Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please help)

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17 November 2005 07:25

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Marriage please help

color:#FF007F">II Hare Ram Krishna II

Respected Visti Guru

Ji,

Pranaam,

Attached please find

the chart of an unmarried female native who was born on 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am

at the place of tezpur,Assam, India. Though you might have

gone through once and suggested a mantra too. Nothing came out so far and their

parents are still struggling for her suitable matching partner. Sri R R Nemani

Ji also predicted the time of marriage but no hope of materialising the event.

I have different

opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I found your comment on the preceding

chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you mentioned the combination of Sat

with AL and UL in the 10th house to remain the native as bachelorette.

But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. in this chart. Jup. is aspecting

7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna is occupied by its 7th lord Jup. Of course

Jup is in the Nak.of Sat.

Sat being the 7th lord

and aspecting his own house may delay but not deny the marriage. Now the

problem arises if it delays then how long ? What is the method to reach up to

the nearest time. The native is now 34+ and present Dasa running is that of

Mer/Ven. Mercury is involved with 7th house in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord

Venus is natural karak for marriage. Though it is debilitated in rasi but has

improved in D9 so this planet also may give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his

blessings to Venus. But the fact is native is still unmarried.

You may find the similar

situation in the attached chart. Hence I request you humbly to analyse the

marriage and its sustenance area . You may take your own time. I have found the

non-marital status but unable to tell her parents. I want your readings and

confirmation for the sake of my knowledge.

Thanks and regards.

Ramesh Mishra

Visti Larsen

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Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and

the upapada, the person lives like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So

the person will also attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle.

In this case Saturn is in the tenth house,

so the problem is the type of work the person does.

To clear this up the best remedy is fasting

on days of the upapada, i.e. Fridays in this case. This way the person will get

the best proposals and will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna.

As for your perspective on sixth lord in

the tenth house, you must reconcile with it also being seventh lord. I agree,

the work and lifestyle is the problem.

Btw. Please answer the posts in a more

appropriate tone. A person has come to you for help.

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Ramesh F. Gangaramani

14 November 2005 23:19

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Marriage please help

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Sonali,

I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be

Saturn's aspect on the 7H

and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a

diamond may not be the best

thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on

Fridays and to seek

blessings for ma Lakshmi.

Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L

placement in 10H may show

excessive focus on career as one of the reasons

for delay! Ironically the

activity that brings the spouse is also the career

as Saturn is 6L and 7L

too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed

sign, so the spouse may be

from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may

actually be instrumental in

bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H

may show love marriage.

You are likely to have had some serious

relationships! ULL in 2H may show

marrying a person who was married before!

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

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Behalf Of sonalinigam28

Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

Hello guruji

Please tell me when I will get married and why is

so delay is happening in

my marriage?will i get married or not and what are

the remedies i can do?

My details are

date of birth - 14th september 1971

place of birth - delhi

time of birth - 05:35 am

Thanks

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Dear Visti, namaste

Nice email.

(1) What are the conditions under which Saturn *can* cause delay in marriage?

(2) Is Kuja Dosha always reckoned with reference to lagna? If reckoned relative

to Moon/Venus, can Kuja dosha cause delay in marriage?

(3) Do you consider malefic aspects on 9th house having the same effect as

malefic planets in the 9th house?

best regards

Hari

On 11/17/05, Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

A long and clarifying note this time.

First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a bachelor, but

i never said that the person will remain that way. In my previous mail i

elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the person out of

this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that the problem

is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars have plenty of lovers,

but because of their world-view, they may be delaying marriage.

Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has delayed

marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house has not

delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh which can

delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars to keep one in

the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja dosha. Btw.

Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below.

Examples:

Male Native 1: October 11, 1973Time: 20:40:30Time Zone:

8:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00"

Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and Saturn is NOT

aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person married after his 28

th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31.

Male Native 2: August 7, 1963Time: 21:15:00Time Zone:

5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00" Sambalpur, India

In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming the Kuja

dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting the lord

Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is however

aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the age of Mars, namely

28

th year.

Female Native 1:

August 3, 1974Time: 19:58:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East

of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"

Delhi, India

In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being in the seventh

house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the sixth house, and

Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is placed. This native married

early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars in the seventh house. This is

why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the person married around 21/22. It was

however in the natives 28

th year that the marriage fell apart.

So in these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is not delaying marriage. In the

first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not influence. In the last

case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect on the seventh.

But this doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If Saturn or Rahu

are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay marriage, because the

bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and karaka for bhagya

is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have here. This is

another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the Bhagavad Gita:

"adharmabhibhavat krsna...".

The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after which the graha

has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry. Similarly if Saturn is

joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor life-style (even whilst

married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to smell the sweet scent of

married life.

Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which basically is

mars' graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the delay upto 28

th year.

These are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage is a natural

phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is using the naisargika

dasa!

But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage. Among the

kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four planets are in a

kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya yoga is formed.

People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until the age of the

strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept marriage as a

true manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in marriage.

Best wishes,

Visti Larsen

November 18, 2005

"Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Hari, Namaskar

Why don’t

you use an email ID which reflects your name, instead of ’jyotish sishya’.

Surely if you are here, you will be a Jyotish student.

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color:navy">(1)

color:navy">The former condition you already know, so i won’t repeat

myself. Otherwise retrograde planets in the seventh house from lagna or venus can

cause delay in marriage through rejection. The planets placement from arudha

lagna is important. Also retrograde planets in upapada, or lording it can cause

delay because the spouse is unwilling.

l2 level1 lfo4">(2)

color:navy">You can reckon any placement from any position, as long as you know

what you are looking at. Kuja dosha revolves around the seventh house, i.e. Mangal

in 1st, 4th, 7th, and 12th causes

kuja dosha because mars aspects lagna by graha dristi. Mangal in 8th

can end the marriage through fights and is a different issue altogether. Since

the seventh house from lagna shows the actual spouse and the manifestation of

the relationship, kuja dosha from lagna can delay the relationship from

happening. Seventh house from Venus is the place that brings the spouse, so

kuja dosha from venus can delay the coming of the spouse (in theory – i’ve

never seen this working). Seventh from Moon shows your interaction with your community

in general, and kuja dosha from here can give bitter relations with soceity at

large. This is especially important in the charts of famous people; i.e. prince

charles has Ketu, neecha Surya and Budha in the seventh from Moon, and if you

analyze his vimshottari dasas, you will find the nodes playing a big role in the

scandals which have surfaced from his side in the past.

l2 level1 lfo4">(3)

color:navy">Malefic aspect has an influence – especially graha dristi,

but such influences are only temporary and last for the dasa of the particular

planet, then they are over. Planets in the ninth house are the final

determinors and should be remedied. E.g. for Rahu in the ninth a yellow topaz/yellow

sapphire should be worn, whilst for Saturn in the ninth a Red Garnet (for

ladies) or Ruby should be worn. In both cases the ring should be on the right

hand ring-finger.

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17 November 2005 12:33

Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please help)

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font-family:Georgia">om gam gajavaktraaya namah

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font-family:Georgia">Dear Visti, namaste

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font-family:Georgia">Nice email.

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font-family:Georgia">(1) What are the conditions under which Saturn *can* cause

delay in marriage?

font-family:Georgia">(2) Is Kuja Dosha always reckoned with reference to lagna?

If reckoned relative to Moon/Venus, can Kuja dosha cause delay in marriage?

font-family:Georgia">(3) Do you consider malefic aspects on 9th house having

the same effect as malefic planets in the 9th house?

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font-family:Georgia">best regards

font-family:Georgia">Hari

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On 11/17/05, Visti Larsen

wrote:

||Hare

Rama Krsna||

Dear

Ramesh, Namaskar

A long

and clarifying note this time.

First

the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a bachelor, but i

never said that the person will remain that way. In my previous mail i

elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the person out of

this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that the problem

is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars have plenty of lovers,

but because of their world-view, they may be delaying marriage.

Also I

do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has delayed marriage.

In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house has not delayed

marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh which can delay

marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars to keep one in the

Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja dosha. Btw. Mars'

natural year is 28. Now see below.

