Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 I know all this practising astro from last 30 years. I am dealing with remedies of kal sarp and doing research on it.Ritu if u know any of the practical effective remnedy do mail me. Ritu Lalit <ritulalit wrote: I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so again When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is formed. Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that all planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do not confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. Type of Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and the rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises is the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to give windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. Generally natives with this yoga get married late in life . Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house this yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many ups and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are also short tempered. Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the fourth house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by law or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in a beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest form of political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native is worried on account of an insecure financial standing. Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and the rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating to job and business. Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has to go through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an illegitimate child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has the power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. Padam Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house this Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. There is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In this case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are also chances of being let down by friends in this case. Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in the twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it has the power to confer power and political success. Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house this yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital discord in the life of the native. Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house this yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many enemies. Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The native does not get paternal wealth. Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house the yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native travels frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise from children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half of their life. Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this yoga arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are may enemies and health problems. The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer gains too. All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2005 Report Share Posted February 24, 2005 Sir, You have written in detail about kalsarpa yooga, and I have figured from your different definitions my daughter has anant kalasarpa yoga. She is currently studying abroad and I have copied her e-mail below just to show how she is frustrated. I don't know if it has anything to do with her kalasarpa yoga . As per her chart she is running Rahu dasa and Kuja antar dasa started for her in march 2004 and it is going to end on 25th march 2005. Will these transit period of Rahu to guru cause her troubles. During this period she lost her purse and put through various inconveniences. I am also not sure how this can effect her in other ways, I am little concerned about her safety too. Her date of birth is: Feb 9th 1986 9.20 am sunday Naperville, Illinois ( if naperville is not found, you can go for chicago). With Kalasarpa yoga what her future is going to be?. Will she have a peaceful life? What she should watchful of? Are there any remedies she can perform to overcome the stress. Since she is a young girl struggling placed away from parents because of educational reasons, We are trying hard to make sure she can address her stresses properly. Thank You Aruna "So many things are going wrong here its so annoying! firstly, the wireless company wasnt registering my card for the internet...that finally happened TODAY after two months. BUT NOW, my computer is completely not working because of the power cord, and i borrowed some ones laptop but his has a virus so it keeps shutting down. Secondly, i added more credit to the cell phone but it wont work. I borrowed richas calling card for local number and tried calling for like 2 hours (cause the closest store was like a 40 minute walk away and its sooo cold and SNOWINGGG here) and after like 2 hours i finally get through and he tells me that they dont take non-uk credit cards so i have to go into the store. NOW, i have no internet, no phone, and no computer. and I have so much work to do. ANDD ITS SO COLD. On top of that, because i had no credit, I put my phone in my room and left it there cause I didn't have any use cause it had no money on it, and I missed five calls on it, including 2 of yours and that bothers me so much cause I cant even call you back. AND i need to buy a calling card - BUT I CANT DO THAT ON THE INTERNET cause i dont have it for more than 30 seconds cause my computer shuts down or no internet, and ITS SO COLD OUT to go and physically buy one. THIS IS ANNOYING ME SO MUCH. I DONT EVEN KNOW WHEN OR HOW TO SEND OUT THIS EMAIL! Anyways, I'm going to go now. If you get this message please call me I will keep my phone with me. I love you both but am SOOOO ANNOYED AT THE WORLD RIGHT NOW!!" --- Ritu Lalit <ritulalit wrote: > > I had posted this article here some time back - and > am doing so again > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and > Ketu i.e., the > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp > Yoga is formed. > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of > the chart is > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside > the Rahu Ketu > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga > make sure that all > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is > one planet > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does > not exist. do not > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka > Dosha. > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the > seventh house and the > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga > which arises is > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as > Vipareeta Kaalsarp > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has > the power to give > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital > life. Generally > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in > the 3rd house this > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the > chart have many ups > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking > lies. They are also > short tempered. > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and > ketu in the fourth > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. > Punishment by law > or the Government also possible. However if this > yoga operates in a > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer > the highest form of > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the > eighth house Kulik > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for > health. The > probability of losses and accidents is high with > natives of this > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity > too. The native is > worried on account of an insecure financial > standing. > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the > ninth house and the > rest of the planets are located to the left of the > Rahu Ketu axis > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with > problems relating to > job and business. > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th > this yoga is > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work > sphere and has to go > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has > an illegitimate > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this > yoga also has the > power of conferring high political success and > windfall gains. > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the > eleventh house this > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of > children. There > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is > also afflicted > then there is the possibility of being troubled by > spirits. In this > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is > slow. There are also > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house > and Ketu is in the > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has > problems on > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts > beneficially it has > the power to confer power and political success. > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the > first house this > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative > tendencies and can > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. > There is marital > discord in the life of the native. > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the > second house this > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has > many enemies. > Such a native has friendship with the anti social > elements. The > native does not get paternal wealth. > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the > fifth house the > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The > native travels > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems > also arise from > children. However these natives get some peace in > the latter half of > their life. > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the > 6th house this yoga > arises. The native has problems relating to > litigation. There are may > enemies and health problems. > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the > power to confer gains > too. > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis > there is no Kaalsarp > Yoga. > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's > south node. > > > > > > Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. http://info.mail./mail_250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dear All, Kal Sarp, please dont take it as a deadly disease like cancer.Even famous personlaities like Aishwarya Rai, Dhirubhai, Rajiv Gandhi ..etc are having this in their horoscope.Kalsarp gives good results also and the results are such good that it