Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 I am happy to see a simple and nice topic once again discussed here in this forum. This is a one of the oldest topic discussed many times in the past by many great scholars and astrologers.But I have something very interesting to say about this ofcourse partially agreeing shripalji's words. 8th house means 2nd bhava(money,family,speech and finance) to 7th(kalathra or spouse or business partner).When mars is in this bhava this adds good or bad flavour depends on the sign and aspects and conjoined planets.When mars is good then,the spouse/business partner will be wealthy and bold.They will be earning thro real estates,land or mechanical type of jobs. 8th is also hidden parts for the native.Here mars gives hot feelings and urge for high-volted sexual tendencies..The sexual power will be high and like wild animal.They have high intuition also as 8th bhava denotes occult matters. 8th bhava and mars there is not totally bad.There are many good aspects involved that has to be judged very carefully and patiently.Mars in eighth is not dosha but if it is caught in a bad position with links to malefic planets then this affects that bhava of the chart.There are many more things related to mars in eighth bhava. Hope everybody understands my words and also agree to this.For further clarifications,please send your words whatever may be to update at my end. With thanks and regards Balaji Gopalakrishnan Shripal <d_shripal > wrote: Hi Mark,Mars in eight practically seen cases are were couplefights a lot of small, small things and there isforceful act for a sex with a partner.Because offights they don't do what they have to do and end upthings in barren.Which mostly result into liason oraffairs or prostitute act.Even for girls horoscope, it represents if othermalefics are involved she will be raped. , torturedetc etc...These people frequently goes with headaches,pressure,tension etc.....Almost has all qualities fo Kuja dosa, as 8th housedeals with sexual matters, so .....--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com> wrote:> 2- All:> > I have a question, about Mars in the 8th.....> > I've heard that it's supposed to be one of the> classic kuja dosha> configurations, but un-like,> Mars in the lst, 4th, 7th or 12th,...it's the only> one that's not directly> influencing or aspecting> the 7th house....> > > So, can anyone explain why it's supposed to be so> bad for marriage?> > > I get the fact that Mars, in the 8th, negatively> aspects the 2nd, and though> the 2nd is often> described as one of the 'family' houses, still> marriage is so specifically> considered to be wrapped> up in and around the 7th house.....> > ?> > > > Mark Kincaid> > > > > "michaeltravass" <michaeltravass >> vedic astrology> Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:41:02 -0000> To: vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: To Mark Kincad: > Mars in the 8th house> clarification> > > Hi Group,> > Could someone clalirfy whether kuja dosh is exempted> when Mars> (lagna lord) is in 7th. I mean this is kuja dosha> but Mars being the> Lagna lord ...is this really a kuja dosha and do the> effects like> spouse being short lived and sickly manifest. Is> there a age beyond> which this dosha is not applicable.> > Regards,> Mike> > > > --- In vedic astrology, Rampaul> Verma> <rampaulman> wrote:> > hi nilesh> > mar in 8th indicate trouble in marriage> > so wait till at least 28 yr and try to understan> the anger and the> other partner> > see moon is cool.> > raj> > > > nilesh joshi <niljoshi27> wrote:> > Hi Mark, Ram ,Devika and others,> > > > What is the effect of having MArs in the 8th as a> kuja> > dosha?> > > > BEst Regards> > > > Nilesh> > > > > > --- Rampaul Verma <rampaulman> wrote:> > > > > hey mark it has been long talk to you> > > MY WIFE MAR IS NOT IN 12TH BUT SHE OVERSPEND AND> I> > > KEEP ON LOOKING A WAY TO BRING MORE MONEY> > > WELL RECENTLY HER RIGHT KNEE IS IN PAIN AND SHE> CANT> > > GO UOT AND SPEND BUT RESTLESS TO GET AWAY FROM> HOME> > > I AM KIND TO HER BUT THINK GOD MUST HAVE> RESTAINED> > > HER TO STOP SPENDING> > > MY MAR AND VENUS TOGETHER IN 4TH> > > HER DOB IS JAN 9 1952> > > PITTUSBURG SCORPIO RISING I THINK> > > EXALTED MOON IN 7TH HOUSE> > > SAT IN 6TH JUPITOR 5TH> > > HOW LONG SHE HAS TO BE IN PAIN I AM TIRED TO> TAKE> > > HER EVERYWHERE > > > SHE RESENT STAYING HOME TOO.> > > RAM> > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> > > There you go....> > > > > > Thanks for letting me know...> > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon>> > > Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT)> > > m.kincaid@m...