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Hare Krishna Hare Krishna Krishna Krishna Hare Hare|

Hare Rama Hare Rama Rama Rama Hare Hare||

 

Dear Gurus and Readers,

Can somebody tell me the mantra for Venus (lakshmi) if it is in the 12th house

from AK and hence Ishta Devata?

In other words, may I know any moksha mantra of Lakshmi which can help a person

to pursue in his spiritual path?

 

Besides that should person worship Shiva/Vishnu if that person is carrying curse

due to maternal uncle (Mercury is conjoined with more than 2 malefics)?

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks,

Rakesh

 

 

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> "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone

> Thu, 11 May 2006 00:11:49 -0700 (PDT)

>

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Nur,

>

> Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond?

> Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in

> parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it

> can come out of the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga

> karaka for Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn

> is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the

> curse.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> nuranda <nadiadeol wrote: Dear Visti,

>

> I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3

> children but has never been married.

>

> Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.

>

> I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in

> Libra, but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,

> as Saturn is her ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as

> Mercury is the 9th lord as according to a lecture I heard by Pt.

> Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to Dharma, and the Navamsa, and

> therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate marriage.

>

> Your input is much appreciate.

>

> Nur

>

>

>

>

>

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> that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

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>

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Michal

and Nur, Namaskar

If benefics

are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse

is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved

has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.

Venus is

lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry

someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse

involves the same.

Rahu who is

also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and

thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial

measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE

IMPORTANT... you both missed this.

There is

much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK

in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth... venus

in sixth from al... etc).

 

The first

and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the

kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear. Furthermore

she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi

was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra:

Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this

mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day.

She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

 

If you

think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of the

mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for

one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can’t approach the mother

whilst eating her children.

She must

offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

Never give

emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and

enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the

emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart

the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to

be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger... so

forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand –

little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is

very powerful and till this date i’ve seen each person who has done it

get into a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to

improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone

for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes

over the past couple of years.

Best

wishes,

***

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

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[] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

11 May 2006 09:12

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

12.0pt">

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]

Dear Nur,

Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond?

Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana

with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the

curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for

Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta

devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.

Respectfully,

Michal

[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

12.0pt">Dear Visti,

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3

children but has never been married.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Birth data: May

19, 1977, at 1:26am

at Langley, BC, Canada.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra,

but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord

as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to

Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate

marriage.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Your input is much appreciate.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Nur

12.0pt">

 

 

 

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Dear Visti ,

Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as

11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.

can you tell mewhat i am missing.

-

Visti Larsen

 

Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar

If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse,

their curse is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK

being involved has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level

experience.

Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt

to marry someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the

curse involves the same.

Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes

durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs

remedial measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE

MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed this.

There is much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha

lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on

sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).

 

The first and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to

break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to

be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise)

during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she

can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a

penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at

sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian

during this time.

 

If you think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of

the mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise

for one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can’t approach the mother

whilst eating her children.

She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus

and enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the

emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart

the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to

be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger...

so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand –

little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is

very powerful and till this date i’ve seen each person who has done it get into

a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve her

life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone for the exact

same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the

past couple of years.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

[] On

Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski11 May 2006 09:12To:

Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -

regarding appropriate gemstone

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Nur,Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not

a diamond? Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in

parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out

of the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also

Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka

Mars is involved in the curse.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

Dear Visti,

 

I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3 children but has

never been married.

 

Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.

 

I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but I'm

undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her ascendent

lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord as according to

a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to Dharma, and the

Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate marriage.

 

Your input is much appreciate.

 

Nur

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Srivastava,

Namaskar

Capricorn

lagna is correct. What is not adding up?

Best

wishes,

***

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[] On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga

11 May 2006 13:14

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

12.0pt">

Dear Visti ,

Nameste,I do not get the

chart you described.I get Asc as

11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of

GMT.

can you tell mewhat i am

missing.

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font-family:Arial">-

Visti Larsen

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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM

font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

12.0pt">

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Michal

and Nur, Namaskar

If benefics

are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse

is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved

has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.

Venus is

lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry

someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse involves

the same.

Rahu who is

also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and

thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial

measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE

IMPORTANT... you both missed this.

There is

much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK

in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth...

venus in sixth from al... etc).

 

The first

and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the

kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear.

Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which

Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with

the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days

reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a

Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

 

If you

think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of the

mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for

one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can’t approach the mother

whilst eating her children.

She must

offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

Never give

emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and

enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the

emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart

the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to

be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger...

so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand –

little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is

very powerful and till this date i’ve seen each person who has done it

get into a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve

her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone for the

exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes

over the past couple of years.

Best

wishes,

***

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold">

[] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

11 May 2006 09:12

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

12.0pt">

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]

Dear Nur,

Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond?

Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana

with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the

curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for

Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta

devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.

Respectfully,

Michal

[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

12.0pt">Dear Visti,

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3

children but has never been married.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Birth data: May

19, 1977, at 1:26am

at Langley, BC, Canada.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra,

but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord

as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to

Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate

marriage.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Your input is much appreciate.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Nur

12.0pt">

 

 

 

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||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Srivastava,

Namaskar

Capricorn

lagna is correct. What is not adding up?

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and

articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

 

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] On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga

11 May 2006 13:14

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

 

Dear Visti ,

Nameste,I do not get the

chart you described.I get Asc as

11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of

GMT.

can you tell mewhat i am

missing.

-

 

Visti Larsen

 

 

Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM

RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

 

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Michal

and Nur, Namaskar

If benefics

are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse

is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved

has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.

Venus is

lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry

someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse involves

the same.

Rahu who is

also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and

thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial

measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE

IMPORTANT... you both missed this.

There is

much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK

in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth...

venus in sixth from al... etc).

 

The first

and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the

kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear.

Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which

Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with

the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days

reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a

Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

 

If you

think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of the

mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for

one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can't approach the mother

whilst eating her children.

She must

offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

Never give

emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and

enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the

emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart

the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to

be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger...

so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand –

little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is

very powerful and till this date i've seen each person who has done it

get into a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve

her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone for the

exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes

over the past couple of years.

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

 

[

] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

11 May 2006 09:12

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

 

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]

Dear Nur,

Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond?

Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana

with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the

curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for

Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta

devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.

Respectfully,

Michal

[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

Dear Visti,

 

I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3

children but has never been married.

 

Birth data: May

19, 1977, at 1:26am

at Langley, BC, Canada.

 

I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra,

but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord

as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to

Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate

marriage.

 

Your input is much appreciate.

 

Nur

 

 

 

 

 

Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls.

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Srivastava, Namaskar Capricorn lagna is correct. What is not adding up? Best

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone Dear

Visti

, Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as 11 Cap23 with TZ

7 west of GMT. can you tell mewhat i am missing.

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12pt"> ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar If benefics are

exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse is

very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved

has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience. Venus

is lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to

marry someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse

involves the same. Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the ninth house,

and this causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age),

which also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga

THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed this.

'Bookman Old Style'">There is much more to this chart when you analyze the

karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing

celibacy due to aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc). The first

and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the

kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear.

Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which

Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with

the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days

reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a

Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time. If

you think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of

the mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise

for one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can’t approach the mother

whilst eating her children. She must offcourse keep the

Friday fast for Upapada. Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry, as

Mercury debilitates Venus and enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if

you need to then advise the emerald after one year of marriage is completed.

But, see that in this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the

ninth house which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the

right hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with advising the fast,

diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This

combination of remedies is very powerful and till this date i’ve seen each

person who has done it get into a good relationship after one year. Later she

can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond

and a yellow stone for the exact

same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the

past couple of years. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles

visit:

http://srigaruda.com ***

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone [ Hare

Rama Krsna ]Dear Nur,Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a

diamond? Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in

parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out

of the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also

Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka

Mars is involved in the curse.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Visti, I have a client who wishes very

much to get married. She has 3 children but has never been married. Birth

data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada. I would recommend a

fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but I'm undecided whether she

should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord as

according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to

Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate

marriage. Your input is much appreciate. Nur

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Dear Sir,

 

Your posts are so full of knowledge and learning. Does

Rahu in the ninth house always causes durbhagya? What

if Rahu is Atmakaraka and placed in 9th house? And it

being AK in debilitation/exaltation(or Taurus sign)

etc.

Regards,

SriVidya

 

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar

>

> If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house

> and involved in a

> curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured

> with this venus and Mars

> the AK being involved has made it all the more

> severe as it has become a

> soul-level experience.

>

> Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the

> curse will involve the

> attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail

> or be extremely

> difficult as the curse involves the same.

>

> Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the

> ninth house, and this

> causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45

> – natural age), which

> also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is

> forming Kala Sarpa Yoga

> THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed

> this.

>

> There is much more to this chart when you analyze

> the karaka lagna and

> arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars

> enforcing celibacy due to

> aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).

>

>

>

> The first and most important remedy for this person

> is to wear a diamond to

> break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this

> Michal but the reasoning has

> to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story

> about kurma avatara

> (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She

> must also worship

> Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om

> Kamalaatmikayai Namah.

> Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting

> this mantra for 20 rosaries

> every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon

> day. She must keep

> celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

>

>

>

> If you think this is too much for her, then ask her

> to atleast practice japa

> of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3

> rosaries every morning at

> sunrise for one year. She must still keep

> vegeterian... we can’t approach

> the mother whilst eating her children.

>

> She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

>

> Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry,

> as Mercury debilitates

> Venus and enforces seperation in the couple.

> Instead, if you need to then

> advise the emerald after one year of marriage is

> completed. But, see that in

> this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by

> Rahu in the ninth house

> which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire

> or topaz on the right

> hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with

> advising the fast,

> diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of

> Kalamalaatmika. This

> combination of remedies is very powerful and till

> this date i’ve seen each

> person who has done it get into a good relationship

> after one year. Later

> she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a

> lady who wears both the

> diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same

> reasons, and she has seen a

> lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past

> couple of years.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

> [] On

> Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

> 11 May 2006 09:12

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -

> regarding appropriate

> gemstone

>

>

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Nur,

>

> Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not

> a diamond? Venus is

> afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well

> as in parivartana with

> strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can

> come out of the curse if

> you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for

> Capricorn. Also Narayana

> should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata,

> and the Atmakaraka Mars

> is involved in the curse.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> nuranda <nadiadeol wrote:

>

> Dear Visti,

>

>

>

> I have a client who wishes very much to get married.

> She has 3 children but

> has never been married.

>

>

>

> Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC,

> Canada.

>

>

>

> I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her

> UL is in Libra, but I'm

> undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,

> as Saturn is her

> ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as

> Mercury is the 9th lord as

> according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath

> the 9th lord is related to

> Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone

> be worn to precipitate

> marriage.

>

>

>

> Your input is much appreciate.

>

>

>

> Nur

>

>

>

> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

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> PC-to-Phone calls. Great

>

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>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> free chart reading today

>

>

>

>

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Dear SriVidya, Namaskar

Yes any of the malefics in the ninth house cause durbhagya and need to be

remedied.

Incase of rahu it has a very special conotation if its either AK, AmK or BK,

as it can make the person extremely willing to OVERCOME the durbhagya, and

send the person into intense sadhana. This is because the ninth house

destroys the negative of Rahu by being its marana karaka sthana. Same thing

happens to Saturn in Lagna or Mars in seventh.

Either way, for the malefics in ninth the following gemstones need to be

advised:

Graha - gemstone

Rahu - pokhraj (yellow topaz/yellow sapphire)

Saturn - ruby (red garnet or pink ruby for ladies)

Mars - pearl.

They must be worn on the right hand - ring finger (dharma finger).

 

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

 

 

[] On

Behalf Of SriVidya

11 May 2006 16:20

 

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone

 

Dear Sir,

 

Your posts are so full of knowledge and learning. Does

Rahu in the ninth house always causes durbhagya? What

if Rahu is Atmakaraka and placed in 9th house? And it

being AK in debilitation/exaltation(or Taurus sign)

etc.

Regards,

SriVidya

 

--- Visti Larsen <visti wrote:

 

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar

>

> If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house

> and involved in a

> curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured

> with this venus and Mars

> the AK being involved has made it all the more

> severe as it has become a

> soul-level experience.

>

> Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the

> curse will involve the

> attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail

> or be extremely

> difficult as the curse involves the same.

>

> Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the

> ninth house, and this

> causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45

> – natural age), which

> also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is

> forming Kala Sarpa Yoga

> THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed

> this.

>

> There is much more to this chart when you analyze

> the karaka lagna and

> arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars

> enforcing celibacy due to

> aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).

>

>

>

> The first and most important remedy for this person

> is to wear a diamond to

> break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this

> Michal but the reasoning has

> to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story

> about kurma avatara

> (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She

> must also worship

> Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om

> Kamalaatmikayai Namah.

> Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting

> this mantra for 20 rosaries

> every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon

> day. She must keep

> celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

>

>

>

> If you think this is too much for her, then ask her

> to atleast practice japa

> of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3

> rosaries every morning at

> sunrise for one year. She must still keep

> vegeterian... we can’t approach

> the mother whilst eating her children.

>

> She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

>

> Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry,

> as Mercury debilitates

> Venus and enforces seperation in the couple.