makes the person a personality. So,please dont panic with this yoga,it is one of the best yoga that a person can have.A person with a good Kalsarp yog can live a king life even if rest of his grahas are not good. kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear Aruna, first of all, please stop worrying and try to console your daughter. Since it is a transition period from Rahu->Guru Dasha, confusions, frustrations, sadness, introvert feelings are all common. It has nothing to do with Kala Sarpa Yoga(KSY). KSY DOES NOT AFFECT ANY SINGLE HUMAN BEING, but affects a state or country or group of people. There is no shanti required. However, to control mind and to get up to the World, I suggest Meditation/ Dhyaana, or simply a prayer to get inner stregth. If your daughter is religious, let her use God/Goddess to imagine as DHYEYA, the object of meditation. From your side, give her inner strength, while you speak or mail; With STRONG MARS in the chart, she is certainly able to manage herself. So keep cool and do not get carried away by tantra yantra mantra etc., because all those need high concentration to fructify, for which first step would be meditation and self control. Why just telephone cards/internet/pc?....You will see your daughter getting everything she wants.... GOD does not exist without MYSELF! humbly, KAD , krishna tanuku <ktanuku> wrote: > Sir, > You have written in detail about kalsarpa yooga, and I > have figured from your different definitions my > daughter has anant kalasarpa yoga. She is currently > studying abroad and I have copied her e-mail below > just to show how she is frustrated. I don't know if it > has anything to do with her kalasarpa yoga . As per > her chart she is running Rahu dasa and Kuja antar dasa > started for her in march 2004 and it is going to end > on 25th march 2005. Will these transit period of Rahu > to guru cause her troubles. During this period she > lost her purse and put through various inconveniences. > I am also not sure how this can effect her in other > ways, I am little concerned about her safety too. > Her date of birth is: > Feb 9th 1986 > 9.20 am sunday > Naperville, Illinois ( if naperville is not found, you > can go for chicago). > With Kalasarpa yoga what her future is going to be?. > Will she have a peaceful life? What she should > watchful of? Are there any remedies she can perform to > overcome the stress. Since she is a young girl > struggling placed away from parents because of > educational reasons, We are trying hard to make sure > she can address her stresses properly. > Thank You > Aruna > > "So many things are going wrong here its so annoying! > firstly, the wireless company wasnt registering my > card for the internet...that finally happened TODAY > after two months. BUT NOW, my computer is completely > not working because of the power cord, and i borrowed > some ones laptop but his has a virus so it keeps > shutting down. Secondly, i added more credit to the > cell phone but it wont work. I borrowed richas > calling card for local number and tried calling for > like 2 hours (cause the closest store was like a 40 > minute walk away and its sooo cold and SNOWINGGG here) > and after like 2 hours i finally get through and he > tells me that they dont take non-uk credit cards so i > have to go into the store. NOW, i have no internet, no > phone, and no computer. and I have so much work to do. > ANDD ITS SO COLD. On top of that, because i had > no credit, I put my phone in my room and left it there > cause I didn't have any use cause it had no money on > it, and I missed five calls on it, including 2 of > yours and that bothers me so much cause I cant even > call you back. AND i need to buy a calling card - BUT > I CANT DO THAT ON THE INTERNET cause i dont have it > for more than 30 seconds cause my computer shuts down > or no internet, and ITS SO COLD OUT to go and > physically buy one. THIS IS ANNOYING ME SO MUCH. I > DONT EVEN KNOW WHEN OR HOW TO SEND OUT THIS EMAIL! > Anyways, I'm going to go now. If you get this message > please call me I will keep my phone with me. I love > you both but am SOOOO ANNOYED AT THE WORLD RIGHT > NOW!!" > --- Ritu Lalit <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and > > am doing so again > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and > > Ketu i.e., the > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp > > Yoga is formed. > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of > > the chart is > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside > > the Rahu Ketu > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga > > make sure that all > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is > > one planet > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does > > not exist. do not > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka > > Dosha. > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the > > seventh house and the > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga > > which arises is > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as > > Vipareeta Kaalsarp > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has > > the power to give > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital > > life. Generally > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in > > the 3rd house this > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the > > chart have many ups > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking > > lies. They are also > > short tempered. > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and > > ketu in the fourth > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. > > Punishment by law > > or the Government also possible. However if this > > yoga operates in a > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer > > the highest form of > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the > > eighth house Kulik > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for > > health. The > > probability of losses and accidents is high with > > natives of this > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity > > too. The native is > > worried on account of an insecure financial > > standing. > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the > > ninth house and the > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the > > Rahu Ketu axis > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with > > problems relating to > > job and business. > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th > > this yoga is > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work > > sphere and has to go > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has > > an illegitimate > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this > > yoga also has the > > power of conferring high political success and > > windfall gains. > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the > > eleventh house this > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of > > children. There > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is > > also afflicted > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by > > spirits. In this > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is > > slow. There are also > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house > > and Ketu is in the > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has > > problems on > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts > > beneficially it has > > the power to confer power and political success. > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the > > first house this > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative > > tendencies and can > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. > > There is marital > > discord in the life of the native. > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the > > second house this > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has > > many enemies. > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social > > elements. The > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the > > fifth house the > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The > > native travels > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems > > also arise from > > children. However these natives get some peace in > > the latter half of > > their life. > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the > > 6th house this yoga > > arises. The native has problems relating to > > litigation. There are may > > enemies and health problems. > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the > > power to confer gains > > too. > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis > > there is no Kaalsarp > > Yoga. > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's > > south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. > http://info.mail./mail_250 ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / India Matrimony: Find your life partneronline. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2005 Report Share Posted February 26, 2005 Dear KAD ji, A very interesting aspect of the discussion is about:"we remain materialistic by just getting a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple" I would only like to add whether KSY or no KSY in the chart,the native with some spirtual approach gets less bothered about planetary positions and indulges in prayers regularly and all doshas in the chart due to his 5th or 9th houses are addressed.The question of materialistic approach arises in any individual if the sign raising is also materialistic.For this some how i feel all lagnas involving airy signs(ascdt/moon sign) drive the native to materialistic approaches.The order of drive is 7,3rd and 11th signs and also depends on the influence of mars. The remedial measures if only for specific purpose of material gains,then the roots are to be tackled.Somehow progression of life for anybody certainly invlove the order as already suggested and approved by psychologists. We as the people serving cause to society are well placed to harmonise various issues and bring realisation to the people.In this regard material outlook and remedial measures as required have to be viewed. krishnan kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear Ritu, I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take it personally. Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for his problem is much more important too! Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... Even just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to calm down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which is taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their application in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever a person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta and apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? Don't you think we remain materialistic by just getting a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. yours KAD , "Ritu Lalit" <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some go > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is so > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run up > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question of > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe the > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > Ritu > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > wrote: > > > > Dear friend, > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. Can > you > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you read > it > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not coincide > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know the 'source' > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 serpent > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep as it > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found in > > text). > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you are > not > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > formed. > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > Ketu > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that > all > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do > not > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house and > > the > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises > is > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta Kaalsarp > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to > give > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > Generally > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house > > this > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have many > > ups > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are > also > > > short tempered. > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > fourth > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment by > > law > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates in > a > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > form > > of > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > Kulik > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of this > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The native > > is > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and > the > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu axis > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems relating > to > > > job and business. > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has > to > > go > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > illegitimate > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also has > > the > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house > this > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > There > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also afflicted > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In > this > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are > > also > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is in > > the > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it > has > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > this > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and can > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is marital > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > this > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > enemies. > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house > the > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > travels > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise > from > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter half > > of > > > their life. > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house this > > yoga > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There are > > may > > > enemies and health problems. > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer > > gains > > > too. > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > Kaalsarp > > > Yoga. > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Dear Rituji What is the remedy for KSY. Regds Jugal On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 Ritu Lalit wrote : > > >Dear Kad, > >No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I hate >the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some >unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers are >here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such >people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a >practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a lot > from him. > >My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have >suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them >some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them >understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my favourite >saying is and will always be > >"Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who >has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our >difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. > >Ritu > >, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> >wrote: > > > > Dear Ritu, > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > it personally. > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > his problem is much more important too! > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... >Even > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to >calm > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which >is > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their >application > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever >a > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta >and > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? >Don't > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > go > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is >so > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > up > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question >of > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > the > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > , "kadrudra" ><kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. >Can > > > you > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > read > > > it > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > coincide > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know >the 'source' > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > serpent > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep >as > > it > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > in > > > > text). > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you >are > > > not > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > yours > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing >so > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., >the > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart >is > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > Ketu > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure >that > > > all > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one >planet > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. >do > > > not > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > and > > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which >arises > > > is > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power >to > > > give > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > Generally > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd >house > > > > this > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > many > > > > ups > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They >are > > > also > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > fourth > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > by > > > > law > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga >operates > > in > > > a > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > form > > > > of > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > Kulik > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > this > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > native > > > > is > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house >and > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > axis > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > relating > > > to > > > > > job and business. > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga >is > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and >has > > > to > > > > go > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > illegitimate > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > has > > > > the > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh >house > > > this > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > There > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > afflicted > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. >In > > > this > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There >are > > > > also > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > in > > > > the > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems >on > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially >it > > > has > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > can > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > marital > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > enemies. > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. >The > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth >house > > > the > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > travels > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also >arise > > > from > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > half > > > > of > > > > > their life. > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > are > > > > may > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to >confer > > > > gains > > > > > too. > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > >~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Dear Rituji What is the remedy for KSY. Regds Jugal On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 Ritu Lalit wrote : > > >Dear Kad, > >No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I hate >the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some >unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers are >here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such >people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a >practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a lot > from him. > >My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have >suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them >some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them >understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my favourite >saying is and will always be > >"Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who >has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our >difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. > >Ritu > >, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> >wrote: > > > > Dear Ritu, > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > it personally. > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > his problem is much more important too! > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... >Even > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to >calm > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which >is > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their >application > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever >a > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta >and > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? >Don't > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > go > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is >so > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > up > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question >of > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > the > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > , "kadrudra" ><kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. >Can > > > you > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > read > > > it > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > coincide > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know >the 'source' > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > serpent > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep >as > > it > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > in > > > > text). > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you >are > > > not > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > yours > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing >so > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., >the > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart >is > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > Ketu > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure >that > > > all > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one >planet > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. >do > > > not > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > and > > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which >arises > > > is > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power >to > > > give > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > Generally > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd >house > > > > this > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > many > > > > ups > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They >are > > > also > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > fourth > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > by > > > > law > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga >operates > > in > > > a > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > form > > > > of > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > Kulik > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > this > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > native > > > > is > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house >and > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > axis > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > relating > > > to > > > > > job and business. > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga >is > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and >has > > > to > > > > go > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > illegitimate > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > has > > > > the > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh >house > > > this > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > There > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > afflicted > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. >In > > > this > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There >are > > > > also > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > in > > > > the > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems >on > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially >it > > > has > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > can > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > marital > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > enemies. > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. >The > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth >house > > > the > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > travels > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also >arise > > > from > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > half > > > > of > > > > > their life. > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > are > > > > may > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to >confer > > > > gains > > > > > too. > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > >~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2005 Report Share Posted February 27, 2005 Dear Rituji What is the remedy for KSY. Regds Jugal On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 Ritu Lalit wrote : > > >Dear Kad, > >No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I hate >the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some >unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers are >here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such >people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a >practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a lot > from him. > >My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have >suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them >some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them >understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my favourite >saying is and will always be > >"Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who >has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our >difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. > >Ritu > >, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> >wrote: > > > > Dear Ritu, > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > it personally. > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > his problem is much more important too! > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... >Even > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to >calm > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which >is > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their >application > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever >a > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta >and > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? >Don't > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > go > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is >so > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > up > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question >of > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > the > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > , "kadrudra" ><kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. >Can > > > you > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > read > > > it > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > coincide > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know >the 'source' > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > serpent > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep >as > > it > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > in > > > > text). > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you >are > > > not > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > yours > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing >so > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., >the > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart >is > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > Ketu > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure >that > > > all > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one >planet > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. >do > > > not > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > and > > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which >arises > > > is > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power >to > > > give > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > Generally > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd >house > > > > this > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > many > > > > ups > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They >are > > > also > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > fourth > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > by > > > > law > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga >operates > > in > > > a > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > form > > > > of > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > Kulik > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > this > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > native > > > > is > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house >and > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > axis > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > relating > > > to > > > > > job and business. > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga >is > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and >has > > > to > > > > go > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > illegitimate > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > has > > > > the > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh >house > > > this > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > There > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > afflicted > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. >In > > > this > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There >are > > > > also > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > in > > > > the > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems >on > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially >it > > > has > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > can > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > marital > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > enemies. > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. >The > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth >house > > > the > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > travels > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also >arise > > > from > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > half > > > > of > > > > > their life. > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > are > > > > may > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to >confer > > > > gains > > > > > too. > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > >~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Hi, Since i am having KSY - in First house Ketu and at 7th house Raghu and all other planerts are in with in raghu and ketu in left side of chart. i am facing so difficult in my marriage life for my no child. please give me proper remedy for KSY. my date of bith - 05th april 1973 time - 11.00 place - chennai (madras) please help........ regards. chandra R jugal joshi <jjugal wrote: Dear Rituji What is the remedy for KSY. Regds Jugal On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 Ritu Lalit wrote : > > >Dear Kad, > >No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I hate >the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some >unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers are >here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such >people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a >practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a lot > from him. > >My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have >suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them >some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them >understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my favourite >saying is and will always be > >"Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who >has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our >difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. > >Ritu > >, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> >wrote: > > > > Dear Ritu, > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > it personally. > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > his problem is much more important too! > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... >Even > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to >calm > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which >is > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their >application > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever >a > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta >and > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? >Don't > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > go > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is >so > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > up > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question >of > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > the > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > , "kadrudra" ><kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. >Can > > > you > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > read > > > it > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > coincide > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know >the 'source' > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > serpent > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep >as > > it > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > in > > > > text). > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you >are > > > not > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > yours > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing >so > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., >the > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart >is > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > Ketu > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure >that > > > all > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one >planet > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. >do > > > not > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > and > > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which >arises > > > is > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power >to > > > give > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > Generally > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd >house > > > > this > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > many > > > > ups > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They >are > > > also > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > fourth > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > by > > > > law > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga >operates > > in > > > a > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > form > > > > of > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > Kulik > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > this > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > native > > > > is > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house >and > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > axis > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > relating > > > to > > > > > job and business. > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga >is > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and >has > > > to > > > > go > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > illegitimate > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > has > > > > the > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh >house > > > this > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > There > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > afflicted > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. >In > > > this > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There >are > > > > also > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > in > > > > the > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems >on > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially >it > > > has > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > can > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > marital > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > enemies. > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. >The > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth >house > > > the > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > travels > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also >arise > > > from > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > half > > > > of > > > > > their life. > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > are > > > > may > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to >confer > > > > gains > > > > > too. > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > >~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > Links > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Sports - Sign up for Fantasy Baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 Dear Sree Latha ji and others, What a fantastic analysis of the remedial measures.Some times the side benifite overweigh the realities and get enticed to it and forget the real cause. the desired "benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness" The qucik fixes approach may atleast alla some apprehensions but as a real a nd true shamaan is to get the native in to basics of Astro approaches and make him realise importance of karma. Remedy what we suggest and adivice is only to change the path from the sweetness but to a bitter reality that can really root out the evils. The remedial approach therefore has to be made as a core philosophy just not for the evils and bad but also for all the sweetness showered on the native krishnan "V. Sreelatha" <venkatarama_sastry wrote: Dear Krishnan Ji and Kad Ji, Your interesting converstion reminded me of a story that a great saint - I believe it was Ramakrishna Paramahamsa - once told. A little child may be sick, but he will still refuse to take the medicine because it tastes bitter. The wise mother then mixes some sugar into the medicine, and the child drinks it happily for the sweet flavor, totally oblivious to the fact that the true purpose of the medicine is to cure his illness. Similarly, the ultimate purpose of all prayers are to cure the illness of our souls, so that we are merged back into the Paramatma, but, silly children that we are, we don't want to make that effort. So, the wise Mother gives worldly benefits too, to entice her children to pray to Her, even though the true value of prayer is to bestow the ultimate bliss of Moksha. The astrological remedies hold a similar value - the poojas and mantras recommended will give worldly pleasures as a side benefit, but the true benefit is to bring the soul to God. Of course, most of the astrologers recommend remedies other than poojas and mantras too. When someone is a professional astrologer, they have to offer remedies that their clients will pay for, and actually obtain some benefit from. A sincere astrolger will probably offer the remedy of appropriate austerities, but in this day and age of quick fixes, how many clients want to implement such advice? Most of them want something easier and quicker, and hence the common remedies of yantras, gemstones, paying someone to perform poojas or yajnas etc. In that case, what you say is totally true - the desired benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness. A quick fix is like cough syrup to supress coughing for a while, whereas sincere faith is like penicillin that actually cures the lung infection that is causing the cough. V. Sreelatha , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear KAD ji, > A very interesting aspect of the discussion is about:"we remain materialistic by just getting > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple" > I would only like to add whether KSY or no KSY in the chart,the native with some spirtual approach gets less bothered about planetary positions and indulges in prayers regularly and all doshas in the chart due to his 5th or 9th houses are addressed.The question of materialistic approach arises in any individual if the sign raising is also materialistic.For this some how i feel all lagnas involving airy signs(ascdt/moon sign) drive the native to materialistic approaches.The order of drive is 7,3rd and 11th signs and also depends on the influence of mars. > The remedial measures if only for specific purpose of material gains,then the roots are to be tackled.Somehow progression of life for anybody certainly invlove the order as already suggested and approved by psychologists. > We as the people serving cause to society are well placed to harmonise various issues and bring realisation to the people.In this regard material outlook and remedial measures as required have to be viewed. > krishnan > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > Dear