Guest guest Posted May 8, 2006 Report Share Posted May 8, 2006 nadatte kasyacit papam na caiva sukrtam vibhuh ajnanenavrtam jnanam tena muhyanti jantavah Nor does the Supreme Lord assume anyone's sinful or pious activities. Embodied beings, however, are bewildered because of the ignorance which covers their real knowledge. -- Bhagavad-gita 5.15 om karta sastrarthavattvat om || .. Vedanta-sutra Adhyaya 2, Pada 3, Adhikarana 14, Sutra 31 karta sastrarthavat-tvat karta—the doer; sastra—of the scriptures; artha—meaning; vat—possessing; tvat—because of having the nature. He performs actions. This is so because the scriptures are meaningful. Purport by Srila Baladeva Vidyabhusana It is the individual spirit soul who performs actions, not the modes of material nature. Why is that? The sutra explains: "Because the scriptures are meaningful." In the scriptures it is said: svarga-kamo yajeta "A person who desires Svargaloka should perform yajnas." and atmanam eva lokam upasita "One should worship the Supreme Personality of Godhead." These statements have meaning only if the individual spirit soul does actually perform actions. If all actions are performed by the modes of nature and the individual spirit soul never does anything, these statements of the scriptures are meaningless. These statements of scripture are intended to motivate the individual spirit soul to act in a certain way so he can enjoy the results of his actions. It is not even possible in this way to try to motivate the inert material modes to act in any way at all. That the individual spirit soul does actually perform actions is also confirmed in the next sutra. Best regards, Adi Purusha Das > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Freedom-ji, > > namaskar. If I may add, good and > evil, dark and light are all aspects of Krishna. He is impeller of man > who is doing good and one who is doing bad. He is karta and karma, karma > can su- and duh- and both are His. He is responsible for both. It is > our rajas which makes us differentiate. As I said, it is contextual. > Just like Ma or mother -- we use the same word Ma when we want different > things from Her and call on Her with different intentions. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > ============================================ > > > , "freeflowaum" <freeflowaum > wrote: > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Looking at it more, I can see the translation of ardana as disturbing, > but > > how does janaaH become 'evil men' since it is a beneficial word > denoting > > mankind. The first translation lightens up the ardana while the second > > translation darkens jana. > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > _____ > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Sourav > > Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:35 PM > > > > Re: sir....[Om Krishna Guru] .....namastey saab > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Freedom-ji, > > Namaskar. I have a slightly different > > understanding. Ardana means moving restlessly, disturbing, > distressing, > > annhilating. Ardana has a negative connotation. So Janaah (pl.) + > ardana - > > Janaardana means " One who inflicts suffering on evil men". > Alternatively, > > it means " One to Whom all pray for worldly success and liberation". > This is > > the meaning given in translation by Swami Tapasyananda for Sri > > Vishunusahasranaama where Janaardana is a name of Vishnu. Just wanted > to > > share this variation. > > Best wishes, > > Sourav > > =============================================================== > > , "freeflowaum" freeflowaum@ wrote: > > > > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > > > My understanding is that it is Visnu as the exciter, inspirer, mover > > > (ardana) of Man (Jana). Are you differentiating Jagannath and Visnu? > Who > > is > > > it who incarnates as Rama and Krsna, which Parashara is speaking > about. > > > > > > Namah Sivaya > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > [] > > On > > > Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya > > > Friday, April 21, 2006 1:54 AM > > > > > > Re: sir....[Om Krishna Guru] .....namastey saab > > > > > > > > > |om| > > > Dear Freedom, > > > .If they are only karmic control planets..no other planet works on > > > karma....? > > > Parasara says all planets control karma. Visnu took the form of the > > planets > > > to uphold the law of karma. > > > What is the meaning of Janardana in Parasara's statement? Sanjay > defines > > > Janardana to be Jagannath. > > > > > > regards > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading > today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " > > > <> " on the web. > > > > > > * > > > > > > > <?subject=Un> > > > > > > * Terms of > Service > > > <> . > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that > the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading > today > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " > > <> " on the web. > > > > * > > > > <?subject=Un> > > > > * Terms of Service > > <> . > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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