> > > To Mark Kincad: Mars in the 12th> house> > > clarification> > > > > > > > > Dear Mark,> > > We exchanged emails regarding Mars in the> 12th> > > house some time ago, where I stated that I had> read> > > on one of the sites that Mars is a blessing in> the> > > 12th for Aries ascendant. I found the site> > >> > >http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004_06_30_varahamihira_archive.html> ,> > > but I remembered wrong. The site actually states> > > that "This is the only Lagna where it's great if> the> > > 2nd lord is in the 12th; this isn't the case> with> > > any other Lagna." Which means, Venus is a> blessing> > > to be in the 12th and not Mars. The chart that I> was> > > looking at, at that time has Venus and Mars in> the> > > 12th and so there was a confusion in> remembering.> > > Just wanted to clarify this with you.> > > > > > Devika.> > > > > > > > > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Dear Mark,> > > I have read on one of the sites that Mars is> a> > > blessing in the 12th house for Aries Ascendant.> Is> > > this true?> > > > > > Thanks,> > > Devika> > > > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> > > Dear Suresh:> > > > > > Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of> Mars.> > > > > > Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the> > > dramas and imbalances of the 12th house,> > > this would be fairly negative.> > > > > > Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures> of> > > money and energy, and people, do> > > to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending> too> > > much money.... suffer a lot of debt and> > > grief due to MARS here.> > > > > > Personally, I have never heard Mars described as> > > having much positive characteristics in the> 12th,> > > unless it's in either it's Own sign or Exalted.> > > > > > though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and> that> > > only contributed to her incessent need,> > > and expression to spend!> > > > > > She had all the best reasons why she had to> spend,> > > but all of them, only lead, to our greater> > > financial ruin.> > > > > > Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house,> and> > > I obviously deserved her,....> > > though I had changed my poor spending ways, from> my> > > past, due to great unhappinesses,> > > due to over spending...or under saving....> > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > > > > > Mark Kincaid> > > > > > > > > > > > ps... please include the dob info. so we can> verify> > > their chart, just in case.> > > > > > Also, there rising sign, if you know it.> > > > > > pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you> send> > > back the exact degrees of this chart...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug>> > > vedic astrology> > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT)> > > vedic astrology> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja> > > dosha and what if one has it?what are the> > > precautions to be taken?> > > > > > > > > Dear suneel ji and other members,> > > what if a person has the> > > following in his chart,> > > At lagna-sun,ven> > > 2nd house-mer> > > 3rd house-jup> > > 4th house-sat,rahu> > > 7th house-moon> > > 10th house-ket> > > 12th house-mars> > > According to you if this is taken as an example> this> > > native has kuja dosha, and it is also said that> if> > > one has mars in 12th house it is very good and> > > strong for the chart.What you have to say,> please do> > > reply.> > > with regards > > > v.suresh babu> > > > > > suneel sitaula <astrologernepal> wrote:> > > > > > DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN> NATAL> > > CHART IF MARS IS> > > OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH &> TWELVETH> > > ,THAT IS CALLED> > > KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON> HAS A> > > KUJA DOSH IN HIS> > > CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN> FEMALE> > > CHART , HE WILL BE> > > FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO> > > OCCUPIED BY SATUEN .> > > KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN> REMOVE> > > DOSH OF MARS> > > REGARDS> > > SUNEEL SITAULA > > > KATMANDU NEPAL> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:> > >> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu> > > || > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends> > > http://uk.messenger.> > > > > > Archives:> > > vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:> > >> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu> > > || > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated ===> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> __> > Send a rakhi to your brother, buy gifts and win> attractive prizes.> Log on to> http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html> > > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > > > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > > > > ........ 