Respected Visti ji and learned Members : Conditions for Celibacy

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Respected Visti ji and learned members,

 

I was reading about the conditions for celibacy in Visti ji's book.

It is mentioned that 6th lord in Trines or Quadrants is indicative

of this. This does not seem to hold good in all cases. e.g., in

Swami Vivekananda's chart the 6th lord is not in Trines. What is the

conditions to be seen for ascertaining celibacy ?

 

A relative of mine (birth details given below) has got the 6th lord

in a trine placement. Does it indicate celibacy ? So far he has not

shown any inclination towards Married life. He prefers to devote

most of his time to professional advancement.

 

Birth details

=============

 

Date Sep 21 1971

Time 22:45

Place Bombay, India

72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"

 

Thanks

[Guest guest]

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Saimohan,

Namaskar

You are

referring to the dictums in the seventh house chapter. Let me clarify.

The

principles in that chapter are not related to ‘choosing celibacy’. Instead

they are causing one to abstinate through force, i.e. obstructing physical

liasons and marriage also. i.e. if sixth lord is in the fourth house, then job

and occupation tend to obstruct marriage. I have shown a few examples of this where

the natives were put into situations which almost made them break their

marriage.

In the past

an example was given on the list of a woman who was without job, and spent all

her time at home with her mother. The parrents were wondering why she was

having a delayed marriage, and in the particular chart, the sixth lord was in

the fourth house, causing the marriage to be delayed due to being in the home

situation. In one case the sixth lord in the fourth house made the natives

mother encourage the native to be a nun.

So to be

more explicit, this principle does not make one take vows of celibacy. Instead for

this, please read the chapter on arudha lagna, and read about Venus’

placement from arudha lagna.

 

As for your

friends chart. When the sixth lord is in trines (qouting my book), the native considers

it a good thing to be a strong and independant person, and this can delay

marriage. Here the trines are the self, hence they can influence the natives

personal choices.

Its all

there in the book, i promiss to go deeper into these principles in future

releases.

 

Best

wishes,

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05 October 2005 09:48

 

[Om Krishna Guru]

Respected Visti ji and learned Members : Conditions for Celibacy

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Respected Visti ji and

learned members,

I was reading about the conditions for celibacy in

Visti ji's book.

It is mentioned that 6th lord in Trines or

Quadrants is indicative

of this. This does not seem to hold good in all

cases. e.g., in

Swami Vivekananda's chart the 6th lord is not in

Trines. What is the

conditions to be seen for ascertaining celibacy ?

A relative of mine (birth details given below) has

got the 6th lord

in a trine placement. Does it indicate celibacy ?

So far he has not

shown any inclination towards Married life. He

prefers to devote

most of his time to professional advancement.

Birth details

=============

Date Sep 21 1971

Time 22:45

Place Bombay,

India

72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"

Thanks

[Guest guest]

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Saimohan

and list, Namaskar

Correction

to my recent mail:

“

color:navy">i.e. if sixth lord is in the fourth house,”

should

read; i.e. if sixth lord is in the tenth house,

Best

wishes,

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11 October 2005 09:12

 

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Respected Visti ji and learned Members : Conditions for Celibacy

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Saimohan, Namaskar

You are

referring to the dictums in the seventh house chapter. Let me clarify.

The

principles in that chapter are not related to ‘choosing celibacy’.

Instead they are causing one to abstinate through force, i.e. obstructing

physical liasons and marriage also. i.e. if sixth lord is in the fourth house,

then job and occupation tend to obstruct marriage. I have shown a few examples

of this where the natives were put into situations which almost made them break

their marriage.

In the past

an example was given on the list of a woman who was without job, and spent all

her time at home with her mother. The parrents were wondering why she was

having a delayed marriage, and in the particular chart, the sixth lord was in

the fourth house, causing the marriage to be delayed due to being in the home

situation. In one case the sixth lord in the fourth house made the natives

mother encourage the native to be a nun.

So to be

more explicit, this principle does not make one take vows of celibacy. Instead

for this, please read the chapter on arudha lagna, and read about Venus’

placement from arudha lagna.

 

As for your

friends chart. When the sixth lord is in trines (qouting my book), the native

considers it a good thing to be a strong and independant person, and this can

delay marriage. Here the trines are the self, hence they can influence the

natives personal choices.

Its all

there in the book, i promiss to go deeper into these principles in future

releases.

 

Best

wishes,

***

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05 October 2005 09:48

 

[Om Krishna Guru]

Respected Visti ji and learned Members : Conditions for Celibacy

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Respected Visti ji and

learned members,

I was reading about the conditions for celibacy in

Visti ji's book.

