Guest guest Posted August 24, 2005 Report Share Posted August 24, 2005 Dear Sameer Pranaam It can't go on for very long. Now only Gurus can put some light on this. Here is some insight... Source : Jyotish Digest: Volume 3 Issue 1: Annual Issue >From Article on Nabhasa yoga... When only benefics or malefics occupy angular houses, then two kinds of Dala Yogas are formed. In Nabhasa Yogas, when the Sun is placed with benefic planets, it acts as a benefic. The Sun placed with malefics or not conjoined with any planet will act as mild malefic in Nabhasa Yogas. The Moon will always be considered as a benefic. As such Saturn, Mars and Sun (when not with benefics) are considered malefics. Moon, Mercury, Venus and Jupiter and also Sun (When with Benefics) will act as benefics. The necessary explanations are already given in this article Dala Yoga basically means that benefic and malefic planets are segregated from each other. The effect of these Yogas will be most effective when formed in Kendras from the Lagna. (i) Maala Yoga: If all the benefics occupy three angular houses, and the malefic are placed in houses other than the Kendras, Maala Yoga is formed. Effects: Maala Yoga will make the native always happy, endowed with conveyance, robes, food and other articles to enjoy life; such natives will prove to be good husbands and will be endowed with the company of females of good character. Parasara has brought out two points in this Yoga: (a) Any reference house will be strengthened and endowed with good qualities if the remaining three angular houses are occupied by benefices, whether it be the ascendant, Moon, Sun, Paaka Lagna, Lagna Pada or any other reference point or house. (b) Benefics in angular houses generate a righteous and splendorous life, free from passion and greed. Some authorities believe that the Moon is not included among the benefic planets in this Yoga. This is an erroneous view. However, the Moon may also be considered as an ascendant for this Yoga. Venus and Mercury will always be together in this Yoga. If the Moon and Jupiter occupy two angular houses, the auspiciousness of the Yoga can be judged by the readers themselves. This Yoga will be operative if the Moon is also in an angular house with benefics, otherwise the Maala Yoga may not be fully effective. The Maala Yoga will be even more effective if a benefic planet owns the sign rising in the ascendant. (ii) Bhujang (Sarpa) Yoga: If all the malefics occupy three angular houses and the benefics are placed in houses other than the angular ones, Bhujang (Sarpa) Yoga is formed. Effects: The native born in Sarpa Yoga will be a crook, cruel, endowed with self-inflicted poverty, always surrounded with miseries of all kinds, and always looking to enjoy others' food and drink. Such Yogas are rarely formed. There are only two malefics Saturn and Mars. When Saturn and Mars are in an angular position and the third angle is joined by Sun (not conjunct with Mercury or Venus), only then this yoga is formed. ( This Yoga is of a common occurrence in horoscopes and yields to adverse results if Rahu and Ketu are placed in 4 th and 10 th houses, though it may not fall in the category of Nabhas yoga ). The Sarpa yoga generates extreme passion and greed. The other features are already discussed under Maala Yoga. For full Article read the following. http://.org/jyotishdigest/Vol3%20Issue1/volume3issue1.htm Pranaam Ajay , "ajayzharotia" <zharotia@d...> wrote: > Dear Sameer > > Your Point about sun joining benific considered as benific does not > hold good as you can see in D-144 chart of the following native Sun > in kendra does not have any conjucation or aspect from benific, is > still not condisidered as malefic. And it does not show any sarpa > yoga for the D-144 chart. > > It means Sun is not included in the malific list for Sarpa yoga > calculation. > > Deatils > > Natal Chart: Native 7 > > December 25, 1968 > Time: 15:00:00 > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00" > New Delhi, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > > What do you say to this. > > > Pranaam > > Ajay , "ksvssvk" <ksvssvk> wrote: > > |JAI SRIRAM| > > Dear Samir, > > > > Only Mercury is considered benefic if it joins with > > benefics,I don't think it is for Sun and i don't think Jhora > consider > > these kind of defintions for Sarpa Yoga, for the following birth > > details Jhora shows Sarpa Yoga > > > > APR 12 2005 > > 23:30:42 > > Place:New Delhi India > > > > Thanks, > > S.Venkatesh > > > > , Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...