16#----illicit relationships---role of 12th jupiter, asp

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Hi Mukesh,

 

If you don't mind What's her Name fo my record.

I think you are confused,I told I doubt about chaste

and you are refeering "> now there is no such activity

tobe chast".So I guess she is chaste,which makes more

sense.

 

As chart is of Woman.seeing Trisamsa she is chaste and

will remain forever and not binding into illicit

relationship.I guess she is going to be tortued from

her Husband for sexual gratification.Her Marital Life

will have strain.

 

--- MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us wrote:

 

> hi,

> first of all person is female not male. however

> right

> now there is no such activity tobe chast. but i want

> you to predict if in futre she can have iliicit

> relationship or not.

>

> regards

> mukesh anand

>

> --- Shripal <d_shripal wrote:

>

> > Hi Mukesh,

> >

> > A individual has Jupiter + Ketu in Aries in 11th

> > house.

> > A family oreinted person who might have spiritual

> > inclination,He is not sanyasi or yogi,But yes does

> > go

> > to religious places and do religious activities in

> > his

> > day to day Life.In Business he is of loose

> morals,he

> > should be living away from his home and

> > parents.However 11th lord is debiliated,does he

> has

> > more girls as friend and strain in relationship

> with

> > them.

> >

> > I cannot just predict on basis of jupiter,So

> > reflecting various aspect.Venus in 12th with Mer

> > and

> > Sun is creating a doubt about him be a chaste.As

> mre

> > dasa has started he will definately a flirt

> > too.Please

> > verify....

> >

> > --- MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us wrote:

> >

> > > namaskar shripal,

> > > can u just let me know how is jupitor postion

> with

> > > respect to this discussion in the follwing

> chart.

> > > 23.may.1976

> > > 07.22 am

> > > delhi

> > >

> > > regards

> > > mukesh anand

> > >

> > > --- Shripal <d_shripal wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi Bharat and All,

> > > >

> > > > Adding to my previous point and you have

> > explained

> > > > it

> > > > very well about Love,when jupiter creates any

> > kind

> > > > of

> > > > relationship with other women than your

> > Wife,even

> > > if

> > > > she is married or prostitute etc etc.

> > > >

> > > > Here you have to minutely observe a chart,A

> rahu

> > > or

> > > > Mars or afflicted Venus roles must have plaed

> > > during

> > > > transit.which means person is very spiritual

> or

> > > > principled or ethically of high grade and

> > > indulging

> > > > in

> > > > any such activities,mostly due to transit

> > Jupiter

> > > > weakening and Rahu,Mars or afflicted Venus

> > effects

> > > > strengthing and that person gets involved with

> > > > something like that.But as I said Jupiter will

> > > > protect

> > > > and he will even keep such a realtionship

> > > throughout

> > > > Life may be just as Friend or relationship or

> > mind

> > > > and

> > > > soul(will like to talk or spent sometime,may

> not

> > > be

> > > > too phyical).so that person or relationship

> > create

> > > > because of jupiter will wtill be divine.Not to

> > > foget

> > > > Jupiter should be strong placement + sign

> > > wise,else

> > > > he

> > > > will be deceiver,loose morals etc etc.

> > > >

> > > > There are such peoples in these world too,who

> > has

> > > > fall

> > > > in such relationship,will always be together

> may

> > > not

> > > > be physical but mind and soul experience

> > wise.that

> > > > is

> > > > more stronger than physical or lust of todays

> > > world

> > > > who trying to be professional from sexual to

> > > > business.

> > > >

> > > > Concluding all relationship made by Good

> jupiter

> > > is

> > > > of

> > > > Good morals,spiritual,mind and soul exp.As

> > Jupiter

> > > > signifies spiritualism,so that tint will

> always

> > be

> > > > observable in such relationship.