It is mentioned that 6th lord in Trines or

Quadrants is indicative

of this. This does not seem to hold good in all

cases. e.g., in

Swami Vivekananda's chart the 6th lord is not in

Trines. What is the

conditions to be seen for ascertaining celibacy ?

A relative of mine (birth details given below) has

got the 6th lord

in a trine placement. Does it indicate celibacy ?

So far he has not

shown any inclination towards Married life. He

prefers to devote

most of his time to professional advancement.

Birth details

=============

Date Sep 21 1971

Time 22:45

Place Bombay,

India

72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"

Thanks

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Visti-ji,

Pranam. Thanks for the clarification or else it was

confusing me. In my Rasi chart,I see AK-dispositor/Pakehsa/6th Lord

Ke in the 10-th house in Moolatrikona Rashi and celibacy has become

valuable to me, especially with the advent of Ke Antardasha (Vim).

Infact the discussions my friends have about their would-be

marriages are very painful to me and I keep quiet as much as

possible when such discussions come up.

 

Ke happens to be the lagnesha in Shashtyamsa Chart (D-60) and is

cojoining retrograde 6th Lord (Ma) in the UL in that chart, in

Dhanur Rasi which is its exaltation.

 

Best regards,

 

Sourav

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, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Saimohan and list, Namaskar

>

> Correction to my recent mail:

>

> "i.e. if sixth lord is in the fourth house,"

>

> should read; i.e. if sixth lord is in the tenth house,

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

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>

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> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of Visti Larsen

> 11 October 2005 09:12

>

> RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Respected Visti ji and learned

Members :

> Conditions for Celibacy

>

>

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Saimohan, Namaskar

>

> You are referring to the dictums in the seventh house chapter. Let

me

> clarify.

>

> The principles in that chapter are not related to 'choosing

celibacy'.

> Instead they are causing one to abstinate through force, i.e.

obstructing

> physical liasons and marriage also. i.e. if sixth lord is in the

fourth

> house, then job and occupation tend to obstruct marriage. I have

shown a few

> examples of this where the natives were put into situations which

almost

> made them break their marriage.

>

> In the past an example was given on the list of a woman who was

without job,

> and spent all her time at home with her mother. The parrents were

wondering

> why she was having a delayed marriage, and in the particular

chart, the

> sixth lord was in the fourth house, causing the marriage to be

delayed due

> to being in the home situation. In one case the sixth lord in the

fourth

> house made the natives mother encourage the native to be a nun.

>

> So to be more explicit, this principle does not make one take vows

of

> celibacy. Instead for this, please read the chapter on arudha

lagna, and

> read about Venus' placement from arudha lagna.

>

>

>

> As for your friends chart. When the sixth lord is in trines

(qouting my

> book), the native considers it a good thing to be a strong and

independant

> person, and this can delay marriage. Here the trines are the self,

hence

> they can influence the natives personal choices.

>

> Its all there in the book, i promiss to go deeper into these

principles in

> future releases.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of saimohank90

> 05 October 2005 09:48

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Respected Visti ji and learned Members :

> Conditions for Celibacy

>

>

>

> Respected Visti ji and learned members,

>

> I was reading about the conditions for celibacy in Visti ji's

book.

> It is mentioned that 6th lord in Trines or Quadrants is indicative

> of this. This does not seem to hold good in all cases. e.g., in

> Swami Vivekananda's chart the 6th lord is not in Trines. What is

the

> conditions to be seen for ascertaining celibacy ?

>

> A relative of mine (birth details given below) has got the 6th

lord

> in a trine placement. Does it indicate celibacy ? So far he has

not

> shown any inclination towards Married life. He prefers to devote

> most of his time to professional advancement.

>

> Birth details

> =============

>

> Date Sep 21 1971

> Time 22:45

> Place Bombay, India

> 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"

>

> Thanks

>

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Hi Visti,

 

How are you?

 

How does Venus placement from arudha lagna determine the celibacy?

Could you elaborate on this.

 

Thanks and Regards,

Saraswathy

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Saimohan, Namaskar

>

> You are referring to the dictums in the seventh house chapter. Let

me

> clarify.

>

> The principles in that chapter are not related to 'choosing

celibacy'.

> Instead they are causing one to abstinate through force, i.e.

obstructing

> physical liasons and marriage also. i.e. if sixth lord is in the

fourth

> house, then job and occupation tend to obstruct marriage. I have

shown a few

> examples of this where the natives were put into situations which

almost

> made them break their marriage.

>

> In the past an example was given on the list of a woman who was

without job,

> and spent all her time at home with her mother. The parrents were

wondering

> why she was having a delayed marriage, and in the particular chart,

the

> sixth lord was in the fourth house, causing the marriage to be

delayed due

> to being in the home situation. In one case the sixth lord in the

fourth

> house made the natives mother encourage the native to be a nun.