Ritu, > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > it personally. > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > his problem is much more important too! > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... Even > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to calm > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which is > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their application > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever a > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta and > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? Don't > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > yours > KAD > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > go > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is so > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > up > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question of > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > the > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > Ritu > > > > , "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. Can > > you > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > read > > it > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > coincide > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know the 'source' > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > serpent > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep as > it > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro-degradable > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > in > > > text). > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you are > > not > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing so > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., the > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > formed. > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart is > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > Ketu > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure that > > all > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one planet > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. do > > not > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > and > > > the > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which arises > > is > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > Kaalsarp > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power to > > give > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > Generally > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd house > > > this > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > many > > > ups > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They are > > also > > > > short tempered. > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > fourth > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > by > > > law > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga operates > in > > a > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > form > > > of > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > Kulik > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > this > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > native > > > is > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house and > > the > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > axis > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > relating > > to > > > > job and business. > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga is > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and has > > to > > > go > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > illegitimate > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > has > > > the > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh house > > this > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > There > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > afflicted > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. In > > this > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There are > > > also > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > in > > > the > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems on > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially it > > has > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > this > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > can > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > marital > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > this > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > enemies. > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. The > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth house > > the > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > travels > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also arise > > from > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > half > > > of > > > > their life. > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > this > > > yoga > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > are > > > may > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to confer > > > gains > > > > too. > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > Kaalsarp > > > > Yoga. > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2005 Report Share Posted February 28, 2005 awesome essay KAD, my appreciation Soumit kadrudra <kadrudra wrote: Dear All, As rightly noted by many, the remedial measures are like medicines, which may be bitter often. There are many methods to make them taste sweeter or look better but the patient has to REALISE what is that being given to him and for what. In case of children, as Mrs.Srilatha says, mother makes medicine sweeter. But when child grows to an adult with time, the person must recognize that really medicine is bitter but makes the person better! But the current problem is somewhat like giving medicine to any person, even when he does not show the specific symptoms of a disease, which obviously is unnecessary! It is a well known fact that experiences in materialism(BHOGA) lead to spiritualism(ADHYATMA) which end at salvation(MOKSHA). And that is why Moksha is the 4th Purushartha after Dharma,Artha and Kaama. The aim of Jyotisha would be to guide a person through all the three to attain the Moksha. Simply, a remedy must make one 'heal' himself and not to just be involved in performing pooja, homa etc on larger and larger scales! If a pooja or homa or yantra/mantra make one 'realise' that they are aids to make him HEAL himself and give him mental satisfaction, then certainly they can be performed. Appearance of 'fever' must be clearly told to the patient as the medicine setting the system right and any external aid is to subside the 'feeling' of hotness and real medicine to root cause lies within the person! Otherwise, whenever there is a fever, not only for him but for anybody, PARACETAMOL tablet becomes the remedy! Next step would be self medication as anyone can expect! And THAT is what I fear as a MARAKA for the Jyotisha, keeping the materialism cyclic, not gaining the escape velocity! yours humbly KAD , vattem krishnan <bursar_99> wrote: > Dear Sree Latha ji and others, > What a fantastic analysis of the remedial measures.Some times the side benifite overweigh the realities and get enticed to it and forget the real cause. > the desired "benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms > subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness" > The qucik fixes approach may atleast alla some apprehensions but as a real a nd true shamaan is to get the native in to basics of Astro approaches and make him realise importance of karma. > Remedy what we suggest and adivice is only to change the path from the sweetness but to a bitter reality that can really root out the evils. > The remedial approach therefore has to be made as a core philosophy just not for the evils and bad but also for all the sweetness showered on the native > krishnan > > "V. Sreelatha" <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > Dear Krishnan Ji and Kad Ji, > > Your interesting converstion reminded me of a story that a great > saint - I believe it was Ramakrishna Paramahamsa - once told. A > little child may be sick, but he will still refuse to take the > medicine because it tastes bitter. The wise mother then mixes some > sugar into the medicine, and the child drinks it happily for the > sweet flavor, totally oblivious to the fact that the true purpose of > the medicine is to cure his illness. Similarly, the ultimate purpose > of all prayers are to cure the illness of our souls, so that we are > merged back into the Paramatma, but, silly children that we are, we > don't want to make that effort. So, the wise Mother gives worldly > benefits too, to entice her children to pray to Her, even though the > true value of prayer is to bestow the ultimate bliss of Moksha. > > The astrological remedies hold a similar value - the poojas and > mantras recommended will give worldly pleasures as a side benefit, > but the true benefit is to bring the soul to God. > > Of course, most of the astrologers recommend remedies other than > poojas and mantras too. When someone is a professional astrologer, > they have to offer remedies that their clients will pay for, and > actually obtain some benefit from. A sincere astrolger will probably > offer the remedy of appropriate austerities, but in this day and age > of quick fixes, how many clients want to implement such advice? Most > of them want something easier and quicker, and hence the common > remedies of yantras, gemstones, paying someone to perform poojas or > yajnas etc. In that case, what you say is totally true - the desired > benefit may be acquired, but these remedies only make the symptoms > subside for a while, and not remove the root cause of the illness. A > quick fix is like cough syrup to supress coughing for a while, > whereas sincere faith is like penicillin that actually cures the lung > infection that is causing the cough. > > V. Sreelatha > > > , vattem krishnan > <bursar_99> wrote: > > Dear KAD ji, > > A very interesting aspect of the discussion is about:"we remain > materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple" > > I would only like to add whether KSY or no KSY in the chart,the > native with some spirtual approach gets less bothered about planetary > positions and indulges in prayers regularly and all doshas in the > chart due to his 5th or 9th houses are addressed.The question of > materialistic approach arises in any individual if the sign raising > is also materialistic.For this some how i feel all lagnas involving > airy signs(ascdt/moon sign) drive the native to materialistic > approaches.The order of drive is 7,3rd and 11th signs and also > depends on the influence of mars. > > The remedial measures if only for specific purpose of material > gains,then the roots are to be tackled.Somehow progression of life > for anybody certainly invlove the order as already suggested and > approved by psychologists. > > We as the people serving cause to society are well placed to > harmonise various issues and bring realisation to the people.In this > regard material outlook and remedial measures as required have to be > viewed. > > krishnan > > > > kadrudra <kadrudra> wrote: > > > > Dear Ritu, > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > it personally. > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > his problem is much more important too! > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... > Even > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to > calm > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka...(which > is > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their > application > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever > a > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta > and > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? > Don't > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest-scream. > > > > yours > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > go > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is > so > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > up > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question > of > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > the > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > <kadrudra> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. > Can > > > you > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > read > > > it > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > coincide > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know > the 'source' > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > serpent > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep > as > > it > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro- degradable > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > in > > > > text). > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you > are > > > not > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > yours > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing > so > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., > the > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > formed. > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart > is > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > Ketu > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure > that > > > all > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one > planet > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. > do > > > not > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > and > > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which > arises > > > is > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power > to > > > give > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > Generally > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd > house > > > > this > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > many > > > > ups > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They > are > > > also > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > fourth > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > by > > > > law > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga > operates > > in > > > a > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > form > > > > of > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > Kulik > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > this > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > native > > > > is > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house > and > > > the > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > axis > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > relating > > > to > > > > > job and business. > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga > is > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and > has > > > to > > > > go > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > illegitimate > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > has > > > > the > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh > house > > > this > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > There > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > afflicted > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. > In > > > this > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There > are > > > > also > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > in > > > > the > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems > on > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially > it > > > has > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > can > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > marital > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > this > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > enemies. > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. > The > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth > house > > > the > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > travels > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also > arise > > > from > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > half > > > > of > > > > > their life. > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > this > > > > yoga > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > are > > > > may > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to > confer > > > > gains > > > > > too. > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > Links > > > > > > / > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > > Sponsor > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / soumit guha java_sgt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2005 Report Share Posted March 1, 2005 hello ritu ji, In astrology no body is bad or good to pass any judgement.even some of the so called malefics even like ketu have given a big boost and changed the course of life.for that matter rahu is not an exception. probably we all judge good and bad as we experience and feel ourselves(may be the targets we have for our benifits mislead us) and pass judgements and resort to shanti poojas krishnan Ritu Lalit <ritulalit wrote: There are priests who perform Kaal Sarp poojan ( which can be expensive ), but I feel that true faith and humility in the person along with Mahamrityunjay jaap is very helpful. Kaal Sarp is not all bad ..... a lot of sucessful people have such configuration. It is not the bad boy of Jyotish as it is made out to be. Ritu , "jugal joshi" <jjugal@r...> wrote: > > > > Dear Rituji > > What is the remedy for KSY. > > Regds > > Jugal > > > > > On Mon, 28 Feb 2005 Ritu Lalit wrote : > > > > > >Dear Kad, > > > >No offense given and none taken, believe me !!! As a person, I hate > >the corruption that has come into the system, u know, due to some > >unscrupulous persons ... leading to the concept that astrologers are > >here to fleece the believers. KSY is ripe hunting grounds for such > >people. This list was compiled by my paternal uncle who was a > >practising (full time) astrologer and is no more now. I learnt a lot > > from him. > > > >My intention of posting the list was just to help people who have > >suffered, and are suffering due to malefic planets. It gives them > >some strength to overcome the bad times, and also help them > >understand what is happening. In the ultimate analysis, my favourite > >saying is and will always be > > > >"Astrology is just a path to understand .... it is the Almighty who > >has given this life and it is in His hands to help us through our > >difficult times. No Upaya can help unless He wills it. > > > >Ritu > > > >, "kadrudra" <kadrudra> > >wrote: > > > > > > Dear Ritu, > > > I am addressing the 'remedy astrologers' through you; so don't take > > > it personally. > > > > > > Surely, helping the needy is the prime factor but reason given for > > > his problem is much more important too! > > > Just imagine a physician analysing one's fever as 'due to cold' > > > or 'due to cancerous growth' or asking the patient > > > to undergo a number of scanning, x-ray, bone marrow test etc.... > >Even > > > just by hearing it from a doctor, the patient > > > is half dead mentally! If at last he gets a high sounding name for > > > his ailments like - 'pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis' > > > he is already dead, before he gets medicine or doctor's advice! > > > > > > Same is the case with Kaalasarpa Yoga; A witty astrologer has to > >calm > > > down the NEEDY because he NEEDS peace of mind or > > > relaxation. Naming KSY with Ananta, Takshaka, KaarkoTaka... (which > >is > > > taught in no classical school) just makes him worry! > > > I am not disputing the schools of thought but about their > >application > > > in correct way and in correct area. I have great respect > > > for your Guru and his teachings, whoever he is but if they are > > > supporting a social evil, deteriorating classical jyotisha, > > > they need to be checked immediately. About KSY - classical texts > > > definitely say about its effects wrt a state/ country and > > > NEVER for an individual and I believe in Kaliyuga atleast no astro > > > dictum can be framed by anyone because such persons do > > > not exist now; those days are GONE and that is the truth. Whatever > >a > > > person 're-searches' in astrology, it is just RE Searching! > > > All astrologers are struggling to digest the existing astro dicta > >and > > > apply them to get results! why should one add un-necessary > > > details or one's own hypothesis to the pool? Do you think it helps? > > > > > > Do you think KSY etc yogas exist in a chart to get Shanti done? > >Don't > > > you think we remain materialistic by just getting > > > a remedial Shanti pooja done? The concept of remedy is simple; If > > > there is a fever, there is something wrong with the patient > > > and by fever-medicine, you are not curing the root cause but > > > subsiding his ailments. The same fever appears after sometime! > > > > > > Hope my words have some meaning and do not become a forest- scream. > > > > > > yours > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > This was definitely taught to me by a Guru and different remedies > > > > were also prescribed. There are so many schools of thought, some > > > go > > > > by the belief that there is no such thing as Kaal Sarp (which is > >so > > > > difficult to swallow for people who are suffering) and some which > > > > prescribe the most expensive of Poojas (I believe some poojas run > > > up > > > > an expense of Rs.25000/- also !!!). > > > > > > > > As there are different schools of Jyotish, it is all a question > >of > > > > helping a person through his difficult time - which is I believe > > > the > > > > matter of prime importance here, not the schools of thought. > > > > > > > > Ritu > > > > > > > > , "kadrudra" > ><kadrudra> > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear friend, > > > > > This is not to offend anybody, but to confirm the true facts. > >Can > > > > you > > > > > please give me the 'authoritative' source from which > > > > > you collected these 'KINDS' of KSY? Please do not tell me you > > > read > > > > it > > > > > somewhere or heard from somebody or got it from a > > > > > Guru you believe in. All teachings of all teachers may not > > > coincide > > > > > but I fear KSY has no kinds, neither requires any Shanti. > > > > > By the way, there is no mention of even Rahu-Kethu in many > > > > > classicals, especially in Yogadhyaya. I want to know > >the 'source' > > > > > from which all these Nagas slipped into KSY(Nava Naaga or 9 > > > serpent > > > > > kings have become 12 here according number of bhavas!..bravo!) > > > > > If it is really from an authentic classical text, let us keep > >as > > > it > > > > > is! Otherwise, I am dead against dumping these astro- degradable > > > > > material and spreading it. Already 50 % or more of present > > > > > astrological idea is mixed up with these things, with an excuse > > > > > of being mythology!