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This might be interesting to some members... please read the whole thread if interested :-)

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir

Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

 

 

 

- Tanvir

lalkitab

Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:17 PM

Re: [lalkitab] Personal Effort

Hello,

 

When you have some free time, please be kind to find the references and send me

to tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com :-) It is not necessary right now, since I am also kind

of engaged in studies, will be free in July.

 

Mr Das Goravani is of the same opinion and anyone who gives it a little thought

will understand that there is no free will, if one believes in vedic astrology

then there can be no free will - either of vedic astrology or free will power

will have to be void to let the another one exist!!!

 

Yes I do agree that remedy will work when indicated in chart. Gem, mantra, yajna

- all are indicated by certain houses and without good influences on those

houses, the person will never be able to find the good / correct remedy , or

the remedy will not work etc.

 

As per my experience I have seen that charity does not work for me - whenever I

do any charity for any planet, I simply end up STRENGTHENING the planet !!!!!!

 

Then I did charity of 9th Lord Venus to strengthen it, I had sort of financial

trouble and a friend misunderstood me for no reason and blamed me like anything

within the next day of charity. The friend was of libra lagna - ruled by venus

which charity I did. And ve also is my 2nd lord so soon I faced financial

trouble within next day.

 

Thus I am too scared to do anymore charity to pacify any planet.

 

I want to write an article on free wil after I find some free time, this might

generate some discussion esp in my list :-)

Best wishes,Tanvir

 

 

 

What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine.

 

Tanvir

Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

 

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Punit Pandey

lalkitab

Thursday, June 12, 2003 5:06 PM

Re: [lalkitab] Personal Effort

Dear Tanvir,I have gone through some text by Raman Maharishi andRam Krishna

Paramhamsa. It seems that they were ofopinion of "no free will". If someone

interested I cantell exact reference from books although I'll have tosearch a

little. K.S. Krishnamurti (inventor of KPSystem) had of same opinion. Although

this idea of 100% raises lots of questionsand I am sure lots of disagreements.

For example ifthis 100% theory is correct there is no remedy et al.or remedy

works only if there is already indication ofremedy in horoscope etc. etc. THE

PROBLEM IS I DON'TFIND MYSELF ENOUGH INTELLEGENT TO COMMENT ON THISMATTER. But

I think taking help of Raman Maharishi andRamkrishna Paramhansa is a good idea.

Regards,Punit Pandey--- Tanvir <tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com> wrote:> I agree to this

100%. We have almost no free will or> if we have, it is not more than 2-3%. If

we had ANY> free will, we could avoid any prediction, could be> and do anything

and do prediction would ever come> true. This is the simpliest logic. Anything a

man or> person does or face could have been prediction right> after his birth.

Refer to Gita what Sri Krishna said> - Although the soul in the body thinks

himself to be> the doer, he does nohing...> > Regards,> Tanvir> > > > What can

not happen, can never happen.> Which is mine, is forever mine.> > Tanvir

Chowdhury> tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir>

http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro>

> > > ----- Original Message

----- > Punit Pandey > lalkitab > Sent:

Thursday, June 12, 2003 2:30 PM> Re: [lalkitab] Personal Effort> > >

Hello Colin,> > I think sage Parashara has never written anything> about

it. I have sent and e-mail to Mr. Satrajit> Majumdar, CEO CyberAstro.com

asking for reference> from> BPHS.> > Anyway I believe that 100% is

prewritten and we> cannot> change anything or only can change the things

that> are> written to be changed. :) > > It is just my opinion based on my

experience and> other> members can have their own opion. > > Punit Pandey>

> > --- Colin Yardley <yardley (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:> > I received the following

in my email box this> > morning from a Vedic Web Site:> > > > "As a

prelude to the launch of the Members Forum> at> > Cyberastro.com, we > >

had started an opinion poll on the home page.> Last> > week's subject was >

> "Personal effort can override signatures of a> natal> > chart". An > >

overwhelming majority respondents (76%) have> polled> > "Yes", while > >

16% have said "No". 8% seem undecided about this> > matter. It seems > >

most respondents are in agreement with Sage> > Parashara, the father of > >

Vedic Astrology, in his summarization that> personal> > effort accounts for >

> 75% of results in life, while the balance is> > governed by the signatures>

> of the natal chart."> > > > I'd be interested to hear responses from

Lal> > Kitabbers on this assertion. It is quite> empowering> > to consider

that one's efforts do matter more> than a> > little.> > > > Colin

Yardley> > > > > > >

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