10#----illicit relationships---role of 12th jupiter, asp

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Hi Bharat,

 

I agree what ou have explained.

 

Hee I want to point out one thing,relationship is

illici if it is sexual,But even after you happen to

have someone whom you Love with your Heart,mind and

Body whcih is rarest in todays world than it is not

illicit relationship.

 

You know beter than anyone what kin of relationship

you are holding even with your Wife,Can you feel her?

Tha I would say you ar having an illicit relationship

with your Wife itself.

 

So first Learn a concept and than follow rules.Ocean

is more deper than what you think..............

 

Always remember a story of Radha Krishna,most of

doubts will clear out........

 

Concluding all relationship is illicit if

selfish,physical and any way of possessing.So more you

avoid that more your soul will be happier......

 

--- bharateiya <bharateiya wrote:

 

> Namaskaar All

>

> Jupiter does not increase the Licentious nature of

> Sexual Matters.

> Jupiter facilitates or removes obstacles to a

> particular desire

> especially if Mars is involved.

>

> Mars and Venus cause the sexual desires to overflow.

> Mars turns to

> passion especially when it is connected with Venus.

> Mars puts energy

> behind Love and wants to act. The act itself is of

> procreation. For

> the act, a suitable environment is needed. Jupiter

> can create that

> environment if placed well. The 12th house placement

> shows environment

> and not the actual act.

>

> The analysis should not end in here. Furthermore,

> Jupiter being the

> natural karaka for husband, it should protect the

> marriage. But what

> if, the girl thinks of the 2nd man as closer to

> husband material (in

> case of girl). This can happen with vipreet buddhi.

> Affliction to Moon

> and Mercury can cause this. Misplaced emotions and

> analysis.

>

> Jupiter in the 12th house also shows the house of

> giving. It may

> sacrifice the body for the pleasure of the other

> one. This ofcourse

> has to be related to other possible combinations.

>

> I think such a subject should be related in depth

> and not in a single

> or two combinations.

>

> Thanks and Regards

> Bharat

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, shyam murti

> gupta

> <smurti_gupta> wrote:

> > Respected GuruJan,

> > "Does this mean Illicit relationsships as 12H

> Jupiter gives loose

> morals"

> > "Guru's aspect on Venus and Mars in 2nd in navamsa

> increases the

> licentious nature in sexual matters."

> > I just wish to concur with Utpal ji citing my

> own case where

> Jupiter (Le) is 12th from moon (Vi) apected by

> swaxetri Venus (Ta) and

> Mars (Q) but not that short of happend so for.

> > with best regards

> > sincerely

> > shy

> >

> > Note: forwarded message attached.

> >

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> > Dear Sunil Kumarji,

> > Namaste,

> >

> > <Does this mean Illicit relationsships as 12H

> Jupiter gives loose

> morals.>

> >

> >

> > Sorry to intervene here. 12H Jupiter gives loose

> moral is a

> extremely generalise statement. It all depends upon

> strength/weakness

> of Jupiter and many other things. i am sure you

> surely know this.

> >

> > i know many people who has Ju in 12th. my very

> close friend has Ju

> in 12th in Dhanu and he is spottlessly clean in

> Character.

> >

> > "Guru's aspect on Venus and Mars in 2nd in navamsa

> increases the

> licentious nature in sexual matters."

> >

> > in my own chart, Mars, Venus & Sun are in 2nd in

> Dhanu in D9

> Aspected by Jupier who is with Ketu palced in leo.

> >

> > in my Rashi chart Mars + Venus in Lagna aspected

> strongly by Guru

> from 7th from Dhanu. I never ever went outside

> marriage line before or

> after marriage and never shall it happen.

> >

> > forgive me to flash light of caution to already a

> learned.

> >

> > best regards,

> >

> > Utpal Pathak

> >

> >

> >

> > sunilkumar varanasi <skumar_varanasi> wrote:

> > Jai Sai Ram

> >

> > Respected Members & Guru ji's/Shri PVR Ji,

> >

> > I read Jupiter in 12H in Raasi chart will give

> good sexual

> pleasure.Does this mean Illicit relationsships as

> 12H Jupiter gives

> loose morals.

> >

> > "Guru's aspect on Venus and Mars in 2nd in navamsa

> increases the

> licentious nature in sexual matters."

> >

> >

> > Also does the above sentence holds good for venus

> and mars in 2H

> from AL in Navamsa with Guru's aspect (9th vision).

> >

> > Thanks and Regards,

> >

> > Sunil Kumar Varanasi

> >

> >

> >

> > "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: Dear

> Tarun,

> >

> > Guru's aspect on Venus and Mars in 2nd in navamsa

> increases the

> licentious nature in sexual matters.

> >

> > According to Puranic stories, Brihaspati raped an

> unwilling Mamata,

> wife of Brihaspati's elder brother Utathya. The

> child born due to

> Brihaspati's moment of weakness, Kacha, was

> brilliant and he is the

> one who learnt the Mrita Sanjivini mantra from

> Sukracharya, teacher of

> demons.

