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Dear Souravji/Vistiji,

 

I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !

 

Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1

almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp with

changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in D-1 is

now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique ! When seen

independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.

 

I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do

forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have made,

 

Warm regards,

ravish

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..Dear Ravish,

 

Few Points from Gurudev (Sanjay Rath)

 

"There are many rules correlatin the Rasi & Navamsa and I shall give you

some

for a start..

 

RULE 1) A planet, even if exalted in rasi chart, if debilitated in navamsa

can cause rajabhanga Neecha Yoga.

{Notes:

a) If the said planet in the Kendra or trikona from Arudha Lagna and is a

benefic, then the native himself has Rajabhanga Yoga.

b) If the said planet is a benefic and is in a dusthana like 3 or 6 from

arudha Lagna, then the natives enemies have Rajabhanga and the native

actually enjoys Rajyoga.

c) If the said planet is a malefic in Kendra or Trikona from Arudha Lagna

then the native enjoys Rajyoga by the destruction of evil around him.

d) If the said planet is a malefic and is placed in the 3 or 6 from AL, then

the native although aspiring for rajyoga will lose to his enemies.

 

RULE 2) The sign in the second house from the Navamsa Lagna as viewed in the

rasi chart, shall be the focus for the past Karma of the native to fructify

in this life. For example, if the Navamsa Lagna is in the 11th house from

Natal Lagna, then the second from this is the sign in the 12th house from

Natal lagna. this deals with Moksha and Jaimini accordingly prescribes

spirituality and Moksha.

 

RULE 3) The chara Karakas placed in kendra and trikona from the Navamsa

Lagna shall prosper whereas those in dusthana shall suffer. For example even

if the Atmakaraka is strong in the rasi chart, if it is in the 6th house the

native shall be afflicted by diseases.

 

I can just go on and on from my little grey memory left..."

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

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"Ravish" <smart_rapheal

<>

Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa

 

 

> Dear Souravji/Vistiji,

>

> I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !

>

> Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1

> almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp with

> changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in D-1 is

> now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique ! When seen

> independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.

>

> I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do

> forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have made,

>

> Warm regards,

> ravish

>

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

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>

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Dear Ravish.

 

This is from Guruji Visti Larsen:

 

"] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after marriage. See

the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues about our attitude,

abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our spouses. But when

analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are analyzing the bhägya which

is waiting to manifest in our lives. This way we have d1 as our life and its

overall indications whilst d9 is the luck we get in that same life. Example:

If you have a strong malefic in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1, then we say

that the native is fighter and may conquer his/her enemies. The native will

also show this trait outwardly, and we will all think that he/she will

conquer his enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9, that malefic is

debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the native to win, they loose

instead. we call this bad luck"

 

Regards

Rafal Gendarz

 

-

"Ravish" <smart_rapheal

<>

Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM

[Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa

 

 

> Dear Souravji/Vistiji,

>

> I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !

>

> Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1

> almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp with

> changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in D-1 is

> now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique ! When seen

> independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.

>

> I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do

> forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have made,

>

> Warm regards,

> ravish

>

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,

 

Thank you for providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my

understanding of D-9 !

 

My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya

Navamsa

(http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm), which

relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 !

 

D-9 seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits for us

! But the positions are always seen in respective divisions.

 

If we are to see: Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted

in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using

Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th

house ! Of course continuing on this course we also do get Ju & Me in

D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga

! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp or understand

this techniques premise & indications !

 

Warm regards,

ravish

 

 

, "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme

wrote:

>

> Dear Ravish.

>

> This is from Guruji Visti Larsen:

>

> "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after

marriage. See

> the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues about our

attitude,

> abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our spouses. But when

> analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are analyzing the

bhägya which

> is waiting to manifest in our lives. This way we have d1 as our life

and its

> overall indications whilst d9 is the luck we get in that same life.

Example:

> If you have a strong malefic in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,

then we say

> that the native is fighter and may conquer his/her enemies. The

native will

> also show this trait outwardly, and we will all think that he/she will

> conquer his enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9, that

malefic is

> debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the native to win,

they loose

> instead. we call this bad luck"

>

> Regards

> Rafal Gendarz

>

> -

> "Ravish" <smart_rapheal

> <>

> Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa

>

>

> > Dear Souravji/Vistiji,

> >

> > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !

> >

> > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1

> > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp with

> > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in D-1 is

> > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique ! When seen

> > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.

> >

> > I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do

> > forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have

made,

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > ravish

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

> > Links

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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D-9 seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits for us ! But

the positions are always seen in respective divisions. If we are to see: Sri

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the same

is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we arrive @ Ve

debiliated in Vi, 8th house ! Of course continuing on this course we also do

get Ju & Me in D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for Neecha Bhanga

Raja Yoga ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp or understand

this techniques premise & indications ! Warm regards, ravish --- In

, "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme wrote: > > Dear

Ravish. > > This is from Guruji Visti Larsen: > > "] Not everyone with a

debilitated planet in d9, suffers after marriage. See > the D9 when analyzed

independently will reveal issues about our attitude, > abilities, dharma, and

how we share these with our spouses. But when > analyzed in conjunction with

the d1, then we are analyzing the bh�gya which > is waiting to manifest in

our lives. This way we have d1 as our life and its > overall indications

whilst d9 is the luck we get in that same life. Example: > If you have a

strong malefic in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1, then we say > that the

native is fighter and may conquer his/her enemies. The native will > also show

this trait outwardly, and we will all think that he/she will > conquer his

enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9, that malefic is > debilitated

then whilst everyone is expecting the native to win, they loose > instead. we

call this bad luck" > > Regards > Rafal Gendarz > > ----- Original Message

-----

> "Ravish" <smart_rapheal > <> >

Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya

Navamsa > > > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji, > > > > I am in obvious need of more

guidance on this concept ! > > > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing

D-9 grahas on the d-1 > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do

we grasp with > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in

D-1 is > > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique ! When

seen > > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed. > > > > I hope

I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do > > forgive any

fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have made, > > > > Warm

regards, > >

ravish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for

maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the

Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian -

remember Akbar the Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become

a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> >

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Dear Michal,

 

Do you know where I can find this CD ? I looked up for it in Lakshmi

Kary's site but saw only 2004 conference CD listed.

 

Thank You,

 

ravish

 

, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal

wrote:

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Ravish,

>

> You want to get the 2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran from Serbia

won the best paper award for his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.

>

> Regards,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> Ravish <smart_rapheal wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,

>

> Thank you for providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my

> understanding of D-9 !

>

> My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya

> Navamsa

> (http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm), which

> relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 !

>

> D-9 seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits for us

> ! But the positions are always seen in respective divisions.

>

> If we are to see: Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted

> in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using

> Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th

> house ! Of course continuing on this course we also do get Ju & Me in

> D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga

> ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp or understand

> this techniques premise & indications !

>

> Warm regards,

> ravish

>

>

> , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Ravish.

> >

> > This is from Guruji Visti Larsen:

> >

> > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after

> marriage. See

> > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues about our

> attitude,

> > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our spouses. But when

> > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are analyzing the

> bh�gya which

> > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This way we have d1 as our life

> and its

> > overall indications whilst d9 is the luck we get in that same life.

> Example:

> > If you have a strong malefic in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,

> then we say

> > that the native is fighter and may conquer his/her enemies. The

> native will

> > also show this trait outwardly, and we will all think that he/she

will

> > conquer his enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9, that

> malefic is

> > debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the native to win,

> they loose

> > instead. we call this bad luck"

> >

> > Regards

> > Rafal Gendarz

> >

> > -

> > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>

> > <>

> > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa

> >

> >

> > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji,

> > >

> > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !

> > >

> > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1

> > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp with

> > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in D-1 is

> > > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !

When seen

> > > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.

> > >

> > > I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do

> > > forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have

> made,

> > >

> > > Warm regards,

> > > ravish

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> > > Links

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

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for his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa. > > Regards, > Michal > > [ Om Namo

Narayanaya ] > > Ravish <smart_rapheal wrote: Dear Rafalji &

Sumanthji, > > Thank you for providing me with pointers ! These have

furthered my > understanding of D-9 ! > > My confusion is with a

particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya > Navamsa >

(http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm), which >

relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 ! > > D-9 seen in

conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits for us > ! But the

positions are always seen in respective divisions. > > If we are to see: Sri

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart,

Ve is exalted > in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the same is debiliated in Vi in D-9.

Using > Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th >

house ! Of course continuing on this course we also do get Ju & Me in > D-1

Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga > ! I hope

you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp or understand > this techniques

premise & indications ! > > Warm regards, > ravish > > > --- In

, "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@> > wrote: > > >

> Dear Ravish. > > > > This is from Guruji Visti Larsen: > > > > "] Not

everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after > marriage. See > >

the D9

when analyzed independently will reveal issues about our > attitude, > >

abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our spouses. But when > >

analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are analyzing the > bh�gya

which > > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This way we have d1 as our

life > and its > > overall indications whilst d9 is the luck we get in that

same life. > Example: > > If you have a strong malefic in the 6th from

arudha lagna in d1, > then we say > > that the native is fighter and may

conquer his/her enemies. The > native will > > also show this trait

outwardly, and we will all think that he/she will > > conquer his enemies and

win any wars. But! If in the d9, that > malefic is > > debilitated then

whilst everyone

is expecting the native to win, > they loose > > instead. we call this bad

luck" > > > > Regards > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > ----- Original Message

----- > > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@> > > To:

<> > > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM > >

[Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa > > > > > > > Dear

Souravji/Vistiji, > > > > > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this

concept ! > > > > > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas

on the d-1 > > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp

with > > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house

in D-1 is > > > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !

When seen > > > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed. > > >

> > > I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do > > >

forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have > made, > >

> > > > Warm regards, > > > ravish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama

Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. >

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > reading

today > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for

maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the

Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian -

remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a

graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed -

do one free chart reading today > > > >

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Dear Michal and Ravish,

 

The only person who was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi Kary from the US. Michal

could not buy it from anywhere else, unless someone passed him a free copy,

which usually do the rounds in SJC. This is because many participants record it

and then they are distributed free. Even now, we have had a very low sale of

Delhi CDs because of that. Ravish, however, Lakshmi has just handed me a copy

of the Puri CD this January. So we are making copies and selling them. This

should be available by the middle of April. Thanks. I will make the

announcement.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal ] Saturday, March 25,

2006 1:45 AMSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Rasi Tulya Navamsa

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Ravish,I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try

Sarbani or another person in the administration there. From memory, my copy

came from there.Good luck,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Ravish

<smart_rapheal > wrote:

Dear Michal,Do you know where I can find this CD ? I looked up for it in

LakshmiKary's site but saw only 2004 conference CD listed. Thank You,ravish---

In , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichalwrote:>> [

Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Ravish,> > You want to get the 2005 Puri conference

CD's. Zoran from Serbiawon the best paper award for his lecture on Rasi Tulya

Navamsa.> > Regards,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > Ravish

<smart_rapheal wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,> > Thank you for

providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my> understanding of D-9 ! >

> My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya>

Navamsa> (http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm),

which> relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 ! > > D-9

seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits for us> ! But the

positions are always seen in respective divisions.> > If we are to see: Sri

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted> in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the

same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using> Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we

arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th> house ! Of course continuing on this course

we also do get Ju & Me in> D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga> ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp

or understand> this techniques premise & indications ! > > Warm regards,>

ravish> > > , "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Ravish.> > > > This is from Guruji Visti

Larsen:> > > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after>

marriage. See > > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues about

our> attitude, > > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our

spouses. But when > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are

analyzing the> bh�gya which > > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This

way we have d1 as our life> and its > > overall indications whilst d9 is the

luck we get in that same life.> Example: > > If you have a strong malefic in

the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,> then we say > > that the native is fighter

and may conquer his/her enemies. The> native will > > also show this trait

outwardly, and we will all think that he/shewill > > conquer his enemies and

win any wars. But! If in the d9, that> malefic is > > debilitated then whilst

everyone is expecting the native to win,> they loose > > instead. we call this

bad luck"> > > > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> > > > ----- Original Message

----- > > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>> > To:

<>> > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM> >

[Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa> > > > > > > Dear

Souravji/Vistiji,> > >> > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this

concept !> > >> > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on

the d-1> > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp

with> > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in D-1 is>

> > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !When seen> > >

independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.> > >> > > I hope I was

able to put across my confusion clearly, please do> > > forgive any

fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have> made,> > >> > > Warm

regards,> > > ravish> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ~ om tat

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II Om Gurave Namah IIHari om , Sarbani Nameste,

I have been a prticipant and recorded for personal hearing and revision, but

have not passed free copy except perhaps one of my room mate while at Delhi a

participant.

Inspite of it I have purchased all the CD including Bombay and delhi Just for

support and better listening as my own copies are not that good.

Servia CD are awaited Puri too i do not have.

This is for information only.

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:41 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Michal and Ravish,

 

The only person who was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi Kary from the US. Michal

could not buy it from anywhere else, unless someone passed him a free copy,

which usually do the rounds in SJC. This is because many participants record it

and then they are distributed free. Even now, we have had a very low sale of

Delhi CDs because of that. Ravish, however, Lakshmi has just handed me a copy

of the Puri CD this January. So we are making copies and selling them. This

should be available by the middle of April. Thanks. I will make the

announcement.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal ] Saturday, March 25,

2006 1:45 AMSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Rasi Tulya Navamsa

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Ravish,I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try

Sarbani or another person in the administration there. From memory, my copy

came from there.Good luck,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Ravish

<smart_rapheal > wrote: Dear Michal,Do you know where I can find this

CD ? I looked up for it in LakshmiKary's site but saw only 2004 conference CD

listed. Thank You,ravish, Michal Dziwulski

<nearmichalwrote:>> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Ravish,> > You want to get

the 2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran from Serbiawon the best paper award for

his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.> > Regards,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya

]> > Ravish <smart_rapheal wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,> > Thank

you for providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my> understanding of

D-9 ! > > My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya>

Navamsa> (http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm),

which> relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 ! > > D-9

seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits for us> ! But the

positions are always seen in respective divisions.> > If we are to see: Sri

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted> in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the

same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using> Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we

arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th> house ! Of course continuing on this course

we also do get Ju & Me in> D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga> ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp

or understand> this techniques premise & indications ! > > Warm regards,>

ravish> > > , "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Ravish.> > > > This is from Guruji Visti

Larsen:> > > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after>

marriage. See > > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues about

our> attitude, > > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our

spouses. But when > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are

analyzing the> bh�gya which > > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This

way we have d1 as our life> and its > > overall indications whilst d9 is the

luck we get in that same life.> Example: > > If you have a strong malefic in

the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,> then we say > > that the native is fighter

and may conquer his/her enemies. The> native will > > also show this trait

outwardly, and we will all think that he/shewill > > conquer his enemies and

win any wars. But! If in the d9, that> malefic is > > debilitated then whilst

everyone is expecting the native to win,> they loose > > instead. we call this

bad luck"> > > > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> > > > ----- Original Message

----- > > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>> > To:

<>> > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM> >

[Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa> > > > > > > Dear

Souravji/Vistiji,> > >> > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this

concept !> > >> > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on

the d-1> > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp

with> > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in D-1 is>

> > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !When seen> > >

independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.> > >> > > I hope I was

able to put across my confusion clearly, please do> > > forgive any

fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have> made,> > >> > > Warm

regards,> > > ravish> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ~ om tat

sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > >

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > (2) Try

to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said> that the > > >

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise

charity in thought and deed - do one free chart> reading today> > >

Groups Links> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > >

> > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'>

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who saidthat the human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in

thought and deed - do one free chartreading today > > > >

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Dear Sarbaniji & Michal,

 

Thank you, I guess I will have to wait for mid-April for this !

Meanwhile can anyone give me helpful pointers/hints to this concept ?

That would be really great !

 

Warm Regards,

ravish

 

, "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani wrote:

>

> Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

>

> Dear Michal and Ravish,

>

> The only person who was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi Kary from

the US.

> Michal could not buy it from anywhere else, unless someone passed

him a free

> copy, which usually do the rounds in SJC. This is because many

participants

> record it and then they are distributed free. Even now, we have had

a very

> low sale of Delhi CDs because of that. Ravish, however, Lakshmi has just

> handed me a copy of the Puri CD this January. So we are making

copies and

> selling them. This should be available by the middle of April. Thanks. I

> will make the announcement.

>

> Best Regards,

>

> Sarbani

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal]

> Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:45 AM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa

>

>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

>

> Dear Ravish,

>

> I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try Sarbani or another person

in the

> administration there. From memory, my copy came from there.

>

> Good luck,

> Michal

>

> [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

>

> Ravish <smart_rapheal wrote:

>

> Dear Michal,

>

> Do you know where I can find this CD ? I looked up for it in Lakshmi

> Kary's site but saw only 2004 conference CD listed.

>

> Thank You,

>

> ravish

>

> , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@>

> wrote:

> >

> > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> >

> > Dear Ravish,

> >

> > You want to get the 2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran from Serbia

> won the best paper award for his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Michal

> >

> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> >

> > Ravish <smart_rapheal@> wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,

> >

> > Thank you for providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my

> > understanding of D-9 !

> >

> > My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya

> > Navamsa

> > (http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm),

> <http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm%29,>

which

> > relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 !

> >

> > D-9 seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits

for us

> > ! But the positions are always seen in respective divisions.

> >

> > If we are to see: Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted

> > in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using

> > Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th

> > house ! Of course continuing on this course we also do get Ju & Me in

> > D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for Neecha Bhanga Raja

Yoga

> > ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp or understand

> > this techniques premise & indications !

> >

> > Warm regards,

> > ravish

> >

> >

> > , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Ravish.

> > >

> > > This is from Guruji Visti Larsen:

> > >

> > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after

> > marriage. See

> > > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues about our

> > attitude,

> > > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our spouses. But

when

> > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are analyzing the

> > bh�gya which

> > > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This way we have d1 as our

life

> > and its

> > > overall indications whilst d9 is the luck we get in that same life.

> > Example:

> > > If you have a strong malefic in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,

> > then we say

> > > that the native is fighter and may conquer his/her enemies. The

> > native will

> > > also show this trait outwardly, and we will all think that he/she

> will

> > > conquer his enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9, that

> > malefic is

> > > debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the native to win,

> > they loose

> > > instead. we call this bad luck"

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Rafal Gendarz

> > >

> > > -

> > > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>

> > > <>

> > > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa

> > >

> > >

> > > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji,

> > > >

> > > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !

> > > >

> > > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1

> > > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp with

> > > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in

D-1 is

> > > > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !

> When seen

> > > > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.

> > > >

> > > > I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do

> > > > forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have

> > made,

> > > >

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > ravish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> > that the

> > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> > > > Links

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Visit your group "" on the web.

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announcement. Best Regards, Sarbani Michal Dziwulski

[nearmichal ] Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:45 AMTo:

Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi

Tulya Navamsa [ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Ravish,I'm sure that SJC India must have

it. Try Sarbani or another person in the administration there. From memory,

my copy came from there.Good luck,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Ravish

<smart_rapheal > wrote: Dear Michal,Do you know where I can find this

CD ? I looked up for it in LakshmiKary's site but saw only 2004 conference CD

listed. Thank You,ravish, Michal Dziwulski

<nearmichalwrote:>> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Ravish,> > You want to get

the 2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran

from Serbiawon the best paper award for his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.> >

Regards,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > Ravish <smart_rapheal wrote:

Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,> > Thank you for providing me with pointers !

