9#Re:Illict RelationShip............Sai

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Hi Sai,

 

Yes more cupprit is dasa,even combination are

present,But made it possible.

 

--- sai_jyotish <sai_jyotish wrote:

 

> Thanx alot.

>

> Whatever u said is 100% right but as i hav work on

> this case and

> think can there be a chance in the man's chart of

> devorce due to 7L

> venus (in navmansa) placed in 12th and jupiter

> placed in 12th in

> lagna kundli. and the same case in girls chart 2nd

> to UL is aspected

> by rahu and sat, jupiter is very weak with 12L sun

> and sat. Jupiter

> is placed in 12L and deli too in navmansa. UL lord

> venus is also with

> the rahu and aspected by sat . Does all these

> combinations indicate

> towards the marrige of both. because girls is also

> attached to him

> and i dont think due to rahu mahadasha she will be

> able to leave him.

>

> Pankaj

>

>

> vedic astrology, Shripal

> <d_shripal>

> wrote:

> > Hi,

> >

> > I Man's chart Venus and Moon seperation is just 1

> > degree,So luring himself into women is very common

> for

> > this person,is guy is of girlish nature and sweet

> > spoken.Lagna lord in 12th of scorpio.

> > In Navmasa Venus is exalted,But in 12th so sure

> > affair,aspected by Jupiter,is a religious

> > person.Opposing Mer,jealous too.A fearful person.

> >

> > A girl with whom he is indulge in affair,I don't

> see

> > her having really an affair,she is definately a

> flirt

> > and like to enjoy a life and may be just carried

> > away,But will never have a serious relationship

> > externally,Yes Venus is afflicted by Rahu so

> during

> > that period of Life she must have got carried away

> and

> > as Jupiter is debi in Navmasa,a barrier that has

> to be

> > created wasn't so,so resuled into of low moral.But

> > Venus is exalted with Saturn,so she will

> understand

> > today or tommorrow what she is doing is wrong.

> >

> > A guy is libido and will never want to break a

> > relationship.

> >

> > --- sai_jyotish <sai_jyotish> wrote:

> >

> > > Respected Astrologers

> > >

> > > In addition to research on illict relationship i

> > > wish to add a data

> > > of person and a girl. this person is having

> storng

> > > extra marital

> > > relationship apart from a excellent married life

> and

> > > good religeous

> > > wife. What do u see as his future. Same with

> that

> > > girl she too is

> > > engaged in a relationship before marrige since

> past

> > > 2 and half yrs

> > > now wish break it and want to leave setteled

> married

> > > life. Hope these

> > > data will open more points to discuss.

> > >

> > > Man :

> > > 20/09/71

> > > 13:00

> > > Latt : 22.44-N Long : 75.40-E

> > >

> > > Girl

> > > 28/09/80

> > > 05:30

> > > Latt : 24.43-N Long : 81.25-E

> > >

> > >

> > > Pankaj Upadhyay

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology, shyam

> murti

> > > gupta

> > > <smurti_gupta> wrote:

> > > > Respected Astrogurus,

> > > > I am not much versed on the subject but feel

> to

> > > put my humble

> > > observation in the Pune-Boys chart that his

> Pardara

> > > nakshtra 18 deg

> > > Shravan is fortified by Guru 23 deg and Chandra

> 13

> > > deg, covered eachh

> > > side by 5 deg and both being soumy grah causing

> > > Gajkesari yoga with

> > > 7th drasti on 7th Lord Sun in 6th with murcury -

> > > again a budhaditya

> > > yog. Lagna and 12th lord Saturn is with ketu

> in

> > > 5th house of love

> > > and passion besides offsprings - being a cold,

> slow

> > > and philosophical

> > > yuti of Sat-Ketu, he may on the contrary be

> > > otherwise ( no illicite

> > > relation).

> > > > In navamsa Venus-ketu yuti in 10th makes his

> > > activities unduly

> > > kalankit in home and work space, if I am

> guessing

> > > right.

> > > > One has to take several pros and cons of

> > > numerous intricacies in

> > > atrology before outright labelling som one

> > > characterless.

> > > > May lord jupiter shower lessing on all of

> us.

> > > > with best regards

> > > > shy

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > lakshmikary <lakshmikary> wrote:

> > > > Hare Krishna

> > > > Dear Shripal,

> > > > I wanted to add a few things.