> Instead, if you need to then

> advise the emerald after one year of marriage is

> completed. But, see that in

> this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by

> Rahu in the ninth house

> which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire

> or topaz on the right

> hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with

> advising the fast,

> diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of

> Kalamalaatmika. This

> combination of remedies is very powerful and till

> this date i’ve seen each

> person who has done it get into a good relationship

> after one year. Later

> she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a

> lady who wears both the

> diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same

> reasons, and she has seen a

> lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past

> couple of years.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

> [] On

> Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

> 11 May 2006 09:12

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -

> regarding appropriate

> gemstone

>

>

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Nur,

>

> Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not

> a diamond? Venus is

> afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well

> as in parivartana with

> strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can

> come out of the curse if

> you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for

> Capricorn. Also Narayana

> should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata,

> and the Atmakaraka Mars

> is involved in the curse.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> nuranda <nadiadeol wrote:

>

> Dear Visti,

>

>

>

> I have a client who wishes very much to get married.

> She has 3 children but

> has never been married.

>

>

>

> Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC,

> Canada.

>

>

>

> I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her

> UL is in Libra, but I'm

> undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,

> as Saturn is her

> ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as

> Mercury is the 9th lord as

> according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath

> the 9th lord is related to

> Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone

> be worn to precipitate

> marriage.

>

>

>

> Your input is much appreciate.

>

>

>

> Nur

>

>

>

> Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> protection around

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make

> PC-to-Phone calls. Great

>

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> =39666/*http:/messenger.> rates starting

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>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> free chart reading today

>

>

>

>

=== message truncated ===

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Shashi,

Namaskar

I

disagree with this approach of merely seeing lordships and not the whole

picture. Otherwise would you have advised the Red Coral for the earlier PM –

PV Narasimha Rao? After wearing it he attained his position of PM, in an almost

impossible situation.

Chart is

given here:

 

Rao, P.V. Narasimha

Natal Chart

Date:          June 28, 1921

Time:          12:49:00 pm

Time Zone:     5:16:36 (East of GMT)

Place:         79 E 09' 00", 18 N

26' 00"

 

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wishes,

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RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for

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12.0pt">

12.0pt">

..HARE RAM.

12.0pt"> Mr.Visti Larsen,

12.0pt">

While this matter is being discussed on public platform so i

12.0pt"> want to say some thing.This person must

wear Diamond and Emerald not

12.0pt"> only for marriage purpose but also to remove several

obstacles in his life.

12.0pt"> He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the

lord of 3rd and 12th

12.0pt"> house extremelly melafic places.As far as

marriage is concern after Oct-2006

12.0pt"> his marriage will take place positively.

12.0pt">

12.0pt"> With Regards

12.0pt"> Shashi Shekhar Sharma

Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Srivastava, Namaskar

Capricorn

lagna is correct. What is not adding up?

Best

wishes,

***

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articles visit:

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11 May 2006 13:14

 

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12.0pt">

Dear Visti ,

Nameste,I do not get the

chart you described.I get Asc as

11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of

GMT.

can you tell mewhat i am

missing.

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font-family:Arial">-

Visti Larsen

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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Thursday, May 11, 2006

2:13 PM

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Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Michal

and Nur, Namaskar

If benefics

are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse

is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved

has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.

Venus is

lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry

someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse

involves the same.

Rahu who is

also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and

thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial

measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both

missed this.

There is

much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK

in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth...

venus in sixth from al... etc).

 

The first

and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the

kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear.

Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which

Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with

the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days

reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a

Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

 

If you

think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of the

mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for

one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can’t approach the mother

whilst eating her children.

She must

offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

Never give

emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and

enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the

emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart

the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to

be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger...

so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand –

little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is

very powerful and till this date i’ve seen each person who has done it

get into a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to

improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone

for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate

changes over the past couple of years.

Best

wishes,

***

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

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11 May 2006 09:12

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

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12.0pt">

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]

Dear Nur,

Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus

is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana with

strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the curse

if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn.

Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the

Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.

Respectfully,

Michal

[ Om Namo

Narayanaya ]

nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

12.0pt">Dear Visti,

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3

children but has never been married.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Birth data: May 19, 1977,

at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra,

but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord

as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to

Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate

marriage.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Your input is much appreciate.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Nur

12.0pt">

 

 

 

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Dear Visti-ji, Michal, Nur and Others,

Namaskar. Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house and

not in dusthana. Because Guru is under curse, shouldn't we say that the primary

curse is Brahmin curse ? Matri shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are allied curse. The

primary curse does not have involvement with Lagnesha and AK but has

involvement of 8th lord Surya. However, Guru and Shukra are in parivartana and

hence the Kaalaatrashaapa comes into picture.

Mangal is badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by Rahu and hence conjoining

Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka problem. Because 8th from UL is also lorded by

Shukra, even if there is a second relationship in life, it will also be troubled

if Badhaka problem is not removed. I suggest the remedies given by Visti-ji.

However, I do not suggest Diamond and Yellow Topaz worn at the same time as

they are inimical grahas and Sanjay-ji expressly suggested not to wear

gemstones of inimical grahas together. Wearing yellow Topaz will make expenses

heavy as Guru's moolatrikona falls in the 12th house. The only 'good' thing

about Rahu's placement in the 12th from AL is that it gives some material

comforts. Budha is maraka to both first and second UL and besides Budha is 6th

lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th house is in control of Rahu (vargottama and

Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah and hence will

negatively impact relationships if emerald is worn. Let us keep things simple.

Infact, I do not suggest any of the said gemstones in the least. I prefer to

have satvik remedies.

I would like to know if this is first long term relationship or not as the lady

has already 3 children. Each long term relationship especially with children

are to be ascribed to one UL.

In Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu Mahadasa will run till end of 2007. Rahu can

obstruct marriage as it gives virodhargala to 7th house. Besides auspicious

events in dasas and antars of paapagrahas cause problems in the long term.

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================

 

 

, shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro

wrote:>> .HARE RAM.> Mr.Visti Larsen,> While this matter is being discussed on

public platform so i> want to say some thing.This person must wear Diamond and

Emerald not> only for marriage purpose but also to remove several obstacles in

his life.> He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and

12th> house extremelly melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after

Oct-2006> his marriage will take place positively.> > With Regards> Shashi

Shekhar Sharma > > Visti Larsen visti wrote:> v\:*

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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Srivastava,

Namaskar> Capricorn lagna is correct. What is not adding up?> Best wishes,>

***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com>

***> > > > >

[] On Behalf Of

Swami Daivyaga> 11 May 2006 13:14> >

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone> > > Dear Visti ,> > Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I

get Asc as > > 11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.> > can you tell mewhat i am

missing.> > - > > Visti Larsen > > To:

> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM> >

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar> If benefics

are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse is

very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved has

made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.> Venus is

lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry

someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse

involves the same.> Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the ninth

house, and this causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural

age), which also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa

Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed this.> There is much more

to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK in mks from

AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth... venus in sixth

from al... etc).> > The first and most important remedy for this person is to

wear a diamond to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the

reasoning has to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma

avatara (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship

Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask

her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every

morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be

vegeterian during this time.> > If you think this is too much for her, then ask

her to atleast practice japa of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3

rosaries every morning at sunrise for one year. She must still keep

vegeterian... we can't approach the mother whilst eating her children.> She

must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.> Never give emerald to a

person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and enforces seperation

in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the emerald after one year of

marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is

caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to be remedied using a yellow

sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start

with advising the fast, diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of

Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is very powerful and till this

date i've seen each person who has done it get into a good relationship after

one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who

wears both the diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same reasons, and she

has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past couple of

years.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: >

http://srigaruda.com> ***> > > > >

[] On Behalf Of

Michal Dziwulski> 11 May 2006 09:12> >

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Nur,> > Hope you don't mind me

sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu,

but is exalted, as well as in parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house.

This means it can come out of the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga

karaka for Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta

devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.> > Respectfully,>

Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > nuranda nadiadeol wrote:> Dear Visti,>

> > > I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3 children

but has never been married. > > > > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at

Langley, BC, Canada.> > > > I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as

her UL is in Libra, but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,

as Saturn is her ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is

the 9th lord as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord

is related to Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to

precipitate marriage.> > > > Your input is much appreciate.> > > > Nur> >

> > Tired of

spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > >

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to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > ~ om tat sat

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Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian

- remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a

graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

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Dear visti,

Nameste,

kindly make following little more clear.

 

"This is because the ninth house destroys the negative of Rahu by being its

marana karaka sthana. Same thing happens to Saturn in Lagna or Mars in

seventh."

Visti Larsen

 

Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:27 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

||Hare Rama Krsna||Dear SriVidya, NamaskarYes any of the malefics in the ninth

house cause durbhagya and need to beremedied.Incase of rahu it has a very

special conotation if its either AK, AmK or BK,as it can make the person

extremely willing to OVERCOME the durbhagya, andsend the person into intense

sadhana. This is because the ninth housedestroys the negative of Rahu by being

its marana karaka sthana. Same thinghappens to Saturn in Lagna or Mars in

seventh.Either way, for the malefics in ninth the following gemstones need to

beadvised:Graha - gemstoneRahu - pokhraj (yellow

topaz/yellow sapphire)Saturn - ruby (red garnet or pink ruby for

ladies)Mars - pearl.They must be worn on the right hand - ring finger

(dharma finger).Best wishes,***Visti LarsenFor services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com***-----Original Message-----

[] OnBehalf Of

SriVidya11 May 2006 16:20Subject: RE: [Om

Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriategemstoneDear Sir,Your

posts are so full of knowledge and learning. DoesRahu in the ninth house always

causes durbhagya? Whatif Rahu is Atmakaraka and placed in 9th house? And itbeing

AK in debilitation/exaltation(or Taurus sign)etc.Regards,SriVidya--- Visti

Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Michal and

Nur, Namaskar> > If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house> and

involved in a> curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured> with this

venus and Mars> the AK being involved has made it all the more> severe as it

has become a> soul-level experience.> > Venus is lording the upapada and shows

that the> curse will involve the> attempt to marry someone but this attempt

will fail> or be extremely> difficult as the curse involves the same.> > Rahu

who is also involved in the curse is in the> ninth house, and this> causes

durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45> – natural age), which> also

needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is> forming Kala Sarpa Yoga> THIS IS

ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed> this.> > There is much more to this

chart when you analyze> the karaka lagna and> arudha lagna (DK in mks from

AK... ak being mars> enforcing celibacy due to> aspect on sixth... venus in

sixth from al... etc).> > > > The first and most important remedy for this

person> is to wear a diamond to> break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on

this> Michal but the reasoning has> to be clear. Furthermore she must read the

story> about kurma avatara> (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She>

must also worship> Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om>

Kamalaatmikayai Namah.> Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting> this

mantra for 20 rosaries> every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon>

day. She must keep> celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.> > > > If you

think this is too much for her, then ask her> to atleast practice japa> of the

mantra every day and reciting it for 3> rosaries every morning at> sunrise for

one year. She must still keep> vegeterian... we can’t approach> the mother

whilst eating her children.> > She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for

Upapada.> > Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry,> as Mercury

debilitates> Venus and enforces seperation in the couple.> Instead, if you need

to then> advise the emerald after one year of marriage is> completed. But, see

that in> this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by> Rahu in the ninth

house> which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire> or topaz on the

right> hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with> advising the

fast,> diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of> Kalamalaatmika.

This> combination of remedies is very powerful and till> this date i’ve seen

each> person who has done it get into a good relationship> after one year.

Later> she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a> lady who wears both

the> diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same> reasons, and she has seen

a> lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past> couple of years.> >

Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > >

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > _____ > >

> [] On> Behalf

Of Michal Dziwulski> 11 May 2006 09:12> >

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -> regarding appropriate>

gemstone> > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Nur,> > Hope you don't mind me

sharing my thoughts. Why not> a diamond? Venus is> afflicted by Mars and

Rahu, but is exalted, as well> as in parivartana with> strong planets in the

5th house. This means it can> come out of the curse if> you activate it. It

is also yoga karaka for> Capricorn. Also Narayana> should be worshiped as

Saturn is the Ishta devata,> and the Atmakaraka Mars> is involved in the

curse.> > Respectfully,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:> > Dear Visti,> > > > I have a client who wishes

very much to get married.> She has 3 children but> has never been married. > >

> > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC,> Canada.> > > > I would

recommend a fast on fridays of course as her> UL is in Libra, but I'm> undecided

whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,> as Saturn is her> ascendent lord and

located in 7th, or Emerald as> Mercury is the 9th lord as> according to a

lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath> the 9th lord is related to> Dharma, and the

Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone> be worn to precipitate> marriage.> > > >

Your input is much appreciate.> > > > Nur> >

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spam? Mail has the best spam> protection around >

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Dear Srivastava-ji,

Namaskar. Karakatva of grahas in the MKS

are destroyed/weakened. This is beneficial if the graha is a paapagraha hence

its paapa-karakatva is significantly reduced in MKS. So it turns out that

paapagraha's MKS is in a sense beneficial. The lordships will suffer

invariably.

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================

, "Swami Daivyaga" <swami_rcs wrote:>>

Dear visti,> Nameste,> kindly make following little more clear.> > "This is

because the ninth house destroys the negative of Rahu by being its marana

karaka sthana. Same thing happens to Saturn in Lagna or Mars in seventh."> >

Visti Larsen > > Thursday, May 11,

2006 8:27 PM> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding

appropriate gemstone> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear SriVidya, Namaskar> Yes any

of the malefics in the ninth house cause durbhagya and need to be> remedied.>

Incase of rahu it has a very special conotation if its either AK, AmK or BK,>

as it can make the person extremely willing to OVERCOME the durbhagya, and>

send the person into intense sadhana. This is because the ninth house> destroys

the negative of Rahu by being its marana karaka sthana. Same thing> happens to

Saturn in Lagna or Mars in seventh.> Either way, for the malefics in ninth the

following gemstones need to be> advised:> Graha - gemstone> Rahu - pokhraj

(yellow topaz/yellow sapphire)> Saturn - ruby (red garnet or pink ruby for

ladies)> Mars - pearl.> They must be worn on the right hand - ring finger

(dharma finger).> > Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles

visit: > http://srigaruda.com> ***> > >

[] On> Behalf

Of SriVidya> 11 May 2006 16:20> >

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate>

gemstone> > Dear Sir,> > Your posts are so full of knowledge and learning.

