, because

he/she is in sandhya and in Krittika, with its capacity for lethal

divsion. This natal Jupiter is also recieving the current transit of

Ketu in Krittika; the person could be in quite a stew.

> With Mercury-Sun in the 12th, and Venus-Saturn in the first, one

would also foresee some confusion. Even though Mercury is Swakshetra

(own sign), it works against accurate communication as the ruler of

the third in the 12th.

> With respect to dasas, this native entered their Sun dasa at the

end of March this year, which is difficult in this birth, and the

Moon antardasa is due to start on the day after tomorrow, which will

bring all these Ketu issues (what to give up?) to a head.

> Please re-check your data. If you try to interpret this birth with

the planets you've given, I believe you could wind up with a lot more

confusion.

> Om Tryambakam Yajamahe

> Horaku

>

>

>

>

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The differences between these two sets of planets cannot be caused by a

difference in rising sign resulting from location. There must be a time

difference, combined with a different house system, to create these kinds of

differences. If the rising sign is Cancer, there's no way you can have Ketu in

the first. Ketu is clearly in Aries, in the Nakshatra of Bharani,

Nakshatra-ruled by a 12th-house Sun, kendra (four signs away) from Cancer.

 

Again, just as another example, Venus is very clearly on the cusp of Cancer.

Venus must be in the first house if Cancer is rising, it cannot be in the

third.

 

You could get the relative positions of the planets that you've got if you used

another house system than the whole sign-house system, which puts the whole

sign of the ascendant in the first house, etc. This is the only system that

allows you to write, as you did originally, that the first house is ruled by

the Moon, etc. With other systems, you're going to have two, or even three,

signs in one house, and therefore a collection of rulers for each house.

 

Wierdly, again, to make this particular mistake - to use Ketu lagna for the

birth - is vibrationally accurate. If you knew how to interpret this, you

could give a useful current reading of the chart. Ketu is the whole current

issue for this native.

 

Tryambakam Yajamahe

Horaku

 

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