>

> So to be more explicit, this principle does not make one take vows

of

> celibacy. Instead for this, please read the chapter on arudha

lagna, and

> read about Venus' placement from arudha lagna.

>

>

>

> As for your friends chart. When the sixth lord is in trines

(qouting my

> book), the native considers it a good thing to be a strong and

independant

> person, and this can delay marriage. Here the trines are the self,

hence

> they can influence the natives personal choices.

>

> Its all there in the book, i promiss to go deeper into these

principles in

> future releases.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of saimohank90

> 05 October 2005 09:48

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Respected Visti ji and learned Members :

> Conditions for Celibacy

>

>

>

> Respected Visti ji and learned members,

>

> I was reading about the conditions for celibacy in Visti ji's book.

> It is mentioned that 6th lord in Trines or Quadrants is indicative

> of this. This does not seem to hold good in all cases. e.g., in

> Swami Vivekananda's chart the 6th lord is not in Trines. What is

the

> conditions to be seen for ascertaining celibacy ?

>

> A relative of mine (birth details given below) has got the 6th lord

> in a trine placement. Does it indicate celibacy ? So far he has not

> shown any inclination towards Married life. He prefers to devote

> most of his time to professional advancement.

>

> Birth details

> =============

>

> Date Sep 21 1971

> Time 22:45

> Place Bombay, India

> 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"

>

> Thanks

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic

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[Guest guest]

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Saraswathy,

Namaskar

The planets

placement from arudha lagna shows how we enjoy the various elements of soceity.

This enjoyment in soceity is linked to the rajas guna, and the two rajasic

planets are; Mercury (the karaka for profession and business) and venus (the

karaka for partners and entertainment).

 

So if venus

or mercury is badly placed from the arudha lagna, these parts of life could be

lacking in enjoyment. This is why in the charts of Srila Prabhupada, Svami

Vivekananda, Srila Bhaktisiddhanta, and others who underwent celibacy, venus is

placed in the sixth house from arudha lagna.

Best

wishes,

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20 October 2005 21:01

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru]

Respected Visti ji and learned Members : Conditions for Celibacy

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Hi Visti,

How are you?

How does Venus placement from arudha lagna

determine the celibacy?

Could you elaborate on this.

Thanks and Regards,

Saraswathy

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Saimohan, Namaskar

>

> You are referring to the dictums in the

seventh house chapter. Let

me

> clarify.

>

> The principles in that chapter are not

related to 'choosing

celibacy'.

> Instead they are causing one to abstinate

through force, i.e.

obstructing

> physical liasons and marriage also. i.e. if

sixth lord is in the

fourth

> house, then job and occupation tend to

obstruct marriage. I have

shown a few

> examples of this where the natives were put

into situations which

almost

> made them break their marriage.

>

> In the past an example was given on the list

of a woman who was

without job,

> and spent all her time at home with her

mother. The parrents were

wondering

> why she was having a delayed marriage, and in

the particular chart,

the

> sixth lord was in the fourth house, causing

the marriage to be

delayed due

> to being in the home situation. In one case

the sixth lord in the

fourth

> house made the natives mother encourage the

native to be a nun.

>

> So to be more explicit, this principle does

not make one take vows

of

> celibacy. Instead for this, please read the

chapter on arudha

lagna, and

> read about Venus' placement from arudha

lagna.

>

>

>

> As for your friends chart. When the sixth

lord is in trines

(qouting my

> book), the native considers it a good thing

to be a strong and

independant

> person, and this can delay marriage. Here the

trines are the self,

hence

> they can influence the natives personal

choices.

>

> Its all there in the book, i promiss to go

deeper into these

principles in

> future releases.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> For services and articles visit:

>

> <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com or

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of saimohank90

> 05 October 2005 09:48

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Respected Visti ji

and learned Members :

> Conditions for Celibacy

>

>

>

> Respected Visti ji and learned members,

>

> I was reading about the conditions for

celibacy in Visti ji's book.

> It is mentioned that 6th lord in Trines or Quadrants

is indicative

> of this. This does not seem to hold good in

all cases. e.g., in

> Swami Vivekananda's chart the 6th lord is not

in Trines. What is

the

> conditions to be seen for ascertaining

celibacy ?

>

> A relative of mine (birth details given

below) has got the 6th lord

> in a trine placement. Does it indicate

celibacy ? So far he has not

> shown any inclination towards Married life.

He prefers to devote

> most of his time to professional advancement.

>

> Birth details

> =============

>

> Date Sep 21 1971

> Time 22:45

> Place Bombay,

India

> 72 E 50' 00", 18 N 58' 00"

>

> Thanks

>

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Vedic

> </gads?

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