Guest guest Posted April 23, 2006 Report Share Posted April 23, 2006 virodhargala. Here 9th house is Pakalagna and hence the two malefic grahas are indeed interfereing with the 10th house in a negative way. It is not Mati-brahmana yoga. Its is actually, Mati-bhramana. Mati is intelligence, and bhramana is wondering. So it is a combination for wandering intelligence or insanity. The combination is given in the 300 Important Combinations by Dr. B. V. Raman, yoga 291-294. Here are the combinations: (1) Guru in lagna and Mangal in the 7th (i.e. maranakarakasthana) (2) Shani in the Lagna (maranakarakasthana) and Mangal in the 5th, 7th or 9th bhava. (3) Shani and Krishna-paksha Chandrama in the 12-th Bhava. (4) Budha and Chandra should be in a kendra aspected by or conjoined by another graha. Of these, Dr. Raman rightfully doubts the (1) clause. It is not very justified. In the present case, there is no clause applicable, although Shani and Mars together or aspecting in the 1-7 axis is not good. I think other factors must be taken into consideration and a synthesis of all the grahas mentioned above should show it. Best wishes, Sourav ================================================ --- In , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:>> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Sourav, Visti,> > Thanks for the interesting thread. A couple of questions if I may...> > Virodhargala is the obstruction of argala right? So in this example there is only the sign Scorpio giving argala to the 10th house, so Saturn obstructs this argala. But are you saying that Saturn and Mars is further interfering with the affairs of the 10th house? Is that why there was the mention of aggresion? Please dispell my confusion here.> > Matibrahmana yoga - Mars Saturn conjunction?> > Respect and thanks,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > Sourav souravc108 wrote: || Hare Rama Krishna ||> Dear Visti-ji,> Namaskar. Thanks for teaching me this principle, I dont have the cd's to this conference yet. Yes, the remedies with dasa are temporary and sometimes help if the mind is too agitated. The reason they have profound influence is that if the mind is calm there is less chance that the native with do something bad or rash for which he will have to suffer the rest of his life, but this is just a possibility. Hence sometimes I prefer temporary relief too. You are right, the mantras directed to intelligence and heart are always good through out life.> I meant virodhargla.> Best wishes,> Sourav> ================================================================> --- In , "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:> >> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar> > > > The MKS for Shukra is 6th. So also the sixth from Shukra will be the place> > which Shukra hates the most. If Shukra becomes AK, then the atma hates or> > rejects the planets in sixth from it. This principle was taught by Sanjayji> > in the Serbia conference 2005.> > > > Shani is not having papargala on the tenth house, its virodhaargala.> > Agression eh? How about matibhramana yoga?> > > > Your remedy based on Dasas it temporary. All mantras calm the mind, so why> > burden a person with more mantras than necessary?> > > > Best wishes,> > > > ***> > > > Visti Larsen> > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > > > ***> > > > _____ > > > > [] On> > Behalf Of Sourav> > 23 April 2006 16:57> > To: > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Can anybody tell me why jobless or frequent> > change of jobs.> > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > Dear Visti-ji,> > > > Namaskar. Thank you for this explanation. I didn't> > understand the maranakaraka but the rest of it I did. AK-AmK relation is> > sashthastaka in Rasi and Navamsa and in dwirdwadasa in Dasamsa. So they are> > badly disposited. Infact in both Rasi and Navamsa, Shani is causing> > paapaargala on the 10th house and hence you chose to direct the intelligence> > (paka-lagna is in the 9th house) so that it can stop hampering his own> > prospects. > > > > AK Shukra owns 10th house in rasi and aspects it by grahadrishti showing> > very strong feelings regarding job or events in job, and accomplishments in> > job. Lagnesha Shani in the 9th in retrograde shows very independant> > character and with Vedhaka Mangal conjoining can show aggressiveness as> > well. Now if you see tri-bhaghi Vimsottari Dasa, Progressed Chandra is in> > Punarvasu Nakshatra which is owned by Guru and exalted Rahu is present in it> > in the 6th house of obstacles. Rahu is in debility in the Dasamsa with Guru.> > Moreover, Chandra has latta on this nakshatra and this causes disturbance in> > mind. Hence a prayer to Aditi, the Nakshatra Devata (as per Nakshatra> > Suktam) will relieve mental blockages and tensions in general. Just an> > alternative/additional suggestion.> > > > Best wishes,> > > > Sourav> > > > ================================================================> > --- In , "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:> > >> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > Dear Sourav, Namaskar> > > > > > 1. Nirankara is Narayana. The immediete effects of the worship of Narayana> > > are that the dusthanas (karaka Saturn) and tenth house (karaka Mercury)> > > become stable, and solution to problems come... budhashanibhyam Narayana.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2. In this chart the Amatyakaraka is placed in marana karaka sthana from> > the> > > Atmakaraka, hence the reason the job is unstable... the amatyakaraka is> > also> > > saturn... Either way for all amatyakaraka related problems we need> > > Vishnu/Narayana.