Examples:

Male

Native 1:

October 11, 1973

Time: 20:40:30

Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N

56' 00"

Mars is

placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and Saturn is NOT

aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person married after his 28 th

year. I think the exact age was around 30/31.

Male

Native 2:

August 7, 1963

Time: 21:15:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N

28' 00"

Sambalpur, India

In this

chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming the Kuja dosha.

Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting the lord Mercury by

rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is however aspecting the

seventh house, and the person married in the age of Mars, namely 28 th

year.

Female

Native 1:

August 3, 1974

Time: 19:58:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N

40' 00"

Delhi, India

In this

chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being in the seventh house,

is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the sixth house, and Jupiter is

also aspecting the seventh where mars is placed. This native married early

BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars in the seventh house. This is why

Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the person married around 21/22. It was

however in the natives 28 th year that the marriage fell apart.

So in

these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is not delaying marriage. In the

first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not influence. In the last

case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect on the seventh.

But this

doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If Saturn or Rahu are placed

in the ninth house, they are able to delay marriage, because the bhagya is thus

being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and karaka for bhagya is Guru, and

thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have here. This is another way of

intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the Bhagavad Gita: "adharmabhibhavat

krsna...".

The age

would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after which the graha has

matured and the native has the opportunity to marry. Similarly if Saturn is

joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor life-style (even whilst

married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to smell the sweet scent of

married life.

Similarly

we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which basically is mars'

graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the delay upto 28 th

year.

These

are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage is a natural

phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is using the naisargika

dasa!

But

again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage. Among the kendras,

the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four planets are in a

kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya yoga is formed.

People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until the age of the

strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept marriage as a

true manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in marriage.

Best

wishes,

font-family:bookman;color:#993366">Visti Larsen

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November 18, 2005

First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a bachelor, but

i never said that the person will remain that way. In my previous mail i

elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the person out of

this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that the problem

is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars have plenty of lovers,

but because of their world-view, they may be delaying marriage. Also I do not

believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has delayed marriage. In many

charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house has not delayed marriage, and

instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh which can delay marriage, and this

has to do with the intention of Mars to keep one in the

Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja dosha. Btw. Mars'

natural year is 28. Now see below. Examples: Male Native 1:

October 11, 1973Time: 20:40:30Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00" Mars is placed in the twelfth house,

forming the kuja dosha, and Saturn is NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its

lord Mars. The person married after his 28 th year. I think

the exact age was around 30/31. Male Native 2: August 7, 1963Time:

21:15:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 84 E 01'

00", 21 N 28' 00" Sambalpur, India In this chart, Mars is placed

in the seventh house again, forming the Kuja dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the

seventh house, but is aspecting the lord Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to

cause an impact). Jupiter is however aspecting the seventh house, and the

person married in the age of Mars,

namely 28 th year. Female Native 1: August 3, 1974Time:

19:58:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N

40' 00" Delhi, India In this chart, different from the other

charts, Mars though being in the seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The

seventh lord is in the sixth house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the

seventh where mars is placed. This native married early BECAUSE Saturn is

removing the delay of Mars in the seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove

kuja dosha. So the person married around 21/22. It was however in the natives

28 th year that the marriage fell apart. So in these three cases, i've shown

that Saturn is not delaying marriage. In the first two cases, marriage was

delayed but Saturn did not influence. In the last case marriage wasn't delayed,

yet Saturn did have aspect on the seventh. But this doens't mean that Saturn

can never delay marriage. If Saturn or Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they

are able to delay marriage, because the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for

dharma is Surya and karaka for bhagya

is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have here. This is

another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the Bhagavad Gita:

"adharmabhibhavat krsna...". The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th

for Rahu, after which the graha has matured and the native has the opportunity

to marry. Similarly if Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a

bachelor life-style (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will

wake-up to smell the sweet scent of married life. Similarly we used Mars in

the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which basically is mars' graha dristi on the

seventh house), to understand the delay upto 28 th year. These are natural years

or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage is a natural phenomena, one of the

best ways to predict marriage is using the naisargika dasa! But again, these

are not the only causes of delay in marriage. Among the kendras, the tenth

house is the strongest house, and if four planets are in a kendra-house, and

joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya yoga is formed. People with such

yogas will

usually delay marriage until the age of the strongest planet. Up until that age,

the person will not accept marriage as a true manifestation of love, or will

generally not believe in marriage. Best wishes, Visti Larsen

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November 18, 2005

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Opione,

Namaskar

Surya

is karaka for dharma. We agree? Shani is the enemy

of the Surya and when Shani is in the ninth house it will inihibit the good

qualities of Surya.

Brhaspati

is karaka for bhagya. We agree? Both bhagya and

dharma is seen from the ninth house. Rahu is the enemy of Brhaspati –

ever heard of guruchandala? And thus if Rahu is in the ninth house, it can

inihibit the qualities of Brhaspati.

Now...

Since when did Brhaspati become Kalatrakaraka or Vivahakaraka? If you had said

patni-karaka for women, then i wouldn’t have said anything, as this is

also what Parasara states.

However,

Parasara states in the karakadhyayah: ‘patni saptamabhavataH’ –

seventh house shows the spouse. In the same chapter he states that Sita (shukra)

is the karaka of the seventh house.

So the

seventh house is the place of marriage and its karaka is Venus... Where did

jupiter come into the picture here?

If you wanto

know why Ninth house is important for marriage, then we can get into that also.

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18 November 2005 12:35

Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

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12.0pt">Pranaam Visitiji

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If

Saturn or Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay marriage,

because the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and karaka

for bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have here.

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font-family:Arial">I beg to differ. Jupiter is not affected by Saturn as

it is not a natural enemy of Jupiter. Neither would Rahu affect marriage.

I feel that the influence of Rahu on Jupiter is only when it is conjunction

with Moon as the Rahu is the natural sworn enemy of Sun and Moon. And since the

karaka for marriage being Jupiter I find it difficult to believe that Rahu

could damage marriage prospects in the sense described by you.

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12.0pt">Om Krishna Guru.

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12.0pt">Opione

Jyotisa Shisya

<achyutagaddi > wrote:

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font-family:Georgia">om gam gajavaktraaya namah

12.0pt">

font-family:Georgia">Dear Visti, namaste

12.0pt">

font-family:Georgia">Nice email.

12.0pt">

font-family:Georgia">(1) What are the conditions under which Saturn *can* cause

delay in marriage?

font-family:Georgia">(2) Is Kuja Dosha always reckoned with reference to lagna?

If reckoned relative to Moon/Venus, can Kuja dosha cause delay in marriage?

font-family:Georgia">(3) Do you consider malefic aspects on 9th house having

the same effect as malefic planets in the 9th house?

12.0pt">

font-family:Georgia">best regards

font-family:Georgia">Hari

12.0pt">

On 11/17/05, Visti Larsen

wrote:

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Ramesh, Namaskar

A long

and clarifying note this time.

First

the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a bachelor, but i

never said that the person will remain that way. In my previous mail i

elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the person out of

this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that the problem

is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars have plenty of lovers,

but because of their world-view, they may be delaying marriage.

Also I

do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has delayed marriage.

In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house has not delayed

marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh which can delay

marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars to keep one in the

Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja dosha. Btw. Mars'

natural year is 28. Now see below.

Examples:

Male

Native 1:

October 11, 1973

Time: 20:40:30

Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N

56' 00"

Mars is

placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and Saturn is NOT

aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person married after his 28 th

year. I think the exact age was around 30/31.

Male

Native 2:

August 7, 1963

Time: 21:15:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N

28' 00"

Sambalpur, India

In this

chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming the Kuja dosha.

Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting the lord Mercury by

rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is however aspecting the

seventh house, and the person married in the age of Mars, namely 28 th

year.

Female

Native 1:

August 3, 1974

Time: 19:58:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N

40' 00"

Delhi, India

In this

chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being in the seventh house,

is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the sixth house, and Jupiter is

also aspecting the seventh where mars is placed. This native married early

BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars in the seventh house. This is why

Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the person married around 21/22. It was

however in the natives 28 th year that the marriage fell apart.

So in

these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is not delaying marriage. In the

first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not influence. In the last

case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect on the seventh.