> >

> > Of course, even Brihaspati had to pay for his

> karma. His own wife

> Tara fell in love with Moon and had a child with

> Moon, giving much

> grief to Brihaspati. Mercury was born to Tara as a

> result and Jupiter

> accepted him as his son later.

> >

> > So Jupiter is associated with two stories of

> immoral extra-marital

> affairs - once on the receiving end and once once on

> the other end.

> >

> > Though mythological stories help us sometimes to

> make sense of

> astrological combinations, a better way to

> appreciate those stories is

> by understanding the metaphors in them. Puranic

> stories are full of

> metaphors. I am not saying that the stories are

> unreal. They may be a

> real in a different space or a different loka.

> However, given that

> each human being is a microcosm of the entire

> universe and that

> various lokas, devas and asuras exist in each human

> being, one can see

> that various Puranic stories are re-occurring within

> each human being

> at various times, metaphorically speaking.

> >

> > For example, let us understand the metaphors in

> the above stories.

> >

> > Who is Brihaspati? As astrologers, we know that

> Jupiter shows the

> wisdom and intelligence in a person. He shows the

> dhee of a person.

> What does Mamata show? Mamata means ego-centricism,

> selfishness etc

> (mama-ta=mine-ness). In other words, Mamata of

> mythology is a metaphor

> for the selfishness within us.

> >

> > Is ego-centricism/selfishness the correct

> companion to wisdom? Of

> course not. No wonder, Mamata is not Brihaspati's

> wife. Brihaspati's

> wife is Tara. By the meaning of name, Tara stands

> for a radiant and

> brilliant protecting force that carries across. Such

> a force is the

> right companion to wisdom. While male element shows

> the existential

> potentiality, female element shows the engulfing

> energy and the actual

> manifestation. Thus, Brihaspati's manifestation is

> thru the energy of

> Tara. No wonder the purpose of wisdom, intelligence

> and dhee is to

> radiate brilliance, protect one and carry one

> across. That is how

> wisdom is supposed to manifest!

> >

> > Also no wonder Rishi DirghaTamas was Mamata's son

> thru her real

> husband Utathya. Utathya could mean certainty or

> confidence that comes

> with great learning. That confidence is born before

> wisdom (elder

> brother). When such great confidence combines with

> ego-centricism,

> excellent knowledge is born which is also blind

> forever. No wonder,

> Utathya and Mamata had a child named Dirgha Tamas

> (long darkness), who

> was very learned but blind.

> >

> > Anyway, coming back to the main story,

> ego-centricism and

> selfishness are not the correct companion to wisdom.

> But, if wisdom

> finds selfishness attractive and combines with it

> once, it is not bad

> after all. Without some selfishness, a lot of

> abilities of wisdom go

> wasted in a sense! When Brihaspati (wisdom) combined

> with

> non-cooperative selfishness (Mamata), it resulted in

> the birth of

> practically inclined brilliance (Kacha)!

> >

> > Similarly, when the mind (Moon) and the brilliant

> protecting and

> carrying force of wisdom (Tara, wife of Brihaspati)

> combine, the

> learning ability (Mercury) is produced!!! Learning

> ability (Mercury)

> of the product (son) of mind (Moon), but it is

> accepted and nurtured

> by wisdom and intelligence (Jupiter).

> >

> > As time is short, I will not speak of the

> metaphors in the story of

> Sukracharya, Kacha, Devayani, Asuras and Mrita

> Sajivini mantra.

> >

> > All this is just the tip of the iceberg. There is

> so much more to

> the Puranic stories. The metaphors in Puranic

> stories are very

> meaningful and illuminating. Sometimes, there are

> astrological links

> to the metaphors. I am not such a good scholar in

> Puranic stories.

> But, even with my limited knowledge, I see so much

> Light in those stories!

> >

> > I covered this to some extent in my first few

> Sunday classes at

> Dracut, MA, USA. MP3 audio is freely downloadable at

> the link given below.

> >

> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,

> > Narasimha

> >

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> > > hello forum members,

> > >

> > > i got this data frm a shri Rath's serbia

> website.

> > >

> > > yogas in navamsha varga

> > >

> > > There are some additional Yogas such as Bahoo

> Stree Yoga which

> were present in some of the horoscope, which is

> formed by mangal and

> shukra influence over 2nd house, while guru

> influence may enhance

> immorality, ketu lorded by Shri Ganesh can

> definitely stop it. Guru in

> trines or other chastity Yogas such as

> dharmakarmadhipaty may also

> counteract the evil influence.

> > >

> > > kindly suggest something that ...why guru is

> said to be enhancing

> immorality ..

> > >

> > > because many members have previously said that

> Guru is guru its

> totally of nice morals...

> > >

> > > thanks

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> > > tarun.

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