Jupiter----one sign before debilated and in next nearly exalted..

[Guest guest]

dear Sanjay Rath sir,

 

i need to ask u one question tht. as u have told in one of ur lecture

tht guru in aquarious is nearly exalted ...but just one sign before its

debilated. Why this is so

 

kindly clear my confusion.

 

thanks

 

tarun

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Tarun, Namaskar

This article might help:

http://srath.com/lectures/jup_aq.htm

Best wishes,

Samir

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Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:21:09 -0000

"~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst >

Jupiter----one sign before debilated and in next nearly

exalted..

dear Sanjay Rath sir,

i need to ask u one question tht. as u have told in one of ur lecture

tht guru in aquarious is nearly exalted ...but just one sign before its

debilated. Why this is so

kindly clear my confusion.

thanks

tarun

[Guest guest]

Dear Samir ji,

 

thats the same article even i m asking ...that y just in a 30 deg

change of sign we are getting jupiter's different faces.

 

thanks

 

tarun.

 

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Tarun, Namaskar

>

> This article might help: http://srath.com/lectures/jup_aq.htm

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

>

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> >

> >Message: 21

> > Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:21:09 -0000

> > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> >Jupiter----one sign before debilated and in next nearly

exalted..

> >

> >dear Sanjay Rath sir,

> >

> >i need to ask u one question tht. as u have told in one of ur

lecture

> >tht guru in aquarious is nearly exalted ...but just one sign

before its

> >debilated. Why this is so

> >

> >kindly clear my confusion.

> >

> >thanks

> >

> >tarun

[Guest guest]

Dear Samir ji,

 

i posted mail frm my another id but it doesnt reach the forum..may be

due to moderator block of all new ids,

 

Well actually i read the same article and then the questuin arised in

my mind..that in just 30 deg diff of change of sign frm capricorn to

aqua...the jupiter is said to be exalted.

 

i m not able to interpretate the same thing. Even if we see that if

for sagg lagna the jupiter in aquarious will be in 3rd frm it. and

12th frm the own house of Meena.

Thats the reason i asked

Thanks

TArun

 

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Tarun, Namaskar

>

> This article might help: http://srath.com/lectures/jup_aq.htm

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

>

>___________________

___

> >

> >Message: 21

> > Thu, 30 Jun 2005 10:21:09 -0000

> > "~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst>

> >Jupiter----one sign before debilated and in next nearly

exalted..

> >

> >dear Sanjay Rath sir,

> >

> >i need to ask u one question tht. as u have told in one of ur

lecture

> >tht guru in aquarious is nearly exalted ...but just one sign

before its

> >debilated. Why this is so

> >

> >kindly clear my confusion.

> >

> >thanks

> >

> >tarun

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Rama Krsna ||

Dear Tarun, Namaskar

I guess it just goes to show that the boundaries between Rasi's are not

fluid. There is a basis for the order of the Rasis, starting from

Aries, that can be related to man's spiritual development. Maybe

contemplation along these lines will help understanding.

Best wishes,

Samir

At 23:43 13/07/2005, you wrote:

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Tue, 12 Jul 2005 10:02:01 -0000

"~ Tarun ~" <tarun_vst >

 

Dear Samir ji,

thats the same article even i m asking ...that y just in a 30 deg

change of sign we are getting jupiter's different faces.

thanks

tarun

[Guest guest]

Dear Samir ji,

 

Actally the main prob is that since the natural zodiac is of 360 and

its divided in 12 segments..may be due to something.i dont the reason

for dividing it in 12 parts too..

 

but it is said that as the planet is exalted in one particular raashi

it is actually shining most and spreading its reflection. and vice

versa. That means in cancer it is shinging most and in capricorn its

not shining that much..

