Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Surya, Namaskar It is unlikely that Sri Rama had A3 in Mesha. From the known details, His lagna is Karka, with 3rd lord Budha in Vrishabha. His A3 should be in Makara, with uccha Kuja. regards viswanadham On 11/7/05, Surya Rao <suryarao12 wrote: > > || Om Suryaya Nama:|| > > > Dear Sourav, > > "my A3 is in Aries and it makes people view my writings aggressive" - Why do > you accept this kind of astrology? > What is wrong in being aggressive? If someone has such opinion, you will go > into hibernation? Ofcourse, mounavrtam is good. May be Bhargava Rama also > had A3 in Aries? He never had any remorse on his aggressiveness - went round > 21 times to destroy all sinners. So your aggressiveness has to be in making > your axe sharper. > > Keep the spirit - don't throw away your axe > > Surya Rao Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 wrote: > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > Dear Visti-ji, > > Pranaam. Point noted. Internet forum is always > difficult place to interact as a lot of imagination covers words > written/read. Now a days culture is adding to such confusions as well. > > As you mentioned before, my A3 is in Aries and it makes people view my > writings aggressive. > > As a remedy, no more writings from me for 1 month in this list. > > Best regards, > > Sourav > > ================================================ > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > > > > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > > > Dear Rafal and Sourav, Namaskar > > > > Mars is currently reaching the peak of its retrogresion, with the Sun > being > > opposite it. This is like a Full-Mars, and these days you may be abit > more > > sensitive towards other peoples mails and statements. > > > > Someone also had something to say about me recently, but since it was a > > clear misunderstanding of context, i didn't do anything more about it... > One > > who has faith like Prahlada doesn't need to defend themself, and we > should > > all aspire to attain a state like this. > > > > Also keep in mind that writing is seen from the third house. The main > karaka > > for the third house is Mars, thus it is inevitable that when some people > > start writing, they begin throwing all sorts of 'red-ink' on the paper, > > especially with the difference in culture among the written and spoken > > languages. > > > > So guys... relax, and spend your energy on something more worthwhile. > Maybe > > take a break from writing for a a day or two to get some perspective. > > > > Best wishes, > > > > *** > > > > Visti Larsen > > > > For services and articles visit: > > > > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com> > > http://astrovisti.com > > > > *** > > > > _____ > > > > [] > On > > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz > > 07 November 2005 08:14 > > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji > > > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > > > > > I am not asking You to use "please". > > > > > > > > But when You want me to do something You can't do this with tone / mood > You > > are using in Your posts, because I dont treat You as authority. > > > > > > > > Please continue Jyotish with culture. > > > > > > > > Regards > > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 > > > > > > > > Monday, November 07, 2005 2:53 AM > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > namaskar. I feel you are incensed. There was really no bad > > intention, hence I assure you that you may not take up a defensive > position. > > > > Thanks for pointing out that you were discussing on navamsa only and not > > rasi. You should know that people do make such mistakes. I apologize for > > this mistake. > > > > Being a fellow student, "please" is not necessary. If you deem it > necessary > > I will use "please" but with this attitude you will perhaps curtail your > > ability to learn from your fellow students and/or help them to learn from > > you. Again my opinion, and you may disagree. > > > > Everyone one of us sees the world in the specific way we > > unconsciously/consciously want to. Visti-ji and I had a discussion before > > about this (w.r.t A3 placement). > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sourav > > > > ================================================= > > , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@w... > > wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > Comments below. > > > Regards > > > Rafal Gendarz > > > > > > - > > > Sourav Chowdhury > > > > > > Sunday, November 06, 2005 3:40 PM > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > Namaskar. Comments below. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > ================================================ > > > , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@w... > > wrote: > > > > > > > > II Hare Rama Krsna II > > > > Dear Sourav, > > > > > > > > In Navamsa You can treat seventh lord as Lagna. > > > > > > [sourav]: First of all, were your comments (for 8L in 7H etc) for > Navamsa > > or Rasi. I thought it is for rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > [Rafal] Therefore You are to quick to comment. > > > > > > It was Navamsa. > > > > > > > > > > > > 7H shows relationships of all sorts (2H shows family, 11H shows > friends). > > In Navamsa, 7H in the house of relationship in the field of dharma (which > > includes marriage as marriage is part of dharma). A7 indicates the > persons > > with whom the native has those relationships and it very general in > nature. > > Hence, to see the wife in particular, use Upapada as the lagna of the > spouse > > and derive the results. Read Upa Pada chapter in BPHS. and article 10.2 > in > > Visti-ji's book. > > > > > > [Rafal] > > > > > > I dont use Arudha's in Navamsa per my Guruji teachings. > > > > > > You dont have position to advise me what to read without "please". > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > Sourav Chowdhury > > > > > > > > Sunday, November 06, 2005 2:23 AM > > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji > > > > > > > > > > > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > > > > > > > Dear Rafal, > > > > > > > > > > > > > 8L in 7H > > > > > > > > > > a) if benefic it can be good for sustanance of marriage > > > > > > > > > > b) spouse has help and availabilities / resources comming from > > > > > community or family > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Why ? > > > > > > > > 8H has quite evil significances except a few viz. longivity etc. 8L > has > > the potential and responsibility to creat obstacles and gives shocks. > While > > malefic 8L in 7H can create all sorts of problems in the worst way, > benefic > > 8L still gives difficulties nonetheless, perhaps in a bit gentle manner. > If > > 8L is benefic and in 7H, and receives malefic aspects there, evils to > > marraige/relationships cannot be ruled out. > > > > > > > > While I reiterate that 8L in 7H should be viewed in background of > rasi > > occupation and other aspects of the chart, 8L in 7H can give breaks in > > marraige (making way for a second wife) and downfall in business (7H ). > > > > > > > > Parasara gives specific effects of grahas in the 7H. You can use that > > too along with the 8L-in-7H fact. > > > > > > > > The only good thing can be that the Native can have a long life if 8L > is > > in a kendra (BPHS). The reason is that 8L rules longivity. In that case, > A8 > > will always be in the 6-12 axis. > > > > > > > > Hope I added something to this discussion. > > > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > > > Sourav > > > > > > > > ================================================ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that > > the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading > > today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > b.. > > > > > > > > > > > > c.. Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that > the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading > today > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > b.. > > > > > > > > > c.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------- > > -- > > > > > > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > > > > > > > > > * Visit your group " > > <> " on the web. > > > > * > > > > <?subject=Un> > > > > * > > <> Terms of Service. > > > > > > > > > > _____ > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > > > > > > > > Visit your group "" on the web. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. > -- Viswanadham Management Consultant MONEYMATTERS + 91 98 202 28271 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 why we members are misleading to another topic of discussion. It was a simple question about navmasa and the matter raised to two wonderful persons arguing for nothing. Sir sometimes the words depends upon the frame of mind and when we read it too depends on the same. Thanks and regards Tarun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 You have not read it correctly. I spoke of Bhargava_Rama not Sri Rama. Bhargava, the fiery Brahmin who destroyed Kshatriyas 21 times... SuryaViswanadham <vishwanatham > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Surya, NamaskarIt is unlikely that Sri Rama had A3 in Mesha. From the known details,His lagna is Karka, with 3rd lord Budha in Vrishabha. His A3 should bein Makara, with uccha Kuja.regardsviswanadhamOn 11/7/05, Surya Rao <suryarao12 > wrote:>> || Om Suryaya Nama:||>>> Dear Sourav,>> "my A3 is in Aries and it makes people view my writings aggressive" - Why do> you accept this kind of astrology?