Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Namaste. >IF we speculate Pisc being even lagna,Taking Mars as lord of first Preg >for sex determination ; Mars too shows Female birth child. There is no need speculating that Pisces is even lagna, it IS. Mars in Gemini which is male sign should show male child, does this indicate the usually accepted reversal of Gemini-Cancer does not hold true? Perhaps. Unless it's not the native's first child.... Yet Scorpio Narayan dasha in d-7 with Mars conjoining UL seems to indeed give first child in his dasha. Antardasha Cancer is 5th and aspects the 9th in rasi dristi, so that's correct too. Visti, with my ayanamsa I don't have Saturn in lagna, but in Aries. Ys, Dhira Krsna dasa, web sites: <http://www.jyotishi.150m.com/Ayanamsa.html> <Dhira_ayanamsa> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*"Om Namah Shivaaya Omkareshvaraaya Om Om Sah". Hariom, Dear Rafel, What JS stands for. Can you quote reference to example. thanks || May all people be happy ||OM TAT SATR.C.Srivastava .swami_rcs mob 9412268768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com - Rafal Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:35 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises Dear Guruji & Srivastavathere is also one example in JS about Pisces Lagna with Sani in it, and there is also first child readed from Vrscika(should be from karka according to sani-exception concept). RegardsRafal Gendarz--- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> > I also feel that the birthtime cannot be soo much off, but am perplexed as> to why the Saturn exception didn't work.> > Either way the birthtime has to be increased by 2 minutes to get the Ketu> pratyantara giving the birth (Pratyantara usually is associated with trines> from lagna).> > Ketu itself can indicate the childbirth as being male, as its the lord of> ninth house and placed in Libra - male sign. But, according to the strength> rules, Mars is the stronger lord of the ninth house... i hope Sanjayji can> help us out of this predicament.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > _____ > > [] On> Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> 02 April 2006 06:24> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari om , Friends,> > Dear visti,Nameste> > In The instant case apparant crises is over.> > It was a case of slight delayed child birth.> > Both medical intervention and remedial measure were called for and> performed.> > Couple had Male child at 7:32 AM on 2 April 2006,opertion ended smoothly.> > Now , i would feel appropiate if you can teach the exception.Usually it is> seen> > that results of male are reliable in matter of sex determination.> > Here female chart indicates male child but male chart does not.> > What is the missing link?How sex of child is male?> > Share your teaching if you feel pleasure.> > Thanking you once again for timely analysis and advise.> > Note TOB are fairly reliable D7 lagna change not likly.> > Male native had recent company change relocation and pay hike.> > Does Sat in D7 Lagna has any thing to say but it prefers female issue> > IF we speculate Pisc being even lagna,Taking Mars as lord of first Preg for> sex determination ; Mars too shows Female birth child.> > In female chart who is lord of First pregnance?> > Clarification will be obliging.> > Thanking because sometimes i feel somthing is amiss in application.> > Your explanation will make understanding better. > > HARI OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> Consulting Astrologer> E-mail : swami_rcs > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"> Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001> India> Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768> http://www.cosmograce.com> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> ------------------------> > ----- Original Message ----- > > Visti Larsen <visti > > To: > > Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:09 PM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> In both chart Mars is either Putrakaraka or joined Putrakaraka.> Next; In both charts malefic yogas are going on in the fifth house or with> the fifth lord, and these yogas are badly placed from Jupiter, thus> indicating that it will be bad for children in particular.> In the husbands chart, the Saptamsa Lagna is Pisces and Saturn is joined it,> who will dominate the sequence of childbirths.> The sixth lord and maraka to children is the Sun, who is in parivartana with> Mercury who takes on the killing powers. Mercury is aspecting the fifth lord> Moon, indicating the danger to the first child.> Mars is however also aspecting the fifth lord, and being putrakaraka it will> try to save through operation, so the medical team have made the correct> advise.> Guru antara dasa is running and is in trines to the fifth lord Moon, and> will bring the childbirth. Lets say in Shukra Pratyantara dasa, as its> placed in trines. Lets say a Tritiya or Ekadashi tithi, the child will have> a strong Moon associated with Lagna, i.e. cancer lagna.> As them to perform the mrityunjaya homa for the child.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com> ***> > > [] On> Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> 31 March 2006 17:44> To: > [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari om , Friend,> Dear visti someone very close to me is going to have a baby.