Does> Rahu in the ninth house always causes durbhagya? What> if Rahu is

Atmakaraka and placed in 9th house? And it> being AK in

debilitation/exaltation(or Taurus sign)> etc.> Regards,> SriVidya> > --- Visti

Larsen visti wrote:> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Michal and Nur,

Namaskar> > > > If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house> > and

involved in a> > curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured> > with

this venus and Mars> > the AK being involved has made it all the more> > severe

as it has become a> > soul-level experience.> > > > Venus is lording the upapada

and shows that the> > curse will involve the> > attempt to marry someone but

this attempt will fail> > or be extremely> > difficult as the curse involves

the same.> > > > Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the> > ninth

house, and this> > causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45> > -

natural age), which> > also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is> >

forming Kala Sarpa Yoga> > THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed> >

this.> > > > There is much more to this chart when you analyze> > the karaka

lagna and> > arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars> > enforcing

celibacy due to> > aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).> > > > >

> > > The first and most important remedy for this person> > is to wear a

diamond to> > break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this> > Michal but the

reasoning has> > to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story> > about

kurma avatara> > (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She> > must also

worship> > Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om> > Kamalaatmikayai

Namah.> > Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting> > this mantra for 20

rosaries> > every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon> > day. She must

keep> > celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.> > > > > > > > If you

think this is too much for her, then ask her> > to atleast practice japa> > of

the mantra every day and reciting it for 3> > rosaries every morning at> >

sunrise for one year. She must still keep> > vegeterian... we can't approach> >

the mother whilst eating her children.> > > > She must offcourse keep the Friday

fast for Upapada.> > > > Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry,> >

as Mercury debilitates> > Venus and enforces seperation in the couple.> >

Instead, if you need to then> > advise the emerald after one year of marriage

is> > completed. But, see that in> > this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is

caused by> > Rahu in the ninth house> > which needs to be remedied using a

yellow sapphire> > or topaz on the right> > hand ring-finger... so forget

emerald and start with> > advising the fast,> > diamond (right hand - little

finger) and worship of> > Kalamalaatmika. This> > combination of remedies is

very powerful and till> > this date i've seen each> > person who has done it

get into a good relationship> > after one year. Later> > she can wear a topaz

to improve her life. I know a> > lady who wears both the> > diamond and a

yellow stone for the exact same> > reasons, and she has seen a> > lot of GOOD

and very fortunate changes over the past> > couple of years.> > > > Best

wishes,> > > > ***> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > > > ***> > > > _____ > >

> > > > []

On> > Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> > 11 May 2006 09:12> > To:

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen

-> > regarding appropriate> > gemstone> > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > >

Dear Nur,> > > > Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not> > a

diamond? Venus is> > afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well> > as

in parivartana with> > strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can> >

come out of the curse if> > you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for> >

Capricorn. Also Narayana> > should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata,>

> and the Atmakaraka Mars> > is involved in the curse.> > > > Respectfully,> >

Michal> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > nuranda nadiadeol wrote:> > > >

Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > I have a client who wishes very much to get married.>

> She has 3 children but> > has never been married. > > > > > > > > Birth data:

May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC,> > Canada.> > > > > > > > I would

recommend a fast on fridays of course as her> > UL is in Libra, but I'm> >

undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,> > as Saturn is her> >

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as> > Mercury is the 9th lord as>

> according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath> > the 9th lord is related

to> > Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone> > be worn to

precipitate> > marriage.> > > > > > > > Your input is much appreciate.> > > > >

> > > Nur> > > > > > Do You

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Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare> > Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try

to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the> > Great who said that the> > human

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Dear Visti Ji,

May I ask you to give little bit more

information about Ra in 9th with a special connotation, because my colleagues

has exactly Ra in 9th with Ma and Ve and his Ra is AmK? Could you recommend

any book or text about that? Is any remedy for him?

JHL chart is attached.

Sincerely yours,

Youry

wrote on 11/05/2006 07:57:54

AM:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear SriVidya, Namaskar

> Yes any of the malefics in the ninth house cause durbhagya and need

to be

> remedied.

> Incase of rahu it has a very special conotation if its either AK,

AmK or BK,

> as it can make the person extremely willing to OVERCOME the durbhagya,

and

> send the person into intense sadhana. This is because the ninth house

> destroys the negative of Rahu by being its marana karaka sthana. Same

thing

> happens to Saturn in Lagna or Mars in seventh.

> Either way, for the malefics in ninth the following gemstones need

to be

> advised:

> Graha - gemstone

> Rahu - pokhraj (yellow topaz/yellow

sapphire)

> Saturn - ruby (red garnet or pink ruby for ladies)

> Mars - pearl.

> They must be worn on the right hand - ring finger (dharma finger).

>

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> ***

>

>

> []

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> Behalf Of SriVidya

> 11 May 2006 16:20

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

> gemstone

>

> Dear Sir,

>

> Your posts are so full of knowledge and learning. Does

> Rahu in the ninth house always causes durbhagya? What

> if Rahu is Atmakaraka and placed in 9th house? And it

> being AK in debilitation/exaltation(or Taurus sign)

> etc.

> Regards,

> SriVidya

>

> --- Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

>

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar

> >

> > If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house

> > and involved in a

> > curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured

> > with this venus and Mars

> > the AK being involved has made it all the more

> > severe as it has become a

> > soul-level experience.

> >

> > Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the

> > curse will involve the

> > attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail

> > or be extremely

> > difficult as the curse involves the same.

> >

> > Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the

> > ninth house, and this

> > causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45

> > – natural age), which

> > also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is

> > forming Kala Sarpa Yoga

> > THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed

> > this.

> >

> > There is much more to this chart when you analyze

> > the karaka lagna and

> > arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars

> > enforcing celibacy due to

> > aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).

> >

> >

> >

> > The first and most important remedy for this person

> > is to wear a diamond to

> > break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this

> > Michal but the reasoning has

> > to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story

> > about kurma avatara

> > (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She

> > must also worship

> > Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om

> > Kamalaatmikayai Namah.

> > Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting

> > this mantra for 20 rosaries

> > every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon

> > day. She must keep

> > celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

> >

> >

> >

> > If you think this is too much for her, then ask her

> > to atleast practice japa

> > of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3

> > rosaries every morning at

> > sunrise for one year. She must still keep

> > vegeterian... we can’t approach

> > the mother whilst eating her children.

> >

> > She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

> >

> > Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry,

> > as Mercury debilitates

> > Venus and enforces seperation in the couple.

> > Instead, if you need to then

> > advise the emerald after one year of marriage is

> > completed. But, see that in

> > this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by

> > Rahu in the ninth house

> > which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire

> > or topaz on the right

> > hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with

> > advising the fast,

> > diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of

> > Kalamalaatmika. This

> > combination of remedies is very powerful and till

> > this date i’ve seen each

> > person who has done it get into a good relationship

> > after one year. Later

> > she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a

> > lady who wears both the

> > diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same

> > reasons, and she has seen a

> > lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past

> > couple of years.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > For services and articles visit:

> >

> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> > [] On

> > Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

> > 11 May 2006 09:12

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -

> > regarding appropriate

> > gemstone

> >

> >

> >

> > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> >

> > Dear Nur,

> >

> > Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not

> > a diamond? Venus is

> > afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well

> > as in parivartana with

> > strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can

> > come out of the curse if

> > you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for

> > Capricorn. Also Narayana

> > should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata,

> > and the Atmakaraka Mars

> > is involved in the curse.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> >

> > nuranda <nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a client who wishes very much to get married.

> > She has 3 children but

> > has never been married.

> >

> >

> >

> > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC,

> > Canada.

> >

> >

> >

> > I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her

> > UL is in Libra, but I'm

> > undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,

> > as Saturn is her

> > ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as

> > Mercury is the 9th lord as

> > according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath

> > the 9th lord is related to

> > Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone

> > be worn to precipitate

> > marriage.

> >

> >

> >

> > Your input is much appreciate.

> >

> >

> >

> > Nur

> >

> >

> >

> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam

> > protection around

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger to make

> > PC-to-Phone calls. Great

> >

> <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http:/us.rd./evt

> > =39666/*http:/messenger.> rates starting

> > at 1¢/min.

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> > Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> > Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> > Great who said that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> > animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> > free chart reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

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the

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Thank youShri Sourav,

I was off for some time, I really missed this.Thanks for informing.

I am pondering on it, if still unclear i shall bother again.

-

Sourav

 

Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:49 PM

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Srivastava-ji,

Namaskar. Visti-ji gave me this dictum in

the groups a couple of weeks ago. This is as per Sanjay-ji's teachings. The AK

tends to reject the Charakaraka graha is that graha is placed in AK's MKS from

karakalagna. For example, Mangal is AK in this case Meena is AK's position.

>From this, 7th house (Mangal's MKS) falls in Kanya rasi. So Rahu Darakaraka is

placed there and Mangal tends to reject it. Suppose, Guru is someone's AK and

so the Charakaraka which is 3rd from Guru will be rejected. This is soul -

level imcompatibility. Not intelligence level.

Best wishes,

Sourav

---------

In , "Swami Daivyaga" <swami_rcs wrote:>> Dear

visti,> Nameste,> kindly make following little more clear.> > "This is because

the ninth house destroys the negative of Rahu by being its marana karaka

sthana. Same thing happens to Saturn in Lagna or Mars in seventh."> >

Visti Larsen > > Thursday, May 11, 2006

8:27 PM> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding

appropriate gemstone> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear SriVidya, Namaskar> Yes any

of the malefics in the ninth house cause durbhagya and need to be> remedied.>

Incase of rahu it has a very special conotation if its either AK, AmK or BK,>

as it can make the person extremely willing to OVERCOME the durbhagya, and>

send the person into intense sadhana. This is because the ninth house> destroys

the negative of Rahu by being its marana karaka sthana. Same thing> happens to

Saturn in Lagna or Mars in seventh.> Either way, for the malefics in ninth the

following gemstones need to be> advised:> Graha - gemstone> Rahu - pokhraj

(yellow topaz/yellow sapphire)> Saturn - ruby (red garnet or pink ruby for

ladies)> Mars - pearl.> They must be worn on the right hand - ring finger

(dharma finger).> > Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles

visit: > http://srigaruda.com> ***> > >

[] On> Behalf

Of SriVidya> 11 May 2006 16:20> >

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate>

gemstone> > Dear Sir,> > Your posts are so full of knowledge and learning.

Does> Rahu in the ninth house always causes durbhagya? What> if Rahu is

Atmakaraka and placed in 9th house? And it> being AK in

debilitation/exaltation(or Taurus sign)> etc.> Regards,> SriVidya> > --- Visti

Larsen visti wrote:> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Michal and Nur,

Namaskar> > > > If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house> > and

involved in a> > curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured> > with

this venus and Mars> > the AK being involved has made it all the more> > severe

as it has become a> > soul-level experience.> > > > Venus is lording the upapada

and shows that the> > curse will involve the> > attempt to marry someone but

this attempt will fail> > or be extremely> > difficult as the curse involves

the same.> > > > Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the> > ninth

house, and this> > causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45> > -

natural age), which> > also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is> >

forming Kala Sarpa Yoga> > THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed> >

this.> > > > There is much more to this chart when you analyze> > the karaka

lagna and> > arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars> > enforcing

celibacy due to> > aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).> > > > >

> > > The first and most important remedy for this person> > is to wear a

diamond to> > break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this> > Michal but the

reasoning has> > to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story> > about

kurma avatara> > (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She> > must also

worship> > Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om> > Kamalaatmikayai

Namah.> > Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting> > this mantra for 20

rosaries> > every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon> > day. She must

keep> > celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.> > > > > > > > If you

think this is too much for her, then ask her> > to atleast practice japa> > of

the mantra every day and reciting it for 3> > rosaries every morning at> >

sunrise for one year. She must still keep> > vegeterian... we can't approach> >

the mother whilst eating her children.> > > > She must offcourse keep the Friday

fast for Upapada.> > > > Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry,> >

as Mercury debilitates> > Venus and enforces seperation in the couple.> >

Instead, if you need to then> > advise the emerald after one year of marriage

is> > completed. But, see that in> > this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is

caused by> > Rahu in the ninth house> > which needs to be remedied using a

yellow sapphire> > or topaz on the right> > hand ring-finger... so forget

emerald and start with> > advising the fast,> > diamond (right hand - little

finger) and worship of> > Kalamalaatmika. This> > combination of remedies is

very powerful and till> > this date i've seen each> > person who has done it

get into a good relationship> > after one year. Later> > she can wear a topaz

to improve her life. I know a> > lady who wears both the> > diamond and a

yellow stone for the exact same> > reasons, and she has seen a> > lot of GOOD

and very fortunate changes over the past> > couple of years.> > > > Best

wishes,> > > > ***> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > For services and articles visit:

> > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > > > ***> > > > _____ > >

> > > > []

On> > Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> > 11 May 2006 09:12> > To:

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen

-> > regarding appropriate> > gemstone> > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > >

Dear Nur,> > > > Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not> > a

diamond? Venus is> > afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well> > as

in parivartana with> > strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can> >

come out of the curse if> > you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for> >

Capricorn. Also Narayana> > should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata,>

> and the Atmakaraka Mars> > is involved in the curse.> > > > Respectfully,> >

Michal> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > nuranda nadiadeol wrote:> > > >

Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > I have a client who wishes very much to get married.>

> She has 3 children but> > has never been married. > > > > > > > > Birth data:

May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC,> > Canada.> > > > > > > > I would

recommend a fast on fridays of course as her> > UL is in Libra, but I'm> >

undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,> > as Saturn is her> >

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as> > Mercury is the 9th lord as>

> according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath> > the 9th lord is related

to> > Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone> > be worn to

precipitate> > marriage.> > > > > > > > Your input is much appreciate.> > > > >

> > > Nur> > > > > > Do You

?> > Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> > protection around >

> > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Talk is cheap. Use

Messenger to make> > PC-to-Phone calls. Great> >>

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http:/us.rd./evt> >

=39666/*http:/messenger.> rates starting> > at 1¢/min. > > > > ~ om tat

sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta> > Ashram. > >

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare> > Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try

to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the> > Great who said that the> > human

stomach should not become a graveyard for> > animals.> > (3) Practise charity

in thought and deed - do one> > free chart reading today > > > > > > > > > ===

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> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the

decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.>

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today >

Links> > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for

maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the

Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today > > > > Vedic Vedic astrology Sjc > Jyotish > > >

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Dear Srivastava-ji,

Namaskar. Please read message # 18521 for

the correct explanation to your question. I wrote the message below as I

misunderstood your question; now I have deleted the message below as it is not

the context.

