loan problems

June 24, 2003

I'll just add that I have the ruler of the 12th (Sun) in the 6th and I

have always had debts. Whenever I get them paid off circumstances seem to

bring them back again. It seems endless...

On 6/24/2003 - 11:17:32, "Tanvir" said:

> i have seen 3 charts with 12L in 12H, and all of them had debt probs! I

was almost started to believe that 12L and H rules debts more than 6th H

and L... then I found the ans that a planet from 12th directly aspects

6H !!!!!! so the planet of expenditure being strong from own house

aspecting the house of debts gives debts almost all the times!

>

> but 12th H also does have something to say about debts I think.

>

> the matter of transit of saturn is okay. but i am not sure how come

transits give debt unless promised in the natal chart? we all would face

debts 4/5 times in life then...

>

> best wishes,

> tanvir

>

> What can not happen, can never happen.

> Which is mine, is forever mine.

>

> Tanvir Chowdhury

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> <DIV> </DIV><TT>Dear Tanvir, there seems some truth in the

logic

> given by myst 3949, i have also seen a number of horo-scope where

the

> saturn when occupy/lord of 8 th give loan problem, when transit 12

house

> from lagana or moon ( i.e chandra-sade-saati or lagana-sade-

saati) ,

> because 12th house represent loan, i think this yoga needs a

careful study

> further to establish some point as now a days loan is frequent

> phenomena Regards Sri Harsh ---

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> wrote: > who are u talking about?......in replying pls mention >

> the subject pls/thanks > --- Clara van den Heuvel <myst3949@h...>

> wrote: > > Transit Saturn has passed recently his 12th

> house > > for about 2 years and Saturn is lord of eight

> house, > > and 12th rules expenditures. > >

> - > > Tanvir >

> > Jyotish Remedies > > Sent:

> Wednesday, June 18, 2003 4:07 PM > > Re:

> loan problems > > > > > > Very

> interesting chart. Because I do not find any > > debt problem in

this

> chart. 6th L Mars goes to 9th > > along with 1,4 L Merc. Mars is

also

> the 11th L. 2nd > > L Mo goes to 11th of gains. This Mo aspects

Mars

> and > > Merc in 9th. How come? Not sure... > > >

> > 6th H is also free from any planets. It is > >

> aspected by 2nd L, 3rd L, and Rahu. > > > > I

> would not predict any debt problem for this > > native. Are you

sure

> of the data? > > > > For Gemini natives Mars

> alone can not create very > > much debt since he also rules the

11th

> - opposite of > > debt - earning! (If Mars is very weak then it

> is > > otherwise, but Mars can afflict to debt I mean.) > >

> > > Best wishes, > > Tanvir >

> > > > > > > > What can not

> happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever

> mine. > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury >

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> here with . he suffering with > > lots of >

> > loan problem.can any body give good

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June 24, 2003

Yes... the reason is clear... a 12th L in 6th may also suggest loss and

expenditure due to enemies, health issues, fines etc.

But again, a weak 12th L can mean less expenditure comparatively, not so?Regards,

Tanvir

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

Tanvir

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Tuesday, June 24, 2003 11:19 PM

Re: Re: Re: loan problems

I'll just add that I have the ruler of the 12th (Sun) in the 6th and I have

always had debts. Whenever I get them paid off circumstances seem to bring

them back again. It seems endless...On 6/24/2003 - 11:17:32, "Tanvir" said:> i

have seen 3 charts with 12L in 12H, and all of them had debt probs! I was almost

started to believe that 12L and H rules debts more than 6th H and L... then I

found the ans that a planet from 12th directly aspects 6H !!!!!! so the planet

of expenditure being strong from own house aspecting the house of debts gives

debts almost all the times!> > but 12th H also does have something to say about

debts I think.> > the matter of transit of saturn is okay. but i am not sure how

come transits give debt unless promised in the natal chart? we all would face

debts 4/5 times in life then...> > best wishes,> tanvir> > > > What can not

happen, can never happen.> Which is mine, is forever mine.> > Tanvir Chowdhury>

tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir>

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro>

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