> It will be there first child. Problem apperas medically to foetus.> What is your view about situation around birth of child ..Operation > decided by medical team.> Male DOB 14 March 1973> TOB 14:36 IST> POB 27N11 &78:02 > Female DOB 20 Nov 1976> TOB 20:05 IST> POB 80N55 & 26E51> Here views are welcome as i am not able to concentrate.> Thanking in advance.> HARI OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> Consulting Astrologer> E-mail : swami_rcs > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"> Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001> India> Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768> http://www.cosmograce.com> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> ------------------------> > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > Vedic> </gads?t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr> ee+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=TFfY_0AVmaAw4qhDevlqgA> > > Vedic> </gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astro> logy&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=EC27o4pU4fmYDwY> rEv2UNA> astrology > > Free> </gads?t=ms&k=Free+vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+> astrology&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=5NzTK1sUgW> PYpsiOIYz9Qg> vedic astrology > > > Sjc> </gads?t=ms&k=Sjc&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Free> +vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=LK0R4qI0eEt-c1XWsVsDlQ> > > Jyotish> </gads?t=ms&k=Jyotish&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=> Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=_AQUTPx5Xwom5CFJwPEOiQ>> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > * Visit your group "> <> " on the web.> > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > _____> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 5, 2006 Report Share Posted April 5, 2006 Dear Srivastava, I meant Jaimini Upadesa Sutra's Regards Rafal Gendarz - R.C.Srivastava Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:14 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*"Om Namah Shivaaya Omkareshvaraaya Om Om Sah". Hariom, Dear Rafel, What JS stands for. Can you quote reference to example. thanks || May all people be happy ||OM TAT SATR.C.Srivastava .swami_rcs mob 9412268768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com - Rafal Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:35 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises Dear Guruji & Srivastavathere is also one example in JS about Pisces Lagna with Sani in it, and there is also first child readed from Vrscika(should be from karka according to sani-exception concept). RegardsRafal Gendarz--- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> > I also feel that the birthtime cannot be soo much off, but am perplexed as> to why the Saturn exception didn't work.> > Either way the birthtime has to be increased by 2 minutes to get the Ketu> pratyantara giving the birth (Pratyantara usually is associated with trines> from lagna).> > Ketu itself can indicate the childbirth as being male, as its the lord of> ninth house and placed in Libra - male sign. But, according to the strength> rules, Mars is the stronger lord of the ninth house... i hope Sanjayji can> help us out of this predicament.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > _____ > > [] On> Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> 02 April 2006 06:24> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari om , Friends,> > Dear visti,Nameste> > In The instant case apparant crises is over.> > It was a case of slight delayed child birth.> > Both medical intervention and remedial measure were called for and> performed.> > Couple had Male child at 7:32 AM on 2 April 2006,opertion ended smoothly.> > Now , i would feel appropiate if you can teach the exception.Usually it is> seen> > that results of male are reliable in matter of sex determination.> > Here female chart indicates male child but male chart does not.> > What is the missing link?How sex of child is male?> > Share your teaching if you feel pleasure.> > Thanking you once again for timely analysis and advise.> > Note TOB are fairly reliable D7 lagna change not likly.> > Male native had recent company change relocation and pay hike.> > Does Sat in D7 Lagna has any thing to say but it prefers female issue> > IF we speculate Pisc being even lagna,Taking Mars as lord of first Preg for> sex determination ; Mars too shows Female birth child.> > In female chart who is lord of First pregnance?> > Clarification will be obliging.> > Thanking because sometimes i feel somthing is amiss in application.> > Your explanation will make understanding better. > > HARI OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> Consulting Astrologer> E-mail : swami_rcs > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"> Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001> India> Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768> http://www.cosmograce.com> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> ------------------------> > ----- Original Message ----- > > Visti Larsen <visti > > To: > > Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:09 PM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> In both chart Mars is either Putrakaraka or joined Putrakaraka.