These have furthered my> understanding of D-9 ! > > My confusion is with a

particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya> Navamsa>

(http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm), which> relies

on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 ! > > D-9 seen in

conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits for us> ! But the

positions are always seen in respective divisions.> > If

we are to see: Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted> in 2nd house

Pi in D-1, the same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using> Rasi Tulya Navamsa

technique, we arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th> house ! Of course continuing

on this course we also do get Ju & Me in> D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which

accounts for Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga> ! I hope you can see my confusion, am

unable to grasp or understand> this techniques premise & indications ! > >

Warm regards,> ravish> > > , "Rafal

Gendarz" <starsuponme@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Ravish.> > > > This is from

Guruji Visti Larsen:> > > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9,

suffers after> marriage. See > > the D9 when analyzed independently will

reveal issues about our> attitude, > > abilities, dharma, and how we share

these with our spouses. But when > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then

we are analyzing the> bh�gya which > > is waiting to manifest in our lives.

This way we have d1 as our life> and its > > overall indications whilst d9 is

the luck we get in that same life.> Example: > > If you have a strong malefic

in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,> then we say > > that the native is

fighter and may conquer his/her enemies. The> native will > > also show this

trait outwardly, and we will all think that he/shewill > > conquer his enemies

and win any wars. But! If in

the d9, that> malefic is > > debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the

native to win,> they loose > > instead. we call this bad luck"> > > >

Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> > > > - > >

"Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>> > <>> > Sent:

Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM> > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya

Navamsa> > > > > > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji,> > >> > > I am in obvious need

of more guidance on this concept !> > >> > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant &

imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1> > > almost gives totally different indications

! How do we grasp with> > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in

own house in D-1 is> > > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this

technique !When seen> > > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well

placed.> > >> > > I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly,

please do> > > forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may

have> made,> > >> > > Warm regards,> > > ravish> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

>> > >> > >> > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum

of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said> that the > > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart>

reading today> > > Links> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >

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Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who saidthat the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chartreading

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may fall into debt. I hope I am explaining this well enough to do it justice.

The main point is that it does not take over from the original Rasi placement,

but is an addition to it. I hope this helps.Respectfully,Michal[ Om Namo

Narayanaya ]Ravish <smart_rapheal > wrote: Dear Sarbaniji & Michal,

Thank you, I guess I will have to wait for mid-April for this ! Meanwhile can

anyone give me helpful pointers/hints to this concept ? That would be really

great ! Warm Regards, ravish , "Sarbani

Sarkar" <sarbani wrote: > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami > > Dear Michal and

Ravish, > > The only person who was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi

Kary from the US. > Michal could not buy it from anywhere else, unless someone

passed him a free > copy, which usually do the rounds in SJC. This is because

many participants > record it and then they are distributed free. Even now, we

have had a very > low sale of Delhi CDs because of that. Ravish, however,

Lakshmi has just > handed me a copy of the Puri CD this January. So we are

making copies and > selling them. This should be available by the middle of

April. Thanks. I > will make the announcement. > > Best Regards, > >

Sarbani > > > > > _____ > > Michal Dziwulski

[nearmichal] > Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:45 AM > To:

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya

Navamsa > > > [ Hare

Rama Krsna ] > > Dear Ravish, > > I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try

Sarbani or another person in the > administration there. From memory, my copy

came from there. > > Good luck, > Michal > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > >

Ravish <smart_rapheal wrote: > > Dear Michal, > > Do you know where I

can find this CD ? I looked up for it in Lakshmi > Kary's site but saw only

2004 conference CD listed. > > Thank You, > > ravish > > --- In

, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@> > wrote: > > > > [

Hare Rama Krsna ] > > > > Dear Ravish, > > > > You want to get the 2005 Puri

conference CD's. Zoran from Serbia > won the best paper award for his lecture

on Rasi Tulya Navamsa. > >

> > Regards, > > Michal > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ] > > > > Ravish

<smart_rapheal@> wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji, > > > > Thank you for

providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my > > understanding of D-9

! > > > > My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called Rasi

Tulya > > Navamsa > >

(http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm), >

<http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm%29,> which > >

relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 ! > > > > D-9

seen in conjunction with d-1

reveals the bhagya that awaits for us > > ! But the positions are always seen

in respective divisions. > > > > If we are to see: Sri Ramakrishna

Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted > > in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the same is

debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using > > Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we arrive @

Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th > > house ! Of course continuing on this course we

also do get Ju & Me in > > D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga > > ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to

grasp or understand > > this techniques premise & indications ! > > > >

Warm regards, > > ravish > > > > > > ,

"Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@> > > wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Ravish. > > > > > > This is from Guruji Visti Larsen: > >

> > > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after > >

marriage. See > > > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues

about our > > attitude, > > > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with

our spouses. But when > > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are

analyzing the > > bh�gya which > > > is waiting to manifest in our lives.

This way we have d1 as our life > > and its > > > overall indications whilst

d9 is the luck we get in that same life. > > Example: > > > If you have a

strong malefic in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1, > >

then we say > > > that the native is fighter and may conquer his/her enemies.

The > > native will > > > also show this trait outwardly, and we will all

think that he/she > will > > > conquer his enemies and win any wars. But! If

in the d9, that > > malefic is > > > debilitated then whilst everyone is

expecting the native to win, > > they loose > > > instead. we call this bad

luck" > > > > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > ----- Original

Message ----- > > > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@> > > > To:

<> > > > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa >

> > > > > > > > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji, > > > > > > > > I am in obvious

need of more guidance on this concept ! > > > > > > > > Keeping the rasi

lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1 > > > > almost gives totally

different indications ! How do we grasp with > > > > changes such as a graha

which is well placed in own house in D-1 is > > > > now placed in a dusthana

in D-1 after using this technique ! > When seen > > > > independently from D-9

these grahas maybe well placed. > > > > > > > > I hope I was able to put

across my confusion clearly, please do > > > > forgive any fundamental

mistakes in understanding that I may have > > made, >

> > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > ravish > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Dear Michal/Ravish,

Namaskar. Kindly permit me to add a

little to this. Rasi Tulya Navamsa, for example, literally means Comparing Rasi

with Navamsa. Now, think about the word "comparing". Comparing can be in many

ways. Let us say, I am comparing a father and his son. I can compare them based

on their physical traits like height, weight, etc. Or I can compare them based

on their talents. Or I can compare them based on their status like money,

houses etc they possess. Thus comparison can be done in many ways and similarly

when we do Rasi Tulya Navamsa we openup many new possibilities of comparison of

a person's Rasi Chart (physical level life) with Navamsa (Fruits coming from

past life's karma). So just keep this idea in mind that comparison can be done

from various angles.

Now, in Nadi literature like Deva Keralam, Bhrigu Nadi etc., certain of these

aspects are taken into account and elaborated. In order to understand them, let

me suggest that one should get familiarity with the termilogy of this comparison

process.

Suppose Rasi chart has Kanya Lagna and Sun is in Tula in Rasi and Mithuna in

Navamsa. Hence if you transpose Sun from Navamsa sign into his Rasi Chart

position, Sun is placed in the 10th house in the rasi chart and hence Sun is in

what is called as karma-amsa. (Sun's navamsa is in karma-bhava of the Rasi

chart). Thus Sun indicates fruits (past life's fruits) that are fructifying in

the karma-bhava of the person. So each amsa (i.e. Navamsa sign gets connected

to a bhava of the Rasi Chart). So from first house through 12-th house, then

names would be lagnamsa, vittamsa, vikramamsa, sukhamsa, putramsa,

sashtamsa/ariamsa, Kalatraamsa, ashtamaamsa/nidhanaamsa, bhagyamsa/dharmaamsa,

karmamsa, labhamsa and finally vyayamsa. There can be some variations of the

names based on context. For example, for the 8th house, it can sometimes be

refered to as nidhanamsa and 8th house is associated with death/transformation.

Now, in the above example, Sun (say in Tula) will be called karmaamsa-yuktah (i.e. in karmaamsa).

>From the terminology, it is clear that one method of comparison is seeing where

the fruits of a karma is getting delivered. Another method is seeing Transits

of Saturn and Jupiter in a particular sign in rasi chart and see which planets

are delivering the results. I will explain this a little bit more but first

lets see why Saturn and Jupiter transits are important. Saturn delivers

sanchita paapa (sins) and Jupiter delivers Sanchita punya (blessings) of

previous birth(s). Moreover, Saturn and Jupiter are the slow moving grahas and

hence are more important to look at as they stay in a particular sign for a

longer duration. Rahu and Ketu are also karmic planets and slow moving too and

hence their transits are also important to consider.

Now, again take the above example. Kanya lagna, Sun in 2nd house in Tula and in

Mithuna Navamsa. Now Sun is lord of the 12-th house and that is 8th from the

5th house. Hence Sun potentially contains the ability to disturn 5H things

(putra, mantra etc) and Shani is the deliverer of the sanchita paapa effects

and so when Shani is transiting Sun's Navamsa (i.e. Mithuna) bad effects to the

5H gets delivered). This is how Shani's transits with navamsa and rasi charts

are connected. Now, from the literature it is said that is Saturn transits

trines of Mithuna then also the possibility of giving these results are there.

