Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Michal and Visti, As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Michal, Namaskar We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. The only reason i didn’t choose the Moon in this case, was its placement from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski24 March 2006 06:05To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sarbani,Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus? In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3 syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Abhay, A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4 letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas and declining in the apoklimas. Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have analysed the chart from both the signs. Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. Best Regards, Sarbani [] OnBehalf Of abhayshaili23 March 2006 11:49Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji charan sprash i have a daughter ..please suggest Name according to her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . Naman in guru charans abhay shaili ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that thehuman stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 23, 2006 Report Share Posted March 23, 2006 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which ‘hoda chakra’ are you using? For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the ‘Nakshatra lecture’ by Sanjay Rath in london 2002. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar 24 March 2006 07:08 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal 12.0pt"> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Michal and Visti, font-family:"Courier New""> As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> font-family:"Courier New""> Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. font-family:"Courier New""> font-family:"Courier New""> Best Regards, font-family:"Courier New""> Sarbani font-family:"Courier New""> font-family:"Courier New""> font-family:"Courier New""> 10.0pt"> Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">Dear Michal, Namaskar font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">The only reason i didn’t choose the Moon in this case, was its placement from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement. font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">Best wishes, bookman;color:#FF0080">*** color:navy">Visti Larsen color:navy">For services and articles visit: color:navy">http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com bookman;color:#FF0080">*** bold"> 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski 24 March 2006 06:05 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji color:#00007F">[ Hare Rama Krsna ] "Courier New";color:#00007F"> Dear Sarbani, Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus? In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3 syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] font-family:"Courier New""> italic">Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Georgia;color:silver">Shri Brahmadaru Smarami color:green">Dear Abhay, color:green">A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4 letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas and declining in the apoklimas. color:green">Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have analysed the chart from both the signs. color:green">Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. color:green">Best Regards, color:green">Sarbani -----Original Message----- [] On Behalf Of abhayshaili 23 March 2006 11:49 [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji || Hare Rama Krishna || Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji charan sprash i have a daughter .please suggest Name according to her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . Naman in guru charans abhay shaili ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today font-family:"Courier New""> New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Visti, I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002 to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well. At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since then Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really feel sorry for all the students who are being misguided like this. This chakra and the nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for purposes other than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. When I discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed it with Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to present it at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an evening session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web site (under construction). There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As the students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed to the all the methods taught by us. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which ‘hoda chakra’ are you using? For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the ‘Nakshatra lecture’ by Sanjay Rath in london 2002. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 07:08To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Michal and Visti, As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Michal, Namaskar We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. The only reason i didn’t choose the Moon in this case, was its placement from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski24 March 2006 06:05To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sarbani,Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus? In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3 syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Abhay, A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4 letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas and declining in the apoklimas. Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have analysed the chart from both the signs. Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. Best Regards, Sarbani [] OnBehalf Of abhayshaili23 March 2006 11:49Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji charan sprash i have a daughter ..please suggest Name according to her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . Naman in guru charans abhay shaili ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that thehuman stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar Now i understand. It seems i’ve been using Hoda Chakra all along! The list of aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the Hoda chakra. Btw, i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka Bharanam... couldn’t find it just now. I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as taught in London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest. This doesn’t change my recommendation for Abhay’s daughter though. Of what use is good health if ones life isn’t happy... So yes i use arudha lagna as the last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have indicated... this is in line with what Sanjayji taught me. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar 24 March 2006 09:45 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal 12.0pt"> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami 10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New""> Dear Visti, font-family:"Courier New""> I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002 to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well. At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since then Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really feel sorry for all the students who are being misguided like this. This chakra and the nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for purposes other than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. When I discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed it with Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to present it at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an evening session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web site (under construction). font-family:"Courier New""> There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As the students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed to the all the methods taught by us. font-family:"Courier New""> Best Regards, font-family:"Courier New""> Sarbani font-family:"Courier New""> font-family:"Courier New""> font-family:"Courier New""> 10.0pt"> Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">Dear Sarbani, Namaskar font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which ‘hoda chakra’ are you using? font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the ‘Nakshatra lecture’ by Sanjay Rath in london 2002. font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">Best wishes, bookman;color:#FF0080">*** color:navy">Visti Larsen color:navy">For services and articles visit: color:navy">http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com bookman;color:#FF0080">*** bold"> 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar 24 March 2006 07:08 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Georgia;color:silver">Shri Brahmadaru Smarami color:green">Dear Michal and Visti, color:green">As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. color:green">Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. color:green">Best Regards, color:green">Sarbani font-family:"Courier New""> bold"> 