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Guest guest Posted August 27, 2005 Report Share Posted August 27, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Shripal, Namaskar Do you have charts of people with Mars in the eighth house where these events have happened? Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Shripal 27 August 2005 12:02 To: vedic astrology [Om Krishna Guru] 2-Mark re.... Mars in the 8th house clarification Why considered kuja dosha...? M.Kincaid 12.0pt"> Hi Mark, Mars in eight practically seen cases are were couple fights a lot of small, small things and there is forceful act for a sex with a partner.Because of fights they don't do what they have to do and end up things in barren.Which mostly result into liason or affairs or prostitute act. Even for girls horoscope, it represents if other malefics are involved she will be raped. , tortured etc etc... These people frequently goes with headaches, pressure,tension etc..... Almost has all qualities fo Kuja dosa, as 8th house deals with sexual matters, so ..... --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com> wrote: > 2- All: > > I have a question, about Mars in the 8th..... > > I've heard that it's supposed to be one of the > classic kuja dosha > configurations, but un-like, > Mars in the lst, 4th, 7th or 12th,...it's the only > one that's not directly > influencing or aspecting > the 7th house.... > > > So, can anyone explain why it's supposed to be so > bad for marriage? > > > I get the fact that Mars, in the 8th, negatively > aspects the 2nd, and though > the 2nd is often > described as one of the 'family' houses, still > marriage is so specifically > considered to be wrapped > up in and around the 7th house..... > > ? > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > "michaeltravass" <michaeltravass > > vedic astrology > Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:41:02 -0000 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: To Mark Kincad: > Mars in the 8th house > clarification > > > Hi Group, > > Could someone clalirfy whether kuja dosh is exempted > when Mars > (lagna lord) is in 7th. I mean this is kuja dosha > but Mars being the > Lagna lord ...is this really a kuja dosha and do the > effects like > spouse being short lived and sickly manifest. Is > there a age beyond > which this dosha is not applicable. > > Regards, > Mike > > > > vedic astrology, Rampaul > Verma > <rampaulman> wrote: > > hi nilesh > > mar in 8th indicate trouble in marriage > > so wait till at least 28 yr and try to understan > the anger and the > other partner > > see moon is cool. > > raj > > > > nilesh joshi <niljoshi27> wrote: > > Hi Mark, Ram ,Devika and others, > > > > What is the effect of having MArs in the 8th as a > kuja > > dosha? > > > > BEst Regards > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > --- Rampaul Verma <rampaulman> wrote: > > > > > hey mark it has been long talk to you > > > MY WIFE MAR IS NOT IN 12TH BUT SHE OVERSPEND AND > I > > > KEEP ON LOOKING A WAY TO BRING MORE MONEY > > > WELL RECENTLY HER RIGHT KNEE IS IN PAIN AND SHE > CANT > > > GO UOT AND SPEND BUT RESTLESS TO GET AWAY FROM > HOME > > > I AM KIND TO HER BUT THINK GOD MUST HAVE > RESTAINED > > > HER TO STOP SPENDING > > > MY MAR AND VENUS TOGETHER IN 4TH > > > HER DOB IS JAN 9 1952 > > > PITTUSBURG SCORPIO RISING I THINK > > > EXALTED MOON IN 7TH HOUSE > > > SAT IN 6TH JUPITOR 5TH > > > HOW LONG SHE HAS TO BE IN PAIN I AM TIRED TO > TAKE > > > HER EVERYWHERE > > > SHE RESENT STAYING HOME TOO. > > > RAM > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > > There you go.... > > > > > > Thanks for letting me know... > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> > > > Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT) > > > m.kincaid@m... > > > To Mark Kincad: Mars in the 12th > house > > > clarification > > > > > > > > > Dear Mark, > > > We exchanged emails regarding Mars in the > 12th > > > house some time ago, where I stated that I had > read > > > on one of the sites that Mars is a blessing in > the > > > 12th for Aries ascendant. I found the site > > > > > > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004_06_30_varahamihira_archive.html > , > > > but I remembered wrong. The site actually states > > > that "This is the only Lagna where it's great if > the > > > 2nd lord is in the 12th; this isn't the case > with > > > any other Lagna." Which means, Venus is a > blessing > > > to be in the 12th and not Mars. The chart that I > was > > > looking at, at that time has Venus and Mars in > the > > > 12th and so there was a confusion in > remembering. > > > Just wanted to clarify this with you. > > > > > > Devika. > > > > > > > > > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote: > > > Dear Mark, > > > I have read on one of the sites that Mars is > a > > > blessing in the 12th house for Aries Ascendant. > Is > > > this true? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Devika > > > > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Suresh: > > > > > > Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of > Mars. > > > > > > Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the > > > dramas and imbalances of the 12th house, > > > this would be fairly negative. > > > > > > Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures > of > > > money and energy, and people, do > > > to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending > too > > > much money.... suffer a lot of debt and > > > grief due to MARS here. > > > > > > Personally, I have never heard Mars described as > > > having much positive characteristics in the > 12th, > > > unless it's in either it's Own sign or Exalted. > > > > > > though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and > that > > > only contributed to her incessent need, > > > and expression to spend! > > > > > > She had all the best reasons why she had to > spend, > > > but all of them, only lead, to our greater > > > financial ruin. > > > > > > Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house, > and > > > I obviously deserved her,.... > > > though I had changed my poor spending ways, from > my > > > past, due to great unhappinesses, > > > due to over spending...or under saving.... > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > > ps... please include the dob info. so we can > verify > > > their chart, just in case. > > > > > > Also, there rising sign, if you know it. > > > > > > pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you > send > > > back the exact degrees of this chart... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug> > > > vedic astrology > > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT) > > > vedic astrology > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja > > > dosha and what if one has it?what are the > > > precautions to be taken? > > > > > > > > > Dear suneel ji and other members, > > > what if a person has the > > > following in his chart, > > > At lagna-sun,ven > > > 2nd house-mer > > > 3rd house-jup > > > 4th house-sat,rahu > > > 7th house-moon > > > 10th house-ket > > > 12th house-mars > > > According to you if this is taken as an example > this > > > native has kuja dosha, and it is also said that > if > > > one has mars in 12th house it is very good and > > > strong for the chart.What you have to say, > please do > > > reply. > > > with regards > > > v.suresh babu > > > > > > suneel sitaula <astrologernepal> wrote: > > > > > > DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN > NATAL > > > CHART IF MARS IS > > > OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH & > TWELVETH > > > ,THAT IS CALLED > > > KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON > HAS A > > > KUJA DOSH IN HIS > > > CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN > FEMALE > > > CHART , HE WILL BE > > > FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO > > > OCCUPIED BY SATUEN . > > > KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN > REMOVE > > > DOSH OF MARS > > > REGARDS > > > SUNEEL SITAULA > > > KATMANDU NEPAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu > > > || > > > > > > > > > > > > Send instant messages to your online friends > > > http://uk.messenger. > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu > > > || > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > === message truncated === > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __ > > Send a rakhi to your brother, buy gifts and win > attractive prizes. > Log on to > http://in.promos./rakhi/index.html > > > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted August 29, 2005 Report Share Posted August 29, 2005 color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Shripal and Balaji, Namaskar I’m very happy to see the mail exchanged between the two of you on this subject, and would look forward to see a detailed article written by either of you, or in cooperation; with charts showing the principles in action. Please consider this request, you are certainly qualified as it shows in your letters. Best wishes, *** 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen 10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com color:navy"> or http://astrovisti.com *** font-family:Tahoma;font-weight:bold"> [] On Behalf Of Balaji G.krishnan 27 August 2005 12:49 Re: [Om Krishna Guru] 2-Mark re.... Mars in the 8th house clarification Why considered kuja dosha...? M.Kincaid 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Dear Shripalji and all, 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">I am happy to see a simple and nice topic once again discussed here in this forum. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">This is a one of the oldest topic discussed many times in the past by many great scholars and astrologers.But I have something very interesting to say about this ofcourse partially agreeing shripalji's words. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> 8th house means 2nd bhava(money,family,speech and finance) to 7th(kalathra or spouse or business partner).When mars is in this bhava this adds good or bad flavour depends on the sign and aspects and conjoined planets.When mars is good then,the spouse/business partner will be wealthy and bold.They will be earning thro real estates,land or mechanical type of jobs. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">8th is also hidden parts for the native.Here mars gives hot feelings and urge for high-volted sexual tendencies..The sexual power will be high and like wild animal.They have high intuition also as 8th bhava denotes occult matters. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">8th bhava and mars there is not totally bad.There are many good aspects involved that has to be judged very carefully and patiently.Mars in eighth is not dosha but if it is caught in a bad position with links to malefic planets then this affects that bhava of the chart.There are many more things related to mars in eighth bhava. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">Hope everybody understands my words and also agree to this.For further clarifications,please send your words whatever may be to update at my end. 12.0pt"> 12.0pt">With thanks and regards 12.0pt">Balaji Gopalakrishnan 12.0pt"> 12.0pt"> Shripal <d_shripal > wrote: margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt"> 10.0pt">Hi Mark, Mars in eight practically seen cases are were couple fights a lot of small, small things and there is forceful act for a sex with a partner.Because of fights they don't do what they have to do and end up things in barren.Which mostly result into liason or affairs or prostitute act. Even for girls horoscope, it represents if other malefics are involved she will be raped. , tortured etc etc... These people frequently goes with headaches, pressure,tension etc..... Almost has all qualities fo Kuja dosa, as 8th house deals with sexual matters, so ..... --- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com> wrote: > 2- All: > > I have a question, about Mars in the 8th..... > > I've heard that it's supposed to be one of the > classic kuja dosha > configurations, but un-like, > Mars in the lst, 4th, 7th or 12th,...it's the only > one that's not directly > influencing or aspecting > the 7th house.... > > > So, can anyone explain why it's supposed to be so > bad for marriage? > > > I get the fact that Mars, in the 8th, negatively > aspects the 2nd, and though > the 2nd is often > described as one of the 'family' houses, still > marriage is so specifically > considered to be wrapped > up in and around the 7th house..... > > ? > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > "michaeltravass" <michaeltravass > > vedic astrology > Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:41:02 -0000 > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: To Mark Kincad: > Mars in the 8th house > clarification > > > Hi Group, > > Could someone clalirfy whether kuja dosh is exempted > when Mars > (lagna lord) is in 7th. I mean this is kuja dosha > but Mars being the > Lagna lord ...is this really a kuja dosha and do the > effects like > spouse being short lived and sickly manifest. Is > there a age beyond > which this dosha is not applicable. > > Regards, > Mike > > > > vedic astrology, Rampaul > Verma > <rampaulman> wrote: > > hi nilesh > > mar in 8th indicate trouble in marriage > > so wait till at least 28 yr and try to understan > the anger and the > other partner > > see moon is cool. > > raj > > > > nilesh joshi <niljoshi27> wrote: > > Hi Mark, Ram ,Devika and others, > > > > What is the effect of having MArs in the 8th as a > kuja > > dosha? > > > > BEst Regards > > > > Nilesh > > > > > > --- Rampaul Verma <rampaulman> wrote: > > > > > hey mark it has been long talk to you > > > MY WIFE MAR IS NOT IN 12TH BUT SHE OVERSPEND AND > I > > > KEEP ON LOOKING A WAY TO BRING MORE MONEY > > > WELL RECENTLY HER RIGHT KNEE IS IN PAIN AND SHE > CANT > > > GO UOT AND SPEND BUT RESTLESS TO GET AWAY FROM > HOME > > > I AM KIND TO HER BUT THINK GOD MUST HAVE > RESTAINED > > > HER TO STOP SPENDING > > > MY MAR AND VENUS TOGETHER IN 4TH > > > HER DOB IS JAN 9 1952 > > > PITTUSBURG SCORPIO RISING I THINK > > > EXALTED MOON IN 7TH HOUSE > > > SAT IN 6TH JUPITOR 5TH > > > HOW LONG SHE HAS TO BE IN PAIN I AM TIRED TO > TAKE > > > HER EVERYWHERE > > > SHE RESENT STAYING HOME TOO. > > > RAM > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > > There you go.... > > > > > > Thanks for letting me know... > > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> > > > Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT) > > > m.kincaid@m... > > > To