Now I will give a a dictum from Deva Keralam which reflects this:

"Saturn's transit in a sign identical with the Navamsa occupied by the lord of

the 8th from a given Bhava or a trine thereof on the degree of that sign lord,

will destroy the good effects due to that Bhava" (Deva Keralam, Book 3, Verse

3151-52) (Quoted from "Predicting through Navamsa and Nadi Astrology")

Again, "Saturn trasits he sign represented by the navamsa occupied by the lord

of the ascendant, or a trine thereof, on the degree of that sign lord, one's

maternal uncle will face evils and maternal-grandmother will be mentally

disturbed "

Now, in my chart, I have seen this to happen. My lagna lord is in Meena Navamsa

and when Saturn was transiting the Karka rasi which is trines to the Meena, my

maternal uncle's wife suddenly expired. Why? Because 4th house is mother and 3rd

from the 4th house is 6th house. Hence lagna is 8th from the 6th house and lagna

lord being in Meena navamsa, Saturn's trinal transit to Meena causes difficulty

to the 6th Bhava (mother's brothers).

Thus there are many ways to look at Rasi and Navamsa combined and they are

variously named Rasi Tulya Navamsa and Navamsa Tulya Rasi etc. which are mostly

to be found in Nadi techniques and also in various traditions.

You can review two short articles in Varahamihira.blogspot.com by Guru Sarajit Poddar:

1. http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/rasi-tulya-navamsa.html

2. http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/navamsa-tulya-rasi.html

Hope this helps a little.

Best wishes,

Sourav

=================================================================

 

 

, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:>>

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Ravish,> > I'll try to summarize the basic point.

See the planets Navamsa Rasi, and transpose that position into the Rasi chart.

During the dasa of the planet, it will give the results of its placement in

Rasi, as well as the additional results of its transposed position. For

example: if Moon is in Aries in Lagna in Rasi chart, and is placed in Scorpio

Navamsa, then during the dasa of the Moon we can say that certain things will

transpire due to Moon in Aries in Lagna ie. the person may be looking after

themselves well, they may be experiencing popularity etc. On top of this

however there will also be some adverse effects coming from the 8th house ie.

the person may become sick, may fall into debt. I hope I am explaining this

well enough to do it justice. The main point is that it does not take over from

the original Rasi placement, but is an addition to it. I hope this helps.> >

Respectfully,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > Ravish smart_rapheal

wrote: Dear Sarbaniji & Michal,> > Thank you, I guess I will have to wait for

mid-April for this !> Meanwhile can anyone give me helpful pointers/hints to

this concept ?> That would be really great !> > Warm Regards,> ravish> > --- In

, "Sarbani Sarkar" sarbani@ wrote:> >> > Shri

Brahmadaru Smarami> > > > Dear Michal and Ravish,> > > > The only person who

was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi Kary from> the US.> > Michal could not buy

it from anywhere else, unless someone passed> him a free> > copy, which usually

do the rounds in SJC. This is because many> participants> > record it and then

they are distributed free. Even now, we have had> a very> > low sale of Delhi

CDs because of that. Ravish, however, Lakshmi has just> > handed me a copy of

the Puri CD this January. So we are making> copies and> > selling them. This

should be available by the middle of April. Thanks. I> > will make the

announcement.> > > > Best Regards,> > > > Sarbani> > > > > > > > > > _____ > >

> > Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@] > > Saturday, March 25,

2006 1:45 AM> > > > Re: [Om Krishna

Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa> > > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > Dear

Ravish,> > > > I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try Sarbani or another

person> in the> > administration there. From memory, my copy came from there.>

> > > Good luck,> > Michal> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > Ravish

smart_rapheal@ wrote: > > > > Dear Michal,> > > > Do you know where I can find

this CD ? I looked up for it in Lakshmi> > Kary's site but saw only 2004

conference CD listed. > > > > Thank You,> > > > ravish> > > > --- In

, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@>> > wrote:> > >> >

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > > > > Dear Ravish,> > > > > > You want to get the

2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran from Serbia> > won the best paper award for

his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Michal> > > > > > [

Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > > > > Ravish <smart_rapheal@> wrote: Dear Rafalji &

Sumanthji,> > > > > > Thank you for providing me with pointers ! These have

furthered my> > > understanding of D-9 ! > > > > > > My confusion is with a

particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya> > > Navamsa> > >

(http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm),> >

<http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm%29,>> which> > >

relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 ! > > > > > > D-9 seen

in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits> for us> > > ! But the

positions are always seen in respective divisions.> > > > > > If we are to see:

Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted> > > in 2nd house Pi in D-1,

the same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using> > > Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique,

we arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th> > > house ! Of course continuing on this

course we also do get Ju & Me in> > > D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which

accounts for Neecha Bhanga Raja> Yoga> > > ! I hope you can see my confusion,

am unable to grasp or understand> > > this techniques premise & indications ! >

> > > > > Warm regards,> > > ravish> > > > > > > > > --- In

, "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@>> > > wrote:> > >

>> > > > Dear Ravish.> > > > > > > > This is from Guruji Visti Larsen:> > > > >

> > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after> > >

marriage. See > > > > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues

about our> > > attitude, > > > > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with

our spouses. But> when > > > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are

analyzing the> > > bh�gya which > > > > is waiting to manifest in our lives.

This way we have d1 as our> life> > > and its > > > > overall indications

whilst d9 is the luck we get in that same life.> > > Example: > > > > If you

have a strong malefic in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,> > > then we say > >

> > that the native is fighter and may conquer his/her enemies. The> > > native

will > > > > also show this trait outwardly, and we will all think that he/she>

> will > > > > conquer his enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9, that> >

> malefic is > > > > debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the native to

win,> > > they loose > > > > instead. we call this bad luck"> > > > > > > >

Regards> > > > Rafal Gendarz> > > > > > > > - > > >

> "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>> > > > > > >

> Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi

Tulya Navamsa> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji,> > > > >> > > > >

I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !> > > > >> > > > >

Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the d-1> > > > >

almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp with> > > > >

changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in> D-1 is> > > > >

now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !> > When seen> > >

> > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.> > > > >> > > > > I

hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please do> > > > > forgive

any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have> > > made,> > > > >>

> > > > Warm regards,> > > > > ravish> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >

> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > > > Thank you for

maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite

the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > > > (2) Try to become

Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said> > > that the > > > > > human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > > > (3) Practise

charity in thought and deed - do one free chart> > > reading today> > > > >

Links> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > >

> >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> >

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders:

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Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said> > that the human stomach should

not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and

deed - do one free chart> > reading today > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Thank you Srivastavji.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

Swami Daivyaga [swami_rcs ] Saturday, March 25, 2006

7:53 PMSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi

Tulya Navamsa

 

II Om Gurave Namah IIHari om , Sarbani Nameste,

I have been a prticipant and recorded for personal hearing and revision, but

have not passed free copy except perhaps one of my room mate while at Delhi a

participant.

Inspite of it I have purchased all the CD including Bombay and delhi Just for

support and better listening as my own copies are not that good.

Servia CD are awaited Puri too i do not have.

This is for information only.

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Saturday, March 25, 2006 7:41 PM

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa

Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

 

Dear Michal and Ravish,

 

The only person who was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi Kary from the US. Michal

could not buy it from anywhere else, unless someone passed him a free copy,

which usually do the rounds in SJC. This is because many participants record it

and then they are distributed free. Even now, we have had a very low sale of

Delhi CDs because of that. Ravish, however, Lakshmi has just handed me a copy

of the Puri CD this January. So we are making copies and selling them. This

should be available by the middle of April. Thanks. I will make the

announcement.

 

Best Regards,

 

Sarbani

 

 

 

Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal ] Saturday, March 25,

2006 1:45 AMSubject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Rasi Tulya Navamsa

[ Hare Rama Krsna ]Dear Ravish,I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try

Sarbani or another person in the administration there. From memory, my copy

came from there.Good luck,Michal[ Om Namo Narayanaya ]Ravish

<smart_rapheal > wrote: Dear Michal,Do you know where I can find this

CD ? I looked up for it in LakshmiKary's site but saw only 2004 conference CD

listed. Thank You,ravish, Michal Dziwulski

<nearmichalwrote:>> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > Dear Ravish,> > You want to get

the 2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran from Serbiawon the best paper award for

his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.> > Regards,> Michal> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya

]> > Ravish <smart_rapheal wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,> > Thank

you for providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my> understanding of

D-9 ! > > My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya>

Navamsa> (http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm),

which> relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 ! > > D-9

seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits for us> ! But the

positions are always seen in respective divisions.> > If we are to see: Sri

Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is exalted> in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the

same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using> Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we

arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th> house ! Of course continuing on this course

we also do get Ju & Me in> D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for

Neecha Bhanga Raja Yoga> ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp

or understand> this techniques premise & indications ! > > Warm regards,>

ravish> > > , "Rafal Gendarz"

<starsuponme@>> wrote:> >> > Dear Ravish.> > > > This is from Guruji Visti

Larsen:> > > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after>

marriage. See > > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues about

our> attitude, > > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our

spouses. But when > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are

analyzing the> bh�gya which > > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This

way we have d1 as our life> and its > > overall indications whilst d9 is the

luck we get in that same life.> Example: > > If you have a strong malefic in

the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,> then we say > > that the native is fighter

and may conquer his/her enemies. The> native will > > also show this trait

outwardly, and we will all think that he/shewill > > conquer his enemies and

win any wars. But! If in the d9, that> malefic is > > debilitated then whilst

everyone is expecting the native to win,> they loose > > instead. we call this

bad luck"> > > > Regards> > Rafal Gendarz> > > > ----- Original Message

----- > > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>> > To:

<>> > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM> >

[Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa> > > > > > > Dear

Souravji/Vistiji,> > >> > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this

concept !> > >> > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on

the d-1> > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp

with> > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in D-1 is>

> > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !When seen> > >

independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.> > >> > > I hope I was

able to put across my confusion clearly, please do> > > forgive any

fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may have> made,> > >> > > Warm

regards,> > > ravish> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ~ om tat

sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > >

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > (2) Try

to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said> that the > > >

human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise

charity in thought and deed - do one free chart> reading today> > >

Groups Links> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> > > > >

> > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'>

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who saidthat the human

stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in

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Dear Souravji/Michal,

 

Thank you for getting me more than started on this concept !