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">Dear Michal, Namaskar font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">The only reason i didn’t choose the Moon in this case, was its placement from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement. font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:navy">Best wishes, bookman;color:#FF0080">*** color:navy">Visti Larsen color:navy">For services and articles visit: color:navy">http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com bookman;color:#FF0080">*** bold"> 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma"> [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski 24 March 2006 06:05 RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji color:#00007F">[ Hare Rama Krsna ] "Courier New";color:#00007F"> Dear Sarbani, Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus? In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3 syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more. Respectfully, Michal [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] font-family:"Courier New""> italic">Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Georgia;color:silver">Shri Brahmadaru Smarami color:green">Dear Abhay, color:green">A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4 letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas and declining in the apoklimas. color:green">Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have analysed the chart from both the signs. color:green">Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. color:green">Best Regards, color:green">Sarbani -----Original Message----- [] On Behalf Of abhayshaili 23 March 2006 11:49 [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji || Hare Rama Krishna || Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji charan sprash i have a daughter .please suggest Name according to her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . Naman in guru charans abhay shaili ~ om tat sat ~ Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 II Om Gurave Namah IIHari om , Friend, Dear visti and Sarbani. Nameste,The current name in ciculation is AVKHADA CHAKRA.Incidently i have Jatak Bharanam by Pdt Sita Ram Jha.It has some chakras but hoda is not in it. I was pondering and wishing to thank Ahhaya for giving an oppurnity to start very important but almost forgotten matter of Importance. Both of you deserve great praise in putting forth the secret once more of Nam tattwa. i would like your comments on one sloka which is often quoted by astrologers that indicate where birth name to be considered and where current name is considered. i have come across also that one can have five names.I will wait first to know what more relevent is in present context. Please tell more apart from what is known in CD's of Sanjaya ji on Nakshtra and JD of OCT DEC 2004 and SJC Bombaylectures that is more important in anming child, andwhere what is important. HARI OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaConsulting AstrologerE-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"Shaheed Nagar. AGRA 282001IndiaPh +91-562-223-2323 Mob +91 94122 68768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com------------------------ - Visti Larsen Friday, March 24, 2006 3:15 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar Now i understand. It seems i’ve been using Hoda Chakra all along! The list of aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the Hoda chakra. Btw, i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka Bharanam... couldn’t find it just now. I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as taught in London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest. This doesn’t change my recommendation for Abhay’s daughter though. Of what use is good health if ones life isn’t happy... So yes i use arudha lagna as the last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have indicated... this is in line with what Sanjayji taught me. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 09:45To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Visti, I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002 to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well. At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since then Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really feel sorry for all the students who are being misguided like this. This chakra and the nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for purposes other than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. When I discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed it with Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to present it at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an evening session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web site (under construction). There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As the students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed to the all the methods taught by us. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which ‘hoda chakra’ are you using? For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the ‘Nakshatra lecture’ by Sanjay Rath in london 2002. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 07:08To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Michal and Visti, As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. Best Regards, Sarbani size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Michal, Namaskar We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. The only reason i didn’t choose the Moon in this case, was its placement from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski24 March 2006 06:05To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sarbani,Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus? In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3 syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Abhay, A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4 letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas and declining in the apoklimas. Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have analysed the chart from both the signs. Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. Best Regards, Sarbani [] OnBehalf Of abhayshaili23 March 2006 11:49Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji charan sprash i have a daughter ..please suggest Name according to her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . Naman in guru charans abhay shaili ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that thehuman stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Visti, Of course you have been using Hoda Chakra! That is why I was surprised by your question. And yes, it is there in VRA as well. I am not discarding the use of Arudha Lagna. If you see the example charts, I have used AL extensively. This is how I would go about in Abhay's chart: select the namakshara from Lagna and Chandra lagna first. For if there is no longevity in the first place, then what happiness and arudha are we talking about? The second step would be to choose the name from that akshara. From the short list of names, we derive a second nama rashi using Katapayadi. We then analyse the chart from the perspective of the given name and definitely take the AL into account. So the akshara from lagna and the name from lagna and AL. Only after we ensure that you will live can we talk about your arudha, and ensure that it stays good. Of course, this is just one method. Students should realise that there are multiple methods of selecting the appropriate namakshara. And in most of these methods, the nakshatras play a crucial role. Again longevity for the jataka. (All these rules are for manushya jataka and not for naming corporations etc.). Hope this helps. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 3:16 PMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar Now i understand. It seems i’ve been using Hoda Chakra all along! The list of aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the Hoda chakra. Btw, i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka Bharanam... couldn’t find it just now. I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as taught in London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest. This doesn’t change my recommendation for Abhay’s daughter though. Of what use is good health if ones life isn’t happy... So yes i use arudha lagna as the last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have indicated... this is in line with what Sanjayji taught me. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 09:45To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Visti, I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002 to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well. At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since then Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really feel sorry for all the students who are being misguided like this. This chakra and the nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for purposes other than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. When I discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed it with Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to present it at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an evening session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web site (under construction). There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As the students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed to the all the methods taught by us. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which ‘hoda chakra’ are you using? For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the ‘Nakshatra lecture’ by Sanjay Rath in london 2002. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 07:08To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Michal and Visti, As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. Best Regards, Sarbani size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Michal, Namaskar We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. The only reason i didn’t choose the Moon in this case, was its placement from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski24 March 2006 06:05To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sarbani,Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus? In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3 syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Abhay, A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4 letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas and declining in the apoklimas. Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have analysed the chart from both the signs. Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. Best Regards, Sarbani [] OnBehalf Of abhayshaili23 March 2006 11:49Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji charan sprash i have a daughter ..please suggest Name according to her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . Naman in guru charans abhay shaili ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that thehuman stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links New Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Srivastavji, Thank you. Yes, the name is shortened from the Avakhada Chakra. When people change names, their Arudhas also shift depending where the AL is from the Katapayadi nama rashi. When the arudha change, a person's fortune often changes. That is why Visti was laying stress on the arudha. Best Regards, Sarbani Swami Daivyaga [swami_rcs ] Friday, March 24, 2006 4:39 PMSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal II Om Gurave Namah IIHari om , Friend, Dear visti and Sarbani. Nameste,The current name in ciculation is AVKHADA CHAKRA.Incidently i have Jatak Bharanam by Pdt Sita Ram Jha.It has some chakras but hoda is not in it. I was pondering and wishing to thank Ahhaya for giving an oppurnity to start very important but almost forgotten matter of Importance. Both of you deserve great praise in putting forth the secret once more of Nam tattwa. i would like your comments on one sloka which is often quoted by astrologers that indicate where birth name to be considered and where current name is considered. i have come across also that one can have five names.I will wait first to know what more relevent is in present context. Please tell more apart from what is known in CD's of Sanjaya ji on Nakshtra and JD of OCT DEC 2004 and SJC Bombaylectures that is more important in anming child, andwhere what is important. HARI OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaConsulting AstrologerE-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"Shaheed Nagar. AGRA 282001IndiaPh +91-562-223-2323 Mob +91 94122 68768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com------------------------ - Visti Larsen Friday, March 24, 2006 3:15 PM RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar Now i understand. It seems i’ve been using Hoda Chakra all along! The list of aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the Hoda chakra. Btw, i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka Bharanam... couldn’t find it just now. I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as taught in London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest. This doesn’t change my recommendation for Abhay’s daughter though. Of what use is good health if ones life isn’t happy... So yes i use arudha lagna as the last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have indicated... this is in line with what Sanjayji taught me. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 09:45To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Visti, I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002 to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well. At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since then Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really feel sorry for all the students who are being misguided like this. This chakra and the nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for purposes other than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. When I discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed it with Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to present it at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an evening session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web site (under construction). There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As the students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed to the all the methods taught by us. Best Regards, Sarbani Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Sarbani, Namaskar If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which ‘hoda chakra’ are you using? For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the ‘Nakshatra lecture’ by Sanjay Rath in london 2002. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar24 March 2006 07:08To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Michal and Visti, As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. Best Regards, Sarbani size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> Visti Larsen [visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com] Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AMSubject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Michal, Namaskar We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. The only reason i didn’t choose the Moon in this case, was its placement from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski24 March 2006 06:05To: Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Sarbani,Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus? In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3 syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Abhay, A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4 letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas and declining in the apoklimas. Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have analysed the chart from both the signs. Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. Best Regards, Sarbani [] OnBehalf Of abhayshaili23 March 2006 11:49Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji|| Hare Rama Krishna ||Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji charan sprash i have a daughter ..please suggest Name according to her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . Naman in guru charans abhay shaili ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that thehuman stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Links New Messenger with Voice. Call regular phones from your PC for low, low rates. Blab-away for as little as 1¢/min. Make PC-to-Phone Calls using Messenger with Voice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, That's a very nice discussion indeed. I have noticed that in South India (probably in North India too), a person is given two additional names apart from his own name, at the time of naam karana itself. The two additional names are for maasa and nakshatra respectively. For example, in my case, I was given the following names: Maasa naamnaa..Indumati Nakshatra naamna...Bharati Vyaavahaarika naamnaa...Lakshmi I have also noticed that during all important rituals like marriage, upanayanam etc, these additional names are repeated before the person's name. If a person does not remember the names, the pandit allots temporary names starting with appropriate aksharas. While I understand the importance of nakshatra for chandra, is the maasa naama given to take care of the Sun? Is it necessary to consider / include aksharas related to maasa also for coining the name? Where can the maasa-wise classification of aksharas be found? Regards, Lakshmi , "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Srivastavji, > > Thank you. Yes, the name is shortened from the Avakhada Chakra. When people > change names, their Arudhas also shift depending where the AL is from the > Katapayadi nama rashi. When the arudha change, a person's fortune often > changes. That is why Visti was laying stress on the arudha. > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani > > > > > _____ > > Swami Daivyaga [swami_rcs] > Friday, March 24, 2006 4:39 PM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > Hari om , Friend, > Dear visti and Sarbani. > Nameste,The current name in ciculation is AVKHADA CHAKRA.Incidently > i have Jatak Bharanam by Pdt Sita Ram Jha.It has some chakras but hoda is > not in it. > I was pondering and wishing to thank Ahhaya for giving an oppurnity to > start very important but almost forgotten matter of Importance. > Both of you deserve great praise in putting forth the secret once more of > Nam tattwa. > i would like your comments on one sloka which is often quoted by astrologers > that indicate where birth name to be considered and where current name is > considered. i have come across also that one can have five names.I will wait > first to know what more relevent is in present context. > Please tell more apart from what is known in CD's of Sanjaya ji on Nakshtra > and JD of OCT DEC 2004 and SJC Bombaylectures that is more important in > anming child, andwhere what is important. > > HARI OM TATSAT > ------------------------ > R.C.Srivastava > Consulting Astrologer > E-mail : swami_rcs > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001 > India > Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768 > http://www.cosmograce.com > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > ------------------------ > > - > Visti Larsen <visti > > Friday, March 24, 2006 3:15 PM > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar > > Now i understand. It seems i've been using Hoda Chakra all along! The list > of aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the Hoda chakra. > Btw, i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka > Bharanam... couldn't find it just now. > > I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as taught in > London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest. > > > > This doesn't change my recommendation for Abhay's daughter though. Of what > use is good health if ones life isn't happy... So yes i use arudha lagna as > the last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have > indicated... this is in line with what Sanjayji taught me. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > > _____ > > > [] On > Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar > 24 March 2006 09:45 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by > Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002 > to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali > book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used > specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi > Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well. > At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to > the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the > diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since then > Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without > acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really feel sorry > for all the students who are being misguided like this. This chakra and the > nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for purposes other > than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. When I > discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed it with > Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to present it > at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an evening > session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web site (under > construction). > > > > There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka > Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost > every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the > Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods > of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught > by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I > thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As the > students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed to the all > the methods taught by us. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > _____ > > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar > > If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by > Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which `hoda > chakra' are you using? > > For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the > `Nakshatra lecture' by Sanjay Rath in london 2002. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > > _____ > > > [] On > Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar > 24 March 2006 07:08 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Michal and Visti, > > As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know > of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such, > but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna > and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in > my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the > Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very > important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is > why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in > this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi > is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and > the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first > mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya. > Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a > nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more > holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to > choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. > > Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West > Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani > > > > _____ > > size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Michal, Namaskar > > We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a > foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. > > The only reason i didn't choose the Moon in this case, was its placement > from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen > > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > http://astrovisti.com > > *** > > > _____ > > > [] On > Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski > 24 March 2006 06:05 > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Sarbani, > > Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus? > In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally > wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen > and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the > pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable > signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables > respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3 > syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more. > > Respectfully, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Abhay, > > A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4 > letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics > of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to > a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the > rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This > nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna > kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in > the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the > nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering > will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or > truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas > and declining in the apoklimas. > > Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the > Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the > 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter, > Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in > the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name > from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and > in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three > options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between > Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have > analysed the chart from both the signs. > > Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very > precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose > a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and > would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of > the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's > names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha, > Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita, > Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani > > > [] On > Behalf Of abhayshaili > 23 March 2006 11:49 > > [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji > charan sprash > i have a daughter .please suggest Name according to > her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i > want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good > health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . > my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is > Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . > Naman in guru charans > abhay shaili > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links > > > > > > _____ > > > New > <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman4/*http:/us.rd.. com/evt > =39666/*http:/beta.messenger.> Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 II Om Gurave Namah IIHari om , Friends, Nameste , I wanted to wait, but Maa has initiated the thread .Out of many procedures Namkaran is usually done by Four names. 