> What is wrong in being aggressive? If someone has such opinion, you will go> into hibernation? Ofcourse, mounavrtam is good. May be Bhargava Rama also> had A3 in Aries? He never had any remorse on his aggressiveness - went round> 21 times to destroy all sinners. So your aggressiveness has to be in making> your axe sharper.>> Keep the spirit - don't throw away your axe>> Surya Rao>>>>>>> Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 > wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna ||>> Dear Visti-ji,>> Pranaam. Point noted. Internet forum is always> difficult place to interact as a lot of imagination covers words> written/read. Now a days culture is adding to such confusions as well.>> As you mentioned before, my A3 is in Aries and it makes people view my> writings aggressive.>> As a remedy, no more writings from me for 1 month in this list.>> Best regards,>> Sourav>> ================================================> --- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> >> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> > Dear Rafal and Sourav, Namaskar> >> > Mars is currently reaching the peak of its retrogresion, with the Sun> being> > opposite it. This is like a Full-Mars, and these days you may be abit> more> > sensitive towards other peoples mails and statements.> >> > Someone also had something to say about me recently, but since it was a> > clear misunderstanding of context, i didn't do anything more about it...> One> > who has faith like Prahlada doesn't need to defend themself, and we> should> > all aspire to attain a state like this.> >> > Also keep in mind that writing is seen from the third house. The main> karaka> > for the third house is Mars, thus it is inevitable that when some people> > start writing, they begin throwing all sorts of 'red-ink' on the paper,> > especially with the difference in culture among the written and spoken> > languages.> >> > So guys... relax, and spend your energy on something more worthwhile.> Maybe> > take a break from writing for a a day or two to get some perspective.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > ***> >> > Visti Larsen> >> > For services and articles visit:> >> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > http://astrovisti.com> >> > ***> >> > _____> >> > []> On> > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz> > 07 November 2005 08:14> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji> >> >> >> > Dear Sourav,> >> >> >> > I am not asking You to use "please".> >> >> >> > But when You want me to do something You can't do this with tone / mood> You> > are using in Your posts, because I dont treat You as authority.> >> >> >> > Please continue Jyotish with culture.> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Rafal Gendarz> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -> >> > Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108> >> > To: > >> > Monday, November 07, 2005 2:53 AM> >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji> >> >> >> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > namaskar. I feel you are incensed. There was really no bad> > intention, hence I assure you that you may not take up a defensive> position.> >> > Thanks for pointing out that you were discussing on navamsa only and not> > rasi. You should know that people do make such mistakes. I apologize for> > this mistake.> >> > Being a fellow student, "please" is not necessary. If you deem it> necessary> > I will use "please" but with this attitude you will perhaps curtail your> > ability to learn from your fellow students and/or help them to learn from> > you. Again my opinion, and you may disagree.> >> > Everyone one of us sees the world in the specific way we> > unconsciously/consciously want to. Visti-ji and I had a discussion before> > about this (w.r.t A3 placement).> >> > Best regards,> >> > Sourav> >> > =================================================> > --- In , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@w...> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sourav,> > > Comments below.> > > Regards> > > Rafal Gendarz> > >> > > -> > > Sourav Chowdhury> > > To: > > > Sunday, November 06, 2005 3:40 PM> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji> > >> > >> > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > >> > > Dear Rafal,> > >> > > Namaskar. Comments below.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Sourav> > >> > > ================================================> > > --- In , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@w...> > wrote:> > > >> > > > II Hare Rama Krsna II> > > > Dear Sourav,> > > >> > > > In Navamsa You can treat seventh lord as Lagna.