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Sunday, April 23, 2006 1:33 AM

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RE: sir....namastey saab

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Dear Sourav

& Freedom,

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">Going back to amara-kosha and its

commentaries:

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">1- janAn ardayati sukhayati iti

janArdanaH.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">2- pralayakAle janAnAm samhArakatvAt

janArdanaH.

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">3- janaH rAkshasaH tasya ardanaH

janArdanaH.

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">1 – He who distresses and pleases

[bad and good] people

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">2 – He who destroys people during

pralaya

10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">3 – The distresser of [all]

evil-person

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">> how does janaaH become 'evil men'

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10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:navy">janArdana is a synonym for vishNu, who is

karma-phala-dAtA. He administers good and bad upon people as a result of good

and bad actions. If Ishvara commits ‘jana-ardana’, we can only

conclude that this person ‘rAkshasa-janaH’ caused evil thus reaping

its rewards. But most people fit into the first definition, having committed

some good and some bad, thus receiving both ardana and sukha at the hands of

Ishvara.

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[] On Behalf Of Sourav

Saturday, April 22, 2006

10:43 PM

Re: sir....[Om Krishna

Guru] .....namastey saab

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|| Hare Rama Krishna

||

Dear

Freedom-ji,

Namaskar. You are also right and you are thinking is the positive way which is

good. Your meaning is applicable. However, various translators

interpreted this word in various ways based on their own understanding or

based on the context. For example, this word appears in Chapter 1 Sloka 36 in

Bhagavad Gita. Here Swami Gambhirananda, a very venerable scholar and a sanyani

of the Ramakrishna Order has interpreted it as "One who afflicts

creatures". I quote him here: " By addressing Krsna thus, Arjuna

hinted that, since killing of relatives was sinful in his case, therefore, if

they are to be killed at all, it should be done by Krsna Himself, for no sin

accrues to Him even when He destroys the world at the time of cosmic

dissolution."

Best

wishes,

Sourav

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,

"freeflowaum" <freeflowaum wrote:

>

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Looking at it more, I can see the translation of ardana as disturbing, but

> how does janaaH become 'evil men' since it is a beneficial word denoting

> mankind. The first translation lightens up the ardana while the second

> translation darkens jana.

>

> Namah Sivaya

>

> _____

>

>

[]

On

> Behalf Of Sourav

> Saturday, April 22, 2006 9:35 PM

>

> Re: sir....[Om Krishna Guru] .....namastey saab

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> Dear Freedom-ji,

> Namaskar. I have a slightly different

> understanding. Ardana means moving restlessly, disturbing, distressing,

> annhilating. Ardana has a negative connotation. So Janaah (pl.) + ardana -

> Janaardana means " One who inflicts suffering on evil men".

Alternatively,

> it means " One to Whom all pray for worldly success and

liberation". This is

> the meaning given in translation by Swami Tapasyananda for Sri

> Vishunusahasranaama where Janaardana is a name of Vishnu. Just wanted to

> share this variation.

> Best wishes,

> Sourav

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> ,

"freeflowaum" freeflowaum@ wrote:

> >

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> >

> > My understanding is that it is Visnu as the exciter, inspirer, mover

> > (ardana) of Man (Jana). Are you differentiating Jagannath and Visnu?

Who

> is

> > it who incarnates as Rama and Krsna, which Parashara is speaking

about.

> >

> > Namah Sivaya

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

[]

> On

> > Behalf Of Jyotisa Shisya

> > Friday, April 21, 2006 1:54 AM

> >

> > Re: sir....[Om Krishna Guru] .....namastey saab

> >

> >

> > |om|

> > Dear Freedom,

> > .If they are only karmic control planets..no other planet works on

> > karma....?

> > Parasara says all planets control karma. Visnu took the form of the

> planets

> > to uphold the law of karma.

> > What is the meaning of Janardana in Parasara's statement? Sanjay

defines

> > Janardana to be Jagannath.

> >

> > regards

> > Hari