> > > >

> > > > Same will be for Venus.Even exalted Venus make

> > > > indulge

> > > > in many people,but I guess they are trying for

> > > > something deeper than physical and that is a

> > > reason

> > > > that go through what that have to and time

> also

> > > > comes

> > > > when they leave everything.Even Rahu in Taurus

> > > > signifies same thing moe of mind and soul

> > > > relationship

> > > > than physical at all.Such people are more

> prone

> > > > towards Kundalini act and to crack unknown

> myths

> > > of

> > > > these world has.

> > > >

> > > > Most of charts,even for models,actress or

> anyone

> > > > from

> > > > film industry,you will find there planets are

> > > mostly

> > > > debiliated or Venus aflicted by Mars,Saturn or

> > > Rahu

> > > > or

> > > > even weaker Moon.They believe more in

> acheiving

> > > > materialistic values and body rather than

> being

> > > > spiritual.There spiritualism is also for

> > material

> > > > benefits.If anyone has such examples I would

> > like

> > > to

> > > > comment on that....

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > --- bharateiya <bharateiya wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Namaskaar Shripal

> > > > >

> > > > > That is why I said, you have to view these

> > > > > combinations in view of

> > > > > other placements and combinations.

> > > > >

> > > > > Any relationship borne out of pure love

> > > (complete

> > > > > identification as in

> > > > > case of Krishna) cannot be illicit. I

> usually

> > > > > refrain from using such

> > > > > words like illicit or "prostitute", etc. I

> am

> > > sure

> > > > > you know the reason

> > > > > why. However, since it was being used in

> the

> > > > > discussion, it was to

> > > > > pick up the same word.

> > > > >

> > > > > To further explain what you have pointed out

> > for

> > > > the

> > > > > group:

> > > > > Love is defined as identification:

> > > > > At a physical level - no identification is

> > > > possible

> > > > > and only lust can

> > > > > exist.

> > > > > At the level of mind - some emotional

> > > > identification

> > > > > is possible and

> > > > > love can exist but can rapidly change.

> > > > > At the level of intelligence - ideas and

> > values

> > > > > identification can

> > > > > happen and love is much stronger. In some

> > cases,

> > > > > this too love too can

> > > > > break.

> > > > > Complete identification is possible through

> > > > > Realization of Onlyness.

> > > > > This is love unrelated to time, mind,

> values,

> > > > > intelligence, etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Physical expression may or may not accompany

> > all

> > > > of

> > > > > the above. In some

> > > > > cases, it is forced. In some cases, it is

> > > natural.

> > > > > In other cases,

> > > > > despite desires for the same, yet the

> physical

> > > > > expression is decided

> > > > > against or a suitable environment is not

> > given.

> > > > One

> > > > > cannot call all

> > > > > physical expression as illicit.

> > > > >

> > > > > To have a forced physical expression with

> your

> > > > wife

> > > > > when she is not

> > > > > interested or ready, or to use her

> physically

> > > > > without loving her, is

> > > > > also the nature of illicit relationship. It

> is

> >

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>

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This Illicit Relationship discussion is goin

hay-wire, because if you look at any chart with an angle of how this

person can be illicit, somewhere or the other this might show.

I think people whoever are analyzing, illicit

relationship should want to know who this person and what is the

relationship to the person asking, because, just by telling that the

person would be unchaste would start tension in the relationship and

what if the person asking is spouse in question??

Bad KARMA. I don't know I felt like telling, PLEASE

USE DISCRETION in answering the illicit relationship case.

THanks

AnenddOn 7/5/05, Shripal <d_shripal > wrote:

