7#Re:Illict RelationShip............More Examples

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Hi,

 

I Man's chart Venus and Moon seperation is just 1

degree,So luring himself into women is very common for

this person,is guy is of girlish nature and sweet

spoken.Lagna lord in 12th of scorpio.

In Navmasa Venus is exalted,But in 12th so sure

affair,aspected by Jupiter,is a religious

person.Opposing Mer,jealous too.A fearful person.

 

A girl with whom he is indulge in affair,I don't see

her having really an affair,she is definately a flirt

and like to enjoy a life and may be just carried

away,But will never have a serious relationship

externally,Yes Venus is afflicted by Rahu so during

that period of Life she must have got carried away and

as Jupiter is debi in Navmasa,a barrier that has to be

created wasn't so,so resuled into of low moral.But

Venus is exalted with Saturn,so she will understand

today or tommorrow what she is doing is wrong.

 

A guy is libido and will never want to break a

relationship.

 

--- sai_jyotish <sai_jyotish wrote:

 

> Respected Astrologers

>

> In addition to research on illict relationship i

> wish to add a data

> of person and a girl. this person is having storng

> extra marital

> relationship apart from a excellent married life and

> good religeous

> wife. What do u see as his future. Same with that

> girl she too is

> engaged in a relationship before marrige since past

> 2 and half yrs

> now wish break it and want to leave setteled married

> life. Hope these

> data will open more points to discuss.

>

> Man :

> 20/09/71

> 13:00

> Latt : 22.44-N Long : 75.40-E

>

> Girl

> 28/09/80

> 05:30

> Latt : 24.43-N Long : 81.25-E

>

>

> Pankaj Upadhyay

>

>

>

>

> vedic astrology, shyam murti

> gupta

> <smurti_gupta> wrote:

> > Respected Astrogurus,

> > I am not much versed on the subject but feel to

> put my humble

> observation in the Pune-Boys chart that his Pardara

> nakshtra 18 deg

> Shravan is fortified by Guru 23 deg and Chandra 13

> deg, covered eachh

> side by 5 deg and both being soumy grah causing

> Gajkesari yoga with

> 7th drasti on 7th Lord Sun in 6th with murcury -

> again a budhaditya

> yog. Lagna and 12th lord Saturn is with ketu in

> 5th house of love

> and passion besides offsprings - being a cold, slow

> and philosophical

> yuti of Sat-Ketu, he may on the contrary be

> otherwise ( no illicite

> relation).

> > In navamsa Venus-ketu yuti in 10th makes his

> activities unduly

> kalankit in home and work space, if I am guessing

> right.

> > One has to take several pros and cons of

> numerous intricacies in

> atrology before outright labelling som one

> characterless.

> > May lord jupiter shower lessing on all of us.

> > with best regards

> > shy

> >

> >

> > lakshmikary <lakshmikary> wrote:

> > Hare Krishna

> > Dear Shripal,

> > I wanted to add a few things.

> > Jupiter in 12th doesnt necessarally have anythign

> to do with

> illicite

> > relationships. It can also mean the person gives

> alot of money to

> > children, or is seperated from children (as in a

> divorce case)

> > Jupiter gives good indications as a matter of fact

> Jupiters aspect

> on

> > mercury gives , chastity. Look in navamsa chart,

> moon and merc in

> > trines without aspect of jupiter gives loose

> morals.Does he drink,

> > drinking loosens up peoples morals and principles.

> > Also,7th lord in 6th can give marraige to a

> partner that one feels

> > inimical to, or spouse can be sickly, i have

> several charts were

> long

> > marriages with this placement.

> > In general, Jupiter gives morality.Look and see if

> Jupiter aspects

> > lagna, LL, or what planets if any are in 10th from

> moon,etc

> > Saturn and Mars give coldness, cruelty and anger,

> frustration.

> > Im sorry didnt have chance to look at this

> specific chart.

> > Look at some charts of serial rapists for more

> detials on creeps.

> > Many were also cruel to animals in childhood.

