Guest guest Posted January 25, 2006 Report Share Posted January 25, 2006 was unplanned, it was a pleasant and whole-heartedly accepted surprise for all concerned. Between the loss of the 3rd and beginning of the current pregnancy I had dreamt of Shivji giving me my jyotirlinga mantra which I have been reciting ever since. Also, the detection of acutely low amniotic fluid level happened on Jan 20, 2006. The foetus is in good health as per the latest evaluations and the doctor's have been unable to detect any specific cause behind the drop in amniotic fluid level as of date. More tests have been prescribed in the next 1-3 weeks. Please provide us further insight about the current pregnancy based on the added information in this email. Also, please share your thoughts on our progenic luck in the future. Regards Supriti"R.C.Srivastava" <swami_rcs > wrote: *|| OM MAHAGANAPATAYE NAMAH ||*"Om Namah Shivaaya Omkareshvaraaya Om Om Sah". Hariom, Dear find attached readings. wish you good luck. || May all people be happy ||OM TAT SATR.C.Srivastava .swami_rcs mob 9412268768http://www.cosmograce.comhttp://www.cosmograce.blogspot.com Bring words and photos together (easily) with PhotoMail - it's free and works with your Mail. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 I think there are plenty of other sites. I enjoy this group because there are no requests for readings. if you start giving readings then it loses the great insight that us learned astrologers can share with each other. there should be more control and censorship, so sorry david, but I disagree. there is no need for another group that does readings. there are plenty of other that do readings. if others agree then we can just form another group and keep on forming groups with more control. I can list so many groups focused on jyotish that end up to be a reading center. you have to understand that this group is great because we can focus on astrological principles. this group is meant for that. it started that way and I believe we should maintain that way. I am not trying to be fanatical about it or controlling about it. but I have noticed in the last few weeks that the nature of the group has changed. well still open to figuring out what is best for the group as I think that we should just focus on astrological principles. I have learned a lot from many astrologers in this group and very grateful for their input and understanding of astrological principles. I think readings are a great distraction and will bring a great nuisance to the structure of this group. sincerely, __________________________ __________________________ Raja Gursahani 15690 Orchard Way Kerman, CA 93630 (cell) 314.761.3134 rajagursahani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Dear List, I concur with the views expressed. If requests for readings are entertained then it will create a lot of noise on the group. Majority of list memebrs on other list join just to get a reading. I agree that the principles discussed here have to be practiced to be of any value and as such we should take example cases if it illustrates a point, but not encourage request for readings. Satish --- Raja Gursahani <rajagursahani > wrote: > I think there are plenty of other sites. I enjoy > this group because there > are no requests for readings. if you start giving > readings then it loses the > great insight that us learned astrologers can share > with each other. there > should be more control and censorship, so sorry > david, but I disagree. there > is no need for another group that does readings. > there are plenty of other > that do readings. if others agree then > we can just form another > group and keep on forming groups with more control. > I can list so many > groups focused on jyotish that end up to be a > reading center. you have to > understand that this group is great because we can > focus on astrological > principles. this group is meant for that. it started > that way and I believe > we should maintain that way. I am not trying to be > fanatical about it or > controlling about it. but I have noticed in the last > few weeks that the > nature of the group has changed. well still open to > figuring out what is > best for the group as I think that we should just > focus on astrological > principles. I have learned a lot from many > astrologers in this group and > very grateful for their input and understanding of > astrological principles. > I think readings are a great distraction and will > bring a great nuisance to > the structure of this group. > > > > sincerely, > > > > __________________________ > __________________________ > > Raja Gursahani > > 15690 Orchard Way > > Kerman, CA 93630 > > (cell) 314.761.3134 > > rajagursahani > > > > > > > > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 5, 2006 Report Share Posted July 5, 2006 Perhaps if readings are posted with astrological reasoning (incomplete as it may be) then it could be educational. Mind you, the negative side is that then some individuals will start taking that apart and then it quickly becomes a dog's breakfast! It is difficult to fully capture in all details all reasoning that went into a given reading. It usually is not a look-up table (if x is in y and looking at z and so on, then this or that will happen) and can be a layered multifactorial consideration and the pattern recognition is easier and quicker than the describing. These are all real considerations ... A reading is like going to a restaurant and eating the food. Jyotish charcha is more like looking at a recipe and wondering what would happen if we replaced one spice with another... RR , "Raja Gursahani" <rajagursahani wrote: > > I think there are plenty of other sites. I enjoy this group because there > are no requests for readings. if you start giving readings then it loses the > great insight that us learned astrologers can share with each other. there > should be more