(most of which are cooked up and never found > > > in > > > > > text). > > > > > > > > > > My humble request to all is - STOP spreading things which you > >are > > > > not > > > > > sure of or which have no authentic proof to support itself. > > > > > STOP KSY becoming a social evil and save original Jyotisha! > > > > > > > > > > Eager to know the source of 12 Nagas in KSY, > > > > > yours > > > > > KAD > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "Ritu Lalit" > > > > > <ritulalit@h...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > I had posted this article here some time back - and am doing > >so > > > > > again > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When all the planets are hemmed between Rahu and Ketu i.e., > >the > > > > > > moon's north node and the moon's south node Kaalsarp Yoga is > > > > > formed. > > > > > > Complete Kaalsarp yoga is formed only when half of the chart > >is > > > > > > unoccupied by planets. Even if one planet is outside the Rahu > > > > Ketu > > > > > > Axis there is no Kaalsarp Yoga. > > > > > > > > > > > > Before you do any remedies for the Kaalsarp Yoga make sure > >that > > > > all > > > > > > planets are between Rahu and Ketu. Even if there is one > >planet > > > > > > outside the Rahu Ketu axis the Kaalsarp Yoga does not exist. > >do > > > > not > > > > > > confuse Kaalsarp yoga with Nag/Naga Dosha or Karaka Dosha. > > > > > > Type of Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the first House and Ketu in the seventh house > > > and > > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the planets are left to this axis the Yoga which > >arises > > > > is > > > > > > the Anant Kalsarp Yoga. This is also called as Vipareeta > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > Yoga opposite Kaalsarp yoga. Though this yoga has the power > >to > > > > give > > > > > > windfall gains to the native, it is bad for marital life. > > > > Generally > > > > > > natives with this yoga get married late in life . > > > > > > Shankachood Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the ninth house and Ketu is in the 3rd > >house > > > > > this > > > > > > yoga operates. Natives who have this yoga in the chart have > > > many > > > > > ups > > > > > > and down in life. They have a habit of speaking lies. They > >are > > > > also > > > > > > short tempered. > > > > > > Ghatak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga arises when rahu is in tenth house and ketu in the > > > > fourth > > > > > > house.Litigation problems are common is this case. Punishment > > > by > > > > > law > > > > > > or the Government also possible. However if this yoga > >operates > > > in > > > > a > > > > > > beneficial manner then it has the power to confer the highest > > > > form > > > > > of > > > > > > political power ,special in Virgo and Leo ascendant. > > > > > > Kulik Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the second house and Ketu the eighth house > > > > Kulik > > > > > > Kaalsarp Yoga arises. This combination is bad for health. The > > > > > > probability of losses and accidents is high with natives of > > > this > > > > > > combination. This is bad for financial prosperity too. The > > > native > > > > > is > > > > > > worried on account of an insecure financial standing. > > > > > > Vasuki Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the third house and Ketu the ninth house > >and > > > > the > > > > > > rest of the planets are located to the left of the Rahu Ketu > > > axis > > > > > > this yoga is born. The native is burdened with problems > > > relating > > > > to > > > > > > job and business. > > > > > > Shankpal Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the 4th house and Ketu the 10th this yoga > >is > > > > > > Formed. The native gets trouble relating to work sphere and > >has > > > > to > > > > > go > > > > > > through stress and anxiety. Sometimes the native has an > > > > > illegitimate > > > > > > child or can be an illegitimate child. However this yoga also > > > has > > > > > the > > > > > > power of conferring high political success and windfall gains. > > > > > > Padam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the fifth house and Ketu the eleventh > >house > > > > this > > > > > > Yoga is formed. The native is worried on account of children. > > > > There > > > > > > is difficulty in getting a progeny. If the moon is also > > > afflicted > > > > > > then there is the possibility of being troubled by spirits. > >In > > > > this > > > > > > case if a native falls ill the recovery time is slow. There > >are > > > > > also > > > > > > chances of being let down by friends in this case. > > > > > > Mahapadam Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > This yoga is formed when rahu is in the 6th house and Ketu is > > > in > > > > > the > > > > > > twelfth house. The native has many enemies and has problems > >on > > > > > > account of diseases. However if this yoga acts beneficially > >it > > > > has > > > > > > the power to confer power and political success. > > > > > > Takshak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu is in the seventh house and Ketu in the first house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native has got speculative tendencies and > > > can > > > > > > lose wealth by way of wine, women and gambling. There is > > > marital > > > > > > discord in the life of the native. > > > > > > Karkotak Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eighth house and Ketu the second house > > > > this > > > > > > yoga is formed. The native is short tempered and has many > > > > enemies. > > > > > > Such a native has friendship with the anti social elements. > >The > > > > > > native does not get paternal wealth. > > > > > > Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When rahu occupies the eleventh house and ketu the fifth > >house > > > > the > > > > > > yoga which arises is the Vishdhar Kaalsarp Yoga. The native > > > > travels > > > > > > frequently and is never fixed at on place. Problems also > >arise > > > > from > > > > > > children. However these natives get some peace in the latter > > > half > > > > > of > > > > > > their life. > > > > > > Sheshnag Kaalsarp Yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > When Rahu occupies the twelfth house and ketu the 6th house > > > this > > > > > yoga > > > > > > arises. The native has problems relating to litigation. There > > > are > > > > > may > > > > > > enemies and health problems. > > > > > > The Kaalsarp Yoga is not always bad. It has the power to > >confer > > > > > gains > > > > > > too. > > > > > > All planets must be hemmed between rahu and ketu. > > > > > > Even if one planet is outside the Rahu Ketu axis there is no > > > > > Kaalsarp > > > > > > Yoga. > > > > > > Rahu equals moon's north node. Ketu equals moon's south node. > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Read only the mail you want - Mail SpamGuard. 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Guest guest Posted March 4, 2005 Report Share Posted March 4, 2005 Dear Sree Latha jee, Certainly the group under the able guidance of Shri Inder ji,KAD ji and others is doing their best. Iam grateful for those kind words to the group members.I am sure the extent of piousness in Astrology to the extent has to be maintained as I believe this is a paramparik Sastra bestowed to the Humanity.We need to maintain it's values and it's puritany irrespective of the fact we may tend to go bit a wy off in our group "Chat". In fact I take this opportunity to convey my belated thanks to Shri Nemani Gariki for his devoted work and ceaseless effort in bring out the cream and essence in his posts .Great!His posts make the needy less anxious and confident in their own determination and gives boost. Shri Nemani Gariki naa hridayapoorva abhinandanamulu. ragards Krisanan Raghunatha Rao Nemani <raon1008 wrote: Om Krishna Guru Namaste Sreelatha, Thanks for the kind word to all those knowledgable poeple helping people in need. I do respect them for their work. Please do not add my name with those as, I am a beginner in Jyotish and still struggling to understand the basic principles. Regards Raghunatha Rao , "V. Sreelatha" <venkatarama_sastry> wrote: > > Dear Inder Ji, > > Your words mean a lot to me, since I have always appreciated your > wisdom and your willingness to guide less knowledgeable people such > as myself. It is our good fortune that we have people such as > yourself, and the other generous people such as Balaji, Rohini Ji, > Krishnan Ji, Rao Ji, and many many others that post free readings, to > counter the cheating that goes on in the name of astrology. What you > people are doing is the right "remedy" since you are > performing "Nishkaama Karma" and these charitable acts bring well > being to you as well as the recepients of your kindness. > > SIncerely, > V. Sreelatha ~! LIFE MEANS STRUGGLE, THE FITTEST WINS SURVIVAL !~ / Celebrate 's 10th Birthday! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 13, 2006 Report Share Posted May 13, 2006 dear shri tripathyji I want a clarification. If in a horoscope if lagna is outside the rahu-ketu axis does the horoscope of the person is classified as kaala sarpa yoga. for eg in an individual's horoscope if lagna is Kumbha and all other planets are placed between ketu (in pisces) and rahu (in virgo). regards, k.gopu Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around SURRENDER JOYFULLY TO THE WILL OF THE ULTIMATE DIVINITY AND RELISH THE TASTE OF ABSOLUTE BLISS. Vedic astrology " on the web. Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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