> > Look to 2nd from UL, and 8th from UL to see

> results on marriages,

> > see how many planets are aspecting A7 for

> potential liasons,

> > be very careful in examining peoples charts in

> this regard,as some

> > people may go through a "phase" and not ever do it

> again.etc/

> > ALl the best ,

> > Lakshmi

> > vedic astrology, Shripal

> <d_shripal>

> > wrote:

> > > Jai Jinendra,

> > >

> > > I would like to add what you said,As you said

> moral

> > > character is down,7th lord in 6th house,does his

> > > marriage is going to break up or they will live

> > > throughout life may be for just a sake of

> parents or

> > > for nothing or for world and continue a

> relationship

> > > outside marriage.

> > >

> > > I want som more view,before i reach to any

> > > conclusion.In Navmasa Venus in capricon and Mars

> 8th

> > > aspect and Jupiter debi in 12th,even will make

> him go

> > > to slute or prostitutes.Above all Venus

> debi,Person

> > > doesn't know what is Love.

> > >

> > > --- skumar_varanasi <skumar_varanasi>

> > > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Jai Sai Ram

> > > >

> > > > Hi

> > > > I will try to share my views about the illicit

> > > > relationships in a

> > > > male native chart.I think the jupiter in 12H

> will

> > > > make the native

> > > > dishonest and with questionalble character.For

> a

> > > > male i think its

> > > > the Venus which can give the chances of

> illicit

> > > > relationships by

> > > > virtue of its placement like in 8H,in Libra

> Mool

> > > > trikon,7L with

> > > > Venus,7L in 6,8,12H,2L with venus,conjoining

> of

> > > > malefics with venus

> > > > or 7L.

> > > >

> > > > The running of Dashas and anterdashas of venus

> under

> > > > malefics like

> > > > venus anterdasha in raahu dasha will give

> illicit

> > > > relationships.

> > > > Learned Guru's pls correct if i am wroung.

> > > >

> > > > Regards,

> > > >

> > > > Sunil Kumar Varanasi

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology,

> Shripal

> > > > <d_shripal>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Jai Jinendra,

> > > > >

> > > > > I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in

> 12th with

> > > > > Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is

> having

> > > > > illicit relationship with many woman of age

> > > > greater

> > > > > than him,always try to lure them through

> > > > emotionally

> > > > > and spends lots of money on them

> > > > >

> > > > > While on other hand there is hardly any

> > > > relationship

> > > > > with wife or speaks even sweetly,rather

> torcher

> > > > her

> > > > > and ask for money etc and stuff.Always

> demands for

> > > > Sex

> > > > > if not getting from other woman with whom he

> has

> > > > > relationship.Pathetic person,not ashamed of

> even

> > > > > saying such a things and having such a

> > > > > relationship.Total desperate person.Venus is

> > > > > debiliated and in Navamsa afflicted my Mars.

> > > > >

> > > > > But from outwards he acts very norn=mal and

> hides

> > > > all

> > > > > his feelings,especially for girls.If we see

> his

> > > > AL,?It

> > > > > is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter and

> moon in

> > > > 4th

> > > > > makes him possible to perceive others that

> he is

> > > > Good

> > > > > and even for sexual relationship he is albe

> to

> > > > show he

> > > > > is passionate and Good lover.

> > > > >

> > > > > But as Lagna lord afflicted with Ketu,debil

> Venus

> > > > in

> > > > > 8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all water

> when

> > > > > things actually comes front of those

> > > > specimen,actuall

> > > > > close entity will soon come to know he truth

> and I

> > > > > guess smart will take avantage of him and

> dump him

> > > > > down when find a better one and again he

> will all

> > > > come

> > > > > to his life full of grief.

> > > > >

> > > > > His bith data:13th August 1973

> > > > > Time:20.15

> > > > > Place:Pune,India

> > > > >

> > > > > I want some more thoughts on this chart.I

> know him

> > > > > through someone,But he doesn't know me.It

> will be

> > > > good

> > > > > specimen for a illicit relationship to

> judge.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > --- ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst> wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Tanvir ji,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > sorry for jumping in..

> > > > > >

> > > > > > but wht is to be seen particularly in

> > > > horo...means

> > > > > > it is said that

> > > > > > jupiter even if debilated gives positive

> > > > results.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > do saturn or mars and venus....as

> specified in

> > > > > > trimsamsa.are to be

> > > > > > seen particularly.

> > > > > >

> > > > > > kindly guide me

> > > > > >

> > > > > > thanks

> > > > > >

> > > > > > tarun..