control and censorship, so sorry david, but I disagree. there > is no need for another group that does readings. there are plenty of other > that do readings. if others agree then we can just form another > group and keep on forming groups with more control. I can list so many > groups focused on jyotish that end up to be a reading center. you have to > understand that this group is great because we can focus on astrological > principles. this group is meant for that. it started that way and I believe > we should maintain that way. I am not trying to be fanatical about it or > controlling about it. but I have noticed in the last few weeks that the > nature of the group has changed. well still open to figuring out what is > best for the group as I think that we should just focus on astrological > principles. I have learned a lot from many astrologers in this group and > very grateful for their input and understanding of astrological principles. > I think readings are a great distraction and will bring a great nuisance to > the structure of this group. > > > > sincerely, > > > > ____________________ ______ > __________________________ > > Raja Gursahani > > 15690 Orchard Way > > Kerman, CA 93630 > > (cell) 314.761.3134 > > rajagursahani > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 6, 2006 Report Share Posted July 6, 2006 most importantly is that the intellectual level of this group has to be acknowledged. I have noticed that many group members really want to become the best astrologer that they can become. I totally would like to see that because I believe vedic astrology/jyotish is the greatest science. this science has changed my life on a personal level and I am sure other great astrologers would concur the same feeling. what I suggest is that there is more control. the moderator should feel free to make sure that no readings occur. I think everyone will enjoy the experience better. otherwise we just form another group. but I don't want to do that. because then we have more jyotish groups. there are so many jyotish groups in the system. its just a waste of marketing time and effort. there are so many good astrologers in this group sharing so much of their knowledge. I really do like this group a lot. its an amazing group of astrologers who really do talk about all issues that pop up in the intellectual world of jyotish. I mean we discuss everything including mantras, remedies, anything that has been ambiguous for astrologers. we have to be very honest with ourselves and realize that we are stronger as a group when it comes to being great astrologers than by learning by ourselves. as we all know there are 12 signs that mercury can fall into not mentioning the fact that there are 27 nakshatras that mercury can fall into and then padas also increase those differences of perception as mercury rules perception and learning. so you see we all are bring a different mercurial analysis that is very important for our understanding of the cosmology of this great system. well I hope others can look at it this way and see that they are more than welcome to do readings on other groups and still get the same altruistic benefit they are searching for. but they are going to be very pleased that they can come to a place where they are accepted and can share their insight as well as questions regarding astrological principles as this will greatly enhance their astrological practices or improve their readings with others on other groups. therefore we are doing a great service by this and also enhancing the glory of this great science. sincerely, raja gursahani __________________________ __________________________ Raja Gursahani 15690 Orchard Way Kerman, CA 93630 (cell) 314.761.3134 rajagursahani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Dear Raja... One cannot play a piano by reading a book or discussing principles. One must practice "playing" the piano. So, too, with astrologers, we must practice our principles, and what better way than by providing readings? When we help someone who has asked for our help, then we are both doing a charity and practicing our craft. Moreover, other people on this list may also review the readings and will note the principles we are using. So the learning value is there for newer members and astrologers. On this list, readings always have been optional. It seems unusual to say we are going to talk about astrology, but not put it into practice. Best wishes, David Hawthorne - Raja Gursahani Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:10 PM re: readings most importantly is that the intellectual level of this group has to be acknowledged. I have noticed that many group members really want to become the best astrologer that they can become. I totally would like to see that because I believe vedic astrology/jyotish is the greatest science. this science has changed my life on a personal level and I am sure other great astrologers would concur the same feeling. what I suggest is that there is more control. the moderator should feel free to make sure that no readings occur. I think everyone will enjoy the experience better. otherwise we just form another group. but I don't want to do that. because then we have more jyotish groups. there are so many jyotish groups in the system. its just a waste of marketing time and effort. there are so many good astrologers in this group sharing so much of their knowledge. I really do like this group a lot. its an amazing group of astrologers who really do talk about all issues that pop up in the intellectual world of jyotish. I mean we discuss everything including mantras, remedies, anything that has been ambiguous for astrologers. we have to be very honest with ourselves and realize that we are stronger as a group when it comes to being great astrologers than by learning by ourselves. as we all know there are 12 signs that mercury can fall into not mentioning the