Hi Mukesh,If you don't mind What's her Name fo my record.I think you are

confused,I told I doubt about chasteand you are refeering "> now there is no

such activitytobe chast".So I guess she is chaste,which makes more

sense.As chart is of Woman.seeing Trisamsa she is chaste andwill remain forever

and not binding into illicitrelationship.I guess she is going to be tortued

fromher Husband for sexual gratification.Her

Marital Lifewill have strain.--- MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us > wrote:>

hi,> first of all person is female not male. however> right

> now there is no such activity tobe chast. but i want> you to predict if in

futre she can have iliicit> relationship or not.>> regards> mukesh anand>> ---

Shripal <

d_shripal > wrote:>> > Hi Mukesh,> >> > A individual has Jupiter + Ketu

in Aries in 11th> > house.> > A family oreinted person who might have spiritual

> > inclination,He is not sanyasi or yogi,But yes does> > go> > to religious

places and do religious activities in> > his> > day to day Life.In

Business he is of loose> morals,he> > should be living away from his home and> >

parents.However 11th lord is debiliated,does he> has> > more girls as friend and

strain in relationship

> with> > them.> >> > I cannot just predict on basis of jupiter,So> > reflecting

various aspect.Venus in 12th with Mer> > and> > Sun is creating a doubt about

him be a chaste.As> mre> > dasa has started he will definately a flirt> >

too.Please> > verify....> >> > --- MUKESH ANAND <

mukesha_us > wrote:> >> > > namaskar shripal,> > > can u just let me

know how is jupitor postion> with> > > respect to this discussion in the

follwing

> chart.> > > 23.may.1976> > > 07.22 am> > > delhi> > >> > > regards> > > mukesh

anand> > >> > > --- Shripal <

d_shripal > wrote:> > >> > > > Hi Bharat and All,> > > >> > > > Adding

to my previous point and you have

> > explained> > > > it> > > > very well about Love,when jupiter creates any> >

kind> > > > of> > > > relationship with other women than your

> > Wife,even> > > if> > > > she is married or prostitute etc etc.> > > >> > > >

Here you have to minutely observe a chart,A> rahu> > > or

> > > > Mars or afflicted Venus roles must have plaed> > > during> > > >

transit.which means person is very spiritual> or> > > > principled or ethically

of high grade and

> > > indulging> > > > in> > > > any such activities,mostly due to transit> >

Jupiter> > > > weakening and Rahu,Mars or afflicted Venus> > effects

> > > > strengthing and that person gets involved with> > > > something like

that.But as I said Jupiter will> > > > protect> > > > and he will even keep

such a realtionship

> > > throughout> > > > Life may be just as Friend or relationship or> > mind> >

> > and> > > > soul(will like to talk or spent sometime,may> not

> > > be> > > > too phyical).so that person or relationship> > create> > > >

because of jupiter will wtill be divine.Not to> > > foget> > > > Jupiter should

be strong placement + sign

> > > wise,else> > > > he> > > > will be deceiver,loose morals etc etc.> > > >>

> > > There are such peoples in these world too,who> > has

> > > > fall> > > > in such relationship,will always be together> may> > > not>

> > > be physical but mind and soul experience> > wise.that

> > > > is> > > > more stronger than physical or lust of todays> > > world> > >

> who trying to be professional from sexual to> > > > business.> > > >

> > > > Concluding all relationship made by Good> jupiter> > > is> > > > of> > >

> Good morals,spiritual,mind and soul exp.As

> > Jupiter> > > > signifies spiritualism,so that tint will> always> > be> > > >

observable in such relationship.> > > >> > > > Same will be for Venus.Even

exalted Venus make> > > > indulge> > > > in many people,but I guess they are

trying for> > > > something deeper than physical and that is a> > > reason

> > > > that go through what that have to and time> also> > > > comes> > > >

when they leave everything.Even Rahu in Taurus> > > > signifies same thing moe

of mind and soul

> > > > relationship> > > > than physical at all.Such people are more> prone> >

> > towards Kundalini act and to crack unknown> myths> > > of> > > > these

world has.

> > > >> > > > Most of charts,even for models,actress or> anyone> > > > from> >

> > film industry,you will find there planets are> > > mostly

> > > > debiliated or Venus aflicted by Mars,Saturn or> > > Rahu> > > > or> > >

> even weaker Moon.They believe more in> acheiving> > > > materialistic values

and body rather than

> being> > > > spiritual.There spiritualism is also for> > material> > > >

benefits.If anyone has such examples I would> > like> > > to> > > > comment on

that....