Mark Kincad: Mars in the 12th > house > > > clarification > > > > > > > > > Dear Mark, > > > We exchanged emails regarding Mars in the > 12th > > > house some time ago, where I stated that I had > read > > > on one of the sites that Mars is a blessing in > the > > > 12th for Aries ascendant. I found the site > > > > > > http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004_06_30_varahamihira_archive.html > , > > > but I remembered wrong. The site actually states > > > that "This is the only Lagna where it's great if > the > > > 2nd lord is in the 12th; this isn't the case > with > > > any other Lagna." Which means, Venus is a > blessing > > > to be in the 12th and not Mars. The chart that I > was > > > looking at, at that time has Venus and Mars in > the > > > 12th and so there was a confusion in > remembering. > > > Just wanted to clarify this with you. > > > > > > Devika. > > > > > > > > > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote: > > > Dear Mark, > > > I have read on one of the sites that Mars is > a > > > blessing in the 12th house for Aries Ascendant. > Is > > > this true? > > > > > > Thanks, > > > Devika > > > > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote: > > > Dear Suresh: > > > > > > Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of > Mars. > > > > > > Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the > > > dramas and imbalances of the 12th house, > > > this would be fairly negative. > > > > > > Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures > of > > > money and energy, and people, do > > > to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending > too > > > much money.... suffer a lot of debt and > > > grief due to MARS here. > > > > > > Personally, I have never heard Mars described as > > > having much positive characteristics in the > 12th, > > > unless it's in either it's Own sign or Exalted. > > > > > > though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and > that > > > only contributed to her incessent need, > > > and expression to spend! > > > > > > She had all the best reasons why she had to > spend, > > > but all of them, only lead, to our greater > > > financial ruin. > > > > > > Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house, > and > > > I obviously deserved her,.... > > > though I had changed my poor spending ways, from > my > > > past, due to great unhappinesses, > > > due to over spending...or under saving.... > > > > > > Sincerely, > > > > > > > > > Mark Kincaid > > > > > > > > > > > > ps... please include the dob info. so we can > verify > > > their chart, just in case. > > > > > > Also, there rising sign, if you know it. > > > > > > pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you > send > > > back the exact degrees of this chart... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug> > > > vedic astrology > > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT) > > > vedic astrology > > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja > > > dosha and what if one has it?what are the > > > precautions to be taken? > > > > > > > > > Dear suneel ji and other members, > > > what if a person has the > > > following in his chart, > > > At lagna-sun,ven > > > 2nd house-mer > > > 3rd house-jup > > > 4th house-sat,rahu > > > 7th house-moon > > > 10th house-ket > > > 12th house-mars > > > According to you if this is taken as an example > this > > > native has kuja dosha, and it is also said that > if > > > one has mars in 12th house it is very good and > > > strong for the chart.What you have to say, > please do > > > reply. > > > with regards > > > v.suresh babu > > > > > > suneel sitaula <astrologernepal> wrote: > > > > > > DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN > NATAL > > > CHART IF MARS IS > > > OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH & > TWELVETH > > > ,THAT IS CALLED > > > KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON > HAS A > > > KUJA DOSH IN HIS > > > CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN > FEMALE > > > CHART , HE WILL BE > > > FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO > > > OCCUPIED BY SATUEN . > > > KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN > REMOVE > > > DOSH OF MARS > > > REGARDS > > > SUNEEL SITAULA > > > KATMANDU NEPAL > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives: > > > vedic astrology > > > > > > Group info: > > > > > > vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > > > vedic astrology- > > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 I am blessed by god to recieve a call from one of my great guru.I am thankful to you for the opportunity given to me with respect. Definitely,I will take it as a priority and do it as earlier as possible.I will take some time to collect charts