Best wishes,

Sourav

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, "Swami Daivyaga" <swami_rcs wrote:>> Thank

youShri Sourav,> I was off for some time, I really missed this.Thanks for

informing.> I am pondering on it, if still unclear i shall bother again.> -----

Original Message ----- > Sourav > > Sent:

Thursday, May 11, 2006 9:49 PM> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen

- regarding appropriate gemstone> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > Dear

Srivastava-ji,> > Namaskar. Visti-ji gave me this dictum in the groups a couple

of weeks ago. This is as per Sanjay-ji's teachings. The AK tends to reject the

Charakaraka graha is that graha is placed in AK's MKS from karakalagna. For

example, Mangal is AK in this case Meena is AK's position. From this, 7th house

(Mangal's MKS) falls in Kanya rasi. So Rahu Darakaraka is placed there and

Mangal tends to reject it. Suppose, Guru is someone's AK and so the Charakaraka

which is 3rd from Guru will be rejected. This is soul - level imcompatibility.

Not intelligence level.> > Best wishes,> > Sourav> >

------>

, "Swami Daivyaga" swami_rcs@ wrote:> >> >

Dear visti,> > Nameste,> > kindly make following little more clear.> > > >

"This is because the ninth house destroys the negative of Rahu by being its

marana karaka sthana. Same thing happens to Saturn in Lagna or Mars in

seventh."> > > > Visti Larsen > > > >

Thursday, May 11, 2006 8:27 PM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone> > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >

Dear SriVidya, Namaskar> > Yes any of the malefics in the ninth house cause

durbhagya and need to be> > remedied.> > Incase of rahu it has a very special

conotation if its either AK, AmK or BK,> > as it can make the person extremely

willing to OVERCOME the durbhagya, and> > send the person into intense sadhana.

This is because the ninth house> > destroys the negative of Rahu by being its

marana karaka sthana. Same thing> > happens to Saturn in Lagna or Mars in

seventh.> > Either way, for the malefics in ninth the following gemstones need

to be> > advised:> > Graha - gemstone> > Rahu - pokhraj (yellow topaz/yellow

sapphire)> > Saturn - ruby (red garnet or pink ruby for ladies)> > Mars -

pearl.> > They must be worn on the right hand - ring finger (dharma finger).> >

> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > >

http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > > > > >

[] On> > Behalf

Of SriVidya> > 11 May 2006 16:20> > > >

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate> >

gemstone> > > > Dear Sir,> > > > Your posts are so full of knowledge and

learning. Does> > Rahu in the ninth house always causes durbhagya? What> > if

Rahu is Atmakaraka and placed in 9th house? And it> > being AK in

debilitation/exaltation(or Taurus sign)> > etc.> > Regards,> > SriVidya> > > >

--- Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > Dear

Michal and Nur, Namaskar> > > > > > If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or

third house> > > and involved in a> > > curse, their curse is very severe. This

has occured> > > with this venus and Mars> > > the AK being involved has made it

all the more> > > severe as it has become a> > > soul-level experience.> > > > >

> Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the> > > curse will involve the> >

> attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail> > > or be extremely> > >

difficult as the curse involves the same.> > > > > > Rahu who is also involved

in the curse is in the> > > ninth house, and this> > > causes durbhagya and

thus delay of marriage (upto 45> > > - natural age), which> > > also needs

remedial measures. Being that Rahu is> > > forming Kala Sarpa Yoga> > > THIS IS

ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed> > > this.> > > > > > There is much

more to this chart when you analyze> > > the karaka lagna and> > > arudha lagna

(DK in mks from AK... ak being mars> > > enforcing celibacy due to> > > aspect

on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).> > > > > > > > > > > > The first

and most important remedy for this person> > > is to wear a diamond to> > >

break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this> > > Michal but the reasoning

has> > > to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story> > > about kurma

avatara> > > (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She> > > must also

worship> > > Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om> > >

Kamalaatmikayai Namah.> > > Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting> >

> this mantra for 20 rosaries> > > every morning at sunrise begining from a Full

Moon> > > day. She must keep> > > celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.>

> > > > > > > > > > > If you think this is too much for her, then ask her> > >

to atleast practice japa> > > of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3> >

> rosaries every morning at> > > sunrise for one year. She must still keep> > >

vegeterian... we can't approach> > > the mother whilst eating her children.> > >

> > > She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.> > > > > > Never give

emerald to a person who wants to marry,> > > as Mercury debilitates> > > Venus

and enforces seperation in the couple.> > > Instead, if you need to then> > >

advise the emerald after one year of marriage is> > > completed. But, see that

in> > > this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by> > > Rahu in the

ninth house> > > which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire> > > or

topaz on the right> > > hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with> >

> advising the fast,> > > diamond (right hand - little finger) and worship of> >

> Kalamalaatmika. This> > > combination of remedies is very powerful and till> >

> this date i've seen each> > > person who has done it get into a good

relationship> > > after one year. Later> > > she can wear a topaz to improve

her life. I know a> > > lady who wears both the> > > diamond and a yellow stone

for the exact same> > > reasons, and she has seen a> > > lot of GOOD and very

fortunate changes over the past> > > couple of years.> > > > > > Best wishes,>

> > > > > ***> > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > For services and articles

visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > ***>

> > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > >

[] On> > > Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> > >

11 May 2006 09:12> > > > > > Re:

[Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -> > > regarding appropriate> > > gemstone> >

> > > > > > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > > > Dear Nur,> > > > > > Hope you

don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not> > > a diamond? Venus is> > >

afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well> > > as in parivartana

with> > > strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can> > > come out of

the curse if> > > you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for> > > Capricorn.

Also Narayana> > > should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata,> > > and

the Atmakaraka Mars> > > is involved in the curse.> > > > > > Respectfully,> >

> Michal> > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > > > nuranda nadiadeol@

wrote:> > > > > > Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > > > > > I have a client who wishes

very much to get married.> > > She has 3 children but> > > has never been

married. > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at

Langley, BC,> > > Canada.> > > > > > > > > > > > I would recommend a fast on

fridays of course as her> > > UL is in Libra, but I'm> > > undecided whether

she should wear a Blue Sapphire,> > > as Saturn is her> > > ascendent lord and

located in 7th, or Emerald as> > > Mercury is the 9th lord as> > > according to

a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath> > > the 9th lord is related to> > >

Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone> > > be worn to

precipitate> > > marriage.> > > > > > > > > > > > Your input is much

appreciate.> > > > > > > > > > > > Nur> > > > > >

> > > > > >

Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam> > > protection around > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Talk is cheap.

Use Messenger to make> > > PC-to-Phone calls. Great> > >> >

<http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman7/*http:/us.rd./evt> >

> =39666/*http:/messenger.> rates starting> > > at 1¢/min. > > > > > >

~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta> > >

Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare> > > Rama

Krishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the> > > Great who

said that the> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for> > >

animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one> > > free chart

reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > >

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graveyard for animals.> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart reading today > > Links> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try

to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach

should not become a graveyard for animals.> > (3) Practise charity in thought

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

Let us compare curses. How many malefics afflict Venus

compared to Moon and Jupiter?

Jupiter: Sun and

Rahu.

Moon: Sun and

Rahu.

Venus: Mars, Ketu,

Rahu.

Looks like Venus is the highest ranking cursed planet,

so by default we must choose Venus as the predominant curse.

The Parivartana is working with the curse. Due to the

curse the Khala Parivartana was activated and she went from a good situation

with nice support and excellent love life (fifth house with nice planets) to a sudden

desperate struggle (third house-parakrama) and thus the curse began.

The Badhakesh involved gives a very difficult

situation and can make astrologers bicker and get confused over the remedies...

The astrologer who has been asked should be very attentive of this. It further

shows that its not a curse of a mere mortal being as the wrath of the devas has

become prominent.

Regarding inimical gemstones, which method of

sambandha will you use? In this chart Venus and Jupiter are neutral towards

each other.

As for gemstone choices, there is alot more to

gemstones than mere lordships and just like you i have bickered with Guruji

about him advising yellow sapphire to ANY rahu in the ninth, but he sticks to

it, and so do i.

Btw. I believe this is the fourth upapada, not the

third. I sincerely doubt that she will marry unless she does something about

this kala sarpa yoga.

Here is a head breaker for you and the list regarding

gemstones. In this chart the most auspicious Gemstone is Emerald, but NOT

because it is ninth lord, but because it is in Aries.

Best wishes,

***

10.0pt;font-family:bookman">Visti Larsen

10.0pt;font-family:bookman">For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

***

 

[] On Behalf Of Sourav

11 May 2006 17:47

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

 

|| Hare

Rama Krishna ||

12.0pt">Dear Visti-ji, Michal, Nur and Others,

12.0pt">

Namaskar. Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house and not in dusthana.

Because Guru is under curse, shouldn't we say that the primary curse is Brahmin

curse ? Matri shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are allied curse. The primary curse

does not have involvement with Lagnesha and AK but has involvement of 8th lord

Surya. However, Guru and Shukra are in parivartana and hence the

Kaalaatrashaapa comes into picture.

12.0pt">Mangal is badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by Rahu and hence

conjoining Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka problem. Because 8th from UL

is also lorded by Shukra, even if there is a second relationship in life, it

will also be troubled if Badhaka problem is not removed. I suggest the remedies

given by Visti-ji. However, I do not suggest Diamond and Yellow Topaz worn at

the same time as they are inimical grahas and Sanjay-ji expressly suggested not

to wear gemstones of inimical grahas together. Wearing yellow Topaz will make

expenses heavy as Guru's moolatrikona falls in the 12th house. The only 'good'

thing about Rahu's placement in the 12th from AL is that it gives some material

comforts. Budha is maraka to both first and second UL and besides Budha is

6th lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th house is in control of Rahu (vargottama and

Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah and hence will

negatively impact relationships if emerald is worn. Let us keep things simple.

Infact, I do not suggest any of the said gemstones in the least. I prefer to

have satvik remedies.

12.0pt">I would like to know if this is first long term relationship or not as

the lady has already 3 children. Each long term relationship especially with

children are to be ascribed to one UL.

12.0pt">In Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu Mahadasa will run till end of 2007. Rahu

can obstruct marriage as it gives virodhargala to 7th house. Besides auspicious

events in dasas and antars of paapagrahas cause problems in the long term.

12.0pt">Best wishes,

12.0pt">Sourav

12.0pt">=================================================================

12.0pt">

12.0pt">

12.0pt">

, shashi shekhar sharma

<polite_astro wrote:

>

> .HARE RAM.

> Mr.Visti Larsen,

> While this matter is being discussed on public platform so i

> want to say some thing.This person must wear Diamond and Emerald not

> only for marriage purpose but also to remove several obstacles in his

life.

> He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and 12th

> house extremelly melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after

Oct-2006

> his marriage will take place positively.

>

> With Regards

> Shashi Shekhar Sharma

>

> Visti Larsen visti wrote:

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st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Srivastava, Namaskar

> Capricorn lagna is correct. What is not adding up?

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> ***

>

>

>

>

> []

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> 11 May 2006 13:14

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone

>

>

> Dear Visti ,

>

> Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as

>

> 11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.

>

> can you tell mewhat i am missing.

>

> -

>

> Visti Larsen

>

>

>

> Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone

>

>

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar

> If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a

curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars

the AK being involved has made it all the more severe as it has become a

soul-level experience.

> Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the

attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult

as the curse involves the same.

> Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this

causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age),

which also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga

THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT...

you both missed this.

> There is much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and

arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to

aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).

>

> The first and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond

to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has

to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise)

during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she

can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a

penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at

sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian

during this time.

>

> If you think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice

japa of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at

sunrise for one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can't approach the

mother whilst eating her children.

> She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

> Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates

Venus and enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then

advise the emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in

this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which

needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand

ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond

(right hand – little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This

combination of remedies is very powerful and till this date i've seen each

person who has done it get into a good relationship after one year. Later she

can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond

and a yellow stone for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD

and very fortunate changes over the past couple of years.

> Best wishes,

> ***

> Visti Larsen

> For services and articles visit:

> http://srigaruda.com

> ***

>

>

>

>

> []

On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

> 11 May 2006 09:12

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone

>

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Nur,

>

> Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus is

afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana with

strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the curse if you

activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also Narayana should be

worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in

the curse.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> nuranda nadiadeol wrote:

> Dear Visti,

>

>

>

> I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3 children

but has never been married.

>

>

>

> Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.