 

Transits as per Deva Keralam have opened up many things for me. I have

two recent incidents to further this.

 

My maternal uncle suffered throughout the Sa's transit through Ge,

this would make more sense if we see in my chart, that Rasi lagna

lord, Ve which is in Libra (6th house) in D-1 is in Aq navamsa. Ge is

in trine to Aq ! However it is not that his condition has totally

improved with Sa's transit into Karaka.

 

Another incident would be mothers recent diagnosis of breast cancer in

an advanced stage (She is currently recuperating), Sa is currently in

Cn & Ra in Pi, which is 9th & 5th from Sc which has Ju in my D-9. Ju

in D-1 lords 8th & 11th, 11th being 8th from the 4th house, so 4th

house indications are bound to suffer. It is no wonder that am having

trouble with house construction as well :( !

 

But of course we cannot go overboard with transits as these are to be

viewed only after seeing current dasas in progress. It is in this

regard that my next question arises:

 

Sa is currently transiting Cn which has Su & Ke in my D-9. Su is the

8th from 9th house, indidcating trouble to indications of 9th house.

Moreover Ju-Ke-Su will start on Apr 4th, I fear for my fathers health

as he is a heart patient as well. Are my fears unbiased ?

 

These thoughts may no be well atriculated but only show a logical

progression made while writing this response...So please do forgive

any lack of clarity or incoherence in expressing these thoughts !

 

My birth details:

 

Nov 17th 1978

17:51

Bangalore

 

Warm Regards,

ravish

 

 

, "Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Michal/Ravish,

>

> Namaskar. Kindly permit

me to

> add a little to this. Rasi Tulya Navamsa, for example, literally means

> Comparing Rasi with Navamsa. Now, think about the word "comparing".

> Comparing can be in many ways. Let us say, I am comparing a father and

> his son. I can compare them based on their physical traits like height,

> weight, etc. Or I can compare them based on their talents. Or I can

> compare them based on their status like money, houses etc they possess.

> Thus comparison can be done in many ways and similarly when we do Rasi

> Tulya Navamsa we openup many new possibilities of comparison of a

> person's Rasi Chart (physical level life) with Navamsa (Fruits coming

> from past life's karma). So just keep this idea in mind that comparison

> can be done from various angles.

>

> Now, in Nadi literature like Deva Keralam, Bhrigu Nadi etc., certain of

> these aspects are taken into account and elaborated. In order to

> understand them, let me suggest that one should get familiarity with the

> termilogy of this comparison process.

>

> Suppose Rasi chart has Kanya Lagna and Sun is in Tula in Rasi and

> Mithuna in Navamsa. Hence if you transpose Sun from Navamsa sign into

> his Rasi Chart position, Sun is placed in the 10th house in the rasi

> chart and hence Sun is in what is called as karma-amsa. (Sun's navamsa

> is in karma-bhava of the Rasi chart). Thus Sun indicates fruits (past

> life's fruits) that are fructifying in the karma-bhava of the person. So

> each amsa (i.e. Navamsa sign gets connected to a bhava of the Rasi

> Chart). So from first house through 12-th house, then names would be

> lagnamsa, vittamsa, vikramamsa, sukhamsa, putramsa, sashtamsa/ariamsa,

> Kalatraamsa, ashtamaamsa/nidhanaamsa, bhagyamsa/dharmaamsa, karmamsa,

> labhamsa and finally vyayamsa. There can be some variations of the

> names based on context. For example, for the 8th house, it can sometimes

> be refered to as nidhanamsa and 8th house is associated with

> death/transformation.

>

> Now, in the above example, Sun (say in Tula) will be called

> karmaamsa-yuktah (i.e. in karmaamsa).

>

> From the terminology, it is clear that one method of comparison is

> seeing where the fruits of a karma is getting delivered. Another method

> is seeing Transits of Saturn and Jupiter in a particular sign in rasi

> chart and see which planets are delivering the results. I will explain

> this a little bit more but first lets see why Saturn and Jupiter

> transits are important. Saturn delivers sanchita paapa (sins) and

> Jupiter delivers Sanchita punya (blessings) of previous birth(s).

> Moreover, Saturn and Jupiter are the slow moving grahas and hence are

> more important to look at as they stay in a particular sign for a longer

> duration. Rahu and Ketu are also karmic planets and slow moving too and

> hence their transits are also important to consider.

>

> Now, again take the above example. Kanya lagna, Sun in 2nd house in Tula

> and in Mithuna Navamsa. Now Sun is lord of the 12-th house and that is

> 8th from the 5th house. Hence Sun potentially contains the ability to

> disturn 5H things (putra, mantra etc) and Shani is the deliverer of the

> sanchita paapa effects and so when Shani is transiting Sun's Navamsa

> (i.e. Mithuna) bad effects to the 5H gets delivered). This is how

> Shani's transits with navamsa and rasi charts are connected. Now, from

> the literature it is said that is Saturn transits trines of Mithuna then

> also the possibility of giving these results are there. Now I will give

> a a dictum from Deva Keralam which reflects this:

>

> "Saturn's transit in a sign identical with the Navamsa occupied by the

> lord of the 8th from a given Bhava or a trine thereof on the degree of

> that sign lord, will destroy the good effects due to that Bhava" (Deva

> Keralam, Book 3, Verse 3151-52) (Quoted from "Predicting through Navamsa

> and Nadi Astrology")

>

> Again, "Saturn trasits he sign represented by the navamsa occupied by

> the lord of the ascendant, or a trine thereof, on the degree of that

> sign lord, one's maternal uncle will face evils and maternal-grandmother

> will be mentally disturbed "

>

> Now, in my chart, I have seen this to happen. My lagna lord is in Meena

> Navamsa and when Saturn was transiting the Karka rasi which is trines to

> the Meena, my maternal uncle's wife suddenly expired. Why? Because 4th

> house is mother and 3rd from the 4th house is 6th house. Hence lagna is

> 8th from the 6th house and lagna lord being in Meena navamsa, Saturn's

> trinal transit to Meena causes difficulty to the 6th Bhava (mother's

> brothers).

>

> Thus there are many ways to look at Rasi and Navamsa combined and they

> are variously named Rasi Tulya Navamsa and Navamsa Tulya Rasi etc. which

> are mostly to be found in Nadi techniques and also in various

> traditions.

>

> You can review two short articles in Varahamihira.blogspot.com by Guru

> Sarajit Poddar:

>

> 1. http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/rasi-tulya-navamsa.html

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/rasi-tulya-navamsa.html>

>

> 2. http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/navamsa-tulya-rasi.html

> <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/navamsa-tulya-rasi.html>

>

> Hope this helps a little.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Sourav

>

> =================================================================

, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@>

> wrote:

> >

> > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> >

> > Dear Ravish,

> >

> > I'll try to summarize the basic point. See the planets Navamsa Rasi,

> and transpose that position into the Rasi chart. During the dasa of the

> planet, it will give the results of its placement in Rasi, as well as

> the additional results of its transposed position. For example: if Moon

> is in Aries in Lagna in Rasi chart, and is placed in Scorpio Navamsa,

> then during the dasa of the Moon we can say that certain things will

> transpire due to Moon in Aries in Lagna ie. the person may be looking

> after themselves well, they may be experiencing popularity etc. On top

> of this however there will also be some adverse effects coming from the

> 8th house ie. the person may become sick, may fall into debt. I hope I

> am explaining this well enough to do it justice. The main point is that

> it does not take over from the original Rasi placement, but is an

> addition to it. I hope this helps.

> >

> > Respectfully,

> > Michal

> >

> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> >

> > Ravish smart_rapheal@ wrote: Dear Sarbaniji & Michal,

> >

> > Thank you, I guess I will have to wait for mid-April for this !

> > Meanwhile can anyone give me helpful pointers/hints to this concept ?

> > That would be really great !

> >

> > Warm Regards,

> > ravish

> >

> > , "Sarbani Sarkar" sarbani@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> > >

> > > Dear Michal and Ravish,

> > >

> > > The only person who was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi Kary from

> > the US.

> > > Michal could not buy it from anywhere else, unless someone passed

> > him a free

> > > copy, which usually do the rounds in SJC. This is because many

> > participants

> > > record it and then they are distributed free. Even now, we have had

> > a very

> > > low sale of Delhi CDs because of that. Ravish, however, Lakshmi has

> just

> > > handed me a copy of the Puri CD this January. So we are making

> > copies and

> > > selling them. This should be available by the middle of April.

> Thanks. I

> > > will make the announcement.

> > >

> > > Best Regards,

> > >

> > > Sarbani

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@]

> > > Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:45 AM

> > >

> > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa

> > >

> > >

> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> > >

> > > Dear Ravish,

> > >

> > > I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try Sarbani or another person

> > in the

> > > administration there. From memory, my copy came from there.

> > >

> > > Good luck,

> > > Michal

> > >

> > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> > >

> > > Ravish smart_rapheal@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Michal,

> > >

> > > Do you know where I can find this CD ? I looked up for it in Lakshmi

> > > Kary's site but saw only 2004 conference CD listed.

> > >

> > > Thank You,

> > >

> > > ravish

> > >

> > > , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@>

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ravish,

> > > >

> > > > You want to get the 2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran from Serbia

> > > won the best paper award for his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > > Michal

> > > >

> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> > > >

> > > > Ravish <smart_rapheal@> wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,

> > > >

> > > > Thank you for providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my

> > > > understanding of D-9 !