and to details. My many pranams to you,Sir. with thanks Balaji GopalakrishnanVisti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: ||Hare Rama Krsna|| Dear Shripal and Balaji, Namaskar I’m very happy to see the mail exchanged between the two of you on this subject, and would look forward to see a detailed article written by either of you, or in cooperation; with charts showing the principles in action. Please consider this request, you are certainly qualified as it shows in your letters. Best wishes, *** Visti Larsen For services and articles visit: http://srigaruda.com or http://astrovisti.com *** [] On Behalf Of Balaji G.krishnan27 August 2005 12:49To: Subject: Re: [Om Krishna Guru] 2-Mark re.... Mars in the 8th house clarification Why considered kuja dosha...? M.Kincaid Dear Shripalji and all, I am happy to see a simple and nice topic once again discussed here in this forum. This is a one of the oldest topic discussed many times in the past by many great scholars and astrologers.But I have something very interesting to say about this ofcourse partially agreeing shripalji's words. 8th house means 2nd bhava(money,family,speech and finance) to 7th(kalathra or spouse or business partner).When mars is in this bhava this adds good or bad flavour depends on the sign and aspects and conjoined planets.When mars is good then,the spouse/business partner will be wealthy and bold.They will be earning thro real estates,land or mechanical type of jobs. 8th is also hidden parts for the native.Here mars gives hot feelings and urge for high-volted sexual tendencies..The sexual power will be high and like wild animal.They have high intuition also as 8th bhava denotes occult matters. 8th bhava and mars there is not totally bad.There are many good aspects involved that has to be judged very carefully and patiently.Mars in eighth is not dosha but if it is caught in a bad position with links to malefic planets then this affects that bhava of the chart.There are many more things related to mars in eighth bhava. Hope everybody understands my words and also agree to this.For further clarifications,please send your words whatever may be to update at my end. With thanks and regards Balaji Gopalakrishnan Shripal <d_shripal > wrote: Hi Mark,Mars in eight practically seen cases are were couplefights a lot of small, small things and there isforceful act for a sex with a partner.Because offights they don't do what they have to do and end upthings in barren.Which mostly result into liason oraffairs or prostitute act.Even for girls horoscope, it represents if othermalefics are involved she will be raped. , torturedetc etc...These people frequently goes with headaches,pressure,tension etc.....Almost has all qualities fo Kuja dosa, as 8th housedeals with sexual matters, so .....--- Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid (AT) mchsi (DOT) com> wrote:> 2- All:> > I have a question, about Mars in the 8th.....> > I've heard that it's supposed to be one of the> classic kuja dosha> configurations, but un-like,> Mars in the lst, 4th, 7th or 12th,...it's the only> one that's not directly> influencing or aspecting> the 7th house....> > > So, can anyone explain why it's supposed to be so> bad for marriage?> > > I get the fact that Mars, in the 8th, negatively> aspects the 2nd, and though> the 2nd is often> described as one of the 'family' houses, still> marriage is so specifically> considered to be wrapped> up in and around the 7th house.....> > ?> > > > Mark Kincaid> > > > > "michaeltravass" <michaeltravass >> vedic astrology> Thu, 25 Aug 2005 11:41:02 -0000> vedic astrology> [vedic astrology] Re: To Mark Kincad: > Mars in the 8th house> clarification> > > Hi Group,> > Could someone clalirfy whether kuja dosh is exempted> when Mars> (lagna lord) is in 7th. I mean this is kuja dosha> but Mars being the> Lagna lord ...is this really a kuja dosha and do the> effects like> spouse being short lived and sickly manifest. Is> there a age beyond> which this dosha is not applicable.> > Regards,> Mike> > > > --- In vedic astrology, Rampaul> Verma> <rampaulman> wrote:> > hi nilesh> > mar in 8th indicate trouble in marriage> > so wait till at least 28 yr and try to understan> the anger and the> other partner> > see moon is cool.> > raj> > > > nilesh joshi <niljoshi27> wrote:> > Hi Mark, Ram ,Devika and others,> > > > What is the effect of having MArs in the 8th as a> kuja> > dosha?> > > > BEst Regards> > > > Nilesh> > > > > > --- Rampaul Verma <rampaulman> wrote:> > > > > hey mark it has been long talk to you> > > MY WIFE MAR IS NOT IN 12TH BUT SHE OVERSPEND AND> I> > > KEEP ON LOOKING A WAY TO BRING MORE MONEY> > > WELL RECENTLY HER RIGHT KNEE IS IN PAIN AND SHE> CANT> > > GO UOT AND SPEND BUT RESTLESS TO GET AWAY FROM> HOME> > > I AM KIND TO HER BUT THINK GOD MUST HAVE> RESTAINED> > > HER TO STOP SPENDING> > > MY MAR AND VENUS TOGETHER IN 4TH> > > HER DOB IS JAN 9 1952 New">> > > PITTUSBURG SCORPIO RISING I THINK> > > EXALTED MOON IN 7TH HOUSE> > > SAT IN 6TH JUPITOR 5TH> > > HOW LONG SHE HAS TO BE IN PAIN I AM TIRED TO> TAKE> > > HER EVERYWHERE > > > SHE RESENT STAYING HOME TOO.