> Next; In both charts malefic yogas are going on in the fifth house or with> the fifth lord, and these yogas are badly placed from Jupiter, thus> indicating that it will be bad for children in particular.> In the husbands chart, the Saptamsa Lagna is Pisces and Saturn is joined it,> who will dominate the sequence of childbirths.> The sixth lord and maraka to children is the Sun, who is in parivartana with> Mercury who takes on the killing powers. Mercury is aspecting the fifth lord> Moon, indicating the danger to the first child.> Mars is however also aspecting the fifth lord, and being putrakaraka it will> try to save through operation, so the medical team have made the correct> advise.> Guru antara dasa is running and is in trines to the fifth lord Moon, and> will bring the childbirth. Lets say in Shukra Pratyantara dasa, as its> placed in trines. Lets say a Tritiya or Ekadashi tithi, the child will have> a strong Moon associated with Lagna, i.e. cancer lagna.> As them to perform the mrityunjaya homa for the child.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com> ***> > > [] On> Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> 31 March 2006 17:44> To: > [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari om , Friend,> Dear visti someone very close to me is going to have a baby.> It will be there first child. Problem apperas medically to foetus.> What is your view about situation around birth of child ..Operation > decided by medical team.> Male DOB 14 March 1973> TOB 14:36 IST> POB 27N11 &78:02 > Female DOB 20 Nov 1976> TOB 20:05 IST> POB 80N55 & 26E51> Here views are welcome as i am not able to concentrate.> Thanking in advance.> HARI OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> Consulting Astrologer> E-mail : swami_rcs > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"> Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001> India> Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768> http://www.cosmograce.com> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> ------------------------> > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > Vedic> </gads?t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr> ee+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=TFfY_0AVmaAw4qhDevlqgA> > > Vedic> </gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astro> logy&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=EC27o4pU4fmYDwY> rEv2UNA> astrology > > Free> </gads?t=ms&k=Free+vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+> astrology&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=5NzTK1sUgW> PYpsiOIYz9Qg> vedic astrology > > > Sjc> </gads?t=ms&k=Sjc&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Free> +vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=LK0R4qI0eEt-c1XWsVsDlQ> > > Jyotish> </gads?t=ms&k=Jyotish&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=> Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=_AQUTPx5Xwom5CFJwPEOiQ>> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > * Visit your group "> <> " on the web.> > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > _____> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 II Om Gurave Namah IIHari om , Friend, Dear Rafel nameste. Thank you, i will check. HARI OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaConsulting AstrologerE-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"Shaheed Nagar. AGRA 282001IndiaPh +91-562-223-2323 Mob +91 94122 68768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com------------------------'>http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com------------------------ - Rafal Gendarz Wednesday, April 05, 2006 11:34 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises Dear Srivastava, I meant Jaimini Upadesa Sutra's Regards Rafal Gendarz - R.C.Srivastava Wednesday, April 05, 2006 7:14 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*"Om Namah Shivaaya Omkareshvaraaya Om Om Sah". Hariom, Dear Rafel, What JS stands for. Can you quote reference to example. thanks || May all people be happy ||OM TAT SATR.C.Srivastava .swami_rcs mob 9412268768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com - Rafal Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:35 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises Dear Guruji & Srivastavathere is also one example in JS about Pisces Lagna with Sani in it, and there is also first child readed from Vrscika(should be from karka according to sani-exception concept). RegardsRafal Gendarz--- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti wrote:>> ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> > I also feel that the birthtime cannot be soo much off, but am perplexed as> to why the Saturn exception didn't work.> > Either way the birthtime has to be increased by 2 minutes to get the Ketu> pratyantara giving the birth (Pratyantara usually is associated with trines> from lagna).> > Ketu itself can indicate the childbirth as being male, as its the lord of> ninth house and placed in Libra - male sign. But, according to the strength> rules, Mars is the stronger lord of the ninth house... i hope Sanjayji can> help us out of this predicament.