> > > >

> > > > My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called Rasi Tulya

> > > > Navamsa

> > > > (http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm),

> > > <http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm%29,>

> > which

> > > > relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 !

> > > >

> > > > D-9 seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits

> > for us

> > > > ! But the positions are always seen in respective divisions.

> > > >

> > > > If we are to see: Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is

> exalted

> > > > in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using

> > > > Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th

> > > > house ! Of course continuing on this course we also do get Ju & Me

> in

> > > > D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for Neecha Bhanga Raja

> > Yoga

> > > > ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp or

> understand

> > > > this techniques premise & indications !

> > > >

> > > > Warm regards,

> > > > ravish

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , "Rafal Gendarz"

> <starsuponme@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ravish.

> > > > >

> > > > > This is from Guruji Visti Larsen:

> > > > >

> > > > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers after

> > > > marriage. See

> > > > > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues about our

> > > > attitude,

> > > > > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our spouses. But

> > when

> > > > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are analyzing the

> > > > bh�gya which

> > > > > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This way we have d1 as our

> > life

> > > > and its

> > > > > overall indications whilst d9 is the luck we get in that same

> life.

> > > > Example:

> > > > > If you have a strong malefic in the 6th from arudha lagna in d1,

> > > > then we say

> > > > > that the native is fighter and may conquer his/her enemies. The

> > > > native will

> > > > > also show this trait outwardly, and we will all think that

> he/she

> > > will

> > > > > conquer his enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9, that

> > > > malefic is

> > > > > debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the native to win,

> > > > they loose

> > > > > instead. we call this bad luck"

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > >

> > > > > -

> > > > > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>

> > > > >

> > > > > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM

> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the

> d-1

> > > > > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp

> with

> > > > > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in

> > D-1 is

> > > > > > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !

> > > When seen

> > > > > > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please

> do

> > > > > > forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may

> have

> > > > made,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > > ravish

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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> > > > > >

> > > > > >

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Dear Ravish,Namaskar ,

Just i wanted to tell you there is complte chapter

named " Rasi Tulya Navamsa and Navamsa Tulya rasi "

in the Book Navamsa in astrology by Sh.C.S.Patel.

In case you need classical reference understanig can be expanded

by going through the hints given there in.

 

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Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:32 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa

Dear Souravji/Michal,Thank you for getting me more than started on this concept

! Transits as per Deva Keralam have opened up many things for me. I havetwo

recent incidents to further this.My maternal uncle suffered throughout the Sa's

transit through Ge,this would make more sense if we see in my chart, that Rasi

lagnalord, Ve which is in Libra (6th house) in D-1 is in Aq navamsa. Ge isin

trine to Aq ! However it is not that his condition has totallyimproved with

Sa's transit into Karaka.Another incident would be mothers recent diagnosis of

breast cancer inan advanced stage (She is currently recuperating), Sa is

currently inCn & Ra in Pi, which is 9th & 5th from Sc which has Ju in my D-9.

Juin D-1 lords 8th & 11th, 11th being 8th from the 4th house, so 4thhouse

indications are bound to suffer. It is no wonder that am havingtrouble with

house construction as well :( !But of course we cannot go overboard with

transits as these are to beviewed only after seeing current dasas in progress.

It is in thisregard that my next question arises:Sa is currently transiting Cn

which has Su & Ke in my D-9. Su is the8th from 9th house, indidcating trouble

to indications of 9th house.Moreover Ju-Ke-Su will start on Apr 4th, I fear for

my fathers healthas he is a heart patient as well. Are my fears unbiased ? These

thoughts may no be well atriculated but only show a logicalprogression made

while writing this response...So please do forgiveany lack of clarity or

incoherence in expressing these thoughts !My birth details:Nov 17th

197817:51BangaloreWarm Regards,ravish,

"Sourav" <souravc108 wrote:>> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > Dear

Michal/Ravish,> > Namaskar. Kindly

permitme to> add a little to this. Rasi Tulya Navamsa, for example, literally

means> Comparing Rasi with Navamsa. Now, think about the word "comparing".>

Comparing can be in many ways. Let us say, I am comparing a father and> his

son. I can compare them based on their physical traits like height,> weight,

etc. Or I can compare them based on their talents. Or I can> compare them based

on their status like money, houses etc they possess.> Thus comparison can be

done in many ways and similarly when we do Rasi> Tulya Navamsa we openup many

new possibilities of comparison of a> person's Rasi Chart (physical level life)

with Navamsa (Fruits coming> from past life's karma). So just keep this idea in

mind that comparison> can be done from various angles.> > Now, in Nadi

literature like Deva Keralam, Bhrigu Nadi etc., certain of> these aspects are

taken into account and elaborated. In order to> understand them, let me suggest

that one should get familiarity with the> termilogy of this comparison process.>

> Suppose Rasi chart has Kanya Lagna and Sun is in Tula in Rasi and> Mithuna in

Navamsa. Hence if you transpose Sun from Navamsa sign into> his Rasi Chart

position, Sun is placed in the 10th house in the rasi> chart and hence Sun is

in what is called as karma-amsa. (Sun's navamsa> is in karma-bhava of the Rasi

chart). Thus Sun indicates fruits (past> life's fruits) that are fructifying in

the karma-bhava of the person. So> each amsa (i.e. Navamsa sign gets connected

to a bhava of the Rasi> Chart). So from first house through 12-th house, then

names would be> lagnamsa, vittamsa, vikramamsa, sukhamsa, putramsa,

sashtamsa/ariamsa,> Kalatraamsa, ashtamaamsa/nidhanaamsa, bhagyamsa/dharmaamsa,

karmamsa,> labhamsa and finally vyayamsa. There can be some variations of the>

names based on context. For example, for the 8th house, it can sometimes> be

refered to as nidhanamsa and 8th house is associated with>

death/transformation.> > Now, in the above example, Sun (say in Tula) will be

called> karmaamsa-yuktah (i.e. in karmaamsa).> > From the terminology, it is

clear that one method of comparison is> seeing where the fruits of a karma is

getting delivered. Another method> is seeing Transits of Saturn and Jupiter in

a particular sign in rasi> chart and see which planets are delivering the

results. I will explain> this a little bit more but first lets see why Saturn

and Jupiter> transits are important. Saturn delivers sanchita paapa (sins) and>

Jupiter delivers Sanchita punya (blessings) of previous birth(s).> Moreover,

Saturn and Jupiter are the slow moving grahas and hence are> more important to

look at as they stay in a particular sign for a longer> duration. Rahu and Ketu

are also karmic planets and slow moving too and> hence their transits are also

important to consider.> > Now, again take the above example. Kanya lagna, Sun

in 2nd house in Tula> and in Mithuna Navamsa. Now Sun is lord of the 12-th

house and that is> 8th from the 5th house. Hence Sun potentially contains the

ability to> disturn 5H things (putra, mantra etc) and Shani is the deliverer of

the> sanchita paapa effects and so when Shani is transiting Sun's Navamsa> (i.e.

Mithuna) bad effects to the 5H gets delivered). This is how> Shani's transits

with navamsa and rasi charts are connected. Now, from> the literature it is

said that is Saturn transits trines of Mithuna then> also the possibility of

giving these results are there. Now I will give> a a dictum from Deva Keralam

which reflects this:> > "Saturn's transit in a sign identical with the Navamsa

occupied by the> lord of the 8th from a given Bhava or a trine thereof on the

degree of> that sign lord, will destroy the good effects due to that Bhava"

(Deva> Keralam, Book 3, Verse 3151-52) (Quoted from "Predicting through

Navamsa> and Nadi Astrology")> > Again, "Saturn trasits he sign represented by

the navamsa occupied by> the lord of the ascendant, or a trine thereof, on the

degree of that> sign lord, one's maternal uncle will face evils and

maternal-grandmother> will be mentally disturbed "> > Now, in my chart, I have

seen this to happen. My lagna lord is in Meena> Navamsa and when Saturn was

transiting the Karka rasi which is trines to> the Meena, my maternal uncle's

wife suddenly expired. Why? Because 4th> house is mother and 3rd from the 4th

house is 6th house. Hence lagna is> 8th from the 6th house and lagna lord being

in Meena navamsa, Saturn's> trinal transit to Meena causes difficulty to the 6th

Bhava (mother's> brothers).> > Thus there are many ways to look at Rasi and

Navamsa combined and they> are variously named Rasi Tulya Navamsa and Navamsa

Tulya Rasi etc. which> are mostly to be found in Nadi techniques and also in

various> traditions.> > You can review two short articles in

Varahamihira.blogspot.com by Guru> Sarajit Poddar:> > 1.

http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/rasi-tulya-navamsa.html>

<http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/rasi-tulya-navamsa.html>> > 2.

http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/navamsa-tulya-rasi.html>

<http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/navamsa-tulya-rasi.html>> > Hope this

helps a little.> > Best wishes,> > Sourav> >

=================================================================> > > > > > >

, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@>> wrote:> >>

> [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> >> > Dear Ravish,> >> > I'll try to summarize the basic

point. See the planets Navamsa Rasi,> and transpose that position into the Rasi

chart. During the dasa of the> planet, it will give the results of its placement

in Rasi, as well as> the additional results of its transposed position. For

example: if Moon> is in Aries in Lagna in Rasi chart, and is placed in Scorpio

Navamsa,> then during the dasa of the Moon we can say that certain things will>

transpire due to Moon in Aries in Lagna ie. the person may be looking> after

themselves well, they may be experiencing popularity etc. On top> of this

however there will also be some adverse effects coming from the> 8th house ie.

the person may become sick, may fall into debt. I hope I> am explaining this

well enough to do it justice. The main point is that> it does not take over

from the original Rasi placement, but is an> addition to it. I hope this

helps.> >> > Respectfully,> > Michal> >> > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> >> > Ravish

smart_rapheal@ wrote: Dear Sarbaniji & Michal,> >> > Thank you, I guess I will

have to wait for mid-April for this !> > Meanwhile can anyone give me helpful

pointers/hints to this concept ?> > That would be really great !> >> > Warm

Regards,> > ravish> >> > , "Sarbani Sarkar"

sarbani@ wrote:> > >> > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami> > >> > > Dear Michal and

Ravish,> > >> > > The only person who was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi Kary

from> > the US.> > > Michal could not buy it from anywhere else, unless someone

passed> > him a free> > > copy, which usually do the rounds in SJC. This is

because many> > participants> > > record it and then they are distributed free.