> > > >> > > >> > > > --- bharateiya <bharateiya (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:> > > >> > >

> > Namaskaar Shripal

> > > > >> > > > > That is why I said, you have to view these> > > > >

combinations in view of> > > > > other placements and combinations.> > > > >

> > > > > Any relationship borne out of pure love> > > (complete> > > > >

identification as in> > > > > case of Krishna) cannot be illicit. I> usually

> > > > > refrain from using such> > > > > words like illicit or "prostitute",

etc. I> am> > > sure> > > > > you know the reason> > > > > why. However, since

it was being used in

> the> > > > > discussion, it was to> > > > > pick up the same word.> > > > >> >

> > > To further explain what you have pointed out> > for

> > > > the> > > > > group:> > > > > Love is defined as identification:> > > > >

At a physical level - no identification is> > > > possible

> > > > > and only lust can> > > > > exist.> > > > > At the level of mind - some

emotional> > > > identification> > > > > is possible and

> > > > > love can exist but can rapidly change.> > > > > At the level of

intelligence - ideas and> > values> > > > > identification can> > > > > happen

and love is much stronger. In some

> > cases,> > > > > this too love too can> > > > > break.> > > > > Complete

identification is possible through> > > > > Realization of Onlyness.

> > > > > This is love unrelated to time, mind,> values,> > > > > intelligence,

etc.> > > > >> > > > > Physical expression may or may not accompany

> > all> > > > of> > > > > the above. In some> > > > > cases, it is forced. In

some cases, it is> > > natural.> > > > > In other cases,

> > > > > despite desires for the same, yet the> physical> > > > > expression is

decided> > > > > against or a suitable environment is not> > given.

> > > > One> > > > > cannot call all> > > > > physical expression as illicit.> >

> > >> > > > > To have a forced physical expression with

> your> > > > wife> > > > > when she is not> > > > > interested or ready, or to

use her> physically> > > > > without loving her, is

> > > > > also the nature of illicit relationship. It> is> >> === message

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Hi shripal,

thanks for reply. What makes me confused is on one

hand you are saying 12th house venus allow to go for

affairs.At the same time you are saying is faithfull

and also you said she may be firt in mercury dasa.

which of these probabilty is correct. One must be

precise in prediction . If we have counted for all

these than what is the end result. this really make me

cinfused. i have asked you to clarify if she is into

affair or illict relatrionship . and you have explored

all possibilties which lead us to knowwhere. please

predicti radical. her name is monica

23-may-1976

07.22 am

delhi

 

regards

mukesh

 

 

 

 

 

 

--- Shripal <d_shripal wrote:

 

> Hi Mukesh,

>

> If you don't mind What's her Name fo my record.

> I think you are confused,I told I doubt about chaste

> and you are refeering "> now there is no such

> activity

> tobe chast".So I guess she is chaste,which makes

> more

> sense.

>

> As chart is of Woman.seeing Trisamsa she is chaste

> and

> will remain forever and not binding into illicit

> relationship.I guess she is going to be tortued from

> her Husband for sexual gratification.Her Marital

> Life

> will have strain.

>

> --- MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us wrote:

>

> > hi,

> > first of all person is female not male. however

> > right

> > now there is no such activity tobe chast. but i

> want

> > you to predict if in futre she can have iliicit

> > relationship or not.

> >

> > regards

> > mukesh anand

> >

> > --- Shripal <d_shripal wrote:

> >

> > > Hi Mukesh,

> > >

> > > A individual has Jupiter + Ketu in Aries in 11th

> > > house.

> > > A family oreinted person who might have

> spiritual

> > > inclination,He is not sanyasi or yogi,But yes

> does

> > > go

> > > to religious places and do religious activities

> in

> > > his

> > > day to day Life.In Business he is of loose

> > morals,he

> > > should be living away from his home and

> > > parents.However 11th lord is debiliated,does he

> > has

> > > more girls as friend and strain in relationship

> > with

> > > them.