fact that there are 27 nakshatras that mercury can fall into and then padas also increase those differences of perception as mercury rules perception and learning. so you see we all are bring a different mercurial analysis that is very important for our understanding of the cosmology of this great system. well I hope others can look at it this way and see that they are more than welcome to do readings on other groups and still get the same altruistic benefit they are searching for. but they are going to be very pleased that they can come to a place where they are accepted and can share their insight as well as questions regarding astrological principles as this will greatly enhance their astrological practices or improve their readings with others on other groups. therefore we are doing a great service by this and also enhancing the glory of this great science. sincerely, raja gursahani __________________________ __________________________ Raja Gursahani 15690 Orchard Way Kerman, CA 93630 (cell) 314.761.3134 rajagursahani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 Dear Mr. Hawthorne, I couldn't agree with you more. You've hit it right on the head. Best Wishes, Arun , "David Hawthorne" <david wrote: > > Dear Raja... > > One cannot play a piano by reading a book or discussing principles. > > One must practice "playing" the piano. > > So, too, with astrologers, we must practice our principles, and what better way than by providing readings? > > When we help someone who has asked for our help, then we are both doing a charity and practicing our craft. > > Moreover, other people on this list may also review the readings and will note the principles we are using. > > So the learning value is there for newer members and astrologers. > > On this list, readings always have been optional. > > It seems unusual to say we are going to talk about astrology, but not put it into practice. > > Best wishes, > > David Hawthorne > > > > > > > - > Raja Gursahani > > Thursday, July 06, 2006 2:10 PM > re: readings > > > most importantly is that the intellectual level of this group has to be > acknowledged. I have noticed that many group members really want to become > the best astrologer that they can become. I totally would like to see that > because I believe vedic astrology/jyotish is the greatest science. this > science has changed my life on a personal level and I am sure other great > astrologers would concur the same feeling. what I suggest is that there is > more control. the moderator should feel free to make sure that no readings > occur. I think everyone will enjoy the experience better. otherwise we just > form another group. but I don't want to do that. because then we have more > jyotish groups. there are so many jyotish groups in the group system. > its just a waste of marketing time and effort. there are so many good > astrologers in this group sharing so much of their knowledge. I really do > like this group a lot. its an amazing group of astrologers who really do > talk about all issues that pop up in the intellectual world of jyotish. I > mean we discuss everything including mantras, remedies, anything that has > been ambiguous for astrologers. we have to be very honest with ourselves > and realize that we are stronger as a group when it comes to being great > astrologers than by learning by ourselves. as we all know there are 12 signs > that mercury can fall into not mentioning the fact that there are 27 > nakshatras that mercury can fall into and then padas also increase those > differences of perception as mercury rules perception and learning. so you > see we all are bring a different mercurial analysis that is very important > for our understanding of the cosmology of this great system. well I hope > others can look at it this way and see that they are more than welcome to do > readings on other groups and still get the same altruistic benefit they are > searching for. but they are going to be very pleased that they can come to a > place where they are accepted and can share their insight as well as > questions regarding astrological principles as this will greatly enhance > their astrological practices or improve their readings with others on other > groups. therefore we are doing a great service by this and also enhancing > the glory of this great science. > > > > sincerely, > > > > raja gursahani > > > > __________________________ > __________________________ > > Raja Gursahani > > 15690 Orchard Way > > Kerman, CA 93630 > > (cell) 314.761.3134 > > rajagursahani > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 7, 2006 Report Share Posted July 7, 2006 David This is the approach I take and appreciate your mail. People on this list and elsewhere will preach, put forth pet theories and question the logic, accuracy of birth time - blah blah blah. Some will, as always, sell their books, remedy stones, diamonds etc. But very few have the courage or inclination to give readings for a blind chart, verify the horoscope or even demonstrate their predictive capability by giving public predictions. There was a quiz that Vinay Kumar gave last year and everybody before that participated in all sorts of discussions. When he put his quiz in a multiple Q&A format only one person answered. After he gave out the answers,a lot complained that they did not have time, or format can be better, some questioned birth time - yada yada yada. So much noise for nothing. Talk (or writing on ) is cheap - but when it comes to actually giving predictions very few will come forward. May be this is human nature! Manjunath Sharma > One cannot play a piano by reading a book or discussing principles. > > One must practice "playing" the piano. > > So, too, with astrologers, we must practice our principles, and what better way than by providing readings? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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