But this

doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If Saturn or Rahu are placed

in the ninth house, they are able to delay marriage, because the bhagya is thus

being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and karaka for bhagya is Guru, and

thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have here. This is another way of

intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the Bhagavad Gita: "adharmabhibhavat

krsna...".

The age

would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after which the graha has

matured and the native has the opportunity to marry. Similarly if Saturn is

joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor life-style (even whilst

married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to smell the sweet scent of

married life.

Similarly

we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which basically is mars'

graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the delay upto 28 th

year.

These

are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage is a natural

phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is using the naisargika

dasa!

But

again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage. Among the kendras,

the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four planets are in a

kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya yoga is formed.

People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until the age of the

strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept marriage as a

true manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in marriage.

Best

wishes,

Visti Larsen

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non-marital status. Reason is well clear. So let me hope for the best. Thanks

and best wishes. Ramesh MishraVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

#993366">A long and clarifying note this time. First the previous chart; I wrote

that the person is living like a bachelor, but i never said that the person will

remain that way. In my previous mail i elaborated on the timing, where Mercury

mahadasa has taken the person out of this frame of mind and is pursuing

marriage. I also clarified that the problem is NOT opportunity, but is

PERSONALITY. Many movie stars have plenty of lovers, but because of their

world-view, they may be delaying marriage. Also I do not believe that Saturns

aspect on the seventh house has delayed marriage. In many charts, Saturns

influence on the seventh house has not delayed marriage, and instead it is

Mars’

influence on the seventh which can delay marriage, and this has to do with the

intention of Mars to keep one in the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of

the effects of kuja dosha. Btw. Mars’ natural year is 28. Now see below.

Examples: Male Native 1: October 11, 1973Time:

20:40:30Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N

56' 00" Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and Saturn

is NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person married after

his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31. Male Native 2:

August 7, 1963Time: 21:15:00Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of

GMT)Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00" Sambalpur, India In

this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming the Kuja dosha.

Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting the lord Mercury by

rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is however aspecting the

seventh house, and the person married in the age of Mars, namely 28th year.

Female Native

1: August 3, 1974Time: 19:58:00Time Zone: 5:30:00

(East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi,

India In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being

in the seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the sixth

house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is placed. This

native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars in the

seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the person married

around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th year that the marriage fell

apart. So in these three cases, i’ve shown that Saturn is not delaying

marriage. In the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not

influence. In the last case marriage wasn’t delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect

on the seventh. But this doens’t mean that Saturn can never delay marriage.

If Saturn or Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay

marriage, because the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya

and karaka for bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to

have here. This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the

Bhagavad Gita: “adharmabhibhavat krsna...”. The age would then be 36th for

Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after which the graha has matured and the native has

the opportunity to marry. Similarly if Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the

person may live a bachelor life-style (even whilst married) until 36,

afterwhich they will wake-up to smell the sweet scent of married life.

Similarly we used Mars

in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which basically is mars’ graha dristi on

the seventh house), to understand the delay upto 28th year. These are natural

years or ‘naisargika’ years, and since marriage is a natural phenomena, one of

the best ways to predict marriage is using the naisargika dasa! But again,

these are not the only causes of delay in marriage. Among the kendras, the

tenth house is the strongest house, and if four planets are in a kendra-house,

and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya yoga is formed. People with

such yogas will usually delay marriage until the age of the strongest planet.

Up until that age, the person will not accept marriage as a true manifestation

of love, or will generally not believe in marriage. In the chart that you have

given, four planets are in the tenth house, and are ALSO joined the upapada.

This means that for some time, the native will not believe in marriage, and

also the partners she meets (upapada) will share this oppinion. Sun is the

strongest graha and will be the main cause – ego. Could you clarify this

persons

relation to their father – dvadasamsa has surya in the twelfth house, which

shows that the father is not present in the natives life. Since Sun is also

atmakaraka, this is the main theme of life and remedies for Shiva need to be

given. Did i give this before? Rudra-abhisheka and worshipping shiva with the

Rameshvara mantra (surya is neecha in navamsa), is required for atleast 40

days. Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joined Mangal and

Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes the person very emotional

to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However because Moon is in a dual

navamsa, this will move her in a spiritual direction rather than catching her

in an endless limbo of distress. This will manifest in a greater way, in the

last part of her life. Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer

Narayana dasa, to show the exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from

97-03, and though being lorded by Shukra, wasn’t conducive towards marriage.

However, she underwent a great change in life during this time. Next is

Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu, which will again present

her with opportunities to marry. Here i do see her marrying, before 2008 based

on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be through the determination of Saturn

(elders) who will push her towards marrying. It would be in the latter half of

the dasa (06-08), where the results of lordship will be given. Further details

require the navamsa to be rectified. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services

and articles visit:

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Subject: RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

12pt; COLOR: #ff007f; FONT-FAMILY: 'Bookman Old Style'">II Hare Ram Krishna II

Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam, Attached please find the chart of an

unmarried female native who was born on 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of

tezpur,Assam, India. Though you might have gone through once and suggested a

mantra too. Nothing came out so far and their parents are still struggling for

her suitable matching partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of

marriage but no hope of materialising the event. I have different opinion with

that of Nemani Ji. Since I found your comment on the preceding chart, I could

not keep myself quiet.As you mentioned the combination of Sat with AL and UL in

the 10th house to remain the native as bachelorette. But don't you find the

gracing factor of Jup. in this chart. Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and

Navamsa lagna is occupied by its 7th lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of

Sat. Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delay but not deny

the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then how long ? What is the

method to reach up to the nearest time. The native is now 34+ and present Dasa

running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involved with 7th house in rashi and

navamsa too.AD lord Venus is natural karak for marriage. Though it is

debilitated in rasi but has improved in D9 so this planet also may give the

marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his blessings to Venus. But the fact is native is

still unmarried. You may find the similar situation in the attached chart.

Hence I request you humbly to analyse the marriage and its

sustenance area . You may take your own time. I have found the non-marital

status but unable to tell her parents. I want your readings and confirmation

for the sake of my knowledge. Thanks and regards. Ramesh Mishra Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

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Ramesh, Namaskar When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, the

person lives like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the person will

also attract people who are interested in the same

lifestyle. In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem is the

type of work the person does. To clear this up the best remedy is fasting

on days of the upapada, i.e. Fridays in this case. This way the person will get

the best proposals and will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna. As for your

perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, you must reconcile with it also

being seventh lord. I agree, the work and lifestyle is the problem. Btw.

Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. A person has come to you

for help. Best wishes,

Roman'"> *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit:

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[] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. GangaramaniSent:

14 November 2005 23:19Subject: RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] Marriage please help Satyam Bruyat Priyam BruyatDear Sonali,I am a

student. The reasons

for delay appear to be Saturn's aspect on the 7Hand ULL Venus being debilitated.

Now wearing a diamond may not be the bestthing for Leo lagna. It would be good

to fast on Fridays and to seekblessings for ma Lakshmi. Wonder if you are a

career women! If so! 6L placement in 10H may showexcessive focus on career as

one of the reasons for delay! Ironically theactivity that brings the spouse is

also the career as Saturn is 6L and 7Ltoo! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a

fixed sign, so the spouse may befrom same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may

actually be instrumental inbringing the

spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may show love marriage.You are likely to

have had some serious relationships! ULL in 2H may showmarrying a person who

was married before!Best Wishes,Ramesh

[] OnBehalf Of

sonalinigam28Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AMTo:

Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please

helpHello gurujiPlease tell me when I will get married and why is so delay is

happening inmy marriage?will i get married or not and what are the remedies i

can do?My details aredate of birth - 14th september 1971place of birth -

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Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

Always remember the context. Saturn in

ninth can delay marriage because he is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can

delay the marriage because he is denying the conjugal happiness.

The question is now: Why is ninth house

important for marriage?

Best wishes,

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19 November 2005 06:11

Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please help)

color:#FF007F">II Hare Ram Krishna II

Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam,

A lot of thanks for replying the mail.

Your reply has confused me betwwen the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing

to the delay of marriage. There significations are quite different yet you have

said about the Saturn that it can delay and can never delay the marriage too.

You have quoted the examples of three charts. So let me prepare the reply well for

further continuation of discussion.I write to you in next days.Due to time

constraint I am unable to devote myself on the net.