1. Devnaam 2. Maas name 3. Nakshtra name 4. general spoken name (legalname ) 1. The Devnaam is indicative of Kuldevta,istadevata,avatar devata.This name ends usually with prasad, bhakt das etc say Vishnu das. 2.Maas naam .There are synomene names to current Chaitra, baisakh etc like krishna anant achyut etc. 3.Nakshtra naam. These are based on Avahkada chakra. Ghuhya sutra classifies names into eight type.It is suggested that name should correspond to family identification,village identification or be meaningful. If we look at sankalpa language at Namkaran Sanskar, one understand that "I will give name to this child for pleasing the divine so that child gets rid of malefecience enveloping his seed and stay during garbhavastha and that child gets long life. Further during Namkaran after temperory installing deity of naam selected priest speaks in ear of child the four names so selected.If one name is representing all the four only one sloka related to it is spoken. Now blessings of priest is taken on behalf of child. I have quoted only essential part.My purpose of mail is to know How ritual part is taken care from Astrological angle. So far consideration from Lagna/moon kendra/arudh has been hinted andof course the application of katpayaad chakra. What else is significant? HARI OM TATSAT------------------------R.C.SrivastavaConsulting AstrologerE-mail : swami_rcs 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"Shaheed Nagar. AGRA 282001IndiaPh +91-562-223-2323 Mob +91 94122 68768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com------------------------ - B Lakshmi Ramesh Friday, March 24, 2006 7:07 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Om Gurave NamahDear Sarbani,That's a very nice discussion indeed. I have noticed that in South India (probably in North India too), a person is given two additional names apart from his own name, at the time of naam karana itself. The two additional names are for maasa and nakshatra respectively.For example, in my case, I was given the following names:Maasa naamnaa..IndumatiNakshatra naamna...BharatiVyaavahaarika naamnaa...LakshmiI have also noticed that during all important rituals like marriage, upanayanam etc, these additional names are repeated before the person's name. If a person does not remember the names, the pandit allots temporary names starting with appropriate aksharas. While I understand the importance of nakshatra for chandra, is the maasa naama given to take care of the Sun? Is it necessary to consider / include aksharas related to maasa also for coining the name? Where can the maasa-wise classification of aksharas be found?Regards,Lakshmi , "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Srivastavji,> > Thank you. Yes, the name is shortened from the Avakhada Chakra. When people> change names, their Arudhas also shift depending where the AL is from the> Katapayadi nama rashi. When the arudha change, a person's fortune often> changes. That is why Visti was laying stress on the arudha. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani> > > > > _____ > > Swami Daivyaga [swami_rcs] > Friday, March 24, 2006 4:39 PM> To: > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > > > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari om , Friend,> Dear visti and Sarbani.> Nameste,The current name in ciculation is AVKHADA CHAKRA.Incidently> i have Jatak Bharanam by Pdt Sita Ram Jha.It has some chakras but hoda is> not in it.> I was pondering and wishing to thank Ahhaya for giving an oppurnity to> start very important but almost forgotten matter of Importance.> Both of you deserve great praise in putting forth the secret once more of> Nam tattwa.> i would like your comments on one sloka which is often quoted by astrologers> that indicate where birth name to be considered and where current name is> considered. i have come across also that one can have five names.I will wait> first to know what more relevent is in present context. > Please tell more apart from what is known in CD's of Sanjaya ji on Nakshtra> and JD of OCT DEC 2004 and SJC Bombaylectures that is more important in> anming child, andwhere what is important.> > HARI OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> Consulting Astrologer> E-mail : swami_rcs > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"> Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001> India> Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768> http://www.cosmograce.com> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> ------------------------> > ----- Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen <visti > To: > Friday, March 24, 2006 3:15 PM> Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar> > Now i understand. It seems i've been using Hoda Chakra all along! The list> of aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the Hoda chakra.> Btw, i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka> Bharanam... couldn't find it just now.> > I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as taught in> London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest. > > > > This doesn't change my recommendation for Abhay's daughter though. Of what> use is good health if ones life isn't happy... So yes i use arudha lagna as> the last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have> indicated... this is in line with what Sanjayji taught me.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > > _____ > > > [] On> Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar> 24 March 2006 09:45> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Visti,> > > > I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by> Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002> to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali> book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used> specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi> Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well.> At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to> the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the> diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since then> Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without> acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really feel sorry> for all the students who are being misguided like this. This chakra and the> nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for purposes other> than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. When I> discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed it with> Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to present it> at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an evening> session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web site (under> construction).> > > > There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka> Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost> every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the> Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods> of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught> by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I> thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As the> students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed to the all> the methods taught by us.> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar> > If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by> Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which `hoda> chakra' are you using?> > For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the> `Nakshatra lecture' by Sanjay Rath in london 2002.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > > _____ > > > [] On> Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar> 24 March 2006 07:08> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Michal and Visti,> > As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know> of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such,> but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna> and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in> my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the> Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very> important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is> why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in> this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi> is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and> the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first> mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya.> Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a> nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more> holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to> choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse.> > Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West> Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani> > > > _____ > > size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Michal, Namaskar> > We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a> foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though.> > The only reason i didn't choose the Moon in this case, was its placement> from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > > _____ > > > [] On> Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> 24 March 2006 06:05> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji> > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Sarbani,> > Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus?> In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally> wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen> and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the> pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable> signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables> respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3> syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more.