> > > > > > > > > > > > Since lagnesh happens to be Saturn in this chart, we also need to ensure> > > that the natives thought process is correct in his choice of jobs. To> > ensure> > > this and ensure job-stability I chose a nine-akshara mantra for Nirankara.> > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > ***> > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > ***> > > > > > _____ > > > > > > []> > On> > > Behalf Of Sourav> > > 23 April 2006 15:18> > > To: > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Can anybody tell me why jobless or frequent> > > change of jobs.> > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > Dear Visti-ji,> > > > > > Namaskar. Can you please teach why you chose this> > > particular mantra ? Please explain your thought process behind it so that> > I> > > can learn. > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > Sourav> > > > > > =================================================================> > > --- In , "Visti Larsen" visti@ wrote:> > > >> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > > > > > > > Dear JL, Namaskar> > > > > > > > A really good piece of advise for ensuring Job stability, is to worship> > > > Nirankara. Offcourse you must continue the other mantra i've given you,> > > but> > > > please in addition also recite the mantra: Om Hreem Nirankaraaya Namah.> > > > > > > > All the Best,> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > Visti Larsen> > > > > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > > > > > > > ***> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > []> > > On> > > > Behalf Of Sourav> > > > 21 April 2006 16:54> > > > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Can anybody tell me why jobless or> > frequent> > > > change of jobs.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > Dear J.L.,> > > > > > > > Namaskar. I am not a Guru and I am just trying to learn> > > > through practice. Your birth time is quite on the border for Navamsa and> > > > Dasamsa. Provide some details on your talents, the kind of jobs you do> > > best,> > > > your school and college education with dates etc. for rectification.> > > > > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > > > > Sourav> > > > > > > > ==================================================================> > > > > > > > > > > > , Jyotish Learner vedicastro_mind@> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sourav and other Learned Gurus,> > > > > > > > > > Can anybody tell me from my birth chart when will i get good stable> > > job??> > > > > > > > > > I am also having frequent change or better small jobs , I request> > > Learned> > > > Gurus to guide me , I need help desperately , currently i am in jobless> > ,> > > > > I am frustated i am not having job , just money gong away , nothing> > > coming> > > > in , job and money i dont have so i am failure , they are not consistent> > ,> > > > are there any chances when i will get stable job??> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My birth info is:> > > > > Male,> > > > > date of birth:17 June 1982> > > > > Time of Birth :22:36 pm> > > > > Place of Birth: Bombay , India> > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in advance.> > > > > Request to moderator plz pass this message.It would be great.> > > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > J.L> > > > > > > > > > Sourav souravc108@ wrote:> > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > > > > > > > > Dear Srinivas,> > > > > Namaskar. I am giving some pointers for your marraige. 7th house has> > > > kumbha with two lords, Rahu and Shani. Rahu is with enemy Chandra in the> > > 8th> > > > from the 7th house and is in Meena-navamsa which happens to be the 8th> > > house> > > > in the rasi chart. Shani is DK in gandanta (very weak) and also in> > > > maranakarakasthana and in kartari between Rahu and Mangal and> > debilitated> > > in> > > > Navamsa. the 7th house is also 8th from AK's position. So we have to see> > > the> > > > strength of Karaka and other grahas aspecting 7th house to see if and> > when> > > > marraige will happen. Shukra is karaka in the 11th house with 8th lord> > > Guru> > > > and conjoining A8, Gulika and Maandi in an inimical rasi Mithuna.> > > > Guru-Shukra is otherwise a rajayoga (2nd form of Dharmakarmadhipaty yoga> > > as> > > > given in COVA). Moreover, Shukra is having argala to the 7th house along> > > > with lagnesh Surya. Now, Surya is kaalaatra-amsa-yukta (i.e. in Kumbha> > > rasi> > > > which is 7th house of Rasi chart), is disposited by Shukra who is strong> > > > > in Navamsa chart in own house. Hence Shukra and Surya can give> > marraige.> > > > But Surya is generally malefic and is in marakasthana to UL. Shukra is> > > also> > > > with another maraka to UL (Guru) and in the 8th from it. Hence the sole> > > > strength of Shukra can give marraige.> > > > > There is a pitri-shaapa with Surya aspected by Shani and Rahu.> > Lagnesh,> > > > 8th lord ) via rasi drishti to Rahu) and two dire malefics to Surya are> > > > associated and can cause difficulties. AK is not directly associated> > > except> > > > providing rasi drishti to Surya. You are running Shukra moola dasa and> > > > Shukra can exchange results with Guru, thus giving the 8th lord result.