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There has been some differences of opinions about the Sani Stotram. This might

be good for understanding of the members. Suggestions from the learned members

would also be appreciated.

 

Best wishes,Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir

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- Tanvir

vedic astrology

Saturday, July 05, 2003 3:51 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: sani stotram mp3

Hello AmolMander jee, Greetings.

 

Can you tell me why and how it is not even a 'Stuti' of Sani? If you would ever

see the meaning you would never say that. From meaning, anyone would understand

that it is doubtlessly a Stuti / hymn to Sani. It praises Sani and it's power,

it's effect over everything - Gods, Demons, Emperors... how they suffer when

Sani is not pleased with them. And almost in every stanzas it says, "Tasmai

Namah Sri Ravinandanaya" - Offers prostations to Sri Ravinandanaya [saturn].

 

Then in which reason you are saying that it is not a Stuti of Saturn? Please

tell me, I am very much eager to know and learn from you.

 

I used to think that you are well versed in Sanskrit. But now I am confused. If

you would read the Stotram, you would see how nicely it praises Sani, and

almost in each stanzas it prostates before Sani Dev. It also mentions 10 names

of Sani (Among others) and says that who would regular worship Shani with these

names, Sani Dev would steal away his sufferings.

 

"nityam smrito yo harate cha peeram

tasmai namah shree ravi-nandanaya"

 

And yes it does mention what is to do to avoid the wrath of Sani. But it does

not disqualify it from being the Stuti of Stotram. I am very well aware of the

meaning of the word 'Stuti'. I am not well versed in Mantras and Stotrams, but

then whatever Stotras I have read, those experience and little knowledge say me

that this Stotram is a very standard stuti of Sani. There is nothing lacking so

that anyone can tell that it's not a stuti.

 

So, please read the Stotram and see the meaning. Otherwise, if you have any

difficulty understanding the meaning, then please feel free to let me know, I

will send it to you here in the list.

 

So your statement, "Moreover the one which you have put is not Stuti of the

Shani. Rather it gives what is to be done to avoid warth of the Shani." is far

away from the truth. It does praise Sani and has everything to be a stuti of

Sani. I am almost sure that you did not even read the meaning, then how come

such a knowledgeable person like you says that it is not a stuti, rather it

says what to so to avoid Sani's wrath. Yes it says about doing things to avoid

Sani's anger, but in only about one stanza. How could you overlook / ignore all

other 9/10/11 stanzas and focuss only on that stanza forgetting what all other

stanzas mean or say?

 

Yesterday I got Sani Stotram in Devanagri Script in PDF format, and then I saw

that the Sanskrit fonted Stotram is just the same stotram of this. This is very

authentic for sure. I am sure that I would get more of the same Sani Stotram

from other sites if I search for. Now does it mean that all the people are

mistaking blindly? Or are they lying about this Stotram has been taken from the

Brahmanda Purane? Are you sure that this Stotra is not there in the Purane?

 

Or do you have any confusion that in the meaning, it is not praising Sani and

someone else? Or it is saying something else than praising Sani? So why can not

it be the Stuti of Saturn, please teach me.

 

I am almost sure that you know this, but allow me to mention again. 'Rishi'

means someone who visualize the mantra. That is why they are also called to be

the "Seers of the mantras". This definition is held by many learned and I got

same in the translation of the Stotram. King Dasharatha is clearly indicated

thus and he needs not to be a Monk or Priest necessarily in this case.

 

You have provided a Stotram of King Dashartha, telling "The stotra sung by King

Dasharath is the correct stotra." Fine. But it does not mean all other Sani

Stotram are false or incorrect. I would not agree, sorry. There are two Nav

Grah Stotras, including the one by Vyasa Deva. But the existance of his Stotra

does not prove the other one to be incorrect.

 

Thanks a lot for your time and space. But I am sorry to say that I am not

convinced, since I do not find anything good. If you have anyother points to to

prove that this is not even the Stuti of Saturn, then please send. I would be

more than willing to learn.

 

Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir

Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

 

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Amol Mandar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 02, 2003 9:53 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: sani stotram mp3

Dear TanvirThe stotra sung by King Dasharath is the correctstotra. There is no

Dasharat rishi in Vediclitareture. Moreover the one which you have put is

notStuti of the Shani. Rather it gives what is to be doneto avoid warth of the

Shani.Read this one it will give you the Stuti of the Shani.King Dasharath sung

this after his battle with Shani.Dasharath won that and still praised Shani. In

summary, the one displayed at your site is not aShani stotra in real sense.

Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.AmolMandar

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