>

>

>

> I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but

I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord as

according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to

Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate

marriage.

>

>

>

> Your input is much appreciate.

>

>

>

> Nur

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> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

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by yourself only and the answer will be Diamond and Emerald only not

Yellow Sapphire at all. With all the good wishes

Shashi Shekhar Sharma Visti Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Shashi, Namaskar I disagree with this approach of

merely seeing lordships and not the whole picture. Otherwise would you have

advised the Red Coral for the earlier PM – PV Narasimha Rao? After wearing it

he attained his

position of PM, in an almost impossible situation. Chart is given here: Rao,

P.V. Narasimha Natal Chart

June 28, 1921 Time: 12:49:00 pm Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT)

Place: 79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For

services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com ***

[] On Behalf Of

shashi shekhar sharma11 May 2006 15:53To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -

regarding appropriate gemstone

.HARE

RAM. Mr.Visti Larsen, While this matter is

being discussed on public platform so i want to say some thing.This person

must wear Diamond and Emerald not only for marriage

purpose but also to remove several obstacles in his life. He must not wear

Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and 12th house extremelly

melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after Oct-2006 his marriage

will take place positively.

12pt"> With Regards Shashi Shekhar Sharma Visti

Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

Style'">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Srivastava, Namaskar Capricorn lagna is

correct. What is not adding up? Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services

and articles visit:

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[] On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga11 May

2006 13:14To:

Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -

regarding appropriate gemstone Dear Visti , Nameste,I do not get the

chart you described.I get Asc as

blue">11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT. can you tell mewhat i am missing.

- Visti Larsen To:

Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM Subject:

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

||Hare Rama

Krsna|| Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or

third house and involved in a curse, their curse is very severe. This has

occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved has made it all the more

severe as it has become a soul-level experience. Venus is lording the upapada

and shows that the curse will

involve the attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely

difficult as the curse involves the same. Rahu who is also involved in the

curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and thus delay of

marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial measures. Being

that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both

missed this. There is much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna

and arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being

mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al...

etc). The first and most important remedy for this person is to wear a

diamond to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the

reasoning has to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma

avatara (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship

Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask

her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every

morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep

celibacy and be vegeterian during this time. If you think this is too much

for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of the mantra every day and

reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for one year. She must

still keep vegeterian... we can’t approach the mother whilst eating her

children. She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada. Never give

emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and

enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the

emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart

the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to

be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger...

so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand –

little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is

very powerful and till this date i’ve seen each person who has done it get into

a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve her

life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone for the exact

same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very

fortunate changes over the past couple of years. Best wishes, *** Visti

Larsen For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com ***

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2006 09:12Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear

Nur,Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus is

afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in

parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of

the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also

Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka

Mars is involved in the curse.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Visti, I have a client who wishes very

much to get married. She has 3 children but has never been married. Birth

data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada. I would recommend a

fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but I'm undecided whether she

should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her ascendent lord and located in

7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord as according to a lecture I heard by

Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to Dharma, and the Navamsa, and

therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate marriage. Your input is

much appreciate. Nur

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Dear Visti-ji,

Comments below. I am hearing your lectures

intently. Thanks for them and hope you got out of that cold, you sounded like

having.

Best wishes,

Sourav

================================================================--- In

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > Dear Sourav, Namaskar> > Let us compare curses. How many malefics

afflict Venus compared to Moon and> Jupiter?> > * Jupiter: Sun and Rahu.> *

Moon: Sun and Rahu.> * Venus: Mars, Ketu, Rahu.> > Looks like Venus is the

highest ranking cursed planet, so by default we must> choose Venus as the

predominant curse.

[sourav] Going by Sanjay-ji's lecture, highest curse comes from the most sattvik

graha (per natural beneficence) and not from most hammered graha. Only one curse

is operative unless other curses are related. Shukra is undeed under a lot of

stress and here involved. See her problems started from child bearing age (5th

house) and in Shani Mooladasa with Shani involved with Chandra/Guru. I believe

the antar should be Shukra.

> > The Parivartana is working with the curse. Due to the curse the Khala>

Parivartana was activated and she went from a good situation with nice> support

and excellent love life (fifth house with nice planets) to a sudden> desperate

struggle (third house-parakrama) and thus the curse began.

[sourav]: Yes, and A7 there is not boding well. Btw, if navamsa lagna is

correct, Shukra and Mangal are together and aspecting 2nd from lagna (rasi is

Vrisabha). While I am writing this, there are sirens of ambulances and police

cars. I believe there is self correction needed and she needs to learn value of

relationship, through Motherworship.

> > The Badhakesh involved gives a very difficult situation and can make>

astrologers bicker and get confused over the remedies... The astrologer who>

has been asked should be very attentive of this. It further shows that its> not

a curse of a mere mortal being as the wrath of the devas has become> prominent.

[sourav]: I am not sure about bickering part. As a matter of principle, I like

satvik remedies more. I agree with your instruction about Mahavidya worship.

> > Regarding inimical gemstones, which method of sambandha will you use? In>

this chart Venus and Jupiter are neutral towards each other.> > As for gemstone

choices, there is alot more to gemstones than mere lordships> and just like you

i have bickered with Guruji about him advising yellow> sapphire to ANY rahu in

the ninth, but he sticks to it, and so do i.

[sourav]: This is something I do not understand. Stone of Guru will increase

satva guna. But I believe worship and prayer is a much better way and stone can

only complement it. I have a person who have the same situation and whose

expenses have increased dramatically after wearing yellow topaz.

> Btw. I believe this is the fourth upapada, not the third. I sincerely doubt>

that she will marry unless she does something about this kala sarpa yoga.

[sourav]: I have doubts too. But sincerety with Mother worship can do wonders.

> > Here is a head breaker for you and the list regarding gemstones. In this>

chart the most auspicious Gemstone is Emerald, but NOT because it is ninth>

lord, but because it is in Aries.

[sourav]: Do you mean Budha is in Maranakarakasthana and hence cannot protect

9th house lordship? Then Worship of Gauri will prove beneficial.

> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > >

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > _____ > >

[] On> Behalf

Of Sourav> 11 May 2006 17:47> > Subject:

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate> gemstone> > > >

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Dear Visti-ji, Michal, Nur and Others,> > Namaskar.

Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house> and not in dusthana. Because Guru is

under curse, shouldn't we say that the> primary curse is Brahmin curse ? Matri

shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are allied> curse. The primary curse does not have

involvement with Lagnesha and AK but> has involvement of 8th lord Surya.

However, Guru and Shukra are in> parivartana and hence the Kaalaatrashaapa

comes into picture. > > Mangal is badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by

Rahu and hence> conjoining Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka problem. Because

8th from UL> is also lorded by Shukra, even if there is a second relationship

in life, it> will also be troubled if Badhaka problem is not removed. I suggest

the> remedies given by Visti-ji. However, I do not suggest Diamond and Yellow>

Topaz worn at the same time as they are inimical grahas and Sanjay-ji>

expressly suggested not to wear gemstones of inimical grahas together.> Wearing

yellow Topaz will make expenses heavy as Guru's moolatrikona falls> in the 12th

house. The only 'good' thing about Rahu's placement in the 12th> from AL is

that it gives some material comforts. Budha is maraka to both> first and second

UL and besides Budha is 6th lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th house> is in control of

Rahu (vargottama and Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is> kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah

and hence will negatively impact relationships if> emerald is worn. Let us keep

things simple. Infact, I do not suggest any of> the said gemstones in the least.

I prefer to have satvik remedies. > > I would like to know if this is first long

term relationship or not as the> lady has already 3 children. Each long term

relationship especially with> children are to be ascribed to one UL.> > In

Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu Mahadasa will run till end of 2007. Rahu can>

obstruct marriage as it gives virodhargala to 7th house. Besides auspicious>

events in dasas and antars of paapagrahas cause problems in the long term. > >

Best wishes,> > Sourav> >

=================================================================> > > > > > >

, shashi shekhar sharma> polite_astro@

wrote:> >> > .HARE RAM.> > Mr.Visti Larsen,> > While this matter is being

discussed on public platform so i> > want to say some thing.This person must

wear Diamond and Emerald not> > only for marriage purpose but also to remove

several obstacles in his> life.> > He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any

cost.It the lord of 3rd and 12th> > house extremelly melafic places.As far as

marriage is concern after> Oct-2006> > his marriage will take place

positively.> > > > With Regards> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma > > > > Visti Larsen

visti@ wrote:> > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:*

{behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*> {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape

{behavior:url(#default#VML);}> st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } ||Hare

Rama Krsna||> > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> > Capricorn lagna is correct. What

is not adding up?> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and

articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > > > > >

> > > >

[]> On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> > 11

May 2006 13:14> > > > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate> gemstone> > > > > > Dear Visti

,> > > > Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as > > > > 11

Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.> > > > can you tell mewhat i am missing.> > > >

- > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > To:

> > > > Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM> > >

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate>

gemstone> > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar> >

If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a> curse,

their curse is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars> the AK

being involved has made it all the more severe as it has become a> soul-level

experience.> > Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the curse will

involve the> attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail or be

extremely> difficult as the curse involves the same.> > Rahu who is also

involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this> causes durbhagya and

thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which> also needs remedial

measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga> THIS IS ALL THE MORE

IMPORTANT... you both missed this.> > There is much more to this chart when you

analyze the karaka lagna and> arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars

enforcing celibacy due to> aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).>

> > > The first and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond>

to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning> has

to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara>

(tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship>

Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah.> Ask

her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries> every

morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep> celibacy and be

vegeterian during this time.> > > > If you think this is too much for her, then

ask her to atleast practice> japa of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3

rosaries every morning at> sunrise for one year. She must still keep

vegeterian... we can't approach> the mother whilst eating her children.> > She

must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.> > Never give emerald to a

person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates> Venus and enforces

seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then> advise the emerald

after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in> this chart the bad

luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house> which needs to be

remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right> hand ring-finger... so

forget emerald and start with advising the fast,> diamond (right hand – little

finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This> combination of remedies is very

powerful and till this date i've seen each> person who has done it get into a

good relationship after one year. Later> she can wear a topaz to improve her

life. I know a lady who wears both the> diamond and a yellow stone for the

exact same reasons, and she has seen a> lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes

over the past couple of years.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For

services and articles visit: > > http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > > > > >

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Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > Dear Nur,> > > > Hope you don't mind me sharing my

thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus is> afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is

exalted, as well as in parivartana with> strong planets in the 5th house. This

means it can come out of the curse if> you activate it. It is also yoga karaka

for Capricorn. Also Narayana should> be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta

devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is> involved in the curse.> > > >

Respectfully,> > Michal> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > nuranda nadiadeol@

wrote:> > Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > I have a client who wishes very much to get

married. She has 3 children> but has never been married. > > > > > > > > Birth

data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.> > > > > > > > I would

recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but> I'm undecided

whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her> ascendent lord and

located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord as> according to a

lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to> Dharma, and the

Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate> marriage.> > > > >

> > > Your input is much appreciate.> > > > > > > > Nur> > > >

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Dear Sourav,

Namaskar

Comments

below.

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wishes,

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

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|| Hare Rama Krishna

||

Dear

Visti-ji,

Comments below. I am hearing your lectures intently. Thanks for them and hope you

got out of that cold, you sounded like having.

10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] Thanx, actually it

was allergies which i usually never have, but arose due to the very sudden

weather changes here in denmark...

i’m much better now after some ayurvedic remedies. I’m glad that

you are listening to the audios. Comments below.

Best

wishes,

Sourav

================================================================

, "Visti Larsen" <visti

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Sourav, Namaskar

>

> Let us compare curses. How many malefics afflict Venus compared to Moon

and

> Jupiter?

>

> * Jupiter: Sun and Rahu.

> * Moon: Sun and Rahu.

> * Venus: Mars, Ketu, Rahu.

>

> Looks like Venus is the highest ranking cursed planet, so by default we

must

> choose Venus as the predominant curse.

[sourav]

Going by Sanjay-ji's lecture, highest curse comes from the most sattvik graha (per

natural beneficence) and not from most hammered graha. Only one curse is

operative unless other curses are related. Shukra is undeed under a lot of

stress and here involved. See her problems started from child bearing age (5th

house) and in Shani Mooladasa with Shani involved with Chandra/Guru. I

believe the antar should be Shukra.

10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] That is fine, but

the curse of venus is stronger and is the real cause of the tough experiences

due to the involvement of the AK. Remedying this is vital.

>

> The Parivartana is working with the curse. Due to the curse the Khala

> Parivartana was activated and she went from a good situation with nice

> support and excellent love life (fifth house with nice planets) to a

sudden

> desperate struggle (third house-parakrama) and thus the curse began.

[sourav]:

Yes, and A7 there is not boding well. Btw, if navamsa lagna is correct, Shukra

and Mangal are together and aspecting 2nd from lagna (rasi is Vrisabha). While

I am writing this, there are sirens of ambulances and police cars. I believe

there is self correction needed and she needs to learn value of relationship,

through Motherworship.

>

> The Badhakesh involved gives a very difficult situation and can make

> astrologers bicker and get confused over the remedies... The astrologer

who

> has been asked should be very attentive of this. It further shows that its

> not a curse of a mere mortal being as the wrath of the devas has become

> prominent.

[sourav]:

I am not sure about bickering part. As a matter of principle, I like satvik

remedies more. I agree with your instruction about Mahavidya worship.

10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] Gemstone remedies

are very important and the Rishis advised them because its not easy to go

through a sadhana and maintain that level of consciousness. So when we time and

time again put ourselves in trouble by following the fellow in the ninth house

who tells you nice stories about stealing (rahu), lying (saturn) and fighting

(mars) and how much you can gain from it, its sometimes necessary for some strong

tantric remedies to hold the native back from incurring more bad karma. Thats

why we sometimes advise gemstones... sounds like the sattvic thing to do.