However I respect you as my GURU whether

u consider me as a disciple or not.

In the case of my female chart you have

estimated the year of 2008 which is also doubtfull because I am looking this

chart as non-marital status. Reason is well clear. So let me hope for the best.

Thanks and best wishes.

Ramesh Mishra

Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

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font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

color:#993366">Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

color:#993366">A long and clarifying note this time.

color:#993366">First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like

a bachelor, but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my

previous mail i elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the

person out of this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified

that the problem is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars have

plenty of lovers, but because of their world-view, they may be delaying

marriage.

color:#993366">Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house

has delayed marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house

has not delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars’ influence on the

seventh which can delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars

to keep one in the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja

dosha. Btw. Mars’ natural year is 28. Now see below.

color:#993366">Examples:

color:#993366">Male Native 1:

October 11, 1973

Time: 20:40:30

Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N

56' 00"

color:#993366">Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and

Saturn is NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person married

after his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31.

color:#993366">Male Native 2:

August 7, 1963

Time: 21:15:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N

28' 00"

Sambalpur,

India

color:#993366">In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming

the Kuja dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting the

lord Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is however

aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the age of Mars, namely

28th year.

color:#993366">Female Native 1:

color:#993366"> August 3, 1974

Time: 19:58:00

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N

40' 00"

Delhi,

India

color:#993366">In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though

being in the seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the

sixth house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is placed.

This native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars in the

seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the person married

around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th year that the

marriage fell apart.

color:#993366">So in these three cases, i’ve shown that Saturn is not

delaying marriage. In the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not

influence. In the last case marriage wasn’t delayed, yet Saturn did have

aspect on the seventh.

color:#993366">But this doens’t mean that Saturn can never delay

marriage. If Saturn or Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to

delay marriage, because the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is

Surya and karaka for bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones

to have here. This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the

Bhagavad Gita: “adharmabhibhavat krsna...”.

color:#993366">The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after

which the graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry.

Similarly if Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor

life-style (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to

smell the sweet scent of married life.

color:#993366">Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha

(which basically is mars’ graha dristi on the seventh house), to

understand the delay upto 28th year.

color:#993366">These are natural years or ‘naisargika’ years, and

since marriage is a natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage

is using the naisargika dasa!

color:#993366">But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage.

Among the kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four planets

are in a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya yoga is

formed. People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until the age of the

strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept marriage as a true

manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in marriage.

color:#993366">In the chart that you have given, four planets are in the tenth

house, and are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time, the

native will not believe in marriage, and also the partners she meets (upapada)

will share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha and will be the main cause

– ego. Could you clarify this persons relation to their father –

dvadasamsa has surya in the twelfth house, which shows that the father is not present

in the natives life.

color:#993366">Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of life and

remedies for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before? Rudra-abhisheka

and worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra (surya is neecha in navamsa),

is required for atleast 40 days.

color:#993366">Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joined

Mangal and Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes the person very

emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However because Moon is

in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a spiritual direction rather than

catching her in an endless limbo of distress. This will manifest in a greater

way, in the last part of her life.

color:#993366">Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayana dasa,

to show the exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, and though

being lorded by Shukra, wasn’t conducive towards marriage. However, she

underwent a great change in life during this time.

color:#993366">Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu,

which will again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do see her

marrying, before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be through

the determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her towards marrying. It

would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08), where the results of lordship

will be given. Further details require the navamsa to be rectified.

color:#993366">Best wishes,

bookman;color:#FF0080">***

bookman;color:#993366">Visti Larsen

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Behalf Of ramesh mishra

17 November 2005 07:25

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Marriage please help

font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:#FF007F">II Hare Ram Krishna II

Respected

Visti Guru Ji,

Pranaam,

Attached

please find the chart of an unmarried female native who was born on 06 May 1976

at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam, India. Though

you might have gone through once and suggested a mantra too. Nothing came out

so far and their parents are still struggling for her suitable matching

partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of marriage but no hope of

materialising the event.

I

have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I found your comment on

the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you mentioned the

combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house to remain the native as

bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. in this

chart. Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna is occupied by its

7th lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat.

Sat

being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delay but not deny the marriage.

Now the problem arises if it delays then how long ? What is the method to reach

up to the nearest time. The native is now 34+ and present Dasa running is that

of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involved with 7th house in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord

Venus is natural karak for marriage. Though it is debilitated in rasi but has

improved in D9 so this planet also may give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his

blessings to Venus. But the fact is native is still unmarried.

You

may find the similar situation in the attached chart. Hence I request you

humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area . You may take your own

time. I have found the non-marital status but unable to tell her parents. I

want your readings and confirmation for the sake of my knowledge.

Thanks

and regards.

Ramesh

Mishra

Visti Larsen

<visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

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font-family:"Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

color:navy">Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

color:navy">When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, the person

lives like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the person will also

attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle.

color:navy">In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem is the

type of work the person does.

color:navy">

color:navy">To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of the upapada,

i.e. Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the best proposals and

will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna.

color:navy">

color:navy">As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, you must

reconcile with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work and lifestyle is

the problem.

color:navy">

color:navy">Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. A person

has come to you for help.

color:navy">Best wishes,

bookman;color:#FF0080">***

color:navy">Visti Larsen

color:navy">For services and articles visit:

color:navy">http://srigaruda.com

color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com

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Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani

14 November 2005 23:19

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Marriage please help

Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

Dear Sonali,

I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be

Saturn's aspect on the 7H

and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a

diamond may not be the best

thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on

Fridays and to seek

blessings for ma Lakshmi.

Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L

placement in 10H may show

excessive focus on career as one of the reasons

for delay! Ironically the

activity that brings the spouse is also the career

as Saturn is 6L and 7L

too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed

sign, so the spouse may be

from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may

actually be instrumental in

bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H

may show love marriage.

You are likely to have had some serious

relationships! ULL in 2H may show

marrying a person who was married before!

Best Wishes,

Ramesh

[] On

Behalf Of sonalinigam28

Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM

[Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

Hello guruji

Please tell me when I will get married and why is

so delay is happening in

my marriage?will i get married or not and what are

the remedies i can do?

My details are

date of birth - 14th september 1971

place of birth - delhi

time of birth - 05:35 am

Thanks

Sonali

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Pranam Visti ji,

Sorry to but in, but want to celar out my understandings and may my

little contribution enhance my comprehension.

First of all we consider the 9th house as Dharma and gains from

Dharma are to be seen in 7th (11th to 9th). Secondly 9th is upachaya

to 7th (physical relationships)controlling the growth of 7th. So both

contribute to each other.

Famous Gita quote is corruption of woman is first sign of fall in

dharma.

Now regarding Sat and mars :-

Sun is the karka of Dharma (we get through father) and guru , friend

of sun, contributes by giving progeny. Now Sat is enemy of sun and is

karka of 8th (widowhood/break in relationships)hence placed in

9th ,dominate his significations. Plus being manda obstructs the

growth of dharma and control over delay.

Where as in case of mars, mars controls the Viirya and try to

maintain brahmacharya and being bodhaka to sun, try to enhance the

brahmacharya for growth of dharma and his role enemy of venus,

creates obstacles in vivaha.

These are my little understandings and looking for your suggestions

and guidelines.

Does bhagya gets ruined by Sat or Dharma ? As jup is significator of

Bhagya and sun for Dharma.And Sat us neutral to Jup but dire enemy to

sun?? Am I thinking correct?

With Pranam,

Vinay

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> Always remember the context. Saturn in ninth can delay marriage

because he

> is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can delay the marriage

because he is

> denying the conjugal happiness.

>

> The question is now: Why is ninth house important for marriage?

>

> Best wishes,

>

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> 19 November 2005 06:11

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please

help)

>

> II Hare Ram Krishna II

>

> Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam,

>

> A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your reply has confused me

betwwen

> the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing to the delay of

marriage. There

> significations are quite different yet you have said about the

Saturn that

> it can delay and can never delay the marriage too. You have quoted

the

> examples of three charts. So let me prepare the reply well for

further

> continuation of discussion.I write to you in next days.Due to time

> constraint I am unable to devote myself on the net.