> > Respectfully,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote:> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Abhay,> > A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4> letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics> of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to> a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the> rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This> nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna> kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in> the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the> nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering> will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or> truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas> and declining in the apoklimas. > > Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the> Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the> 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter,> Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in> the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name> from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and> in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three> options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between> Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have> analysed the chart from both the signs. > > Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very> precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose> a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and> would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of> the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's> names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha,> Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita,> Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps.> > Best Regards,> > Sarbani> > > [] On> Behalf Of abhayshaili> 23 March 2006 11:49> To: > [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji > charan sprash > i have a daughter ..please suggest Name according to > her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i > want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good > health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . > my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is > Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . > Naman in guru charans > abhay shaili > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > New > <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman4/*http:/us.rd./evt> =39666/*http:/beta.messenger.> Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Shri Brahmadaru Smarami Dear Lakshmi, This is very interesting. The south is so richly steeped in tradition! I don't know about masa aksharas but maybe the masa nama has something to do with the sun. Can you find out? Best Regards, Sarbani B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh ] Friday, March 24, 2006 7:07 PMSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal Om Gurave NamahDear Sarbani,That's a very nice discussion indeed. I have noticed that in South India (probably in North India too), a person is given two additional names apart from his own name, at the time of naam karana itself. The two additional names are for maasa and nakshatra respectively.For example, in my case, I was given the following names:Maasa naamnaa..IndumatiNakshatra naamna...BharatiVyaavahaarika naamnaa...LakshmiI have also noticed that during all important rituals like marriage, upanayanam etc, these additional names are repeated before the person's name. If a person does not remember the names, the pandit allots temporary names starting with appropriate aksharas. While I understand the importance of nakshatra for chandra, is the maasa naama given to take care of the Sun? Is it necessary to consider / include aksharas related to maasa also for coining the name? Where can the maasa-wise classification of aksharas be found?Regards,Lakshmi , "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani wrote:>> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Srivastavji,> > Thank you. Yes, the name is shortened from the Avakhada Chakra. When people> change names, their Arudhas also shift depending where the AL is from the> Katapayadi nama rashi. When the arudha change, a person's fortune often> changes. That is why Visti was laying stress on the arudha. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani> > > > > _____ > > Swami Daivyaga [swami_rcs] > Friday, March 24, 2006 4:39 PM> To: > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > > > II Om Gurave Namah II> Hari om , Friend,> Dear visti and Sarbani.> Nameste,The current name in ciculation is AVKHADA CHAKRA.Incidently> i have Jatak Bharanam by Pdt Sita Ram Jha.It has some chakras but hoda is> not in it.> I was pondering and wishing to thank Ahhaya for giving an oppurnity to> start very important but almost forgotten matter of Importance.> Both of you deserve great praise in putting forth the secret once more of> Nam tattwa.> i would like your comments on one sloka which is often quoted by astrologers> that indicate where birth name to be considered and where current name is> considered. i have come across also that one can have five names.I will wait> first to know what more relevent is in present context. > Please tell more apart from what is known in CD's of Sanjaya ji on Nakshtra> and JD of OCT DEC 2004 and SJC Bombaylectures that is more important in> anming child, andwhere what is important.> > HARI OM TATSAT> ------------------------> R.C.Srivastava> Consulting Astrologer> E-mail : swami_rcs > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa"> Shaheed Nagar. > AGRA 282001> India> Ph +91-562-223-2323 > Mob +91 94122 68768> http://www.cosmograce.com> http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com> ------------------------> > ----- Original Message ----- > Visti Larsen <visti > To: > Friday, March 24, 2006 3:15 PM> Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar> > Now i understand. It seems i've been using Hoda Chakra all along! The list> of aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the Hoda chakra.> Btw, i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka> Bharanam... couldn't find it just now.> > I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as taught in> London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest. > > > > This doesn't change my recommendation for Abhay's daughter though. Of what> use is good health if ones life isn't happy... So yes i use arudha lagna as> the last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have> indicated... this is in line with what Sanjayji taught me.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > > _____ > > > [] On> Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar> 24 March 2006 09:45> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Visti,> > > > I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' posted by> Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West Coast 2002> to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a Bengali> book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used> specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called the Rashi> Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras as well.> At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was not up to> the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I gave the> diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since then> Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without> acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really feel sorry> for all the students who are being misguided like this. This chakra and the> nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for purposes other> than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. When I> discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed it with> Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to present it> at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an evening> session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web site (under> construction).> > > > There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka> Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very sure almost> every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it to the> Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple methods> of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara and taught> by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate method, and I> thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As the> students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed to the all> the methods taught by us.> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani> > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Sent: Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar> > If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra posted by> Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So which `hoda> chakra' are you using?> > For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt from the> `Nakshatra lecture' by Sanjay Rath in london 2002.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > > _____ > > > [] On> Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar> 24 March 2006 07:08> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Michal and Visti,> > As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do not know> of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the Moon as such,> but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given to lagna> and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and suffering in> my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna and the> Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it becomes very> important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. That is> why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. However, in> this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although this rashi> is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in it, and> the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in the first> mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and satya.> Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by deriving a> nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart more> holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family has to> choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse.> > Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in the West> Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. > > Best Regards,> > Sarbani> > > > _____ > > size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> > > Visti Larsen [visti] > Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AM> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> > Dear Michal, Namaskar> > We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a> foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though.> > The only reason i didn't choose the Moon in this case, was its placement> from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this placement.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > For services and articles visit: > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > > _____ > > > [] On> Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski> 24 March 2006 06:05> > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji> > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Sarbani,> > Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in Taurus?> In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting something totally> wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the sign choosen> and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based on the> pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on movable> signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables> respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to have 3> syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little more.> > Respectfully,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani wrote:> > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > Dear Abhay,> > A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, 3 or 4> letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and characteristics> of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara belongs to> a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. Determine the> rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal chart. This> nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi in lagna> kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or satya in> the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra lagna. If the> nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of suffering> will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. Satya or> truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the panapharas> and declining in the apoklimas. > > Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is in the> Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is in the> 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. Jupiter,> Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. Rahu in> the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt for a name> from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna kendra and> in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the three> options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, between> Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you have> analysed the chart from both the signs. > > Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to be very> precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. Please choose> a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in her and> would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe a name of> the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the mother's> names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, Vasudha,> Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, Vinita,> Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps.> > Best Regards,> > Sarbani> > > [] On> Behalf Of abhayshaili> 23 March 2006 11:49> To: > [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji > charan sprash > i have a daughter ..please suggest Name according to > her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but i > want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good > health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . > my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is > Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . > Naman in guru charans > abhay shaili > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > New > <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman4/*http:/us.rd./evt> =39666/*http:/beta.messenger.> Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted March 24, 2006 Report Share Posted March 24, 2006 Om Gurave Namah Dear Sarbani, I'll definitely try to find out and get back to you. Regards, Lakshmi , "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Lakshmi, > > This is very interesting. The south is so richly steeped in tradition! I > don't know about masa aksharas but maybe the masa nama has something to do > with the sun. Can you find out? > > Best Regards, > > Sarbani > > > > > _____ > > B Lakshmi Ramesh [b_lakshmi_ramesh] > Friday, March 24, 2006 7:07 PM > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Sarbani, > > That's a very nice discussion indeed. > > I have noticed that in South India (probably in North India too), a > person is given two additional names apart from his own name, at the > time of naam karana itself. The two additional names are for maasa > and nakshatra respectively. > > For example, in my case, I was given the following names: > > Maasa naamnaa..Indumati > Nakshatra naamna...Bharati > Vyaavahaarika naamnaa...Lakshmi > > I have also noticed that during all important rituals like marriage, > upanayanam etc, these additional names are repeated before the > person's name. If a person does not remember the names, the pandit > allots temporary names starting with appropriate aksharas. While I > understand the importance of nakshatra for chandra, is the maasa > naama given to take care of the Sun? Is it necessary to consider / > include aksharas related to maasa also for coining the name? Where > can the maasa-wise classification of aksharas be found? > > Regards, > Lakshmi , "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@> > wrote: > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Srivastavji, > > > > Thank you. Yes, the name is shortened from the Avakhada Chakra. > When people > > change names, their Arudhas also shift depending where the AL is > from the > > Katapayadi nama rashi. When the arudha change, a person's fortune > often > > changes. That is why Visti was laying stress on the arudha. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > Swami Daivyaga [swami_rcs@] > > Friday, March 24, 2006 4:39 PM > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > > > > > > II Om Gurave Namah II > > Hari om , Friend, > > Dear visti and Sarbani. > > Nameste,The current name in ciculation is AVKHADA CHAKRA.Incidently > > i have Jatak Bharanam by Pdt Sita Ram Jha.It has some chakras but > hoda is > > not in it. > > I was pondering and wishing to thank Ahhaya for giving an > oppurnity to > > start very important but almost forgotten matter of Importance. > > Both of you deserve great praise in putting forth the secret once > more of > > Nam tattwa. > > i would like your comments on one sloka which is often quoted by > astrologers > > that indicate where birth name to be considered and where current > name is > > considered. i have come across also that one can have five names.I > will wait > > first to know what more relevent is in present context. > > Please tell more apart from what is known in CD's of Sanjaya ji on > Nakshtra > > and JD of OCT DEC 2004 and SJC Bombaylectures that is more > important in > > anming child, andwhere what is important. > > > > HARI OM TATSAT > > ------------------------ > > R.C.Srivastava > > Consulting Astrologer > > E-mail : swami_rcs@ > > > > 199,MMIG "Guru Kripa" > > Shaheed Nagar. > > AGRA 282001 > > India > > Ph +91-562-223-2323 > > Mob +91 94122 68768 > > http://www.cosmograce.com > > http://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com > > ------------------------ > > > > - > > Visti Larsen <visti@> > > > > Friday, March 24, 2006 3:15 PM > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > > > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > Now i understand. It seems i've been using Hoda Chakra all along! > The list > > of aksharas for the nakshatras as given in Sanjayjis VRA is the > Hoda chakra. > > Btw, i would appreciate the reference for the Hoda Chakra in Jataka > > Bharanam... couldn't find it just now. > > > > I will try to give you the details about Sanjayjis methodology as > taught in > > London 2001 (2002 was a misprint) at the earliest. > > > > > > > > This doesn't change my recommendation for Abhay's daughter though. > Of what > > use is good health if ones life isn't happy... So yes i use arudha > lagna as > > the last resort only after seeing Chandra and Lagna, as you have > > indicated... this is in line with what Sanjayji taught me. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar > > 24 March 2006 09:45 > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > > > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > > > > > Dear Visti, > > > > > > > > I am afraid you are very much off the mark here. The 'nice chakra' > posted by > > Freedom happens to be an exclusive chakra used by me in the West > Coast 2002 > > to determine the mantra rashi. This chakra has been discussed in a > Bengali > > book called Brhat Tantrasar by Krishnanada Agamvagish, and is used > > specifically for choosing mantras. This chakra is simply called > the Rashi > > Chakra.There is also a nakshatra chakra which is used for mantras > as well. > > At the West Coast in 2002, my digital drawing of the diagram was > not up to > > the mark. Hence, Sanjayji requested Freedom to draw it for me. I > gave the > > diagram to Freedom and he reproduced it in a digital form. Since > then > > Freedom has uploaded this diagram in his own website, without > > acknowledgement or permission from either me or Guruji. I really > feel sorry > > for all the students who are being misguided like this. This > chakra and the > > nakshatra chakra that accompanies it are NOT to be used for > purposes other > > than mantras, and that too there is a specific technique for it. > When I > > discovered about this chakra during my research and had discussed > it with > > Guruji, he thought it was very important and had requested me to > present it > > at the West Coast 2002. Subsequently I had discussed it at an > evening > > session in Mumbai 2005 as well. You will also find it in my web > site (under > > construction). > > > > > > > > There is only one Hoda Chakra. You may find the reference in Jataka > > Bharanam. It is in every Panchanga published in India. I am very > sure almost > > every practising astrologer knows it. I think even Swee posted it > to the > > Sohamsa list a few days ago. I am very sure there may be multiple > methods > > of choosing names. I discussed one as that was from the parampara > and taught > > by Sanjayji by using the Hoda Chakra. It's quite an elaborate > method, and I > > thought it appropriate to apply it to the present case study. As > the > > students here are SJC students, it is nice that they get exposed > to the all > > the methods taught by us. > > > > > > > > Best Regards, > > > > > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@] > > Friday, March 24, 2006 12:07 PM > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Sarbani, Namaskar > > > > If you are using Hoda Chakra, then according to the nice chakra > posted by > > Freedom, the Ya, Ra, La and Va aksharas sit in pisces. So > which `hoda > > chakra' are you using? > > > > For others a good reference on choosing the name can be learnt > from the > > `Nakshatra lecture' by Sanjay Rath in london 2002. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Sarbani Sarkar > > 24 March 2006 07:08 > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji-Michal > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Michal and Visti, > > > > As far as I know, the Hoda Chakra is based on the nakshatras. I do > not know > > of a different nakshatra chakra. And again I am not taking the > Moon as such, > > but the sign Taurus. According to the parampara, primacy is given > to lagna > > and Chandra lagna. I have mentioned the reason about satya and > suffering in > > my mail to Abhay. The other, more obvious reason is that the lagna > and the > > Moon are important for the longevity of the child. Hence it > becomes very > > important for manushya jatakas or the horoscopes of human beings. > That is > > why traditionally people take the nakshatra pada of the Moon. > However, in > > this case we are not doing so. We are taking the rashi. Although > this rashi > > is placed in a dusthana from the lagna, it has the exalted Moon in > it, and > > the other planetary placements are good. I have explained this in > the first > > mail to the querist. Arudha lagna comes secondary to longevity and > satya. > > Once the family chooses a name, we can then analyse the name by > deriving a > > nama rashi from the Katapayadi method, and then analyse the chart > more > > holistically by including the arudhas etc. But first, the family > has to > > choose a name or shortlist two names from which one can analyse. > > > > Michal, this teaching comes from Achyuta Dasa. I spoke about it in > the West > > Coast in 2004 and will be doing so again on 2nd April in London. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > size=2 width="100%" align=center tabIndex=-1> > > > > Visti Larsen [visti@] > > Friday, March 24, 2006 10:56 AM > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Michal, Namaskar > > > > We are not using Hoda chakra, we are using nakshatra chakra first a > > foremost. Hoda Chakra is very good to use secondarily though. > > > > The only reason i didn't choose the Moon in this case, was its > placement > > from arudha lagna. I wonder how highly Sarbani considered this > placement. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or > <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of Michal Dziwulski > > 24 March 2006 06:05 > > > > RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Sarbani, > > > > Again I am confused. Have you choosen 'Va' because of the Moon in > Taurus? > > In the hoda chakra isn't 'Va' in Pisces? I may be getting > something totally > > wrong here. Can you please explain the connection between the > sign choosen > > and the sound, and then how you arrive at the precise sound based > on the > > pada. I understand now that the number of aksharas is based on > movable > > signs, dual signs and fixed signs being assigned 2, 3, 4 syllables > > respectively. And that the dual signs being Sattvik it is best to > have 3 > > syllables. Is this thinking correct? Please explain a little > more. > > > > Respectfully, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > Sarbani Sarkar <sarbani@> wrote: > > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > > > Dear Abhay, > > > > A name made of a single letter is a bija, but names framed with 2, > 3 or 4 > > letters represent the chara, dvisbhava and sthira rasis and > characteristics > > of these rashis will imprint itself on the native. The namakshara > belongs to > > a particular nakshatra which is seen from the hoda chakra. > Determine the > > rashi of the namakshara and then analyse this rashi in the natal > chart. This > > nama rashi should be in either lagna or chandra kendra.Namarashi > in lagna > > kendra indicates a superior life and shows the amount of truth or > satya in > > the person's life. If this does not work, then opt for chandra > lagna. If the > > nama rashi is neither in lagna or Chandra kendra then the level of > suffering > > will be high as the amount of truth in the person will be low. > Satya or > > truth is strong in the lagna and Chandra kendras, stable in the > panapharas > > and declining in the apoklimas. > > > > Your daughter can have a name from Vrishabha rashi as the Moon is > in the > > Chandra kendra assuring a degree of fame or popularity. Mercury is > in the > > 7th from it forming a Sharada Yoga. Saturn in a upachaya is good. > Jupiter, > > Venus and AK Mars in the 5th is excellent for learning and bhakti. > Rahu in > > the 12th is good for spirituality. Technically, you can also opt > for a name > > from the rashis of Mithuna, Kanya and Dhanu as they are in lagna > kendra and > > in panaphara from the Moon. If you analyse the chart from all the > three > > options you will see that Mithuna is the best option. However, > between > > Mithuna and Vrishabha, Vrishabha is a better nama rashi, once you > have > > analysed the chart from both the signs. > > > > Moon is in the 4th pada of Taurus, so the akshara should be Vu to > be very > > precise. Otherwise you can choose the 'va' akshara in general. > Please choose > > a name with three aksharas as that will increase the satva guna in > her and > > would also be good for lagna pitha. As the Moon is exalted, maybe > a name of > > the Divine Mother would be appropriate? You can choose from the > mother's > > names such as Vaishnavi, Vijaya, Vimala, Vidhata, Vibhuti, > Vasudha, > > Vandita, Varuni, Vasavi, Vishala. Other common names are: Vidisha, > Vinita, > > Vaishakhi, Vandana. I hope this helps. > > > > Best Regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > > [] On > > Behalf Of abhayshaili > > 23 March 2006 11:49 > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Name ; Respected Vistiji > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Respected Visti larsen ji and sanjay rath ji > > charan sprash > > i have a daughter .please suggest Name according > to > > her horoscope , i know that jytoshi given name of moon rashi . but > i > > want a Name Rashi who gives my daughter succesful future , good > > health , religious , and good charactor as per lagna chart . > > my daughter birth detail is 31-10-2004,BT 16.35 , birth place is > > Delhi . also guru ji tell me about my daughter . > > Naman in guru charans > > abhay shaili > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > New > > > <http://us.rd./mail_us/taglines/postman4/*http:/us.rd.. > com/evt > > =39666/*http:/beta.messenger.> Messenger with Voice. 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Guest guest Posted March 25, 2006 Report Share Posted March 25, 2006 Dear Smt Lakshmi, namaste Could you expand a bit more on the meaning of those terms and how they are chosen? > Maasa naamnaa..Indumati> Nakshatra naamna...Bharati> Vyaavahaarika naamnaa...Lakshmi BTW, my original name was HariRam (3 aksharas; moon in dual sign) but later chopped to Hari (2 aksharas). Sarbani, would love your comments on this! Thanks in advance and best regards Hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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