Even now, we have had> > a very> > > low sale of Delhi CDs because of that.

Ravish, however, Lakshmi has> just> > > handed me a copy of the Puri CD this

January. So we are making> > copies and> > > selling them. This should be

available by the middle of April.> Thanks. I> > > will make the announcement.>

> >> > > Best Regards,> > >> > > Sarbani> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > _____> > >> >

> Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@]> > > Saturday, March 25,

2006 1:45 AM> > > > > > Re: [Om

Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa> > >> > >> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > >> >

> Dear Ravish,> > >> > > I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try Sarbani or

another person> > in the> > > administration there. From memory, my copy came

from there.> > >> > > Good luck,> > > Michal> > >> > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]>

> >> > > Ravish smart_rapheal@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Michal,> > >> > > Do you

know where I can find this CD ? I looked up for it in Lakshmi> > > Kary's site

but saw only 2004 conference CD listed.> > >> > > Thank You,> > >> > > ravish>

> >> > > , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@>> >

> wrote:> > > >> > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]> > > >> > > > Dear Ravish,> > > >> >

> > You want to get the 2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran from Serbia> > > won

the best paper award for his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.> > > >> > > >

Regards,> > > > Michal> > > >> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]> > > >> > > >

Ravish <smart_rapheal@> wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,> > > >> > > > Thank

you for providing me with pointers ! These have furthered my> > > >

understanding of D-9 !> > > >> > > > My confusion is with a particular Nadi

technique called Rasi Tulya> > > > Navamsa> > > >

(http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm),> > >

<http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm%29,>> > which> >

> > relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 !> > > >> > > >

D-9 seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that awaits> > for us> > >

> ! But the positions are always seen in respective divisions.> > > >> > > > If

we are to see: Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is> exalted> > > > in 2nd

house Pi in D-1, the same is debiliated in Vi in D-9. Using> > > > Rasi Tulya

Navamsa technique, we arrive @ Ve debiliated in Vi, 8th> > > > house ! Of

course continuing on this course we also do get Ju & Me> in> > > > D-1 Aquarius

Lagna as well, which accounts for Neecha Bhanga Raja> > Yoga> > > > ! I hope you

can see my confusion, am unable to grasp or> understand> > > > this techniques

premise & indications !> > > >> > > > Warm regards,> > > > ravish> > > >> > >

>> > > > , "Rafal Gendarz"> <starsuponme@>>

> > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Ravish.> > > > >> > > > > This is from

Guruji Visti Larsen:> > > > >> > > > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated

planet in d9, suffers after> > > > marriage. See> > > > > the D9 when analyzed

independently will reveal issues about our> > > > attitude,> > > > > abilities,

dharma, and how we share these with our spouses. But> > when> > > > > analyzed

in conjunction with the d1, then we are analyzing the> > > > bh�gya which> >

> > > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This way we have d1 as our> > life>

> > > and its> > > > > overall indications whilst d9 is the luck we get in that

same> life.> > > > Example:> > > > > If you have a strong malefic in the 6th

from arudha lagna in d1,> > > > then we say> > > > > that the native is fighter

and may conquer his/her enemies. The> > > > native will> > > > > also show this

trait outwardly, and we will all think that> he/she> > > will> > > > > conquer

his enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9, that> > > > malefic is> > > >

> debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the native to win,> > > > they

loose> > > > > instead. we call this bad luck"> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > >

> Rafal Gendarz> > > > >> > > > > -> > > > >

"Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>> > > > > > > > > >

Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM> > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi

Tulya Navamsa> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji,> > > > > >> >

> > > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !> > > > > >> > >

> > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas on the> d-1> > > > >

> almost gives totally different indications ! How do we grasp> with> > > > > >

changes such as a graha which is well placed in own house in> > D-1 is> > > > >

> now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this technique !> > > When seen> >

> > > > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.> > > > > >> > > >

> > I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly, please> do> > > > > >

forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that I may> have> > > >

made,> > > > > >> > > > > > Warm regards,> > > > > > ravish> > > > > >> > > > >

>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ~ om tat sat

~> > > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > >

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Dear Srivastavaji,

 

Thank you, I do not have this book, I will try and look around for the

same !

 

Warm Regards,

ravish

 

, "Swami Daivyaga" <swami_rcs

wrote:

>

>

> II Om Gurave Namah II

> Hari om , Friend,

> Dear Ravish,Namaskar ,

> Just i wanted to tell you there is complte chapter

> named " Rasi Tulya Navamsa and Navamsa Tulya rasi "

> in the Book Navamsa in astrology by Sh.C.S.Patel.

> In case you need classical reference understanig can be expanded

> by going through the hints given there in.

>

> HARI OM TATSAT

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>

> Sunday, March 26, 2006 11:32 AM

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa

>

>

> Dear Souravji/Michal,

>

> Thank you for getting me more than started on this concept !

>

> Transits as per Deva Keralam have opened up many things for me. I have

> two recent incidents to further this.

>

> My maternal uncle suffered throughout the Sa's transit through Ge,

> this would make more sense if we see in my chart, that Rasi lagna

> lord, Ve which is in Libra (6th house) in D-1 is in Aq navamsa. Ge is

> in trine to Aq ! However it is not that his condition has totally

> improved with Sa's transit into Karaka.

>

> Another incident would be mothers recent diagnosis of breast cancer in

> an advanced stage (She is currently recuperating), Sa is currently in

> Cn & Ra in Pi, which is 9th & 5th from Sc which has Ju in my D-9. Ju

> in D-1 lords 8th & 11th, 11th being 8th from the 4th house, so 4th

> house indications are bound to suffer. It is no wonder that am having

> trouble with house construction as well :( !

>

> But of course we cannot go overboard with transits as these are to be

> viewed only after seeing current dasas in progress. It is in this

> regard that my next question arises:

>

> Sa is currently transiting Cn which has Su & Ke in my D-9. Su is the

> 8th from 9th house, indidcating trouble to indications of 9th house.

> Moreover Ju-Ke-Su will start on Apr 4th, I fear for my fathers health

> as he is a heart patient as well. Are my fears unbiased ?

>

> These thoughts may no be well atriculated but only show a logical

> progression made while writing this response...So please do forgive

> any lack of clarity or incoherence in expressing these thoughts !

>

> My birth details:

>

> Nov 17th 1978

> 17:51

> Bangalore

>

> Warm Regards,

> ravish

>

>

> , "Sourav" <souravc108@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||

> >

> > Dear Michal/Ravish,

> >

> > Namaskar. Kindly permit

> me to

> > add a little to this. Rasi Tulya Navamsa, for example, literally

means

> > Comparing Rasi with Navamsa. Now, think about the word "comparing".

> > Comparing can be in many ways. Let us say, I am comparing a

father and

> > his son. I can compare them based on their physical traits like

height,

> > weight, etc. Or I can compare them based on their talents. Or I can

> > compare them based on their status like money, houses etc they

possess.

> > Thus comparison can be done in many ways and similarly when we

do Rasi

> > Tulya Navamsa we openup many new possibilities of comparison of a

> > person's Rasi Chart (physical level life) with Navamsa (Fruits

coming

> > from past life's karma). So just keep this idea in mind that

comparison

> > can be done from various angles.

> >

> > Now, in Nadi literature like Deva Keralam, Bhrigu Nadi etc.,

certain of

> > these aspects are taken into account and elaborated. In order to

> > understand them, let me suggest that one should get familiarity

with the

> > termilogy of this comparison process.

> >

> > Suppose Rasi chart has Kanya Lagna and Sun is in Tula in Rasi and

> > Mithuna in Navamsa. Hence if you transpose Sun from Navamsa sign

into

> > his Rasi Chart position, Sun is placed in the 10th house in the rasi

> > chart and hence Sun is in what is called as karma-amsa. (Sun's

navamsa

> > is in karma-bhava of the Rasi chart). Thus Sun indicates fruits

(past

> > life's fruits) that are fructifying in the karma-bhava of the

person. So

> > each amsa (i.e. Navamsa sign gets connected to a bhava of the Rasi

> > Chart). So from first house through 12-th house, then names would be

> > lagnamsa, vittamsa, vikramamsa, sukhamsa, putramsa,

sashtamsa/ariamsa,

> > Kalatraamsa, ashtamaamsa/nidhanaamsa, bhagyamsa/dharmaamsa,

karmamsa,

> > labhamsa and finally vyayamsa. There can be some variations of the

> > names based on context. For example, for the 8th house, it can

sometimes

> > be refered to as nidhanamsa and 8th house is associated with

> > death/transformation.

> >

> > Now, in the above example, Sun (say in Tula) will be called

> > karmaamsa-yuktah (i.e. in karmaamsa).

> >

> > From the terminology, it is clear that one method of comparison is

> > seeing where the fruits of a karma is getting delivered. Another

method

> > is seeing Transits of Saturn and Jupiter in a particular sign in

rasi

> > chart and see which planets are delivering the results. I will

explain

> > this a little bit more but first lets see why Saturn and Jupiter

> > transits are important. Saturn delivers sanchita paapa (sins) and

> > Jupiter delivers Sanchita punya (blessings) of previous birth(s).

