Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house and not in dusthana. Because Guru is under curse, shouldn't we say that the primary curse is Brahmin curse ? Matri shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are allied curse. The primary curse does not have involvement with Lagnesha and AK but has involvement of 8th lord Surya. However, Guru and Shukra are in parivartana and hence the Kaalaatrashaapa comes into picture. Mangal is badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by Rahu and hence conjoining Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka problem. Because 8th from UL is also lorded by Shukra, even if there is a second relationship in life, it will also be troubled if Badhaka problem is not removed. I suggest the remedies given by Visti-ji. However, I do not suggest Diamond and Yellow Topaz worn at the same time as they are inimical grahas and Sanjay-ji expressly suggested not to wear gemstones of inimical grahas together. Wearing yellow Topaz will make expenses heavy as Guru's moolatrikona falls in the 12th house. The only 'good' thing about Rahu's placement in the 12th from AL is that it gives some material comforts. Budha is maraka to both first and second UL and besides Budha is 6th lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th house is in control of Rahu (vargottama and Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah and hence will negatively impact relationships if emerald is worn. Let us keep things simple. Infact, I do not suggest any of the said gemstones in the least. I prefer to have satvik remedies. I would like to know if this is first long term relationship or not as the lady has already 3 children. Each long term relationship especially with children are to be ascribed to one UL. In Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu Mahadasa will run till end of 2007. Rahu can obstruct marriage as it gives virodhargala to 7th house. Besides auspicious events in dasas and antars of paapagrahas cause problems in the long term. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================================= --- In , shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro wrote:>> ..HARE RAM.> Mr.Visti Larsen,> While this matter is being discussed on public platform so i> want to say some thing.This person must wear Diamond and Emerald not> only for marriage purpose but also to remove several obstacles in his life.> He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and 12th> house extremelly melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after Oct-2006> his marriage will take place positively.> > With Regards> Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > Visti Larsen visti wrote:> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> Capricorn lagna is correct. What is not adding up?> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com> ***> > > > > [] On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> 11 May 2006 13:14> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone> > > Dear Visti ,> > Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as > > 11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.> > can you tell mewhat i am missing.> > - > > Visti Larsen > > To: > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar> If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.> Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse involves the same.> Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed this.> There is much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).> > The first and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.> > If you think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can't approach the mother whilst eating her children.> She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.> Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is very powerful and till this date i've seen each person who has done it get into a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past couple of years.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com> ***> > > > > [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> 11 May 2006 09:12> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Nur,> > Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.> > Respectfully,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > nuranda nadiadeol wrote:> Dear Visti,> > > > I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3 children but has never been married. > > > > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.> > > > I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate marriage.> > > > Your input is much appreciate.> > > > Nur> > > Do You ?> > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > Vedic Vedic astrology Sjc Jyotish > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > To from this group, send an email to:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love cheap thrills? Enjoy PC-to-Phone calls to 30+ countries for just 2¢/min with Messenger with Voice.> Tired of spam? 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Guest guest Posted May 11, 2006 Report Share Posted May 11, 2006 Dear Nur, Namaskar. So next is third attempt. The third UL is 8th from 2nd UL and hence falls in the Dhanus Rasi lorded by Guru. Guru bears primary curse and involvement with lagna lord (Shani-Chandra parivartana) and is also involved with AK via its own exchange with Shukra. Guru is in the 5th house and problems in life start as soon as the age to bear children comes. Moreover 8th lord is conjoining. Guru is very strong being vargottama and putra-amsa yuktah. Hence no gemstone is required. Best is to worship Maahaavidya associated with marriage. Best wishes, Sourav =================================================================--- In , nuranda <nadiadeol wrote:>> Thank you all for your considered responses.> > To answer your question Sourav, the lady has been engaged 2 times, once to the father of her first child, which is a girl and will be 10 years old on Sept 27. 2006. And once to the father of her next 2 children, who are both boys, one was born on May 21, 2001 and the other one was born in early August 2005.> > Both engagements fell through and marriage never happened.> > Nur> > Sourav souravc108 wrote:> || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Dear Visti-ji, Michal, Nur and Others,> Namaskar. Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house and not in dusthana. Because Guru is under curse, shouldn't we say that the primary curse is Brahmin curse ? Matri shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are allied curse. The primary curse does not have involvement with Lagnesha and AK but has involvement of 8th lord Surya. However, Guru and Shukra are in parivartana and hence the Kaalaatrashaapa comes into picture. > Mangal is badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by Rahu and hence conjoining Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka problem. Because 8th from UL is also lorded by Shukra, even if there is a second relationship in life, it will also be troubled if Badhaka problem is not removed. I suggest the remedies given by Visti-ji. However, I do not suggest Diamond and Yellow Topaz worn at the same time as they are inimical grahas and Sanjay-ji expressly suggested not to wear gemstones of inimical grahas together. Wearing yellow Topaz will make expenses heavy as Guru's moolatrikona falls in the 12th house. The only 'good' thing about Rahu's placement in the 12th from AL is that it gives some material comforts. Budha is maraka to both first and second UL and besides Budha is 6th lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th house is in control of Rahu (vargottama and Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah and hence will negatively impact relationships if emerald is worn. Let us keep things simple.> Infact, I do not suggest any of the said gemstones in the least. I prefer to have satvik remedies. > I would like to know if this is first long term relationship or not as the lady has already 3 children. Each long term relationship especially with children are to be ascribed to one UL.> In Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu Mahadasa will run till end of 2007. Rahu can obstruct marriage as it gives virodhargala to 7th house. Besides auspicious events in dasas and antars of paapagrahas cause problems in the long term. > Best wishes,> Sourav> =================================================================> > > > --- In , shashi shekhar sharma polite_astro@ wrote:> >> > ..HARE RAM.> > Mr.Visti Larsen,> > While this matter is being discussed on public platform so i> > want to say some thing.This person must wear Diamond and Emerald not> > only for marriage purpose but also to remove several obstacles in his life.> > He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and 12th> > house extremelly melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after Oct-2006> > his marriage will take place positively.> > > > With Regards> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> > Capricorn lagna is correct. What is not adding up?> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > > > > > > > > > [] On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> > 11 May 2006 13:14> > To: > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone> > > > > > Dear Visti ,> > > > Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as > > > > 11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.> > > > can you tell mewhat i am missing.> > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM> > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone> > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar> > If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.> > Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse involves the same.> > Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed this.> > There is much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).> > > > The first and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.> > > > If you think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can't approach the mother whilst eating her children.> > She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.> > Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is very powerful and till this date i've seen each person who has done it get into a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past couple of years.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > > > > > > > > > [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> > 11 May 2006 09:12> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone> > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > Dear Nur,> > > > Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.> > > > Respectfully,> > Michal> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > nuranda nadiadeol@ wrote:> > Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3 children but has never been married. > > > > > > > > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.> > > > > > > > I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate marriage.> > > > > > > > Your input is much appreciate.> > > > > > > > Nur> > > > > > > > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > Vedic Vedic astrology Sjc Jyotish > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web.> > > > To from this group, send an email to:> > > > > > Your use of Groups is subject to the > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Love cheap thrills? 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