>

> However I respect you as my GURU whether u consider me as a

disciple or not.

>

> In the case of my female chart you have estimated the year of 2008

which is

> also doubtfull because I am looking this chart as non-marital

status. Reason

> is well clear. So let me hope for the best.

>

> Thanks and best wishes.

>

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> A long and clarifying note this time.

>

> First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a

bachelor,

> but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my

previous mail i

> elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has taken the

person out of

> this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I also clarified that

the

> problem is NOT opportunity, but is PERSONALITY. Many movie stars

have plenty

> of lovers, but because of their world-view, they may be delaying

marriage.

>

> Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has

delayed

> marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh house

has not

> delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars' influence on the seventh

which can

> delay marriage, and this has to do with the intention of Mars to

keep one in

> the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of the effects of kuja

dosha. Btw.

> Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below.

>

> Examples:

>

> Male Native 1:

> October 11, 1973

> Time: 20:40:30

> Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00"

>

> Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and

Saturn is

> NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The person

married after

> his 28th year. I think the exact age was around 30/31.

>

> Male Native 2:

> August 7, 1963

> Time: 21:15:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00"

> Sambalpur, India

>

> In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming

the Kuja

> dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is aspecting

the lord

> Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an impact). Jupiter is

however

> aspecting the seventh house, and the person married in the age of

Mars,

> namely 28th year.

>

> Female Native 1:

>

> August 3, 1974

> Time: 19:58:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"

> Delhi, India

>

> In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being

in the

> seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in the

sixth

> house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars is

placed. This

> native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the delay of Mars

in the

> seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja dosha. So the

person

> married around 21/22. It was however in the natives 28th year that

the

> marriage fell apart.

>

> So in these three cases, i've shown that Saturn is not delaying

marriage. In

> the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did not

influence. In

> the last case marriage wasn't delayed, yet Saturn did have aspect

on the

> seventh.

>

> But this doens't mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If

Saturn or

> Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay

marriage, because

> the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma is Surya and

karaka for

> bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are the worst ones to have

here.

> This is another way of intepreting Sri Krishnas statement in the

Bhagavad

> Gita: "adharmabhibhavat krsna...".

>

> The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after

which the

> graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to marry.

Similarly if

> Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live a bachelor life-

style

> (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they will wake-up to

smell the

> sweet scent of married life.

>

> Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which

basically

> is mars' graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand the

delay upto

> 28th year.

>

> These are natural years or 'naisargika' years, and since marriage

is a

> natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is

using the

> naisargika dasa!

>

> But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage.

Among the

> kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four

planets are in

> a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then pravrajya

yoga is

> formed. People with such yogas will usually delay marriage until

the age of

> the strongest planet. Up until that age, the person will not accept

marriage

> as a true manifestation of love, or will generally not believe in

marriage.

>

> In the chart that you have given, four planets are in the tenth

house, and

> are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time, the

native will

> not believe in marriage, and also the partners she meets (upapada)

will

> share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha and will be the

main cause -

> ego. Could you clarify this persons relation to their father -

dvadasamsa

> has surya in the twelfth house, which shows that the father is not

present

> in the natives life.

>

> Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of life and

remedies

> for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before? Rudra-abhisheka

and

> worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra (surya is neecha in

navamsa),

> is required for atleast 40 days.

>

> Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joined Mangal

and

> Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes the person very

> emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy. However

because Moon

> is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a spiritual direction

rather

> than catching her in an endless limbo of distress. This will

manifest in a

> greater way, in the last part of her life.

>

> Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayana dasa, to

show the

> exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, and though

being

> lorded by Shukra, wasn't conducive towards marriage. However, she

underwent

> a great change in life during this time.

>

> Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu,

which will

> again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do see her

marrying,

> before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it will be

through the

> determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her towards

marrying. It

> would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08), where the results

of

> lordship will be given. Further details require the navamsa to be

rectified.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

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> Behalf Of ramesh mishra

> 17 November 2005 07:25

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

>

> II Hare Ram Krishna II

>

> Respected Visti Guru Ji,

>

> Pranaam,

>

> Attached please find the chart of an unmarried female native who

was born on

> 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam, India. Though

you

> might have gone through once and suggested a mantra too. Nothing

came out so

> far and their parents are still struggling for her suitable matching

> partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the time of marriage but

no hope

> of materialising the event.

>

> I have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I found your

comment

> on the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As you

mentioned the

> combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house to remain the

native as

> bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing factor of Jup. in this

chart.

> Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and Navamsa lagna is occupied

by its 7th

> lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat.

>

> Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delay but

not deny

> the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then how long ?

What is

> the method to reach up to the nearest time. The native is now 34+

and

> present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is involved with

7th house

> in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is natural karak for

marriage. Though

> it is debilitated in rasi but has improved in D9 so this planet

also may

> give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his blessings to Venus. But

the fact is

> native is still unmarried.

>

> You may find the similar situation in the attached chart. Hence I

request

> you humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area . You

may take

> your own time. I have found the non-marital status but unable to

tell her

> parents. I want your readings and confirmation for the sake of my

knowledge.

>

> Thanks and regards.

>

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, the person

lives

> like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the person will

also

> attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle.

>

> In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem is the

type of

> work the person does.

>

> To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of the upapada,

i.e.

> Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the best

proposals and

> will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna.

>

> As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, you must

reconcile

> with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work and lifestyle is

the

> problem.

>

> Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. A person

has come

> to you for help.

>

> Best wishes,

>

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> 14 November 2005 23:19

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Sonali,

> I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be Saturn's aspect

on the 7H

> and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a diamond may not be

the best

> thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on Fridays and to seek

> blessings for ma Lakshmi.

> Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L placement in 10H may

show

> excessive focus on career as one of the reasons for delay!

Ironically the

> activity that brings the spouse is also the career as Saturn is 6L

and 7L

> too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed sign, so the spouse

may be

> from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may actually be

instrumental in

> bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may show love

marriage.

> You are likely to have had some serious relationships! ULL in 2H

may show

> marrying a person who was married before!

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

[] On

> Behalf Of sonalinigam28

> Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

>

> Hello guruji

>

> Please tell me when I will get married and why is so delay is

happening in

> my marriage?will i get married or not and what are the remedies i

can do?

>

> My details are

>

> date of birth - 14th september 1971

> place of birth - delhi

> time of birth - 05:35 am

>

> Thanks

>

> Sonali

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Dear Vinay, Namaskar

Nice understanding.

Venus controls virya; this is what Parasara says, and

a strong Venus will make the person very picky about whom they spend their

virya on, whilst a weak venus is indiscriminte in nature. Thats why a strong

Venus is also called Brighu.

Mars on the other hand just doesn’t wanto enter life

of a householder, and thus will obstruct the marriage. This wasn’t the

main point of your mail, but i wanted to mention it.

Saturn hates the Sun and debilitates Jupiter... so i’m

sure the problem is both ways. Even Rahu isn’t too fond of either of Sun

and Jupiter, but mainly Saturn is afflicting the dharma of Surya whilst Rahu is

affecting the bhagya of Guru.

As for ninth house; One reason you gave was from the

Gita – this is accepted.

The other was regarding upachaya... whilst this is

true, you need to be more clear, because Parasara states that malefics are good

in upachaya. Keep in mind that he is talking about the upachaya from lagna. Also

we are just talking about one of these upachaya bhavas, namely the third house.

See the third house from ANY house, indicates ‘that

which is required’ for the house. E.g. Fifth house shows children, and you

cannot have children without sex, so seventh house (third from fifth) is

required. Similarly the seventh house indicates marriage, and you cannot marry

without dharma; without dharma there would be no laws and thus no marriage, so

ninth house (third from seventh) is required for this.

If planets like Saturn and Rahu are in the ninth, then

dharma is low and we need to strengthen the dharma through certain means. Usually

by just increasing the significations of the ninth house, i.e. Gayatri mantra, Yellow

Stone or Red Stone, etc.

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Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Marriage Delay (RE: Marriage please help)

|| Hare Rama Krishna

||

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Pranam Visti ji,

Sorry to but in, but want to celar out my

understandings and may my

little contribution enhance my comprehension.