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com> > ***> > _____ > > [] On> Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> 02 April 2006 06:24> > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari om , Friends,> > Dear visti,Nameste> > In The instant case apparant crises is over.> > It was a case of slight delayed child birth.> > Both medical intervention and remedial measure were called for and> performed.> > Couple had Male child at 7:32 AM on 2 April 2006,opertion ended smoothly.> > Now , i would feel appropiate if you can teach the exception.Usually it is> seen> > that results of male are reliable in matter of sex determination.> > Here female chart indicates male child but male chart does not.> > What is the missing link?How sex of child is male?> > Share your teaching if you feel pleasure.> > Thanking you once again for timely analysis and advise.> > Note TOB are fairly reliable D7 lagna change not likly.> > Male native had recent company change relocation and pay hike.> > Does Sat in D7 Lagna has any thing to say but it prefers female issue> > IF we speculate Pisc being even lagna,Taking Mars as lord of first Preg for> sex determination ; Mars too shows Female birth child.> > In female chart who is lord of First pregnance?> > Clarification will be obliging.> > Thanking because sometimes i feel somthing is amiss in application.> > Your explanation will make understanding better. > > HARI OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> Consulting Astrologer> E-mail : swami_rcs > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"> Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001> India> Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768> http://www.cosmograce.com> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> ------------------------> > ----- Original Message ----- > > Visti Larsen <visti > > To: > > Saturday, April 01, 2006 3:09 PM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> Dear Srivastava, Namaskar> In both chart Mars is either Putrakaraka or joined Putrakaraka.> Next; In both charts malefic yogas are going on in the fifth house or with> the fifth lord, and these yogas are badly placed from Jupiter, thus> indicating that it will be bad for children in particular.> In the husbands chart, the Saptamsa Lagna is Pisces and Saturn is joined it,> who will dominate the sequence of childbirths.> The sixth lord and maraka to children is the Sun, who is in parivartana with> Mercury who takes on the killing powers. Mercury is aspecting the fifth lord> Moon, indicating the danger to the first child.> Mars is however also aspecting the fifth lord, and being putrakaraka it will> try to save through operation, so the medical team have made the correct> advise.> Guru antara dasa is running and is in trines to the fifth lord Moon, and> will bring the childbirth. Lets say in Shukra Pratyantara dasa, as its> placed in trines. Lets say a Tritiya or Ekadashi tithi, the child will have> a strong Moon associated with Lagna, i.e. cancer lagna.> As them to perform the mrityunjaya homa for the child.> Best wishes,> ***> Visti Larsen> For services and articles visit: > http://srigaruda.com> ***> > > [] On> Behalf Of Swami Daivyaga> 31 March 2006 17:44> To: > [Om Krishna Guru] child Birth crises> > > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari om , Friend,> Dear visti someone very close to me is going to have a baby.> It will be there first child. Problem apperas medically to foetus.> What is your view about situation around birth of child ..Operation > decided by medical team.> Male DOB 14 March 1973> TOB 14:36 IST> POB 27N11 &78:02 > Female DOB 20 Nov 1976> TOB 20:05 IST> POB 80N55 & 26E51> Here views are welcome as i am not able to concentrate.> Thanking in advance.> HARI OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> Consulting Astrologer> E-mail : swami_rcs > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"> Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001> India> Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768> http://www.cosmograce.com> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> ------------------------> > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > Vedic> </gads?t=ms&k=Vedic&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Fr> ee+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=TFfY_0AVmaAw4qhDevlqgA> > > Vedic> </gads?t=ms&k=Vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astro> logy&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=EC27o4pU4fmYDwY> rEv2UNA> astrology > > Free> </gads?t=ms&k=Free+vedic+astrology&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+> astrology&w3=Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=5NzTK1sUgW> PYpsiOIYz9Qg> vedic astrology > > > Sjc> </gads?t=ms&k=Sjc&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=Free> +vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=LK0R4qI0eEt-c1XWsVsDlQ> > > Jyotish> </gads?t=ms&k=Jyotish&w1=Vedic&w2=Vedic+astrology&w3=> Free+vedic+astrology&w4=Sjc&w5=Jyotish&c=5&s=80&.sig=_AQUTPx5Xwom5CFJwPEOiQ>> > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > * Visit your group "> <> " on the web.> > * > > <?subject=Un> > > * > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > _____> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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