Guest guest Posted July 5, 2003 Report Share Posted July 5, 2003 There has been some differences of opinions about the Sani Stotram. This might be good for understanding of the members. Suggestions from the learned members would also be appreciated. Best wishes,Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Tanvir vedic astrology Saturday, July 05, 2003 3:51 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: sani stotram mp3 Hello AmolMander jee, Greetings. Can you tell me why and how it is not even a 'Stuti' of Sani? If you would ever see the meaning you would never say that. From meaning, anyone would understand that it is doubtlessly a Stuti / hymn to Sani. It praises Sani and it's power, it's effect over everything - Gods, Demons, Emperors... how they suffer when Sani is not pleased with them. And almost in every stanzas it says, "Tasmai Namah Sri Ravinandanaya" - Offers prostations to Sri Ravinandanaya [saturn]. Then in which reason you are saying that it is not a Stuti of Saturn? Please tell me, I am very much eager to know and learn from you. I used to think that you are well versed in Sanskrit. But now I am confused. If you would read the Stotram, you would see how nicely it praises Sani, and almost in each stanzas it prostates before Sani Dev. It also mentions 10 names of Sani (Among others) and says that who would regular worship Shani with these names, Sani Dev would steal away his sufferings. "nityam smrito yo harate cha peeram tasmai namah shree ravi-nandanaya" And yes it does mention what is to do to avoid the wrath of Sani. But it does not disqualify it from being the Stuti of Stotram. I am very well aware of the meaning of the word 'Stuti'. I am not well versed in Mantras and Stotrams, but then whatever Stotras I have read, those experience and little knowledge say me that this Stotram is a very standard stuti of Sani. There is nothing lacking so that anyone can tell that it's not a stuti. So, please read the Stotram and see the meaning. Otherwise, if you have any difficulty understanding the meaning, then please feel free to let me know, I will send it to you here in the list. So your statement, "Moreover the one which you have put is not Stuti of the Shani. Rather it gives what is to be done to avoid warth of the Shani." is far away from the truth. It does praise Sani and has everything to be a stuti of Sani. I am almost sure that you did not even read the meaning, then how come such a knowledgeable person like you says that it is not a stuti, rather it says what to so to avoid Sani's wrath. Yes it says about doing things to avoid Sani's anger, but in only about one stanza. How could you overlook / ignore all other 9/10/11 stanzas and focuss only on that stanza forgetting what all other stanzas mean or say? Yesterday I got Sani Stotram in Devanagri Script in PDF format, and then I saw that the Sanskrit fonted Stotram is just the same stotram of this. This is very authentic for sure. I am sure that I would get more of the same Sani Stotram from other sites if I search for. Now does it mean that all the people are mistaking blindly? Or are they lying about this Stotram has been taken from the Brahmanda Purane? Are you sure that this Stotra is not there in the Purane? Or do you have any confusion that in the meaning, it is not praising Sani and someone else? Or it is saying something else than praising Sani? So why can not it be the Stuti of Saturn, please teach me. I am almost sure that you know this, but allow me to mention again. 'Rishi' means someone who visualize the mantra. That is why they are also called to be the "Seers of the mantras". This definition is held by many learned and I got same in the translation of the Stotram. King Dasharatha is clearly indicated thus and he needs not to be a Monk or Priest necessarily in this case. You have provided a Stotram of King Dashartha, telling "The stotra sung by King Dasharath is the correct stotra." Fine. But it does not mean all other Sani Stotram are false or incorrect. I would not agree, sorry. There are two Nav Grah Stotras, including the one by Vyasa Deva. But the existance of his Stotra does not prove the other one to be incorrect. Thanks a lot for your time and space. But I am sorry to say that I am not convinced, since I do not find anything good. If you have anyother points to to prove that this is not even the Stuti of Saturn, then please send. I would be more than willing to learn. Tanvir What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine. Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Amol Mandar vedic astrology Wednesday, July 02, 2003 9:53 PM [vedic astrology] Re: sani stotram mp3 Dear TanvirThe stotra sung by King Dasharath is the correctstotra. There is no Dasharat rishi in Vediclitareture. Moreover the one which you have put is notStuti of the Shani. Rather it gives what is to be doneto avoid warth of the Shani.Read this one it will give you the Stuti of the Shani.King Dasharath sung this after his battle with Shani.Dasharath won that and still praised Shani. In summary, the one displayed at your site is not aShani stotra in real sense. Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.AmolMandar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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