First of all we consider the 9th house as Dharma

and gains from

Dharma are to be seen in 7th (11th to 9th).

Secondly 9th is upachaya

to 7th (physical relationships)controlling the

growth of 7th. So both

contribute to each other.

Famous Gita quote is corruption of woman is first

sign of fall in

dharma.

Now regarding Sat and mars :-

Sun is the karka of Dharma (we get through father)

and guru , friend

of sun, contributes by giving progeny. Now Sat is

enemy of sun and is

karka of 8th (widowhood/break in

relationships)hence placed in

9th ,dominate his significations. Plus being manda

obstructs the

growth of dharma and control over delay.

Where as in case of mars, mars controls the Viirya

and try to

maintain brahmacharya and being bodhaka to sun,

try to enhance the

brahmacharya for growth of dharma and his role

enemy of venus,

creates obstacles in vivaha.

These are my little understandings and looking for

your suggestions

and guidelines.

Does bhagya gets ruined by Sat or Dharma ? As jup

is significator of

Bhagya and sun for Dharma.And Sat us neutral to

Jup but dire enemy to

sun?? Am I thinking correct?

With Pranam,

Vinay

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> Always remember the context. Saturn in ninth

can delay marriage

because he

> is ruining the bhagya. Mars in seventh can

delay the marriage

because he is

> denying the conjugal happiness.

>

> The question is now: Why is ninth house

important for marriage?

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

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>

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> Behalf Of ramesh mishra

> 19 November 2005 06:11

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage Delay

(RE: Marriage please

help)

>

> II Hare Ram Krishna

II

>

> Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam,

>

> A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your

reply has confused me

betwwen

> the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing

to the delay of

marriage. There

> significations are quite different yet you

have said about the

Saturn that

> it can delay and can never delay the marriage

too. You have quoted

the

> examples of three charts. So let me prepare

the reply well for

further

> continuation of discussion.I write to you in

next days.Due to time

> constraint I am unable to devote myself on

the net.

>

> However I respect you as my GURU whether u

consider me as a

disciple or not.

>

> In the case of my female chart you have

estimated the year of 2008

which is

> also doubtfull because I am looking this

chart as non-marital

status. Reason

> is well clear. So let me hope for the best.

>

> Thanks and best wishes.

>

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> A long and clarifying note this time.

>

> First the previous chart; I wrote that the

person is living like a

bachelor,

> but i never said that the person will remain

that way. In my

previous mail i

> elaborated on the timing, where Mercury

mahadasa has taken the

person out of

> this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage.

I also clarified that

the

> problem is NOT opportunity, but is

PERSONALITY. Many movie stars

have plenty

> of lovers, but because of their world-view,

they may be delaying

marriage.

>

> Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on

the seventh house has

delayed

> marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence

on the seventh house

has not

> delayed marriage, and instead it is Mars'

influence on the seventh

which can

> delay marriage, and this has to do with the

intention of Mars to

keep one in

> the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is one of

the effects of kuja

dosha. Btw.

> Mars' natural year is 28. Now see below.

>

> Examples:

>

> Male Native 1:

>

October 11, 1973

>

Time: 20:40:30

> Time Zone: 8:00:00

(East of GMT)

>

Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N

56' 00"

>

> Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming

the kuja dosha, and

Saturn is

> NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord

Mars. The person

married after

> his 28th year. I think the exact age was

around 30/31.

>

> Male Native 2:

>

August 7, 1963

>

Time: 21:15:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00

(East of GMT)

>

Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N

28' 00"

>

Sambalpur, India

>

> In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh

house again, forming

the Kuja

> dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh

house, but is aspecting

the lord

> Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause

an impact). Jupiter is

however

> aspecting the seventh house, and the person

married in the age of

Mars,

> namely 28th year.

>

> Female Native 1:

>

August 3, 1974

>

Time: 19:58:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00

(East of GMT)

>

Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N

40' 00"

>

Delhi, India

>

> In this chart, different from the other

charts, Mars though being

in the

> seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The

seventh lord is in the

sixth

> house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the

seventh where mars is

placed. This

> native married early BECAUSE Saturn is

removing the delay of Mars

in the

> seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove

kuja dosha. So the

person

> married around 21/22. It was however in the

natives 28th year that

the

> marriage fell apart.

>

> So in these three cases, i've shown that

Saturn is not delaying

marriage. In

> the first two cases, marriage was delayed but

Saturn did not

influence. In

> the last case marriage wasn't delayed, yet

Saturn did have aspect

on the

> seventh.

>

> But this doens't mean that Saturn can never

delay marriage. If

Saturn or

> Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are

able to delay

marriage, because

> the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for

dharma is Surya and

karaka for

> bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are

the worst ones to have

here.

> This is another way of intepreting Sri

Krishnas statement in the

Bhagavad

> Gita: "adharmabhibhavat krsna...".

>

> The age would then be 36th for Saturn and

45th for Rahu, after

which the

> graha has matured and the native has the

opportunity to marry.

Similarly if

> Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may

live a bachelor life-

style

> (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich

they will wake-up to

smell the

> sweet scent of married life.

>

> Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or

forming kujadosha (which

basically

> is mars' graha dristi on the seventh house),

to understand the

delay upto

> 28th year.

>

> These are natural years or 'naisargika'

years, and since marriage

is a

> natural phenomena, one of the best ways to

predict marriage is

using the

> naisargika dasa!

>

> But again, these are not the only causes of

delay in marriage.

Among the

> kendras, the tenth house is the strongest

house, and if four

planets are in

> a kendra-house, and joined the tenth

house/lord, then pravrajya

yoga is

> formed. People with such yogas will usually

delay marriage until

the age of

> the strongest planet. Up until that age, the

person will not accept

marriage

> as a true manifestation of love, or will

generally not believe in

marriage.

>

> In the chart that you have given, four

planets are in the tenth

house, and

> are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that

for some time, the

native will

> not believe in marriage, and also the

partners she meets (upapada)

will

> share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest

graha and will be the

main cause -

> ego. Could you clarify this persons relation

to their father -

dvadasamsa

> has surya in the twelfth house, which shows

that the father is not

present

> in the natives life.

>

> Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the

main theme of life and

remedies

> for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this

before? Rudra-abhisheka

and

> worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra

(surya is neecha in

navamsa),

> is required for atleast 40 days.

>

> Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart

by Moon joined Mangal

and

> Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna,

this makes the person very

> emotional to the extent of expressing signs

of lunacy. However

because Moon

> is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a

spiritual direction

rather

> than catching her in an endless limbo of

distress. This will

manifest in a

> greater way, in the last part of her life.

>

> Now for timing. In cases such as these, i

prefer Narayana dasa, to

show the

> exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran

from 97-03, and though

being

> lorded by Shukra, wasn't conducive towards

marriage. However, she

underwent

> a great change in life during this time.

>

> Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by

Shukra and Ketu,

which will

> again present her with opportunities to

marry. Here i do see her

marrying,

> before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart.

Here it will be

through the

> determination of Saturn (elders) who will

push her towards

marrying. It

> would be in the latter half of the dasa

(06-08), where the results

of

> lordship will be given. Further details

require the navamsa to be

rectified.

>

> Best wishes,

>

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> 17 November 2005 07:25

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage

please help

>

> II Hare Ram Krishna

II

>

> Respected Visti Guru Ji,

>

> Pranaam,

>

> Attached please find the chart of an

unmarried female native who

was born on

> 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of

tezpur,Assam, India. Though

you

> might have gone through once and suggested a

mantra too. Nothing

came out so

> far and their parents are still struggling

for her suitable matching

> partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted the

time of marriage but

no hope

> of materialising the event.

>

> I have different opinion with that of Nemani

Ji. Since I found your

comment

> on the preceding chart, I could not keep

myself quiet.As you

mentioned the

> combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th

house to remain the

native as

> bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing

factor of Jup. in this

chart.

> Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and

Navamsa lagna is occupied

by its 7th

> lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the Nak.of Sat.

>

> Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own

house may delay but

not deny

> the marriage. Now the problem arises if it

delays then how long ?

What is

> the method to reach up to the nearest time.

The native is now 34+

and

> present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven.

