RE: Steps to find the name (RE: Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal)

March 24, 2006

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

Dear Abhay, Srivastavji, Michal,

Now you have two methods shown by Sanjayji. Both are not contradictory

(obviously!), but taught in different ways. Sanjayji adds: the London method,

which is not very elaborate, was used specifically by his grandfather as he had

faced a severe case of balarishta when he was young. Hence the kendras from the

Moon was taken, and his name was changed from Sushant to Sanjay. It had to be a

name which would please the ishta devata. He also mentions that he had not

spoken much on nakshatras then. But it may be lapse of memory on his part.

However, he has pointed out that the more elaborate method of choosing the

namakshara from lagna and chandra lagna and then seeing the name from the

katapayadi and analysis of the chart from both the nama rashis, is what we

should use when seeing the prospective name of the child. Hence I wrote about

it on the list, as normally I do not write in the Srijagannath list. He has

also now doubly clarified this statement.

Srivastavji, these are astrological ways of determining the name. The rituals

associated with it are very regional. Lakshmi has also mentioned how she was

given three names. The names anyways commonly chosen in India are that of the

gods, and that of the gods one likes and worships. People tend to name their

children after their aaradhya gods.

Best Regards,

Sarbani

Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006

7:36 PMCc: sohamsaSubject:

Steps to find the name (RE: Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal)

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sarbani and list, Namaskar

These are the three steps taught by Sanjayji in the London Conference 2001.

Find the most auspicious planet and list its aksharas... This is done based on

Lagna and Arudha lagna, as well as other common principles. Shortlist the found

aksharas using the hoda chakra... The aksharas placed in the rasis in kendra to

Moon are preferred for good health. Finally the ammount of aksharas are chosen

based on the most auspicious signs. Kendra to lagna is normally preferred, but

the astrologer must decide which kendra they wanto enhance.

Subsequently when the name has been chosen, the astrologer can perform

Katapayadi calculations to see the effects.

As an addition, the name associated with the natives Ishta devata will be the best!

Example:

+--------------+

| \ | | / |

| \ | | Sk / |

| \ | | / |

| Ke \ Bu | Sy AL | / |

| \ | | / |

|---------------+---------------+---------------|

| | | |

| Gu Ch | | |

| | Sri Rama | |

| Lg | Rasi | Ma |

| | | |

|---------------+---------------+---------------|

| / | | \ |

| / | | \ Ra |

| / | (Sa) | \ |

| / | | \ |

+---------------+---------------+---------------+

For this chart, the family astrologer choose the Moon as being the most

auspicious graha in the chart, as Moon was in own sign in lagna, and also in

fourth from arudha lagna. This combination promises world wide fame, and great

character, propperties, etc. The Moon has the aksharas: ya, ra, la, va, sha,

shha, sa, ha. In the Hoda chakra:

ya, yi, yu are in the fifth whilst yai and yo are in the sixth house. Neither are in a kendra.

All the Ra’s are in Libra, in a kendra to Moon which are very auspicious. All

the La’s are in Aries, in a kendra to Moon which are again auspicious. All the

Va’s are in Taurus, which are not in a kendra to moon. All the sa’s reside in

Aquarius, which is not a kendra to moon. Hu Hai Ho are in Cancer, whilst the

remaining Ha’s are in the twelfth house, so these are also optional.

The most auspicious quadrant is no doubt that of the movable signs, housing all

those exalted planets, and thus a 2 syllable name is preferred, i.e. one with 2

vowel sounds.

The family chose Ra and particularly Ra-Ma. The family astrologer then did his

calculations and found that the name had its effect on the sign cancer itself,

and the fourth house.

Ishta Devata must be found in the navamsa chakra, but is unavailable for this astrologer to peruse.

Hope this helps.

Best wishes,

***

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Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 13:05To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected

Vistiji-Michal

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

Dear Visti,

Of course you have been using Hoda Chakra! That is why I was surprised by your

question. And yes, it is there in VRA as well.

I am not discarding the use of Arudha Lagna. If you see the example charts, I

have used AL extensively. This is how I would go about in Abhay's chart: select

the namakshara from Lagna and Chandra lagna first. For if there is no longevity

in the first place, then what happiness and arudha are we talking about? The

second step would be to choose the name from that akshara. From the short list

of names, we derive a second nama rashi using Katapayadi. We then analyse the

chart from the perspective of the given name and definitely take the AL into

account. So the akshara from lagna and the name from lagna and AL. Only after

we ensure that you will live can we talk about your arudha, and ensure that it

stays good.