> > > This> > > > is a possibility. Because Surya is in kendra the result of suffering is> > > not> > > > long lasting. > > > > > Now let us use dasas. Dwisaptati sama dasa is applicable but as main> > > lord> > > > of 7th house is Rahu and not Shani and also as Shani is weak, I prefer> > not> > > > to apply first Vimsottari dasa. Now you are running Guru dasa and soon> > > Shani> > > > antar with start after September. Guru can exchange results with Shukra> > as> > > > they are conjoining. So Shukra can give his result during Guru dasa.> > Shani> > > > is in debility in Navamsa but is Dharma-amsa-yukta besides, Shani is in> > > > parivartana with AK and is in kendra to AK. So Guru-dasa, Shani antar> > can> > > > give marraige. > > > > > Infact from the TP-2007 there is a strong possibility of marraige. The> > > > tithi-astottari dasa shows marriage likelihood in between July-October> > > 2007> > > > which co-incides with Guru-Shani-Shukra Vimshottari dasa for Natal> > chart.> > > So> > > > I am hopeful that your marriage will take place during this period.> > > > > In your chart, UL lord is weak and the two marakas (lords of 2nd and> > 7th> > > > from UL are conjoining) in the 8th house. Hence, you should continue> > > fasting> > > > on the day of UL i.e. Tuesday. If you are not feeling burdened with a> > lot> > > of> > > > mantras, I suggest that you should also do the Tryambakeshvara> > Jyotirlinga> > > > Mantra. It is based on Meena rasi which is kendra to Chandra and trikona> > > to> > > > AL and also happens to be the exaltation rasi of Shukra. Hence it will> > do> > > > you good. The mantra is || Om Namah Sivaaya Namo Tryambakeshvaraaya ||.> > > The> > > > pronunciation is like: 'tramm-bakesh-waraya'. It should not be> > 'trayam-'.> > > > > Best wishes,> > > > > Sourav> > > > > ==================================================================> > > > > > > > > > , "K.Srinivasan" ka.shrinivaasan@> > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Respected Gurus,> > > > > > > > > > > > After reading few posts in the past few days on Marriage delays and> > > > > > Job changes, I just wanted to present another case - that is myself.> > > > > > This is purely an attempt to pose a complex problem which I am> > trying> > > > > > to solve myself hard.I have presented my birth details below:> > > > > > > > > > > > Date and Time : 19 May 1978, 13:30 hours (rectified to 13:31:05 hrs> > by> > > > > > Shri Raghunadha Rao ji)> > > > > > Place : Madurai, Tamil Nadu, India> > > > > > > > > > > > Few unfortunate events happened last year (2005) in my life which I> > am> > > > > > still trying hard to explain astrologically:> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. I was betrayed by few colleagues in my workplace and had to fight> > > > > > my superiors in December 2004. I resigned due to intense mental> > > > > > anxiety in February 2005, but later withdrew my resignation upon> > > > > > insistence from my boss. Probably Janma Guru and Dasama Shani were> > > > > > causing all this.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2.I was affected by severe neck pain around the same time - Doctors> > > > > > diagnosed it as a muscular injury in neck. > > > > > > > > > > > > 3. I shifted to Chennai from Bangalore in July 2005 to join another> > > > > > company(software) but I had to resign again with in 7 days due to> > > > > > deterioration of my neck pain in July 2005. I was jobless for 6> > months> > > > > > till February 2006 and underwent hospitalization during this period> > > > > > for my neck pain. I have joined a job again in March 2006 despite> > the> > > > > > persisting neck pain.> > > > > > > > > > > > 4. My marriage is getting delayed though I keep on doing> > astrological> > > > > > remedies for that (fasting on tuesdays (UL lord), worshipping Lord> > > > > > Subramanya, reciting Vishnu Sahasra Nama, Sudharshan Ashtaka etc.,> > and> > > > > > above all trying to keep mind pure by concentrating on Narayana)> > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------> > > > > > I did analysis on my own chart and I request respected Gurus to> > > > > > enlighten/correct me more on these. I am presenting them below:> > > > > > > > > > > > 1. My UL lord is Mars getting Neechabhanga in 12th from Natal Lagna.> > > > > > Is this denying marriage (12th house) ? But he is exalted in> > Navamsa.> > > > > > > > > > > > 2.If I take UL lord as Ketu (due to dual lordship), Ketu is posited> > in> > > > > > 8th house from Lagna (obstacles).> > > > > > > > > > > > 3.7th house from UL in Rasi chart has Sun, for which I couldn't give> > > > > > any interpretation. Isn't Sun in UL a benefic bestowing a> > high-profile> > > > > > spouse as per JAimini sutras? If so, how should Sun in 7th from UL> > be> > > > > > interpreted?> > > > > > > > > > > > 4.Navamsa chart has Moon and Mercury in 7th from Karakamsa in chara> > > > > > rasi cancer. Atmakaraka Mars himself is Navamsa 7th lord conjoining> > > > > > Jupiter(3rd/6th lord) in makara. Jupiter+Mars combination is> > aspected> > > > > > by Saturn(4th lord) from 7th by Griha Dhrishti. Moreover Saturn and> > > > > > Mars are in Parivartana. Does this indicate a curse from> > > > > > spouse/mother/brother/uncle in previous birth?> > > > > > > > > > > > 5.Presently Aries D-9 Narayana dasa in running and is about to end> > in> > > > > > May 2006.Aries has darakaraka Saturn. Why didn't this dasa cause> > > > > > marriage? Is it because Rahu is stronger than Saturn as Rashi 7th> > > lord?> > > > > > > > > > > > 6.Next Navamsa Narayan dasa is of Pisces which has Rahu in it. Virgo> > > > > > anatardasa is starting around September-end 2006 contains Ketu and> > is> > > > > > also a trine from Navamsa UL (Taurus). Is this a possible time for> > > > > > marriage? 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