>

> Regarding inimical gemstones, which method of sambandha will you use? In

> this chart Venus and Jupiter are neutral towards each other.

>

> As for gemstone choices, there is alot more to gemstones than mere

lordships

> and just like you i have bickered with Guruji about him advising yellow

> sapphire to ANY rahu in the ninth, but he sticks to it, and so do i.

[sourav]:

This is something I do not understand. Stone of Guru will increase satva guna.

But I believe worship and prayer is a much better way and stone can only

complement it. I have a person who have the same situation and whose expenses

have increased dramatically after wearing yellow topaz.

10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] Whatever happens,

the sattva guna does increase when wearing the right gemstone. Some expenses

are good expenses.

> Btw. I believe this is the fourth upapada, not the third. I sincerely

doubt

> that she will marry unless she does something about this kala sarpa yoga.

[sourav]:

I have doubts too. But sincerety with Mother worship can do wonders.

10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] Offcourse i agree

with that.

>

> Here is a head breaker for you and the list regarding gemstones. In this

> chart the most auspicious Gemstone is Emerald, but NOT because it is ninth

> lord, but because it is in Aries.

[sourav]:

Do you mean Budha is in Maranakarakasthana and hence cannot protect 9th house

lordship? Then Worship of Gauri will prove beneficial.

10.0pt;font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">[Visti] I said Mercury is

good for this chart because it is in Aries. Try again.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

>

> ***

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> Behalf Of Sourav

> 11 May 2006 17:47

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

> gemstone

>

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Visti-ji, Michal, Nur and Others,

>

> Namaskar. Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house

> and not in dusthana. Because Guru is under curse, shouldn't we say that the

> primary curse is Brahmin curse ? Matri shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are

allied

> curse. The primary curse does not have involvement with Lagnesha and AK

but

> has involvement of 8th lord Surya. However, Guru and Shukra are in

> parivartana and hence the Kaalaatrashaapa comes into picture.

>

> Mangal is badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by Rahu and hence

> conjoining Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka problem. Because 8th from UL

> is also lorded by Shukra, even if there is a second relationship in life,

it

> will also be troubled if Badhaka problem is not removed. I suggest the

> remedies given by Visti-ji. However, I do not suggest Diamond and Yellow

> Topaz worn at the same time as they are inimical grahas and Sanjay-ji

> expressly suggested not to wear gemstones of inimical grahas together.

> Wearing yellow Topaz will make expenses heavy as Guru's moolatrikona falls

> in the 12th house. The only 'good' thing about Rahu's placement in the

12th

> from AL

is that it gives some material comforts. Budha is maraka to both

> first and second UL and besides Budha is 6th lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th

house

> is in control of Rahu (vargottama and Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is

> kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah and hence will negatively impact relationships if

> emerald is worn. Let us keep things simple. Infact, I do not suggest any

of

> the said gemstones in the least. I prefer to have satvik remedies.

>

> I would like to know if this is first long term relationship or not as the

> lady has already 3 children. Each long term relationship especially with

> children are to be ascribed to one UL.

>

> In Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu Mahadasa will run till end of 2007. Rahu can

> obstruct marriage as it gives virodhargala to 7th house. Besides

auspicious

> events in dasas and antars of paapagrahas cause problems in the long term.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> =================================================================

>

>

>

>

>

>

> , shashi shekhar sharma

> polite_astro@ wrote:

> >

> > .HARE RAM.

> > Mr.Visti Larsen,

> > While this matter is being discussed on public platform so i

> > want to say some thing.This person must wear Diamond and Emerald not

> > only for marriage purpose but also to remove several obstacles in his

> life.

> > He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and

12th

> > house extremelly melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after

> Oct-2006

> > his marriage will take place positively.

> >

> > With Regards

> > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> >

> > Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:

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> > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar

> > Capricorn lagna is correct. What is not adding up?

> > Best wishes,

> > ***

> > Visti Larsen

> > For services and articles visit:

> > http://srigaruda.com

> > ***

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga

> > 11 May 2006 13:14

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding

appropriate

> gemstone

> >

> >

> > Dear Visti ,

> >

> > Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as

> >

> > 11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.

> >

> > can you tell mewhat i am missing.

> >

> > -

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> >

> >

> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM

> >

> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding

appropriate

> gemstone

> >

> >

> >

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar

> > If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in

a

> curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured with this venus and

Mars

> the AK being involved has made it all the more severe as it has become a

> soul-level experience.

> > Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve

the

> attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely

> difficult as the curse involves the same.

> > Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and

this

> causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age),

which

> also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga

> THIS IS ALL THE MORE

IMPORTANT... you both missed this.

> > There is much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna

and

> arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to

> aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).

> >

> > The first and most important remedy for this person is to wear a

diamond

> to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning

> has to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara

> (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship

> Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah.

> Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20

rosaries

> every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep

> celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

> >

> > If you think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast

practice

> japa of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning

at

> sunrise for one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can't approach

> the mother whilst eating her children.

> > She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

> > Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury

debilitates

> Venus and enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then

> advise the emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that

in

> this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house

> which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right

> hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with advising the fast,

> diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika.

This

> combination of remedies is very powerful and till this date i've seen each

> person who has done it get into a good relationship after one year. Later

> she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the

> diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a

> lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past couple of years.

> > Best wishes,

> > ***

> > Visti Larsen

> > For services and articles visit:

> > http://srigaruda.com

> > ***

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[]

> On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski

> > 11 May 2006 09:12

> >

> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding

appropriate

> gemstone

> >

> >

> > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> >

> > Dear Nur,

> >

> > Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus

is

> afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana with

> strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the curse

if

> you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also Narayana

should

> be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is

> involved in the curse.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> >

> > nuranda nadiadeol@ wrote:

> > Dear Visti,

> >

> >

> >

> > I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3

children

> but has never been married.

> >

> >

> >

> > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.

> >

> >

> >

> > I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra,

but

> I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her

> ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord

as

> according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related

to

> Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate

> marriage.

> >

> >

> >

> > Your input is much appreciate.

> >

> >

> >

> > Nur

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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> >

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> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that

the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading

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Dear Visit,

Are you recommending Mercury because of its Kalchakra placement in NE direction

governed by Ishana and that too exactly opposite to Rahu which is in SW?

Mercury is the one that is capable of blocking Rahu's karma! Would this

recommendation apply after marriage?

Choosing the curse based on number of malefics is a new learning for me, it does

sound convincing based on this chart. My learning so far was based on Sanjayji's

lecture where he suggested taking the most benefic of the planets involved in

curses.

Can you please give some clues on your taking the next relationship as fourth?

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

 

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regarding appropriate gemstone

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav, Namaskar

Let us compare curses. How many malefics afflict Venus compared to Moon and Jupiter?

Jupiter: Sun and Rahu. Moon: Sun and Rahu. Venus: Mars, Ketu, Rahu.

Looks like Venus is the highest ranking cursed planet, so by default we must

choose Venus as the predominant curse.

The Parivartana is working with the curse. Due to the curse the Khala

Parivartana was activated and she went from a good situation with nice support

and excellent love life (fifth house with nice planets) to a sudden desperate

struggle (third house-parakrama) and thus the curse began.

The Badhakesh involved gives a very difficult situation and can make astrologers

bicker and get confused over the remedies... The astrologer who has been asked

should be very attentive of this. It further shows that its not a curse of a

mere mortal being as the wrath of the devas has become prominent.

Regarding inimical gemstones, which method of sambandha will you use? In this

chart Venus and Jupiter are neutral towards each other.

As for gemstone choices, there is alot more to gemstones than mere lordships and

just like you i have bickered with Guruji about him advising yellow sapphire to

ANY rahu in the ninth, but he sticks to it, and so do i.

Btw. I believe this is the fourth upapada, not the third. I sincerely doubt that

she will marry unless she does something about this kala sarpa yoga.

Here is a head breaker for you and the list regarding gemstones. In this chart

the most auspicious Gemstone is Emerald, but NOT because it is ninth lord, but

because it is in Aries.

Best wishes,

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

 

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

Dear Visti-ji, Michal, Nur and Others,

Namaskar. Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house and

not in dusthana. Because Guru is under curse, shouldn't we say that the primary

curse is Brahmin curse ? Matri shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are allied curse. The

primary curse does not have involvement with Lagnesha and AK but has

involvement of 8th lord Surya. However, Guru and Shukra are in parivartana and

hence the Kaalaatrashaapa comes into picture.

Mangal is badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by Rahu and hence conjoining

Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka problem. Because 8th from UL is also lorded by

Shukra, even if there is a second relationship in life, it will also be troubled

if Badhaka problem is not removed. I suggest the remedies given by Visti-ji.

However, I do not suggest Diamond and Yellow Topaz worn at the same time as

they are inimical grahas and Sanjay-ji expressly suggested not to wear

gemstones of inimical grahas together. Wearing yellow Topaz will make expenses

heavy as Guru's moolatrikona falls in the 12th house. The only 'good' thing

about Rahu's placement in the 12th from AL is that it gives some material

comforts. Budha is maraka to both first and second UL and besides Budha is 6th

lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th house is in control of Rahu (vargottama and

Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah and hence will

negatively impact relationships if emerald is worn. Let us keep things simple.

Infact, I do not suggest any of the said gemstones in the least. I prefer to

have satvik remedies.

I would like to know if this is first long term relationship or not as the lady

has already 3 children. Each long term relationship especially with children

are to be ascribed to one UL.

In Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu Mahadasa will run till end of 2007. Rahu can

obstruct marriage as it gives virodhargala to 7th house. Besides auspicious

events in dasas and antars of paapagrahas cause problems in the long term.

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================

 

 

, shashi shekhar sharma <polite_astro

wrote:>> .HARE RAM.> Mr.Visti Larsen,> While this matter is being discussed on

public platform so i> want to say some thing.This person must wear Diamond and

Emerald not> only for marriage purpose but also to remove several obstacles in

his life.> He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and

12th> house extremelly melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after

Oct-2006> his marriage will take place positively.> > With Regards> Shashi

Shekhar Sharma > > Visti Larsen visti wrote:> v\:*

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{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}

st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Srivastava,

Namaskar> Capricorn lagna is correct. What is not adding up?> Best wishes,>

***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com>

***> > > > >

[] On Behalf Of

Swami Daivyaga> 11 May 2006 13:14> >

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone> > > Dear Visti ,> > Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I

get Asc as > > 11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.> > can you tell mewhat i am

missing.> > - > > Visti Larsen > > To:

> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM> >

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar> If benefics

are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse is

very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved has

made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.> Venus is

lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry

someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse

involves the same.> Rahu who is also involved in the curse is in the ninth

house, and this causes durbhagya and thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural

age), which also needs remedial measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa

Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed this.> There is much more

to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK in mks from

AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth... venus in sixth

from al... etc).> > The first and most important remedy for this person is to

wear a diamond to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the

reasoning has to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma

avatara (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship

Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask

her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every

morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be

vegeterian during this time.> > If you think this is too much for her, then ask

her to atleast practice japa of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3

rosaries every morning at sunrise for one year. She must still keep

vegeterian... we can't approach the mother whilst eating her children.> She

must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.> Never give emerald to a

person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and enforces seperation

in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the emerald after one year of

marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is

caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to be remedied using a yellow

sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start

with advising the fast, diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of

Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is very powerful and till this

date i've seen each person who has done it get into a good relationship after

one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who

wears both the diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same reasons, and she

has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past couple of

years.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: >

http://srigaruda.com> ***> > > > >

[] On Behalf Of

Michal Dziwulski> 11 May 2006 09:12> >

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Nur,> > Hope you don't mind me

sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu,

but is exalted, as well as in parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house.

This means it can come out of the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga

karaka for Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta

devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.> > Respectfully,>

Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > nuranda nadiadeol wrote:> Dear Visti,>

> > > I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3 children

but has never been married. > > > > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at

Langley, BC, Canada.> > > > I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as

her UL is in Libra, but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire,

as Saturn is her ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is

the 9th lord as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord

is related to Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to

precipitate marriage.> > > > Your input is much appreciate.> > > > Nur> >

> > Tired of

spam? Mail has the best spam protection around > >

> > > > > Talk is cheap. Use Messenger

to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1¢/min. > > > > ~ om tat sat

~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1)

Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian

- remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a

graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart reading today > > > > > > Vedic Vedic astrology Sjc

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Shashi,

Namaskar

You have

dismissed the yellow sapphire because of Jupiters 12th lordship,

however my Guruji qouted Suka Nadi regarding this and stated that in all cases

of Rahu in the ninth house, the Pokhraj must be given, otherwise the durbhagya

will prevail. I’ve given the same arguments as you have in the past.

Now this

can be either Yellow Topaz or Yellow Sapphire.

I did not

see your answer to my question regarding PV Narasimha Rao, did i cause some

confusement?

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

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articles visit:

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[] On Behalf Of

shashi shekhar sharma

11 May 2006 20:48

 

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone

12.0pt">

12.0pt">

..HARE RAM.

12.0pt"> Mr.Visti Larsen,

12.0pt">

Please do not be rigid and try to see quite openly.In fact what

12.0pt"> do you want to say i am

unable to understand.I think you are quite confused

12.0pt"> regarding this chart.Please

read again and again. I sure, you will find the answer

12.0pt"> by yourself only and

the answer will be Diamond and Emerald only not Yellow

12.0pt"> Sapphire at all.