According to Daivajna Vallabh:-

(((Planetary States: Diptha (shining), Dina (miserable), Swastha

(comfortable), Muditha (happy), Suptha (sleeping), Prapiditha

(troubled), Mushita (robbed), Parihiyamanavirya (with power

declining), Pravriddhavirya (with increased vigour), and Adhivirya

(endowed with extreme power) are the ten planetary states:

 

1. When the planet is placed in its exaltation sign is called Diptha.

 

2. When it is in its debilitation sign, it is called Dina.

 

3. In its own sign, the planet is termed Swastha.

 

4. In a friendly sign, it is called Mudhitha.

 

5. In an inimical sign, it is called Suptha.

 

6. When it is defeated in planetary war, it is termed Nipiditha.

 

7. While it is in heliocal setting, it is called Mushita.

 

8. While it is approaching its debilitation sign it is named

Parihiyamanavirya.

 

9. While it is approaching its exaltation sign it is termed

Pravriddhavirya.

 

10. The planet placed in the vargas of benefics after its rising, is

called Adhikavirya

 

)))))

 

As this terms that since jupiter is aggressive frm debilation its in

the 30deg vicinity of the Capricorn.

Being spiritual development is another thing.My main question is that

its said to be exalted is due to being in the nakshatra..

 

i also have list of nakshatra in both rashis.

In Capricorn its in nakshata of Sun and then moon and then in Mars,

where as in aquarious its in nakshatra of Mars and then rahu and then

in nakshtra of jupiter.

I hope u can spread somelight over this.As Jyotish is a science in

itself and thus i m asking for the scientific aspect.

Thanks

 

Regards

 

Tarun

 

 

 

, Samir Shah <solaris.smoke@g...>

wrote:

> || Hare Rama Krsna ||

>

> Dear Tarun, Namaskar

>

> I guess it just goes to show that the boundaries between Rasi's are

not

> fluid. There is a basis for the order of the Rasis, starting from

Aries,

> that can be related to man's spiritual development. Maybe

contemplation

> along these lines will help understanding.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> Samir

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Dear Tarun,

 

If I may add something... According to what you are

asking the Sun is in Aries *shining* and then moving

into Taurus and suddenly *sleeping*, and same with

Venus moving from Pisces to Aries. So how is it

different that Jupiter can go from *miserable* in

Capricorn to *shining* in Aquarius? Are these not

scientifically possible shifts in emotions? Just as

children having a lot of joy one moment before an

accident can come to tears in the next. Rahu also

gets exaltation, but it is hard to imagine Rahu

shining. Also, the nakshatra rulerships that you

mention are Vimshottari lordships, and I do not know

whether they can be used to assess exaltation,

debilitation etc.

In Visti's new book there is a similar list of

Avasthas that follows:

Dipta-excited-exalted;

Svastha-confident-own sign;

Pramudita-glad-friendliest sign;

Santa-at peace-friendly sign;

Dina-timid-neutral;

Duhkita-distressed-enemy;

Vikala-agitated-joined an inimaical graha;

Khala-shaking-debilitation;

Kopa-enraged-combustion;

Now the way to apply this is that a person in one of

these states will experience the results of the

planets that are in the same state. For example, when

a person is distressed they will get the results of

planets placed in enemies signs. Maybe this helps.

 

Respectfully,

Michal.

 

Om Namo Narayanaya

 

--- Tarun <lovable_sue wrote:

 

> Dear Samir ji,

>

> Actally the main prob is that since the natural

> zodiac is of 360 and

> its divided in 12 segments..may be due to

> something.i dont the reason

> for dividing it in 12 parts too..

>

> but it is said that as the planet is exalted in one

> particular raashi

> it is actually shining most and spreading its

> reflection. and vice

> versa. That means in cancer it is shinging most and

> in capricorn its

> not shining that much..

> According to Daivajna Vallabh:-

> (((Planetary States: Diptha (shining), Dina

> (miserable), Swastha

> (comfortable), Muditha (happy), Suptha (sleeping),

> Prapiditha

> (troubled), Mushita (robbed), Parihiyamanavirya

> (with power

> declining), Pravriddhavirya (with increased vigour),

> and Adhivirya

> (endowed with extreme power) are the ten planetary

> states:

>

> 1. When the planet is placed in its exaltation sign

> is called Diptha.