Of course, this is just one method. Students should realise that there are

multiple methods of selecting the appropriate namakshara. And in most of these

methods, the nakshatras play a crucial role. Again longevity for the jataka.

(All these rules are for manushya jataka and not for naming corporations etc.).

Hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Sarbani

Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006

3:16 PMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ;

Respected Vistiji-Michal

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sarbani, Namaskar

Now i understand. It seems i’ve been using Hoda Chakra all along! The list of

aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the Hoda chakra. Btw,

i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka Bharanam...

couldn’t find it just now.

I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as taught in

London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest.

This doesn’t change my recommendation for Abhay’s daughter though. Of what use

is good health if ones life isn’t happy... So yes i use arudha lagna as the

last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have indicated... this

is in line with what Sanjayji taught me.

Best wishes,

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Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 09:45To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected

Vistiji-Michal

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

Dear Visti,

I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by

Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002 to

determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali book

called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used specifically for

choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi Chakra.There is also a

nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well. At the West Coast in 2002,

my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to the mark. Hence, Sanjayji

requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the diagram to Freedom and he

reproduced it in a digital form. Since then Freedom has uploaded this diagram

in his own website, without acknowledgement or permission from either me or

Guruji. I really feel sorry for all the students who are being misguided like

this. This chakra and the nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be

used for purposes other than mantras, and that too there is a specific

technique for it. When I discovered about this chakra during my research and

had discussed it with Guruji, he thought it was very important and had

requested me to present it at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed

it at an evening session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web

site (under construction).

There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka Bharanam. It

is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost every practising

astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the Sohamsa list a few days

ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods of choosing names. I

discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught by Sanjayji by using

the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I thought it appropriate

to apply it to the present case study. As the students here are SJC students,

it is nice that they get exposed to the all the methods taught by us.

Best Regards,

Sarbani

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Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006

12:07 PMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ;

Respected Vistiji-Michal

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Sarbani, Namaskar

If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by

Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which ‘hoda chakra’

are you using?

For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the

‘Nakshatra lecture’ by Sanjay Rath in london 2002.

Best wishes,

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Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 07:08To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected

Vistiji-Michal

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

Dear Michal and Visti,

As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know of a

different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, but the

sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna and Chandra

lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in my mail to

Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the Moon are

important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very important for

manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is why traditionally

people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in this case we are not

doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi is placed in a dusthana

from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and the other planetary

placements are good. I have explained this in the first mail to the querist.

Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. Once the family chooses a

name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a nama rashi from the Katapayadi

method, and then analyse the chart more holistically by including the arudhas

etc. But first, the family has to choose a name or shortlist two names from

which one can analyse.

Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West

Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London.

Best Regards,

Sarbani

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Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006

10:56 AMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ;

Respected Vistiji

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Michal, Namaskar

We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a foremost.

Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though.

The only reason i didn’t choose the Moon in this case, was its placement from

arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement.

Best wishes,

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Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski24 March 2006 06:05To:

Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected

Vistiji

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sarbani,Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va'

because of the Moon in Taurus? In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may

be getting something totally wrong here. Can you please explain the connection

between the sign choosen and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise

sound based on the pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based

on movable signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables

respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3

syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little

more.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Sarbani Sarkar

<sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

Dear Abhay,

A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4

letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics of

these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to a

particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the rashi of

the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This nama rashi

should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna kendra indicates

a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in the person's life. If

this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the nama rashi is neither in

lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering will be high as the amount

of truth in the person will be low. Satya or truth is strong in the lagna and

Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas and declining in the apoklimas.

Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the Chandra

kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the 7th from it

forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, Venus and AK

Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in the 12th is good

for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name from the rashis of

Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and in panaphara from the

Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three options you will see that

Mithuna is the best option. However, between Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha

is a better nama rashi, once you have analysed the chart from both the signs.

Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very

precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose a

name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and would

also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of the

Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's names such

as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, Vandita, Varuni,

Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, Vaishakhi, Vandana. I

hope this helps.

Best Regards,

Sarbani

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2006 11:49Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ;

Respected Vistiji|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay

rath ji charan sprash i have a daughter

..please suggest Name according to her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given

name of moon rashi . but i want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful

future , good health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . my

daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is Delhi . also guru

ji tell me about my daughter . Naman in guru charans

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II Om Gurave Namah IIHari om , Friend,

Thanks Visti for sharing technique and thanks Sarbani for clarification and teaching.

Thanks Mr Jagannathan for precipitating the discussion, so naming of child

as per avkhahoda charkas is not full proof.

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[Om Krishna Guru] RE: Steps to find the name (RE: Name ;

Respected Vistiji-Michal)