> > >> > > [sourav]: First of all, were your comments (for 8L in 7H etc) for> Navamsa> > or Rasi. I thought it is for rasi.> > >> > >> > >> > > [Rafal] Therefore You are to quick to comment.> > >> > > It was Navamsa.> > >> > >> > >> > > 7H shows relationships of all sorts (2H shows family, 11H shows> friends).> > In Navamsa, 7H in the house of relationship in the field of dharma (which> > includes marriage as marriage is part of dharma). A7 indicates the> persons> > with whom the native has those relationships and it very general in> nature.> > Hence, to see the wife in particular, use Upapada as the lagna of the> spouse> > and derive the results. Read Upa Pada chapter in BPHS. and article 10.2> in> > Visti-ji's book.> > >> > > [Rafal]> > >> > > I dont use Arudha's in Navamsa per my Guruji teachings.> > >> > > You dont have position to advise me what to read without "please".> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > ----- Original Message -----> > > > Sourav Chowdhury> > > > > > > > Sunday, November 06, 2005 2:23 AM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji> > > >> > > >> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > >> > > > > 8L in 7H> > > > >> > > > > a) if benefic it can be good for sustanance of marriage> > > > >> > > > > b) spouse has help and availabilities / resources comming from> > > > > community or family> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Why ?> > > >> > > > 8H has quite evil significances except a few viz. longivity etc. 8L> has> > the potential and responsibility to creat obstacles and gives shocks.> While> > malefic 8L in 7H can create all sorts of problems in the worst way,> benefic> > 8L still gives difficulties nonetheless, perhaps in a bit gentle manner.> If> > 8L is benefic and in 7H, and receives malefic aspects there, evils to> > marraige/relationships cannot be ruled out.> > > >> > > > While I reiterate that 8L in 7H should be viewed in background of> rasi> > occupation and other aspects of the chart, 8L in 7H can give breaks in> > marraige (making way for a second wife) and downfall in business (7H ).> > > >> > > > Parasara gives specific effects of grahas in the 7H. You can use that> > too along with the 8L-in-7H fact.> > > >> > > > The only good thing can be that the Native can have a long life if 8L> is> > in a kendra (BPHS). The reason is that 8L rules longivity. In that case,> A8> > will always be in the 6-12 axis.> > > >> > > > Hope I added something to this discussion.> > > >> > > > Best regards,> > > >> > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > ================================================> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that> > the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> > today> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> ----------> > --> > > > > > > >> > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web.> > > >> > > > b.. To from this group, send an email to:> > > > > > > >> > > > c.. Your use of is subject to the Terms of> Service.> >> > > >> > > >> > > >> >> ----------> > --> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that> the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> today> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> ----------> > --> > > > > >> > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web.> > >> > > b.. > > > > > >> > > c.. Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of Service.>> > >> > >> > >> >> ----------> > --> > >> >> >> >> > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today>> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> >> > > >> >> >> > * Visit your group "> > <> " on the web.> >> > * > > > > <?subject=Un>> >> > * > > <> Terms of Service.> >> >> >> >> > _____> >>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today>>>> > >>> Visit your group "" on the web.>> To from this group, send an email to:> >> Your use of is subject to the >>> >>>> > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.>--ViswanadhamManagement ConsultantMONEYMATTERS+ 91 98 202 28271 FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. 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Guest guest Posted November 8, 2005 Report Share Posted November 8, 2005 Dear Surya, Namaskar Thanks for the correction. You have the birth data of Bhargava Rama? Pls post the data, if you have. Thanks & regards Viswanadham On 11/8/05, Surya Rao <suryarao12 > wrote: Dear Visvanadham, You have not read it correctly. I spoke of Bhargava_Rama not Sri Rama. Bhargava, the fiery Brahmin who destroyed Kshatriyas 21 times... Surya Viswanadham <vishwanatham > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Surya, NamaskarIt is unlikely that Sri Rama had A3 in Mesha. From the known details,His lagna is Karka, with 3rd lord Budha in Vrishabha. His A3 should be in Makara, with uccha Kuja.regardsviswanadhamOn 11/7/05, Surya Rao <suryarao12 > wrote:>> || Om Suryaya Nama:||>>> Dear Sourav,>> "my A3 is in Aries and it makes people view my writings aggressive" - Why do> you accept this kind of astrology? > What is wrong in being aggressive? If someone has such opinion, you will go> into hibernation? Ofcourse, mounavrtam is good. May be Bhargava Rama also> had A3 in Aries? He never had any remorse on his aggressiveness - went round > 21 times to destroy all sinners. So your aggressiveness has to be in making> your axe sharper.