> > > > Jupiter in 12th doesnt necessarally have

> anythign

> > > to do with

> > > illicite

> > > > relationships. It can also mean the person

> gives

> > > alot of money to

> > > > children, or is seperated from children (as in

> a

> > > divorce case)

> > > > Jupiter gives good indications as a matter of

> fact

> > > Jupiters aspect

> > > on

> > > > mercury gives , chastity. Look in navamsa

> chart,

> > > moon and merc in

> > > > trines without aspect of jupiter gives loose

> > > morals.Does he drink,

> > > > drinking loosens up peoples morals and

> principles.

> > > > Also,7th lord in 6th can give marraige to a

> > > partner that one feels

> > > > inimical to, or spouse can be sickly, i have

> > > several charts were

> > > long

> > > > marriages with this placement.

> > > > In general, Jupiter gives morality.Look and

> see if

> > > Jupiter aspects

> > > > lagna, LL, or what planets if any are in 10th

> from

> > > moon,etc

> > > > Saturn and Mars give coldness, cruelty and

> anger,

> > > frustration.

> > > > Im sorry didnt have chance to look at this

> > > specific chart.

> > > > Look at some charts of serial rapists for more

> > > detials on creeps.

> > > > Many were also cruel to animals in childhood.

> > > > Look to 2nd from UL, and 8th from UL to see

> > > results on marriages,

> > > > see how many planets are aspecting A7 for

> > > potential liasons,

> > > > be very careful in examining peoples charts in

> > > this regard,as some

> > > > people may go through a "phase" and not ever

> do it

> > > again.etc/

> > > > ALl the best ,

> > > > Lakshmi

> > > > vedic astrology,

> Shripal

> > > <d_shripal>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Jai Jinendra,

> > > > >

> > > > > I would like to add what you said,As you

> said

> > > moral

> > > > > character is down,7th lord in 6th house,does

> his

> > > > > marriage is going to break up or they will

> live

> > > > > throughout life may be for just a sake of

> > > parents or

> > > > > for nothing or for world and continue a

> > > relationship

> > > > > outside marriage.

> > > > >

> > > > > I want som more view,before i reach to any

> > > > > conclusion.In Navmasa Venus in capricon and

> Mars

> > > 8th

> > > > > aspect and Jupiter debi in 12th,even will

> make

> > > him go

> > > > > to slute or prostitutes.Above all Venus

> > > debi,Person

> > > > > doesn't know what is Love.

> > > > >

> > > > > --- skumar_varanasi <skumar_varanasi>

> > > > > wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Jai Sai Ram

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Hi

> > > > > > I will try to share my views about the

> illicit

> > > > > > relationships in a

> > > > > > male native chart.I think the jupiter in

> 12H

> > > will

> > > > > > make the native

> > > > > > dishonest and with questionalble

> character.For

> > > a

> > > > > > male i think its

> > > > > > the Venus which can give the chances of

> > > illicit

> > > > > > relationships by

> > > > > > virtue of its placement like in 8H,in

> Libra

> > > Mool

> > > > > > trikon,7L with

> > > > > > Venus,7L in 6,8,12H,2L with

> venus,conjoining

> > > of

> > > > > > malefics with venus

> > > > > > or 7L.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > The running of Dashas and anterdashas of

> venus

> > > under

> > > > > > malefics like

> > > > > > venus anterdasha in raahu dasha will give

> > > illicit

> > > > > > relationships.

> > > > > > Learned Guru's pls correct if i am wroung.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Regards,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sunil Kumar Varanasi

> > > > > >

> > > > > > vedic astrology,

> > > Shripal

> > > > > > <d_shripal>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > Jai Jinendra,

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in

> > > 12th with

> > > > > > > Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is

> > > having

> > > > > > > illicit relationship with many woman of

> age

> > > > > > greater

> > > > > > > than him,always try to lure them through

> > > > > > emotionally

> > > > > > > and spends lots of money on them

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > While on other hand there is hardly any

> > > > > > relationship

> > > > > > > with wife or speaks even sweetly,rather

> > > torcher

> > > > > > her

> > > > > > > and ask for money etc and stuff.Always

> > > demands for

> > > > > > Sex

> > > > > > > if not getting from other woman with

> whom he

> > > has

> > > > > > > relationship.Pathetic person,not ashamed

> of

> > > even

> > > > > > > saying such a things and having such a

> > > > > > > relationship.Total desperate

> person.Venus is

> > > > > > > debiliated and in Navamsa afflicted my

> Mars.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But from outwards he acts very norn=mal