> > > wrote: > > > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > Dear Ajay, Namaskar > > > > > > Three points: > > > > > > 1. I'm pretty sure that with the Nabhasa Yogas we don't use the > > > functional nature of planets. By definition, Sarpa Yoga is > formed > > > when three kendras are occupied by naisargika krura grahas (nodes > > included). > > > > > > 2. You'll find that in other cases, Jagannath Hora lists Sarpa > Yoga > > > even if it is broken by benefics. > > > > > > 3. As to why there is no Sarpa Yoga in the chart posted by > > > Venkatesh, I've had a think about it and it struck me that for > the > > > purposes of Nabhasa Yogas, the Sun is not considered a malefic > when > > > joined benefics. In this case the Sun is joined Mercury and > > > Jupiter. So Jagannatha Hora is indeed correct! There is no > Sarpa > > > Yoga in the chart. > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 10:17 24/08/2005, you wrote: > > > >Dear Samir, > > > > > > > >Let me apply some logic here. > > > > > > > >According to BPHS > > > > > > > >Chapter 36-- Natural Benefic do not give auspicious effect when > they > > > >are lord of angle. And natural malefic in that position do not > give > > > >auspicious result, while lord of trine whether benefic or malefic > > > >always give auspicious result. > > > > > > > >Now the point is lord of Ascendant always give good result as > > > >ascendant is both an angle and trine. Be it benefic are malefic. > For > > > >example In Gemini and Virgo ascendant, Mercury being lord of 4th > and > > > >10th respectively become lord of angle, but he does not lose his > > > >benefic nature. But in both these ascendants Jupiter will be > lord of > > > >two angle house and he will lose its benefic aspect considered > to be > > > >infected with Kendradhipati Dosa. > > > > > > > >So here we can see ascendant plays and important role. In the > Same > > > >manner for given data > > > > > > > >October 23,2005 > > > >13:56:18 > > > >5:30 East > > > >Place: New Delhi India > > > > > > > >You can notice that Capricorn is rising in the ascendant. For > > > >Capricorn, Mars, Jupiter and the moon are malefic, while Venus > and > > > >Mercury are benefic. Saturn himself will not be a killer. Saturn > > > >though the lord of killing house the 2nd one, he is free form > > > >disposition of killer as he is ascendant lord. > > > > > > > >Sun also does not get the defect of being 8th lord. He will act > for > > > >the Capricorn ascendant in the same manner as the moon does for > > > >Sagittarius ascendant. > > > > > > > >Only Mars in this case is the malefic of first order. And Jupiter > > > >become inauspicious being lord of 3rd house > > > > > > > >Mercury in this ascendant has his mooltrikona sign in the ninth > house > > > >therefore he will give effect of ninth house. He might give some > > > >obstacle in the beginning of his dasa and anterdasa. > > > > > > > >So it breaks the Sarpa yoga. > > > > > > > >I request Gurudev to put some light on this. > > > > > > > > > > > >Pranaam > > > > > > > > > > > >For further ref: Read Chapter 36 BPHS in detail. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >, Samir Shah > <solaris.smoke@g...> > > > >wrote: > > > > > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > > > > > > > > > Dear Venkatesh, Namaskar > > > > > > > > > > That's weird - it should do. Perhaps it's a little bug in the > > > >software. > > > > > > > > > > Is anything special due to happen at this time/date/place? > > > > > > > > > > Best wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Samir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 21:37 23/08/2005, you wrote: > > > > > >|JAI SRIRAM| > > > > > >Dear Jyotisa, > > > > > > > > > > > >Can anybody knows why Jhora doesn't show Sarpa Yoga for the > > > >following > > > > > >details(Jhora support BPHS and this date of birth has > malefics > > > >three > > > > > >kendras namely Mars,Saturn and Sun). > > > > > >October 23,2005 > > > > > >13:56:18 > > > > > >5:30 East > > > > > >Place:New Delhi India > > > > > > > > > > > >Thanks, > > > > > >S.Venkatesh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >__ > > > > > >Start your day with - make it your home page > > > > > >http://www./r/hs > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > > > > > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > > > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama > Krishna' > > > > > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who > said > > > > > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for > animals. > > > > > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > > >reading today > > > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >~ om tat sat ~ > > > >Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > > > >Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna' > > > >(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said > > > >that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals. > > > >(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart > > reading today > > > > Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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