> > >

> > > I cannot just predict on basis of jupiter,So

> > > reflecting various aspect.Venus in 12th with

> Mer

> > > and

> > > Sun is creating a doubt about him be a chaste.As

> > mre

> > > dasa has started he will definately a flirt

> > > too.Please

> > > verify....

> > >

> > > --- MUKESH ANAND <mukesha_us wrote:

> > >

> > > > namaskar shripal,

> > > > can u just let me know how is jupitor postion

> > with

> > > > respect to this discussion in the follwing

> > chart.

> > > > 23.may.1976

> > > > 07.22 am

> > > > delhi

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > mukesh anand

> > > >

> > > > --- Shripal <d_shripal wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Hi Bharat and All,

> > > > >

> > > > > Adding to my previous point and you have

> > > explained

> > > > > it

> > > > > very well about Love,when jupiter creates

> any

> > > kind

> > > > > of

> > > > > relationship with other women than your

> > > Wife,even

> > > > if

> > > > > she is married or prostitute etc etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > Here you have to minutely observe a chart,A

> > rahu

> > > > or

> > > > > Mars or afflicted Venus roles must have

> plaed

> > > > during

> > > > > transit.which means person is very spiritual

> > or

> > > > > principled or ethically of high grade and

> > > > indulging

> > > > > in

> > > > > any such activities,mostly due to transit

> > > Jupiter

> > > > > weakening and Rahu,Mars or afflicted Venus

> > > effects

> > > > > strengthing and that person gets involved

> with

> > > > > something like that.But as I said Jupiter

> will

> > > > > protect

> > > > > and he will even keep such a realtionship

> > > > throughout

> > > > > Life may be just as Friend or relationship

> or

> > > mind

> > > > > and

> > > > > soul(will like to talk or spent sometime,may

> > not

> > > > be

> > > > > too phyical).so that person or relationship

> > > create

> > > > > because of jupiter will wtill be divine.Not

> to

> > > > foget

> > > > > Jupiter should be strong placement + sign

> > > > wise,else

> > > > > he

> > > > > will be deceiver,loose morals etc etc.

> > > > >

> > > > > There are such peoples in these world

> too,who

> > > has

> > > > > fall

> > > > > in such relationship,will always be together

> > may

> > > > not

> > > > > be physical but mind and soul experience

> > > wise.that

> > > > > is

> > > > > more stronger than physical or lust of

> todays

> > > > world

> > > > > who trying to be professional from sexual to

> > > > > business.

> > > > >

> > > > > Concluding all relationship made by Good

> > jupiter

> > > > is

> > > > > of

> > > > > Good morals,spiritual,mind and soul exp.As

> > > Jupiter

> > > > > signifies spiritualism,so that tint will

> > always

> > > be

> > > > > observable in such relationship.

> > > > >

> > > > > Same will be for Venus.Even exalted Venus

> make

> > > > > indulge

> > > > > in many people,but I guess they are trying

> for

> > > > > something deeper than physical and that is a

> > > > reason

> > > > > that go through what that have to and time

> > also

> > > > > comes

> > > > > when they leave everything.Even Rahu in

> Taurus

> > > > > signifies same thing moe of mind and soul

> > > > > relationship

> > > > > than physical at all.Such people are more

> > prone

> > > > > towards Kundalini act and to crack unknown

> > myths

> > > > of

> > > > > these world has.

> > > > >

> > > > > Most of charts,even for models,actress or

> > anyone

> > > > > from

> > > > > film industry,you will find there planets

> are

> > > > mostly

> > > > > debiliated or Venus aflicted by Mars,Saturn

> or

> > > > Rahu

> > > > > or

> > > > > even weaker Moon.They believe more in

> > acheiving

> > > > > materialistic values and body rather than

> > being

> > > > > spiritual.There spiritualism is also for

> > > material

> > > > > benefits.If anyone has such examples I would

> > > like

> > > > to

> > > > > comment on that....

>

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