12.0pt">

12.0pt"> With all the good wishes

12.0pt"> Shashi Shekhar Sharma

12.0pt">

Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Shashi, Namaskar

I

disagree with this approach of merely seeing lordships and not the whole

picture. Otherwise would you have advised the Red Coral for the earlier PM

– PV Narasimha Rao? After wearing it he attained his position of PM, in

an almost impossible situation.

Chart is

given here:

 

Rao, P.V. Narasimha

Natal Chart

June 28, 1921

Time:

12:49:00 pm

Time Zone:

5:16:36 (East of GMT)

Place:

79 E 09' 00", 18 N 26' 00"

 

Best

wishes,

***

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articles visit:

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Behalf Of shashi shekhar sharma

11 May 2006 15:53

 

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for

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12.0pt">

12.0pt">

..HARE RAM.

12.0pt"> Mr.Visti Larsen,

12.0pt">

While this matter is being discussed on public platform so i

12.0pt"> want to say some thing.This person must

wear Diamond and Emerald not

12.0pt"> only for marriage purpose but also to remove several

obstacles in his life.

12.0pt"> He must not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the

lord of 3rd and 12th

12.0pt"> house extremelly melafic places.As far as

marriage is concern after Oct-2006

12.0pt"> his marriage will take place positively.

12.0pt">

12.0pt"> With Regards

12.0pt"> Shashi Shekhar

Sharma

Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote:

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Srivastava, Namaskar

Capricorn

lagna is correct. What is not adding up?

Best

wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

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visit:

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11 May 2006 13:14

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

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12.0pt">

Dear Visti ,

Nameste,I do not get the

chart you described.I get Asc as

11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of

GMT.

can you tell mewhat i am

missing.

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font-family:Arial">-

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font-family:Arial;font-weight:bold">Thursday, May 11, 2006

2:13 PM

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Michal

and Nur, Namaskar

If benefics

are exalted in a dusthana or third house and involved in a curse, their curse

is very severe. This has occured with this venus and Mars the AK being involved

has made it all the more severe as it has become a soul-level experience.

Venus is

lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the attempt to marry

someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely difficult as the curse

involves the same.

Rahu who is

also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and

thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial

measures. Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE

IMPORTANT... you both missed this.

There is

much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha lagna (DK

in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on sixth...

venus in sixth from al... etc).

 

The first and

most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the kala

sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear.

Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which

Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with

the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days

reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a

Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

 

If you

think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of the

mantra every day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for

one year. She must still keep vegeterian... we can’t approach the mother

whilst eating her children.

She must

offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.

Never give

emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and

enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the

emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart

the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to

be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger...

so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond (right hand –

little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is

very powerful and till this date i’ve seen each person who has done it

get into a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to

improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone

for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate

changes over the past couple of years.

Best

wishes,

***

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit:

http://srigaruda.com

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11 May 2006 09:12

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

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[ Hare Rama Krsna ]

Dear Nur,

Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond?

Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana

with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of the

curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for

Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta

devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse.

Respectfully,

Michal

[ Om

Namo Narayanaya ]

nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote:

12.0pt">Dear Visti,

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3

children but has never been married.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Birth data: May 19, 1977,

at 1:26am at Langley,

BC,

Canada.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">I would recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra,

but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her

ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord

as according to a lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to

Dharma, and the Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate

marriage.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Your input is much appreciate.

12.0pt">

12.0pt">Nur

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windowtext;"> || Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat || Dear

Visit, Are you recommending Mercury because of its Kalchakra placement in NE

direction governed by Ishana and that too exactly opposite to Rahu which is in

SW? Mercury is the one that is capable of blocking Rahu's karma! Would this

recommendation apply after marriage? Choosing the curse based on number of

malefics is a new learning for me, it does sound convincing based on this chart.

My learning so far was based on Sanjayji's lecture where he suggested taking the

most benefic of the planets involved in curses. Can you please give some clues

on your taking the next relationship as fourth? Best

Wishes, Ramesh

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May 11, 2006 2:17 PM RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone ||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sourav,

Namaskar Let us compare curses. How many malefics afflict Venus compared to Moon

and Jupiter? Jupiter: Sun and Rahu. Moon: Sun and Rahu. Venus: Mars, Ketu,

Rahu. Looks like Venus is the highest ranking

cursed planet, so by default we must choose Venus as the predominant curse. The

Parivartana is working with the curse. Due to the curse the Khala Parivartana

was activated and she went from a good situation with nice support and

excellent love life (fifth house with nice planets) to a sudden desperate

struggle (third house-parakrama) and thus the curse began. The Badhakesh

involved gives a very difficult situation and can make astrologers bicker and

get confused over the remedies... The astrologer who has been asked should be

very attentive of this. It further shows that its not a curse of a mere mortal

being as the wrath of the devas has become prominent. Regarding inimical

gemstones, which method of sambandha will you use? In this chart Venus and

Jupiter are neutral towards each other. As for gemstone choices, there is alot

more to gemstones than mere lordships and just like you i have bickered with

Guruji about him advising yellow sapphire to ANY rahu in the ninth, but he

sticks to it, and so do i. Btw. I believe this is the fourth upapada, not the

third. I sincerely doubt that she will marry unless she does something about

this kala sarpa yoga. Here is a head breaker for you and the list regarding

gemstones. In this chart the most auspicious Gemstone is Emerald, but NOT

because it is ninth lord, but because it is in Aries. Best wishes, *** Visti

Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com ***

Tahoma;"> [] On

Behalf Of Sourav 11 May 2006 17:47

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone || Hare Rama Krishna ||

12pt;">Dear Visti-ji, Michal, Nur and Others,

Namaskar. Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house and not in dusthana. Because

Guru is under curse, shouldn't we say that the primary curse is Brahmin curse ?

Matri shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are allied curse. The primary curse does not

have involvement with Lagnesha and AK but has involvement of 8th lord Surya.

However, Guru and Shukra are in parivartana and hence the Kaalaatrashaapa comes

into picture. Mangal is badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by Rahu and

hence conjoining Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka

problem. Because 8th from UL is also lorded by Shukra, even if there is a second

relationship in life, it will also be troubled if Badhaka problem is not

removed. I suggest the remedies given by Visti-ji. However, I do not suggest

Diamond and Yellow Topaz worn at the same time as they are inimical grahas and

Sanjay-ji expressly suggested not to wear gemstones of inimical grahas

together. Wearing yellow Topaz will make expenses heavy as Guru's moolatrikona

falls in the 12th house. The only 'good' thing about Rahu's placement in the

12th from AL is that it gives some material comforts. Budha is maraka to both

first and second UL and besides Budha is 6th lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th house is

in control of Rahu (vargottama and Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is

kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah and hence will negatively impact relationships if emerald

is worn. Let us keep things simple. Infact, I do not suggest

any of the said gemstones in the least. I prefer to have satvik remedies. I

would like to know if this is first long term relationship or not as the lady

has already 3 children. Each long term relationship especially with children

are to be ascribed to one UL. In Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu Mahadasa will run

till end of 2007. Rahu can obstruct marriage as it gives virodhargala to 7th

house. Besides auspicious events in dasas and antars of paapagrahas cause

problems in the long term. Best wishes,

12pt;">Sourav =================================================================

, shashi shekhar sharma

<polite_astro wrote: > > .HARE RAM. > Mr.Visti Larsen, > While this matter

is being discussed on public platform so i >

want to say some thing.This person must wear Diamond and Emerald not > only for

marriage purpose but also to remove several obstacles in his life. > He must

not wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and 12th > house

extremelly melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after Oct-2006 > his

marriage will take place positively. > > With Regards > Shashi Shekhar Sharma

> > Visti Larsen visti wrote: > v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:*

{behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape

{behavior:url(#default#VML);} st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } ||Hare

Rama Krsna|| > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar > Capricorn lagna is correct. What is

not adding up? > Best wishes, > *** > Visti Larsen > For services and articles

visit: > http://srigaruda.com > *** > > >

> >

[] On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga > 11

May 2006 13:14 > > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone > > > Dear Visti , >

> Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as > > 11 Cap23 with

TZ 7 west of GMT. > > can you tell mewhat i am missing. > > ----- Original

Message ----- > > Visti Larsen > >

> > Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

for Visti Larsen -

regarding appropriate gemstone > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > Dear Michal and

Nur, Namaskar > If benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third house and

involved in a curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured with this

venus and Mars the AK being involved has made it all the more severe as it has

become a soul-level experience. > Venus is lording the upapada and shows that

the curse will involve the attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail

or be extremely difficult as the curse involves the same. > Rahu who is also

involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and thus

delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial measures.

Being that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you

both missed this. > There is much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka

lagna and arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy

due to aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc). > > The first and

most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the kala

sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear.

Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which

Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with

the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days

reciting this mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a

Full Moon day. She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time. > >

If you think this is too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice japa of

the mantra every day and

reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning at sunrise for one year. She must still

keep vegeterian... we can't approach the mother whilst eating her children. >

She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada. > Never give emerald to a

person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and enforces seperation

in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the emerald after one year of

marriage is completed. But, see that in this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is

caused by Rahu in the ninth house which needs to be remedied using a yellow

sapphire or topaz on the right hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start

with advising the fast, diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of

Kalamalaatmika. This combination of remedies is very powerful and till this

date i've seen each person who has done it get into a good relationship after

one year. Later she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who

wears both the diamond and a

yellow stone for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very

fortunate changes over the past couple of years. > Best wishes, > *** > Visti

Larsen > For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com > *** > > >

> >

[] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski > 11

May 2006 09:12 > > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone > > > [ Hare Rama

Krsna ] > > Dear Nur, > > Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not

a diamond? Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in

parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out of

the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for

Capricorn. Also Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and

the Atmakaraka Mars is involved in the curse. > > Respectfully, > Michal > >

[ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > nuranda nadiadeol wrote: > Dear Visti, > > >

> I have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3 children but

has never been married. > > > > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at

Langley, BC, Canada. > > > > I would recommend a fast on fridays of course

as her UL is in Libra, but I'm undecided whether she should wear a Blue

Sapphire, as Saturn is her ascendent lord and located in 7th, or Emerald as

Mercury is the 9th lord as according to a

lecture I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to Dharma, and the

Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate marriage. > > > >

Your input is much appreciate. > > > > Nur > >

> > Tired of

spam? Mail has the best spam protection around >

> > > > > > Talk is cheap. Use

Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1�/min. > > >

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Larsen <visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Shashi,

Namaskar I disagree with this approach of merely seeing lordships and not the

whole picture. Otherwise would you have advised the Red Coral for the earlier

PM – PV Narasimha Rao? After wearing it he attained his position of PM, in an

almost impossible situation. Chart is given here:

#003300">Rao, P.V. Narasimha Natal Chart June 28, 1921 Time:

12:49:00 pm Time Zone: 5:16:36 (East of GMT) Place: 79 E

09' 00", 18 N 26' 00" Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and

articles visit:

bookman">http://srigaruda.com ***

[] On Behalf Of shashi shekhar sharmaSent:

11 May 2006 15:53To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen -

regarding appropriate gemstone

.HARE RAM.

12pt"> Mr.Visti Larsen, While this matter is

being discussed on public platform so i want to say some thing.This

person must wear Diamond and Emerald not only for marriage purpose but

also to remove several obstacles in his life. He must not wear Yellow

Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and 12th house extremelly melafic

places.As far as marriage is concern after Oct-2006 his marriage will take

place positively. With

Regards Shashi Shekhar Sharma Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> wrote: ||Hare

Rama Krsna|| Dear Srivastava, Namaskar Capricorn lagna is correct. What is

not adding up? Best wishes,

*** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com

***

[] On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga11 May

2006 13:14Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone Dear Visti , Nameste,I

do not get the chart you described.I get Asc as 11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of

GMT. can you tell mewhat i am missing.

FONT-FAMILY: Arial">- Visti Larsen To:

Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate

gemstone ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar If

benefics are exalted in a dusthana or third

house and involved in a curse, their curse is very severe. This has occured with

this venus and Mars the AK being involved has made it all the more severe as it

has become a soul-level experience. Venus is lording the upapada and shows

that the curse will involve the attempt to marry someone but this attempt will

fail or be extremely difficult as the curse involves the same. Rahu who is

also involved in the curse is in the ninth house, and this causes durbhagya and

thus delay of marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which also needs remedial

measures. Being that Rahu is

forming Kala Sarpa Yoga THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you both missed this.

There is much more to this chart when you analyze the karaka lagna and arudha

lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing celibacy due to aspect on

sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).

COLOR: navy; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">The first and most important

remedy for this person is to wear a diamond to break the kala sarpa yoga...

good call on this Michal but the reasoning has to be clear. Furthermore she

must read the story about kurma avatara (tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was

born. She must also worship Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om

Kamalaatmikayai Namah. Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this

mantra for 20 rosaries every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day.

She must keep celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.

FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">If you think this is too much for her, then

ask her to atleast practice japa of the mantra every day and reciting it for 3

rosaries every morning at sunrise for one year. She must still keep

vegeterian... we can’t approach the mother whilst eating her children. She

must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada. Never give emerald to a

person who wants to marry, as Mercury debilitates Venus and enforces seperation

in the couple. Instead, if you need to then advise the emerald after one year of

marriage is completed. But, see that in

this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house which

needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right hand

ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with advising the fast, diamond

(right hand – little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This combination of

remedies is very powerful and till this date i’ve seen each person who has done

it get into a good relationship after one year. Later she can wear a topaz to

improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the diamond and a yellow stone

for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a lot of GOOD and very fortunate

changes over the past couple of years. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen

For services and articles visit:

FONT-FAMILY: bookman">http://srigaruda.com ***

[] On Behalf Of

Michal Dziwulski11 May 2006 09:12Subject:

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate gemstone [

Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Nur,Hope you don't mind me sharing my thoughts. Why not a

diamond? Venus is afflicted by Mars and Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in

parivartana with strong planets in the 5th house. This means it can come out

of the curse if you activate it. It is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also

Narayana should be worshiped as Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka

Mars is involved in the curse.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]nuranda

<nadiadeol (AT) (DOT) ca> wrote: Dear Visti, I have a client who wishes

very much to get married. She has 3 children but has never been married.