>> Keep the spirit - don't throw away your axe>> Surya Rao>>> >>>> Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 > wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna || >> Dear Visti-ji,>> Pranaam. Point noted. Internet forum is always> difficult place to interact as a lot of imagination covers words> written/read. Now a days culture is adding to such confusions as well. >> As you mentioned before, my A3 is in Aries and it makes people view my> writings aggressive.>> As a remedy, no more writings from me for 1 month in this list.>> Best regards, >> Sourav>> ================================================> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> >> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> > Dear Rafal and Sourav, Namaskar> >> > Mars is currently reaching the peak of its retrogresion, with the Sun > being> > opposite it. This is like a Full-Mars, and these days you may be abit> more> > sensitive towards other peoples mails and statements.> >> > Someone also had something to say about me recently, but since it was a > > clear misunderstanding of context, i didn't do anything more about it...> One> > who has faith like Prahlada doesn't need to defend themself, and we> should> > all aspire to attain a state like this. > >> > Also keep in mind that writing is seen from the third house. The main> karaka> > for the third house is Mars, thus it is inevitable that when some people> > start writing, they begin throwing all sorts of 'red-ink' on the paper, > > especially with the difference in culture among the written and spoken> > languages.> >> > So guys... relax, and spend your energy on something more worthwhile.> Maybe > > take a break from writing for a a day or two to get some perspective.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > ***> >> > Visti Larsen> >> > For services and articles visit: > >> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > http://astrovisti.com> >> > ***> >> > _____> >> > []> On> > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz > > 07 November 2005 08:14> > > > Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji > >> >> >> > Dear Sourav,> >> >> >> > I am not asking You to use "please".> >> >> >> > But when You want me to do something You can't do this with tone / mood > You> > are using in Your posts, because I dont treat You as authority.> >> >> >> > Please continue Jyotish with culture.> >> >> > > > Regards> >> > Rafal Gendarz> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> >> > Sourav Chowdhury < souravc108> >> > > >> > Monday, November 07, 2005 2:53 AM> >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji> >> >> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > namaskar. I feel you are incensed. There was really no bad> > intention, hence I assure you that you may not take up a defensive > position.> >> > Thanks for pointing out that you were discussing on navamsa only and not> > rasi. You should know that people do make such mistakes. I apologize for> > this mistake. > >> > Being a fellow student, "please" is not necessary. If you deem it> necessary> > I will use "please" but with this attitude you will perhaps curtail your> > ability to learn from your fellow students and/or help them to learn from > > you. Again my opinion, and you may disagree.> >> > Everyone one of us sees the world in the specific way we> > unconsciously/consciously want to. Visti-ji and I had a discussion before > > about this (w.r.t A3 placement).> >> > Best regards,> >> > Sourav> >> > =================================================> > , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@w...> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sourav,> > > Comments below.> > > Regards> > > Rafal Gendarz > > >> > > -> > > Sourav Chowdhury> > > > > > Sunday, November 06, 2005 3:40 PM> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji> > >> > >> > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > >> > > Dear Rafal,> > >> > > Namaskar. Comments below.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Sourav> > > > > > ================================================> > > --- In , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@w...