Mercury is involved with

7th house

> in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is

natural karak for

marriage. Though

> it is debilitated in rasi but has improved in

D9 so this planet

also may

> give the marriage. Jup in D9 pouring his

blessings to Venus. But

the fact is

> native is still unmarried.

>

> You may find the similar situation in the

attached chart. Hence I

request

> you humbly to analyse the marriage and its

sustenance area . You

may take

> your own time. I have found the non-marital

status but unable to

tell her

> parents. I want your readings and

confirmation for the sake of my

knowledge.

>

> Thanks and regards.

>

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and

the upapada, the person

lives

> like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette.

So the person will

also

> attract people who are interested in the same

lifestyle.

>

> In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so

the problem is the

type of

> work the person does.

>

> To clear this up the best remedy is fasting

on days of the upapada,

i.e.

> Fridays in this case. This way the person

will get the best

proposals and

> will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna.

>

> As for your perspective on sixth lord in the

tenth house, you must

reconcile

> with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the

work and lifestyle is

the

> problem.

>

> Btw. Please answer the posts in a more

appropriate tone. A person

has come

> to you for help.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

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> 14 November 2005 23:19

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage

please help

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Sonali,

> I am a student. The reasons for delay appear

to be Saturn's aspect

on the 7H

> and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing

a diamond may not be

the best

> thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast

on Fridays and to seek

> blessings for ma Lakshmi.

> Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L

placement in 10H may

show

> excessive focus on career as one of the

reasons for delay!

Ironically the

> activity that brings the spouse is also the

career as Saturn is 6L

and 7L

> too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a

fixed sign, so the spouse

may be

> from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may

actually be

instrumental in

> bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint

in 10H may show love

marriage.

> You are likely to have had some serious

relationships! ULL in 2H

may show

> marrying a person who was married before!

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

[] On

> Behalf Of sonalinigam28

> Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please

help

>

> Hello guruji

>

> Please tell me when I will get married and

why is so delay is

happening in

> my marriage?will i get married or not and

what are the remedies i

can do?

>

> My details are

>

> date of birth - 14th september 1971

> place of birth - delhi

> time of birth - 05:35 am

>

> Thanks

>

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Dear Vistiji,

Pranam. Your finding that Saturn will not delay the marriage through

its aspect on the 7th house but only if it aspects the 9th house

caught my imagination since it is something new and out of the box. I

checked all the three examples given by you to observe this phenonmena.

In the first example, you say that though Saturn does not aspect the

7th house, yet the native married late. But if you see the Navmas, Sat

is clearly aspecting the 7th house which explains the delay. Besides

Venus in the 7th is also not a good placement for a happy marriage.

In the second example, I am not able to find any reason why the

marriage was delayed. In any case Saturn is certainly not the culprit

and something else is causing the delay.

In the third example you say that Saturn actually helped an early

marriage through its aspect by removing the Kujadosha. This is again a

reveleation. But there is also a possibility of attributing the early

marriage to the strong infuence of Jupiter on the 7th house both in

rasi chart and NM.

I am only describing the other combinations present in the chart and

certainly not trying to contradict your theory. Please dont mind my

initiating a discussion on the subject. The idea is only to churn the

subject to attain perfection.

Pran Razdan

, ramesh mishra

<aarceemastro2002> wrote:

>

> II Hare Ram Krishna II

> Respected Visti Guru Ji, Pranaam,

> A lot of thanks for replying the mail. Your reply has confused me

betwwen the role of Mars and Saturn playing pertaing to the delay of

marriage. There significations are quite different yet you have said

about the Saturn that it can delay and can never delay the marriage

too. You have quoted the examples of three charts. So let me prepare

the reply well for further continuation of discussion.I write to you

in next days.Due to time constraint I am unable to devote myself on

the net.

> However I respect you as my GURU whether u consider me as a

disciple or not.

> In the case of my female chart you have estimated the year of 2008

which is also doubtfull because I am looking this chart as non-marital

status. Reason is well clear. So let me hope for the best.

> Thanks and best wishes.

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

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> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

> A long and clarifying note this time.

> First the previous chart; I wrote that the person is living like a

bachelor, but i never said that the person will remain that way. In my

previous mail i elaborated on the timing, where Mercury mahadasa has

taken the person out of this frame of mind and is pursuing marriage. I

also clarified that the problem is NOT opportunity, but is

PERSONALITY. Many movie stars have plenty of lovers, but because of

their world-view, they may be delaying marriage.

> Also I do not believe that Saturns aspect on the seventh house has

delayed marriage. In many charts, Saturns influence on the seventh

house has not delayed marriage, and instead it is Marsï¿½ influence on

the seventh which can delay marriage, and this has to do with the

intention of Mars to keep one in the Brahmacharya varnashrama. This is

one of the effects of kuja dosha. Btw. Marsï¿½ natural year is 28. Now

see below.

> Examples:

> Male Native 1:

> October 11, 1973

> Time: 20:40:30

> Time Zone: 8:00:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 114 E 55' 00", 4 N 56' 00"

> Mars is placed in the twelfth house, forming the kuja dosha, and

Saturn is NOT aspecting the seventh house nor its lord Mars. The

person married after his 28th year. I think the exact age was around

30/31.

> Male Native 2:

> August 7, 1963

> Time: 21:15:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 84 E 01' 00", 21 N 28' 00"

> Sambalpur, India

> In this chart, Mars is placed in the seventh house again, forming

the Kuja dosha. Saturn is not aspecting the seventh house, but is

aspecting the lord Mercury by rasi dristi (not enough to cause an

impact). Jupiter is however aspecting the seventh house, and the

person married in the age of Mars, namely 28th year.

> Female Native 1:

> August 3, 1974

> Time: 19:58:00

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00"

> Delhi, India

> In this chart, different from the other charts, Mars though being

in the seventh house, is aspected by Saturn. The seventh lord is in

the sixth house, and Jupiter is also aspecting the seventh where mars

is placed. This native married early BECAUSE Saturn is removing the

delay of Mars in the seventh house. This is why Saturn can remove kuja

dosha. So the person married around 21/22. It was however in the

natives 28th year that the marriage fell apart.

> So in these three cases, iï¿½ve shown that Saturn is not delaying

marriage. In the first two cases, marriage was delayed but Saturn did

not influence. In the last case marriage wasnï¿½t delayed, yet Saturn

did have aspect on the seventh.

> But this doensï¿½t mean that Saturn can never delay marriage. If

Saturn or Rahu are placed in the ninth house, they are able to delay

marriage, because the bhagya is thus being denied. Karaka for dharma

is Surya and karaka for bhagya is Guru, and thus Shani and Rahu are

the worst ones to have here. This is another way of intepreting Sri

Krishnas statement in the Bhagavad Gita: ï¿½adharmabhibhavat krsna...ï¿½.

> The age would then be 36th for Saturn and 45th for Rahu, after

which the graha has matured and the native has the opportunity to

marry. Similarly if Saturn is joined arudha lagna, the person may live

a bachelor life-style (even whilst married) until 36, afterwhich they

will wake-up to smell the sweet scent of married life.

> Similarly we used Mars in the seventh, or forming kujadosha (which

basically is marsï¿½ graha dristi on the seventh house), to understand

the delay upto 28th year.

> These are natural years or ï¿½naisargikaï¿½ years, and since marriage

is a natural phenomena, one of the best ways to predict marriage is

using the naisargika dasa!

> But again, these are not the only causes of delay in marriage.

Among the kendras, the tenth house is the strongest house, and if four

planets are in a kendra-house, and joined the tenth house/lord, then

pravrajya yoga is formed. People with such yogas will usually delay

marriage until the age of the strongest planet. Up until that age, the

person will not accept marriage as a true manifestation of love, or

will generally not believe in marriage.

>

> In the chart that you have given, four planets are in the tenth

house, and are ALSO joined the upapada. This means that for some time,

the native will not believe in marriage, and also the partners she

meets (upapada) will share this oppinion. Sun is the strongest graha

and will be the main cause ï¿½ ego. Could you clarify this persons

relation to their father ï¿½ dvadasamsa has surya in the twelfth house,

which shows that the father is not present in the natives life.

> Since Sun is also atmakaraka, this is the main theme of life and

remedies for Shiva need to be given. Did i give this before?