Birth data: May 19, 1977, at 1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada. I would

recommend a fast on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but I'm undecided

whether she should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her ascendent lord and

located in 7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord as according to a lecture

I heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related to Dharma, and the Navamsa,

and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate marriage.

12pt"> Your input is much appreciate. Nur

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Dear Visti-ji,

Namaskar. Budha is in Dwararasi to AL. However, if your

clue is just Budha being in Mesha, then probably I am yet to understand.

Saravali has very negative connotations of Budha in Mesha, such as

stubborn-ness, uncompromising nature, excessive attachment to sexuality etc.

This is important as Budha is 6th and 9th lord. Kindly explain.

Best wishes,

Sourav

==================================================================--- In

, "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > Dear Sourav, Namaskar> > Comments below.> > Best wishes,> > ***> >

Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > _____ > >

[] On> Behalf Of Sourav> 11 May 2006

21:23> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate> gemstone> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||>

> Dear Visti-ji,> > Comments below. I am hearing your lectures> intently.

Thanks for them and hope you got out of that cold, you sounded> like having.> >

[Visti] Thanx, actually it was allergies which i usually never have, but> arose

due to the very sudden weather changes here in denmark... i'm much> better now

after some ayurvedic remedies. I'm glad that you are listening to> the audios.

Comments below. > > Best wishes,> > Sourav> >

================================================================> --- In

, "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:> >> > ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar> > > > Let us compare curses. How many

malefics afflict Venus compared to Moon> and> > Jupiter?> > > > * Jupiter: Sun

and Rahu.> > * Moon: Sun and Rahu.> > * Venus: Mars, Ketu, Rahu.> > > > Looks

like Venus is the highest ranking cursed planet, so by default we> must> >

choose Venus as the predominant curse.> > [sourav] Going by Sanjay-ji's

lecture, highest curse comes from the most> sattvik graha (per natural

beneficence) and not from most hammered graha.> Only one curse is operative

unless other curses are related. Shukra is> undeed under a lot of stress and

here involved. See her problems started> from child bearing age (5th house) and

in Shani Mooladasa with Shani> involved with Chandra/Guru. I believe the antar

should be Shukra.> > [Visti] That is fine, but the curse of venus is stronger

and is the real> cause of the tough experiences due to the involvement of the

AK. Remedying> this is vital.> > > > > The Parivartana is working with the

curse. Due to the curse the Khala> > Parivartana was activated and she went

from a good situation with nice> > support and excellent love life (fifth house

with nice planets) to a> sudden> > desperate struggle (third house-parakrama)

and thus the curse began.> > [sourav]: Yes, and A7 there is not boding well.

Btw, if navamsa lagna is> correct, Shukra and Mangal are together and aspecting

2nd from lagna (rasi> is Vrisabha). While I am writing this, there are sirens of

ambulances and> police cars. I believe there is self correction needed and she

needs to> learn value of relationship, through Motherworship.> > > > > The

Badhakesh involved gives a very difficult situation and can make> > astrologers

bicker and get confused over the remedies... The astrologer> who> > has been

asked should be very attentive of this. It further shows that its> > not a

curse of a mere mortal being as the wrath of the devas has become> >

prominent.> > [sourav]: I am not sure about bickering part. As a matter of

principle, I> like satvik remedies more. I agree with your instruction about

Mahavidya> worship.> > [Visti] Gemstone remedies are very important and the

Rishis advised them> because its not easy to go through a sadhana and maintain

that level of> consciousness. So when we time and time again put ourselves in

trouble by> following the fellow in the ninth house who tells you nice stories

about> stealing (rahu), lying (saturn) and fighting (mars) and how much you

can> gain from it, its sometimes necessary for some strong tantric remedies to>

hold the native back from incurring more bad karma. Thats why we sometimes>

advise gemstones... sounds like the sattvic thing to do.> > > > > Regarding

inimical gemstones, which method of sambandha will you use? In> > this chart

Venus and Jupiter are neutral towards each other.> > > > As for gemstone

choices, there is alot more to gemstones than mere> lordships> > and just like

you i have bickered with Guruji about him advising yellow> > sapphire to ANY

rahu in the ninth, but he sticks to it, and so do i.> > [sourav]: This is

something I do not understand. Stone of Guru will increase> satva guna. But I

believe worship and prayer is a much better way and stone> can only complement

it. I have a person who have the same situation and> whose expenses have

increased dramatically after wearing yellow topaz.> > [Visti] Whatever happens,

the sattva guna does increase when wearing the> right gemstone. Some expenses

are good expenses.> > > > Btw. I believe this is the fourth upapada, not the

third. I sincerely> doubt> > that she will marry unless she does something

about this kala sarpa yoga.> > [sourav]: I have doubts too. But sincerety with

Mother worship can do> wonders.> > [Visti] Offcourse i agree with that.> > > >

> Here is a head breaker for you and the list regarding gemstones. In this> >

chart the most auspicious Gemstone is Emerald, but NOT because it is ninth> >

lord, but because it is in Aries.> > [sourav]: Do you mean Budha is in

Maranakarakasthana and hence cannot> protect 9th house lordship? Then Worship

of Gauri will prove beneficial. > > [Visti] I said Mercury is good for this

chart because it is in Aries. Try> again.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > ***> > > >

Visti Larsen> > > > For services and articles visit: > > > >

<http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > > > ***> > > > _____ > > > >

[]> On> >

Behalf Of Sourav> > 11 May 2006 17:47> > >

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate> >

gemstone> > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > Dear Visti-ji, Michal,

Nur and Others,> > > > Namaskar. Guru and Chandra are in the 5th house> > and

not in dusthana. Because Guru is under curse, shouldn't we say that> the> >

primary curse is Brahmin curse ? Matri shaapa and kaalaatrashaapa are> allied>

> curse. The primary curse does not have involvement with Lagnesha and AK> but>

> has involvement of 8th lord Surya. However, Guru and Shukra are in> >

parivartana and hence the Kaalaatrashaapa comes into picture. > > > > Mangal is

badhakesha, conjoining Ketu and aspected by Rahu and hence> > conjoining

Darapada and Shukra gives Badhaka problem. Because 8th from UL> > is also

lorded by Shukra, even if there is a second relationship in life,> it> > will

also be troubled if Badhaka problem is not removed. I suggest the> > remedies

given by Visti-ji. However, I do not suggest Diamond and Yellow> > Topaz worn

at the same time as they are inimical grahas and Sanjay-ji> > expressly

suggested not to wear gemstones of inimical grahas together.> > Wearing yellow

Topaz will make expenses heavy as Guru's moolatrikona falls> > in the 12th

house. The only 'good' thing about Rahu's placement in the> 12th> > from AL is

that it gives some material comforts. Budha is maraka to both> > first and

second UL and besides Budha is 6th lord aspecting AL/UL. 9th> house> > is in

control of Rahu (vargottama and Moolatrikona). Moreover, Budha is> >

kaalaatra-amsa-yuktah and hence will negatively impact relationships if> >

emerald is worn. Let us keep things simple. Infact, I do not suggest any> of> >

the said gemstones in the least. I prefer to have satvik remedies. > > > > I

would like to know if this is first long term relationship or not as the> >

lady has already 3 children. Each long term relationship especially with> >

children are to be ascribed to one UL.> > > > In Dwisaptati Sama Dasa, Rahu

Mahadasa will run till end of 2007. Rahu can> > obstruct marriage as it gives

virodhargala to 7th house. Besides> auspicious> > events in dasas and antars of

paapagrahas cause problems in the long term.> > > > > Best wishes,> > > >

Sourav> > > >

=================================================================> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > , shashi shekhar sharma> >

polite_astro@ wrote:> > >> > > .HARE RAM.> > > Mr.Visti Larsen,> > > While this

matter is being discussed on public platform so i> > > want to say some

thing.This person must wear Diamond and Emerald not> > > only for marriage

purpose but also to remove several obstacles in his> > life.> > > He must not

wear Yellow Sapphire at any cost.It the lord of 3rd and 12th> > > house

extremelly melafic places.As far as marriage is concern after> > Oct-2006> > >

his marriage will take place positively.> > > > > > With Regards> > > Shashi

Shekhar Sharma > > > > > > Visti Larsen visti@ wrote:> > > v\:*

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{behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}> >

st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) } ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > Dear

Srivastava, Namaskar> > > Capricorn lagna is correct. What is not adding up?> >

> Best wishes,> > > ***> > > Visti Larsen> > > For services and articles visit:

> > > http://srigaruda.com> > > ***> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

[]> > On Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> > > Sent:

11 May 2006 13:14> > > > > > Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate> > gemstone> > > > > > >

> > Dear Visti ,> > > > > > Nameste,I do not get the chart you described.I get

Asc as > > > > > > 11 Cap23 with TZ 7 west of GMT.> > > > > > can you tell

mewhat i am missing.> > > > > > - > > > > > >

Visti Larsen > > > > > > > > > > > > Sent:

Thursday, May 11, 2006 2:13 PM> > > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] for

Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate> > gemstone> > > > > > > > > > > > ||Hare

Rama Krsna||> > > Dear Michal and Nur, Namaskar> > > If benefics are exalted in

a dusthana or third house and involved in a> > curse, their curse is very

severe. This has occured with this venus and> Mars> > the AK being involved has

made it all the more severe as it has become a> > soul-level experience.> > >

Venus is lording the upapada and shows that the curse will involve the> >

attempt to marry someone but this attempt will fail or be extremely> >

difficult as the curse involves the same.> > > Rahu who is also involved in the

curse is in the ninth house, and this> > causes durbhagya and thus delay of

marriage (upto 45 – natural age), which> > also needs remedial measures. Being

that Rahu is forming Kala Sarpa Yoga> > THIS IS ALL THE MORE IMPORTANT... you

both missed this.> > > There is much more to this chart when you analyze the

karaka lagna and> > arudha lagna (DK in mks from AK... ak being mars enforcing

celibacy due to> > aspect on sixth... venus in sixth from al... etc).> > > > >

> The first and most important remedy for this person is to wear a diamond> >

to break the kala sarpa yoga... good call on this Michal but the reasoning> >

has to be clear. Furthermore she must read the story about kurma avatara> >

(tortoise) during which Sri Lakshmi was born. She must also worship> >

Kamalatmika, and she can start with the mantra: Om Kamalaatmikayai Namah.> >

Ask her to perform a penance of 40 days reciting this mantra for 20> rosaries>

> every morning at sunrise begining from a Full Moon day. She must keep> >

celibacy and be vegeterian during this time.> > > > > > If you think this is

too much for her, then ask her to atleast practice> > japa of the mantra every

day and reciting it for 3 rosaries every morning> at> > sunrise for one year.

She must still keep vegeterian... we can't approach> > the mother whilst eating

her children.> > > She must offcourse keep the Friday fast for Upapada.> > >

Never give emerald to a person who wants to marry, as Mercury> debilitates> >

Venus and enforces seperation in the couple. Instead, if you need to then> >

advise the emerald after one year of marriage is completed. But, see that> in>

> this chart the bad luck or durbhagya is caused by Rahu in the ninth house> >

which needs to be remedied using a yellow sapphire or topaz on the right> >

hand ring-finger... so forget emerald and start with advising the fast,> >

diamond (right hand – little finger) and worship of Kalamalaatmika. This> >

combination of remedies is very powerful and till this date i've seen each> >

person who has done it get into a good relationship after one year. Later> >

she can wear a topaz to improve her life. I know a lady who wears both the> >

diamond and a yellow stone for the exact same reasons, and she has seen a> >

lot of GOOD and very fortunate changes over the past couple of years.> > > Best

wishes,> > > ***> > > Visti Larsen> > > For services and articles visit: > > >

http://srigaruda.com> > > ***> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > >

[]> > On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> > >

11 May 2006 09:12> > > > > > Re:

[Om Krishna Guru] for Visti Larsen - regarding appropriate> > gemstone> > > > >

> > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > > > Dear Nur,> > > > > > Hope you don't mind

me sharing my thoughts. Why not a diamond? Venus is> > afflicted by Mars and

Rahu, but is exalted, as well as in parivartana with> > strong planets in the

5th house. This means it can come out of the curse> if> > you activate it. It

is also yoga karaka for Capricorn. Also Narayana> should> > be worshiped as

Saturn is the Ishta devata, and the Atmakaraka Mars is> > involved in the

curse.> > > > > > Respectfully,> > > Michal> > > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]>

> > > > > nuranda nadiadeol@ wrote:> > > Dear Visti,> > > > > > > > > > > > I

have a client who wishes very much to get married. She has 3 children> > but

has never been married. > > > > > > > > > > > > Birth data: May 19, 1977, at

1:26am at Langley, BC, Canada.> > > > > > > > > > > > I would recommend a fast

on fridays of course as her UL is in Libra, but> > I'm undecided whether she

should wear a Blue Sapphire, as Saturn is her> > ascendent lord and located in

7th, or Emerald as Mercury is the 9th lord> as> > according to a lecture I

heard by Pt. Sanjay Rath the 9th lord is related> to> > Dharma, and the

Navamsa, and therefore his gemstone be worn to precipitate> > marriage.> > > >

> > > > > > > > Your input is much appreciate.> > > > > > > > > > > > Nur> > >

> > > > > > > >

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