> > wrote:> > > >> > > > II Hare Rama Krsna II> > > > Dear Sourav,> > > >> > > > In Navamsa You can treat seventh lord as Lagna. > > >> > > [sourav]: First of all, were your comments (for 8L in 7H etc) for> Navamsa> > or Rasi. I thought it is for rasi.> > >> > >> > > > > > [Rafal] Therefore You are to quick to comment.> > >> > > It was Navamsa.> > >> > >> > >> > > 7H shows relationships of all sorts (2H shows family, 11H shows > friends).> > In Navamsa, 7H in the house of relationship in the field of dharma (which> > includes marriage as marriage is part of dharma). A7 indicates the> persons> > with whom the native has those relationships and it very general in > nature.> > Hence, to see the wife in particular, use Upapada as the lagna of the> spouse> > and derive the results. Read Upa Pada chapter in BPHS. and article 10.2> in> > Visti-ji's book. > > >> > > [Rafal]> > >> > > I dont use Arudha's in Navamsa per my Guruji teachings.> > >> > > You dont have position to advise me what to read without "please". > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > -> > > > Sourav Chowdhury> > > > > > > > Sunday, November 06, 2005 2:23 AM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji > > > >> > > >> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > >> > > > > 8L in 7H > > > > >> > > > > a) if benefic it can be good for sustanance of marriage> > > > >> > > > > b) spouse has help and availabilities / resources comming from > > > > > community or family> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Why ?> > > >> > > > 8H has quite evil significances except a few viz. longivity etc. 8L > has> > the potential and responsibility to creat obstacles and gives shocks.> While> > malefic 8L in 7H can create all sorts of problems in the worst way,> benefic> > 8L still gives difficulties nonetheless, perhaps in a bit gentle manner. > If> > 8L is benefic and in 7H, and receives malefic aspects there, evils to> > marraige/relationships cannot be ruled out.> > > >> > > > While I reiterate that 8L in 7H should be viewed in background of > rasi> > occupation and other aspects of the chart, 8L in 7H can give breaks in> > marraige (making way for a second wife) and downfall in business (7H ).> > > >> > > > Parasara gives specific effects of grahas in the 7H. You can use that > > too along with the 8L-in-7H fact.> > > >> > > > The only good thing can be that the Native can have a long life if 8L> is> > in a kendra (BPHS). The reason is that 8L rules longivity. In that case, > A8> > will always be in the 6-12 axis.> > > >> > > > Hope I added something to this discussion.> > > >> > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > ================================================> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that > > the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> > today> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> ----------> > --> > > > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web.> > > >> > > > b.. To from this group, send an email to:> > > > > > > >> > > > c.. Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of> Service.> >> > > >> > > > > > > >> >> ----------> > --> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that > the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> today> >> > >> > > > > >> > >> >> ----------> > --> > > > > >> > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > >> > > b.. > > > > > >> > > c.. Your use of is subject to the >> > >> > >> > >> > > ----------> > --> > >> >> >> >> > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today>> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> >> > > >> >> >> > * Visit your group "> > < > " on the web.> >> > * To from this group, send an email to:> > > > < ?subject=Un>> >> > * Your use of is subject to the > > < > Terms of Service.> >> >> >> >> > _____> >>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today>>>> > >>> Visit your group "" on the web. >> > >> >>> >>>> > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.>--ViswanadhamManagement ConsultantMONEYMATTERS+ 91 98 202 28271 FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. 