> > > RAM> > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> > > There you go....> > > > > > Thanks for letting me know...> > > > > > > > > Mark > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon>> > > Fri, 12 Aug 2005 09:22:43 -0700 (PDT)> > > m.kincaid@m...> > > To Mark Kincad: Mars in the 12th> house> > > clarification> > > > > > > > > Dear Mark,> > > We exchanged emails regarding Mars in the> 12th> > > house some time ago, where I stated that I had> read> > > on one of the sites that Mars is a blessing in> the> > > 12th for Aries ascendant. I found the site> > >> > >http://varahamihira.blogspot.com/2004_06_30_varahamihira_archive.html> ,> > > but I remembered wrong. The site actually states> > > that "This is the only Lagna where it's great if> the> > > 2nd lord is in the 12th; this isn't the case> with> > > any other Lagna." Which means, Venus is a> blessing> > > to be in the 12th and not Mars. The chart that I> was> > > looking at, at that time has Venus and Mars in> the> > > 12th and so there was a confusion in> remembering.> > > Just wanted to clarify this with you.> > > > > > Devika.> > > > > > > > > Devika Dhillon <devikadhillon> wrote:> > > Dear Mark,> > > I have read on one of the sites that Mars is> a> > > blessing in the 12th house for Aries Ascendant.> Is> > > this true?> > > > > > Thanks,> > > Devika> > > > > > Mark Kincaid <m.kincaid@m...> wrote:> > > Dear Suresh:> > > > > > Mars in the 12th is one of the worst places of> Mars.> > > > > > Even if Mars, there was only indicative of the> > > dramas and imbalances of the 12th house,> > > this would be fairly negative.> > > > > > Mars in the 12th ends up being over expenditures> of> > > money and energy, and people, do> > > to being too Marish, going too fast, or spending> too> > > much money.... suffer a lot of debt and> > > grief due to MARS here.> > > > > > Personally, I have never heard Mars described as> > > having much positive characteristics in the> 12th,> > > unless it's in either it's Own sign or Exalted.> > > > > > though my x-wife had exalted Mars there, and> that> > > only contributed to her incessent need,> > > and expression to spend!> > > > > > She had all the best reasons why she had to> spend,> > > but all of them, only lead, to our greater> > > financial ruin.> > > > > > Unfortunately I had 2 planets in my 12th house,> and> > > I obviously deserved her,....> > > though I had changed my poor spending ways, from> my> > > past, due to great unhappinesses,> > > due to over spending...or under saving....> > > > > > Sincerely,> > > > > > > > > Mark Kincaid> > > > > > > > > > > > ps... please include the dob info. so we can> verify> > > their chart, just in case.> > > > > > Also, there rising sign, if you know it.> > > > > > pss.... I'll talk about precautions once you New">> send> > > back the exact degrees of this chart...> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > "v.suresh babu" <sureshbabu_27aug>> > > vedic astrology> > > Sat, 26 Mar 2005 15:49:03 +0000 (GMT)> > > vedic astrology> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: what is kuja> > > dosha and what if one has it?what are the> > > precautions to be taken?> > > > > > > > > Dear suneel ji and other members,> > > what if a person has the> > > following in his chart,> > > At lagna-sun,ven> > > 2nd house-mer> > > 3rd house-jup> > > 4th house-sat,rahu> > > 7th house-moon> > > 10th house-ket> > > 12th house-mars> > > According to you if this is taken as an example> this> > > native has kuja dosha, and it is also said that> if> > > one has mars in 12th house it is very good and> > > strong for the chart.What you have to say,> please do> > > reply.> > > with regards > > > v.suresh babu> > > > > > suneel sitaula <astrologernepal> wrote:> > > > > > DEAR FRIEND KUJA DISH MEANS DEFACT OF MARS, IN> NATAL> > > CHART IF MARS IS> > > OCCUPIED MY LAGNA FORTH SEVENTH EIGHTH &> TWELVETH> > > ,THAT IS CALLED> > > KUJA DOSH , ACCORDING TO ASTROLOGY IF A PERSON> HAS A> > > KUJA DOSH IN HIS> > > CHART HE WILL BE FATAL FOR HIS SPOUSE & IN> FEMALE> > > CHART , HE WILL BE> > > FATAL FOR HER HUSBAND , BUT IN THESE HOUSE ALSO> > > OCCUPIED BY SATUEN .> > > KUJA DOSH CANN'T AFFECT, IT MEANS SATURN CAN> REMOVE> > > DOSH OF MARS> > > REGARDS> > > SUNEEL SITAULA > > > KATMANDU NEPAL> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Archives:> > > vedic astrology> > > > > > Group info:> > >> >>vedic astrology/info.html> > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> > > vedic astrology-> > > > > > ....... 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