> and

> > > hides

> > > > > > all

> > > > > > > his feelings,especially for girls.If we

> see

> > > his

> > > > > > AL,?It

> > > > > > > is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter

> and

> > > moon in

> > > > > > 4th

> > > > > > > makes him possible to perceive others

> that

> > > he is

> > > > > > Good

> > > > > > > and even for sexual relationship he is

> albe

> > > to

> > > > > > show he

> > > > > > > is passionate and Good lover.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > But as Lagna lord afflicted with

> Ketu,debil

> > > Venus

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > 8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all

> water

> > > when

> > > > > > > things actually comes front of those

> > > > > > specimen,actuall

> > > > > > > close entity will soon come to know he

> truth

> > > and I

> > > > > > > guess smart will take avantage of him

> and

> > > dump him

> > > > > > > down when find a better one and again he

> > > will all

> > > > > > come

> > > > > > > to his life full of grief.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > His bith data:13th August 1973

> > > > > > > Time:20.15

> > > > > > > Place:Pune,India

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I want some more thoughts on this

> chart.I

> > > know him

> > > > > > > through someone,But he doesn't know

> me.It

> > > will be

> > > > > > good

> > > > > > > specimen for a illicit relationship to

> > > judge.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > --- ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote:

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > Dear Tanvir ji,

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > sorry for jumping in..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > but wht is to be seen particularly in

> > > > > > horo...means

> > > > > > > > it is said that

> > > > > > > > jupiter even if debilated gives

> positive

> > > > > > results.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > do saturn or mars and venus....as

> > > specified in

> > > > > > > > trimsamsa.are to be

> > > > > > > > seen particularly.

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > kindly guide me

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > thanks

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > tarun..

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > --- In

> ,

> > > > > > "Tanvir"

> > > > > > > > <ultimate@s...>

> > > > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's

> aspect

> > > on

> > > > > > Lagna

> > > > > > > > cannot assure a

> > > > > > > > good character. I would say that even

> Ju's

> > > > > > presence

> > > > > > > > in lagna cannot

> > > > > > > > assure, rather it makes the matter

> MORE

> > > RISKY.

> > > > > > Ju

> > > > > > > > rules character and

> > > > > > > > honesty etc., and it's presence in

> lagna

> > > re

> > > > > > inforces

> > > > > > > > this side of Ju

> > > > > > > > and then a mere affliction (Or some

> > > impurity in

> > > > > > Ju's

> > > > > > > > lordship) can

> > > > > > > > make the person really very dishonest.

> > > This

> > > > > > > > principle of

> > > > > > > > reinforcement is what I have observed

> in

> > > my

> > > > > > little

> > > > > > > > learing and it

> > > > > > > > explains the misconcept of karaka

> bhava

> > > nasha

> > > > > > (or

> > > > > > > > whatever).

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > I have seen charts like this.

> However I

> > > must

> > > > > > also

> > > > > > > > admit that not

> > > > > > > > Ju's presence in lagna means bad

> character

> > > > > > either.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > PS I must also say that the specific

> > > problems

> > > > > > in

> > > > > > > > marriage is often

> > > > > > > > hard to say - I can give an example

> like

> > > seeing

> > > > > > it's

> > > > > > > > chart it is

> > > > > > > > often hard to say that whether the

> person

> > > or

> > > > > > his/her

> > > > > > > > spouse is going

> > > > > > > > to sleep with others. It is always (or

> > > often)

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > hard to say. We

> > > > > > > > can say that some infedality the

> native

> > > will

> > > > > > > > experience in his/her

> > > > > > > > married life. This can come as his own

> > > action or

> > > > > > his

> > > > > > > > spouse's. People

> > > > > > > > put straight fw rules for this but I

> have

> > > tested

> > > > > > > > them and they do not

> > > > > > > > always work. Since the chance is 50-50

> > > then a

> > > > > > guess

> > > > > > > > might even do.

> > > > > > > > But that's not the success. Sometimes

> I

> > > have

> > > > > > come

> > > > > > > > across typical

> > > > > > > > charts and have seen some common

> things

> > > that

> > > > > > lead to

> > > > > > > > breach of trust

> > > > > > > > in specifically WHO is going to do

> this

> > > (Either

> > > > > > > > native or the

> > > > > > > > spouse). A planets positional

> weakness,

> > > and

> > > > > > > > afflictional weakness etc

> > > > > > > > are to be considered differently in

> this

> > > matter

> > > > > > very

> > > > > > > > carefully. This

> > > > > > > > area is hard (At least to me) and

> would

> > > need

> > > > > > much

> > > > > > > > research, time etc.

> > > > > > > > to learn. May not be possible for me.

> > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > > > > > Tanvir

> > > > > > > >

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