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Guest guest Posted November 9, 2005 Report Share Posted November 9, 2005 You gave me the birth data of Rama and Krishna, I will give you that of Bhargava and all others including that of Khadgi. But I want date, time and place of birth - not just a chart that is imagination of someone. Surya Viswanadham <vishwanatham > wrote: Hare Rama Krishna Dear Surya, Namaskar Thanks for the correction. You have the birth data of Bhargava Rama? Pls post the data, if you have. Thanks & regards Viswanadham On 11/8/05, Surya Rao <suryarao12 > wrote: Dear Visvanadham, You have not read it correctly. I spoke of Bhargava_Rama not Sri Rama. Bhargava, the fiery Brahmin who destroyed Kshatriyas 21 times... Surya Viswanadham <vishwanatham > wrote: Hare Rama KrishnaDear Surya, NamaskarIt is unlikely that Sri Rama had A3 in Mesha. From the known details,His lagna is Karka, with 3rd lord Budha in Vrishabha. His A3 should be in Makara, with uccha Kuja.regardsviswanadhamOn 11/7/05, Surya Rao <suryarao12 > wrote:>> || Om Suryaya Nama:||>>> Dear Sourav,>> "my A3 is in Aries and it makes people view my writings aggressive" - Why do> you accept this kind of astrology? > What is wrong in being aggressive? If someone has such opinion, you will go> into hibernation? Ofcourse, mounavrtam is good. May be Bhargava Rama also> had A3 in Aries? He never had any remorse on his aggressiveness - went round > 21 times to destroy all sinners. So your aggressiveness has to be in making> your axe sharper.>> Keep the spirit - don't throw away your axe>> Surya Rao>>>>>>> Sourav Chowdhury <souravc108 > wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krishna || >> Dear Visti-ji,>> Pranaam. Point noted. Internet forum is always> difficult place to interact as a lot of imagination covers words> written/read. Now a days culture is adding to such confusions as well. >> As you mentioned before, my A3 is in Aries and it makes people view my> writings aggressive.>> As a remedy, no more writings from me for 1 month in this list.>> Best regards, >> Sourav>> ================================================> --- In , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> >> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||> >> > Dear Rafal and Sourav, Namaskar> >> > Mars is currently reaching the peak of its retrogresion, with the Sun > being> > opposite it. This is like a Full-Mars, and these days you may be abit> more> > sensitive towards other peoples mails and statements.> >> > Someone also had something to say about me recently, but since it was a > > clear misunderstanding of context, i didn't do anything more about it...> One> > who has faith like Prahlada doesn't need to defend themself, and we> should> > all aspire to attain a state like this. > >> > Also keep in mind that writing is seen from the third house. The main> karaka> > for the third house is Mars, thus it is inevitable that when some people> > start writing, they begin throwing all sorts of 'red-ink' on the paper, > > especially with the difference in culture among the written and spoken> > languages.> >> > So guys... relax, and spend your energy on something more worthwhile.> Maybe> > take a break from writing for a a day or two to get some perspective.> >> > Best wishes,> >> > ***> >> > Visti Larsen> >> > For services and articles visit: > >> > <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or <http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> > http://astrovisti.com> >> > ***> >> > _____> >> > []> On> > Behalf Of Rafal Gendarz > > Sent: 07 November 2005 08:14> > > > Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji > >> >> >> > Dear Sourav,> >> >> >> > I am not asking You to use "please".> >> >> >> > But when You want me to do something You can't do this with tone / mood > You> > are using in Your posts, because I dont treat You as authority.> >> >> >> > Please continue Jyotish with culture.> >> >> >> > Regards> >> > Rafal Gendarz> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > ----- Original Message -----> >> > Sourav Chowdhury < souravc108> >> > > >> > Monday, November 07, 2005 2:53 AM> >> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji> >> >> >> > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> >> > Dear Rafal,> >> > namaskar. I feel you are incensed. There was really no bad> > intention, hence I assure you that you may not take up a defensive > position.> >> > Thanks for pointing out that you were discussing on navamsa only and not> > rasi. You should know that people do make such mistakes. I apologize for> > this mistake. > >> > Being a fellow student, "please" is not necessary. If you deem it> necessary> > I will use "please" but with this attitude you will perhaps curtail your> > ability to learn from your fellow students and/or help them to learn from > > you. Again my opinion, and you may disagree.> >> > Everyone one of us sees the world in the specific way we> > unconsciously/consciously want to. Visti-ji and I had a discussion before > > about this (w.r.t A3 placement).> >> > Best regards,> >> > Sourav> >> > =================================================> > --- In , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@w...> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sourav,> > > Comments below.> > > Regards> > > Rafal Gendarz > > >> > > -> > > Sourav Chowdhury> > > To: > > > Sunday, November 06, 2005 3:40 PM> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji> > >> > >> > > || Hare Rama Krishna || > > >> > > Dear Rafal,> > >> > > Namaskar. Comments below.