Rudra-abhisheka and worshipping shiva with the Rameshvara mantra

(surya is neecha in navamsa), is required for atleast 40 days.

> Another Pravrajya yoga is formed in the chart by Moon joined

Mangal and Shani. Since this is formed in the lagna, this makes the

person very emotional to the extent of expressing signs of lunacy.

However because Moon is in a dual navamsa, this will move her in a

spiritual direction rather than catching her in an endless limbo of

distress. This will manifest in a greater way, in the last part of her

life.

> Now for timing. In cases such as these, i prefer Narayana dasa, to

show the exact circumstances. Libra narayana dasa ran from 97-03, and

though being lorded by Shukra, wasnï¿½t conducive towards marriage.

However, she underwent a great change in life during this time.

> Next is Scorpio (03-08), which is aspected by Shukra and Ketu,

which will again present her with opportunities to marry. Here i do

see her marrying, before 2008 based on the dasa pravesh chart. Here it

will be through the determination of Saturn (elders) who will push her

towards marrying. It would be in the latter half of the dasa (06-08),

where the results of lordship will be given. Further details require

the navamsa to be rectified.

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> 17 November 2005 07:25

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

>

> II Hare Ram Krishna II

>

> Respected Visti Guru Ji,

>

> Pranaam,

>

> Attached please find the chart of an unmarried female native who

was born on 06 May 1976 at 10:34 am at the place of tezpur,Assam,

India. Though you might have gone through once and suggested a mantra

too. Nothing came out so far and their parents are still struggling

for her suitable matching partner. Sri R R Nemani Ji also predicted

the time of marriage but no hope of materialising the event.

>

> I have different opinion with that of Nemani Ji. Since I found

your comment on the preceding chart, I could not keep myself quiet.As

you mentioned the combination of Sat with AL and UL in the 10th house

to remain the native as bachelorette. But don't you find the gracing

factor of Jup. in this chart. Jup. is aspecting 7th lord in Rashi and

Navamsa lagna is occupied by its 7th lord Jup. Of course Jup is in the

Nak.of Sat.

>

> Sat being the 7th lord and aspecting his own house may delay but

not deny the marriage. Now the problem arises if it delays then how

long ? What is the method to reach up to the nearest time. The native

is now 34+ and present Dasa running is that of Mer/Ven. Mercury is

involved with 7th house in rashi and navamsa too.AD lord Venus is

natural karak for marriage. Though it is debilitated in rasi but has

improved in D9 so this planet also may give the marriage. Jup in D9

pouring his blessings to Venus. But the fact is native is still unmarried.

>

> You may find the similar situation in the attached chart. Hence

I request you humbly to analyse the marriage and its sustenance area .

You may take your own time. I have found the non-marital status but

unable to tell her parents. I want your readings and confirmation for

the sake of my knowledge.

>

> Thanks and regards.

>

> Ramesh Mishra

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ramesh, Namaskar

>

> When Saturn is joined the arudha lagna and the upapada, the

person lives like a bachelor... in this case bachelorette. So the

person will also attract people who are interested in the same lifestyle.

>

> In this case Saturn is in the tenth house, so the problem is the

type of work the person does.

>

> To clear this up the best remedy is fasting on days of the

upapada, i.e. Fridays in this case. This way the person will get the

best proposals and will be able to pay off the Pitri-rna.

>

> As for your perspective on sixth lord in the tenth house, you

must reconcile with it also being seventh lord. I agree, the work and

lifestyle is the problem.

>

> Btw. Please answer the posts in a more appropriate tone. A

person has come to you for help.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

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>

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[] On Behalf Of Ramesh F. Gangaramani

> 14 November 2005 23:19

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

>

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Sonali,

> I am a student. The reasons for delay appear to be Saturn's aspect

on the 7H

> and ULL Venus being debilitated. Now wearing a diamond may not be

the best

> thing for Leo lagna. It would be good to fast on Fridays and to seek

> blessings for ma Lakshmi.

> Wonder if you are a career women! If so! 6L placement in 10H may show

> excessive focus on career as one of the reasons for delay!

Ironically the

> activity that brings the spouse is also the career as Saturn is 6L

and 7L

> too! 7L from Venus is Jupiter placed in a fixed sign, so the spouse

may be

> from same town and Jupiter (Guru or boss) may actually be

instrumental in

> bringing the spouse. AL, UL and 7L conjoint in 10H may show love

marriage.

> You are likely to have had some serious relationships! ULL in 2H may

show

> marrying a person who was married before!

> Best Wishes,

> Ramesh

>

[] On

> Behalf Of sonalinigam28

> Monday, November 14, 2005 6:59 AM

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Marriage please help

>

> Hello guruji

>

> Please tell me when I will get married and why is so delay is

happening in

> my marriage?will i get married or not and what are the remedies i

can do?

>

> My details are

>

> date of birth - 14th september 1971

> place of birth - delhi

> time of birth - 05:35 am

>

> Thanks

>

> Sonali

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Pranam Visti ji,

Many thanks for explaining the principles.

Regarding mars , yes I know that point but want your explanation about

it's bodhaka role to sun. Or am I streching?

Secondly regarding Sat I've observed in 2 charts with Sat in 9th, that

one lost his partner and still leading bachelors life. Second case

have Sat+moon in 9th and engagement is done but ultimately marrigae

doesn't take place. Unfortunately these are 2nd from UL as well. So

now shall we have to move to 8th from UL to see next partner or have

to continue with same UL ? I think this is serious relationship and

it's comes to an end so have to move to 8th from UL. Am I correct?

Secondly significance of 3rd as requirement is still not clear. What

about 4th and 6th house? Or you mean to say exactly reverse? Like for

parakrama (3rd) intellegince is required. For knowledge (4th) dhan, or

samskaras is required, for dharma to follow marriage is required, to

meake friends in life Dharma (ideals) is vital, to enhance intellect

gains or even astrology is required!! Like way... Or it's like pairs?

One more thing you have mentioned malefics in upachaya are good but

i.e. from Lagna. Now my little understanding is, basically upachaya is

growth and 3rd shows mithuna or copulation (again mars comes into

picture, strength in general required) Now malefics in 3rd from 7th

house shows excessive growth of copulation (3rd) desires(of 7th H)

Hence causing fall in dharma. Which will affect lagna (sun) and paka

lagna (jup) both !! and detrimental to them . Is there any thing which

I'm missing?

Your guideline is very much required. Keep guiding me.

With Pranam,

Vinay P

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Vinay, Namaskar

>

> Nice understanding.

>

> Venus controls virya; this is what Parasara says, and a strong Venus

will

> make the person very picky about whom they spend their virya on,

whilst a

> weak venus is indiscriminte in nature. Thats why a strong Venus is also

> called Brighu.

>

> Mars on the other hand just doesn't wanto enter life of a

householder, and

> thus will obstruct the marriage. This wasn't the main point of your

mail,

> but i wanted to mention it.

>

> Saturn hates the Sun and debilitates Jupiter... so i'm sure the

problem is

> both ways. Even Rahu isn't too fond of either of Sun and Jupiter,

but mainly

> Saturn is afflicting the dharma of Surya whilst Rahu is affecting

the bhagya

> of Guru.

>

> As for ninth house; One reason you gave was from the Gita - this is

> accepted.

>

> The other was regarding upachaya... whilst this is true, you need to

be more

> clear, because Parasara states that malefics are good in upachaya.

Keep in

> mind that he is talking about the upachaya from lagna. Also we are just

> talking about one of these upachaya bhavas, namely the third house.

>

> See the third house from ANY house, indicates 'that which is

required' for

> the house. E.g. Fifth house shows children, and you cannot have children

> without sex, so seventh house (third from fifth) is required.

Similarly the

> seventh house indicates marriage, and you cannot marry without dharma;

> without dharma there would be no laws and thus no marriage, so ninth

house

> (third from seventh) is required for this.

>

> If planets like Saturn and Rahu are in the ninth, then dharma is low

and we

> need to strengthen the dharma through certain means. Usually by just

> increasing the significations of the ninth house, i.e. Gayatri mantra,

> Yellow Stone or Red Stone, etc.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

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