>

> 2. When it is in its debilitation sign, it is called

> Dina.

>

> 3. In its own sign, the planet is termed Swastha.

>

> 4. In a friendly sign, it is called Mudhitha.

>

> 5. In an inimical sign, it is called Suptha.

>

> 6. When it is defeated in planetary war, it is

> termed Nipiditha.

>

> 7. While it is in heliocal setting, it is called

> Mushita.

>

> 8. While it is approaching its debilitation sign it

> is named

> Parihiyamanavirya.

>

> 9. While it is approaching its exaltation sign it is

> termed

> Pravriddhavirya.

>

> 10. The planet placed in the vargas of benefics

> after its rising, is

> called Adhikavirya

>

> )))))

>

> As this terms that since jupiter is aggressive frm

> debilation its in

> the 30deg vicinity of the Capricorn.

> Being spiritual development is another thing.My main

> question is that

> its said to be exalted is due to being in the

> nakshatra..

>

> i also have list of nakshatra in both rashis.

> In Capricorn its in nakshata of Sun and then moon

> and then in Mars,

> where as in aquarious its in nakshatra of Mars and

> then rahu and then

> in nakshtra of jupiter.

> I hope u can spread somelight over this.As Jyotish

> is a science in

> itself and thus i m asking for the scientific

> aspect.

> Thanks

>

> Regards

>

> Tarun

>

>

>

> , Samir Shah

> <solaris.smoke@g...>

> wrote:

> > || Hare Rama Krsna ||

> >

> > Dear Tarun, Namaskar

> >

> > I guess it just goes to show that the boundaries

> between Rasi's are

> not

> > fluid. There is a basis for the order of the

> Rasis, starting from

> Aries,

> > that can be related to man's spiritual

> development. Maybe

> contemplation

> > along these lines will help understanding.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > Samir

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Friends, Namaskar

 

i think Sanjay Ji said this before. Jupiter's exaltation in Aquarius

is akin to the devaguru Brihaspati, teaching dharma sastra to Sani.

So, that is an exception, when Jupiter was actually exalted, instead

of getting debilitated in association with Sani maharaj!

 

It is also said that Jup + San combination (in any sign) results in

debilitation of Jup over a period of time -slowly- at the same time

gives rise to Brahma yoga. Aquarius is the sign of Philosophers, is it

not?

 

So each sign has a story to tell. The distance from

Exaltation/debiitation points determine the Uccha bala (one of the

shad balas) and is used in a different way.

 

regards

Surya Viswanadham

 

On 7/14/05, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Dear Tarun,

>

> If I may add something... According to what you are

> asking the Sun is in Aries *shining* and then moving

> into Taurus and suddenly *sleeping*, and same with

> Venus moving from Pisces to Aries. So how is it

> different that Jupiter can go from *miserable* in

> Capricorn to *shining* in Aquarius? Are these not

> scientifically possible shifts in emotions? Just as

> children having a lot of joy one moment before an

> accident can come to tears in the next. Rahu also

> gets exaltation, but it is hard to imagine Rahu

> shining. Also, the nakshatra rulerships that you

> mention are Vimshottari lordships, and I do not know

> whether they can be used to assess exaltation,

> debilitation etc.

> In Visti's new book there is a similar list of

> Avasthas that follows:

> Dipta-excited-exalted;

> Svastha-confident-own sign;

> Pramudita-glad-friendliest sign;

> Santa-at peace-friendly sign;

> Dina-timid-neutral;

> Duhkita-distressed-enemy;

> Vikala-agitated-joined an inimaical graha;

> Khala-shaking-debilitation;

> Kopa-enraged-combustion;

> Now the way to apply this is that a person in one of

> these states will experience the results of the

> planets that are in the same state. For example, when

> a person is distressed they will get the results of

> planets placed in enemies signs. Maybe this helps.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal.

>