> > Moreover, Saturn and Jupiter are the slow moving grahas and

hence are

> > more important to look at as they stay in a particular sign for

a longer

> > duration. Rahu and Ketu are also karmic planets and slow moving

too and

> > hence their transits are also important to consider.

> >

> > Now, again take the above example. Kanya lagna, Sun in 2nd house

in Tula

> > and in Mithuna Navamsa. Now Sun is lord of the 12-th house and

that is

> > 8th from the 5th house. Hence Sun potentially contains the

ability to

> > disturn 5H things (putra, mantra etc) and Shani is the deliverer

of the

> > sanchita paapa effects and so when Shani is transiting Sun's Navamsa

> > (i.e. Mithuna) bad effects to the 5H gets delivered). This is how

> > Shani's transits with navamsa and rasi charts are connected.

Now, from

> > the literature it is said that is Saturn transits trines of

Mithuna then

> > also the possibility of giving these results are there. Now I

will give

> > a a dictum from Deva Keralam which reflects this:

> >

> > "Saturn's transit in a sign identical with the Navamsa occupied

by the

> > lord of the 8th from a given Bhava or a trine thereof on the

degree of

> > that sign lord, will destroy the good effects due to that Bhava"

(Deva

> > Keralam, Book 3, Verse 3151-52) (Quoted from "Predicting through

Navamsa

> > and Nadi Astrology")

> >

> > Again, "Saturn trasits he sign represented by the navamsa

occupied by

> > the lord of the ascendant, or a trine thereof, on the degree of that

> > sign lord, one's maternal uncle will face evils and

maternal-grandmother

> > will be mentally disturbed "

> >

> > Now, in my chart, I have seen this to happen. My lagna lord is

in Meena

> > Navamsa and when Saturn was transiting the Karka rasi which is

trines to

> > the Meena, my maternal uncle's wife suddenly expired. Why?

Because 4th

> > house is mother and 3rd from the 4th house is 6th house. Hence

lagna is

> > 8th from the 6th house and lagna lord being in Meena navamsa,

Saturn's

> > trinal transit to Meena causes difficulty to the 6th Bhava (mother's

> > brothers).

> >

> > Thus there are many ways to look at Rasi and Navamsa combined

and they

> > are variously named Rasi Tulya Navamsa and Navamsa Tulya Rasi

etc. which

> > are mostly to be found in Nadi techniques and also in various

> > traditions.

> >

> > You can review two short articles in Varahamihira.blogspot.com

by Guru

> > Sarajit Poddar:

> >

> > 1. http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/rasi-tulya-navamsa.html

> > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/rasi-tulya-navamsa.html>

> >

> > 2. http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/navamsa-tulya-rasi.html

> > <http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2005/11/navamsa-tulya-rasi.html>

> >

> > Hope this helps a little.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Sourav

> >

> > =================================================================

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> > >

> > > Dear Ravish,

> > >

> > > I'll try to summarize the basic point. See the planets Navamsa

Rasi,

> > and transpose that position into the Rasi chart. During the dasa

of the

> > planet, it will give the results of its placement in Rasi, as

well as

> > the additional results of its transposed position. For example:

if Moon

> > is in Aries in Lagna in Rasi chart, and is placed in Scorpio

Navamsa,

> > then during the dasa of the Moon we can say that certain things will

> > transpire due to Moon in Aries in Lagna ie. the person may be

looking

> > after themselves well, they may be experiencing popularity etc.

On top

> > of this however there will also be some adverse effects coming

from the

> > 8th house ie. the person may become sick, may fall into debt. I

hope I

> > am explaining this well enough to do it justice. The main point

is that

> > it does not take over from the original Rasi placement, but is an

> > addition to it. I hope this helps.

> > >

> > > Respectfully,

> > > Michal

> > >

> > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> > >

> > > Ravish smart_rapheal@ wrote: Dear Sarbaniji & Michal,

> > >

> > > Thank you, I guess I will have to wait for mid-April for this !

> > > Meanwhile can anyone give me helpful pointers/hints to this

concept ?

> > > That would be really great !

> > >

> > > Warm Regards,

> > > ravish

> > >

> > > , "Sarbani Sarkar" sarbani@

wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Shri Brahmadaru Smarami

> > > >

> > > > Dear Michal and Ravish,

> > > >

> > > > The only person who was selling the Puri CD was Lakshmi Kary

from

> > > the US.

> > > > Michal could not buy it from anywhere else, unless someone

passed

> > > him a free

> > > > copy, which usually do the rounds in SJC. This is because many

> > > participants

> > > > record it and then they are distributed free. Even now, we

have had

> > > a very

> > > > low sale of Delhi CDs because of that. Ravish, however,

Lakshmi has

> > just

> > > > handed me a copy of the Puri CD this January. So we are making

> > > copies and

> > > > selling them. This should be available by the middle of April.

> > Thanks. I

> > > > will make the announcement.

> > > >

> > > > Best Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Sarbani

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > _____

> > > >

> > > > Michal Dziwulski [nearmichal@]

> > > > Saturday, March 25, 2006 1:45 AM

> > > >

> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Rasi Tulya Navamsa

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> > > >

> > > > Dear Ravish,

> > > >

> > > > I'm sure that SJC India must have it. Try Sarbani or another

person

> > > in the

> > > > administration there. From memory, my copy came from there.

> > > >

> > > > Good luck,

> > > > Michal

> > > >

> > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> > > >

> > > > Ravish smart_rapheal@ wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Dear Michal,

> > > >

> > > > Do you know where I can find this CD ? I looked up for it in

Lakshmi

> > > > Kary's site but saw only 2004 conference CD listed.

> > > >

> > > > Thank You,

> > > >

> > > > ravish

> > > >

> > > > , Michal Dziwulski

<nearmichal@>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > [ Hare Rama Krsna ]

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Ravish,

> > > > >

> > > > > You want to get the 2005 Puri conference CD's. Zoran from

Serbia

> > > > won the best paper award for his lecture on Rasi Tulya Navamsa.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards,

> > > > > Michal

> > > > >

> > > > > [ Om Namo Narayanaya ]

> > > > >

> > > > > Ravish <smart_rapheal@> wrote: Dear Rafalji & Sumanthji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thank you for providing me with pointers ! These have

furthered my

> > > > > understanding of D-9 !

> > > > >

> > > > > My confusion is with a particular Nadi technique called

Rasi Tulya

> > > > > Navamsa

> > > > >

(http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm),

> > > >

<http://.org/jyotishlessons/lessons/rasi-tulya.htm%29,>

> > > which

> > > > > relies on super-imposing graha positions in D-9 on to D-1 !

> > > > >

> > > > > D-9 seen in conjunction with d-1 reveals the bhagya that

awaits

> > > for us

> > > > > ! But the positions are always seen in respective divisions.

> > > > >

> > > > > If we are to see: Sri Ramakrishna Paramahamsa's chart, Ve is

> > exalted

> > > > > in 2nd house Pi in D-1, the same is debiliated in Vi in

D-9. Using

> > > > > Rasi Tulya Navamsa technique, we arrive @ Ve debiliated in

Vi, 8th

> > > > > house ! Of course continuing on this course we also do get

Ju & Me

> > in

> > > > > D-1 Aquarius Lagna as well, which accounts for Neecha

Bhanga Raja

> > > Yoga

> > > > > ! I hope you can see my confusion, am unable to grasp or

> > understand

> > > > > this techniques premise & indications !

> > > > >

> > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > ravish

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > , "Rafal Gendarz"

> > <starsuponme@>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Ravish.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > This is from Guruji Visti Larsen:

> > > > > >

> > > > > > "] Not everyone with a debilitated planet in d9, suffers

after

> > > > > marriage. See

> > > > > > the D9 when analyzed independently will reveal issues

about our

> > > > > attitude,

> > > > > > abilities, dharma, and how we share these with our

spouses. But

> > > when

> > > > > > analyzed in conjunction with the d1, then we are

analyzing the

> > > > > bh�gya which

> > > > > > is waiting to manifest in our lives. This way we have d1

as our

> > > life

> > > > > and its

> > > > > > overall indications whilst d9 is the luck we get in that

same

> > life.

> > > > > Example:

> > > > > > If you have a strong malefic in the 6th from arudha

lagna in d1,

> > > > > then we say

> > > > > > that the native is fighter and may conquer his/her

enemies. The

> > > > > native will

> > > > > > also show this trait outwardly, and we will all think that

> > he/she

> > > > will

> > > > > > conquer his enemies and win any wars. But! If in the d9,

that

> > > > > malefic is

> > > > > > debilitated then whilst everyone is expecting the native

to win,

> > > > > they loose

> > > > > > instead. we call this bad luck"

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards

> > > > > > Rafal Gendarz

> > > > > >

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > "Ravish" <smart_rapheal@>

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Thursday, March 23, 2006 4:38 PM

> > > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Rasi Tulya Navamsa

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Souravji/Vistiji,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I am in obvious need of more guidance on this concept !

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Keeping the rasi lagna constant & imposing D-9 grahas

on the

> > d-1

> > > > > > > almost gives totally different indications ! How do we

grasp

> > with

> > > > > > > changes such as a graha which is well placed in own

house in

> > > D-1 is

> > > > > > > now placed in a dusthana in D-1 after using this

technique !

> > > > When seen

> > > > > > > independently from D-9 these grahas maybe well placed.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I hope I was able to put across my confusion clearly,

please

> > do

> > > > > > > forgive any fundamental mistakes in understanding that

I may

> > have

> > > > > made,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Warm regards,

> > > > > > > ravish

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> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~

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Ashram.

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> > Krishna'

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