> > >> > > Best wishes,> > >> > > Sourav> > >> > > ================================================> > > --- In , "Rafal Gendarz" starsuponme@w...> > wrote:> > > >> > > > II Hare Rama Krsna II> > > > Dear Sourav,> > > >> > > > In Navamsa You can treat seventh lord as Lagna. > > >> > > [sourav]: First of all, were your comments (for 8L in 7H etc) for> Navamsa> > or Rasi. I thought it is for rasi.> > >> > >> > >> > > [Rafal] Therefore You are to quick to comment.> > >> > > It was Navamsa.> > >> > >> > >> > > 7H shows relationships of all sorts (2H shows family, 11H shows > friends).> > In Navamsa, 7H in the house of relationship in the field of dharma (which> > includes marriage as marriage is part of dharma). A7 indicates the> persons> > with whom the native has those relationships and it very general in > nature.> > Hence, to see the wife in particular, use Upapada as the lagna of the> spouse> > and derive the results. Read Upa Pada chapter in BPHS. and article 10.2> in> > Visti-ji's book. > > >> > > [Rafal]> > >> > > I dont use Arudha's in Navamsa per my Guruji teachings.> > >> > > You dont have position to advise me what to read without "please". > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > >> > > > -> > > > Sourav Chowdhury> > > > > > > > Sunday, November 06, 2005 2:23 AM> > > > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: About Navamsa--Rafal ji > > > >> > > >> > > > || Hare Rama Krishna ||> > > >> > > > Dear Rafal,> > > >> > > >> > > > > 8L in 7H > > > > >> > > > > a) if benefic it can be good for sustanance of marriage> > > > >> > > > > b) spouse has help and availabilities / resources comming from > > > > > community or family> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Why ?> > > >> > > > 8H has quite evil significances except a few viz. longivity etc. 8L > has> > the potential and responsibility to creat obstacles and gives shocks.> While> > malefic 8L in 7H can create all sorts of problems in the worst way,> benefic> > 8L still gives difficulties nonetheless, perhaps in a bit gentle manner. > If> > 8L is benefic and in 7H, and receives malefic aspects there, evils to> > marraige/relationships cannot be ruled out.> > > >> > > > While I reiterate that 8L in 7H should be viewed in background of > rasi> > occupation and other aspects of the chart, 8L in 7H can give breaks in> > marraige (making way for a second wife) and downfall in business (7H ).> > > >> > > > Parasara gives specific effects of grahas in the 7H. You can use that > > too along with the 8L-in-7H fact.> > > >> > > > The only good thing can be that the Native can have a long life if 8L> is> > in a kendra (BPHS). The reason is that 8L rules longivity. In that case, > A8> > will always be in the 6-12 axis.> > > >> > > > Hope I added something to this discussion.> > > >> > > > Best regards,> > > > > > > > Sourav> > > >> > > > ================================================> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that > > the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> > today> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > >> >> ----------> > --> > > > > > > > > > > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web.> > > >> > > > b.. To from this group, send an email to:> > > > > > > >> > > > c.. Your use of Groups is subject to the Terms of> Service.> >> > > >> > > > > > > >> >> ----------> > --> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that > the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading> today> >> > >> > > > > >> > >> >> ----------> > --> > > > > >> > > a.. Visit your group "" on the web. > > >> > > b.. > > > > > >> > > c.. Your use of Groups is subject to the >> > >> > >> > >> > > ----------> > --> > >> >> >> >> > ~ om tat sat ~> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today>> >> >> >> >> >> > _____> >> >> > > >> >> >> > * Visit your group "> > " on the web.> >> > * > > > > < ?subject=Un>> >> > * > > < > Terms of Service.> >> >> >> >> > _____> >>>>> ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today>>>> > >>> Visit your group "" on the web. >> To from this group, send an email to:> >> Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service.>>> >>>> > > FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click.>--ViswanadhamManagement ConsultantMONEYMATTERS+ 91 98 202 28271 FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Vedic Vedic astrology Free vedic astrology Sjc Jyotish Visit your group "" on the web. -- ViswanadhamManagement ConsultantMONEYMATTERS+ 91 98 202 28271 FareChase - Search multiple travel sites in one click. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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