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > ,

> > > > "Tanvir"

> > > > > > <ultimate@s...>

> > > > > > wrote:

> > > > > > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's aspect

> on

> > > > Lagna

> > > > > > cannot assure a

> > > > > > good character. I would say that even Ju's

> > > > presence

> > > > > > in lagna cannot

> > > > > > assure, rather it makes the matter MORE

> RISKY.

> > > > Ju

> > > > > > rules character and

> > > > > > honesty etc., and it's presence in lagna

> re

> > > > inforces

> > > > > > this side of Ju

> > > > > > and then a mere affliction (Or some

> impurity in

> > > > Ju's

> > > > > > lordship) can

> > > > > > make the person really very dishonest.

> This

> > > > > > principle of

> > > > > > reinforcement is what I have observed in

> my

> > > > little

> > > > > > learing and it

> > > > > > explains the misconcept of karaka bhava

> nasha

> > > > (or

> > > > > > whatever).

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > I have seen charts like this. However I

> must

> > > > also

> > > > > > admit that not

> > > > > > Ju's presence in lagna means bad character

> > > > either.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > PS I must also say that the specific

> problems

> > > > in

> > > > > > marriage is often

> > > > > > hard to say - I can give an example like

> seeing

> > > > it's

> > > > > > chart it is

> > > > > > often hard to say that whether the person

> or

> > > > his/her

> > > > > > spouse is going

> > > > > > to sleep with others. It is always (or

> often)

> > > > very

> > > > > > hard to say. We

> > > > > > can say that some infedality the native

> will

> > > > > > experience in his/her

> > > > > > married life. This can come as his own

> action or

> > > > his

> > > > > > spouse's. People

> > > > > > put straight fw rules for this but I have

> tested

> > > > > > them and they do not

> > > > > > always work. Since the chance is 50-50

> then a

> > > > guess

> > > > > > might even do.

> > > > > > But that's not the success. Sometimes I

> have

> > > > come

> > > > > > across typical

> > > > > > charts and have seen some common things

> that

> > > > lead to

> > > > > > breach of trust

> > > > > > in specifically WHO is going to do this

> (Either

> > > > > > native or the

> > > > > > spouse). A planets positional weakness,

> and

> > > > > > afflictional weakness etc

> > > > > > are to be considered differently in this

> matter

> > > > very

> > > > > > carefully. This

> > > > > > area is hard (At least to me) and would

> need

> > > > much

> > > > > > research, time etc.

> > > > > > to learn. May not be possible for me.

> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > > > Tanvir

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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hi,

can u consider this case too ..

throw some light ob this..

26-may-1976

07.22 am

delhi.

 

regards

mukesh

 

--- Shripal <d_shripal wrote:

 

> Hi,

>

> I Man's chart Venus and Moon seperation is just 1

> degree,So luring himself into women is very common

> for

> this person,is guy is of girlish nature and sweet

> spoken.Lagna lord in 12th of scorpio.

> In Navmasa Venus is exalted,But in 12th so sure

> affair,aspected by Jupiter,is a religious

> person.Opposing Mer,jealous too.A fearful person.

>

> A girl with whom he is indulge in affair,I don't see

> her having really an affair,she is definately a

> flirt

> and like to enjoy a life and may be just carried

> away,But will never have a serious relationship

> externally,Yes Venus is afflicted by Rahu so during

> that period of Life she must have got carried away

> and

> as Jupiter is debi in Navmasa,a barrier that has to

> be

> created wasn't so,so resuled into of low moral.But

> Venus is exalted with Saturn,so she will understand

> today or tommorrow what she is doing is wrong.

>

> A guy is libido and will never want to break a

> relationship.

>

> --- sai_jyotish <sai_jyotish wrote:

>

> > Respected Astrologers

> >

> > In addition to research on illict relationship i

> > wish to add a data

> > of person and a girl. this person is having storng

> > extra marital

> > relationship apart from a excellent married life

> and

> > good religeous

> > wife. What do u see as his future. Same with that

> > girl she too is

> > engaged in a relationship before marrige since

> past

> > 2 and half yrs

> > now wish break it and want to leave setteled

> married

> > life. Hope these

> > data will open more points to discuss.

> >

> > Man :

> > 20/09/71

> > 13:00

> > Latt : 22.44-N Long : 75.40-E

> >

> > Girl

> > 28/09/80

> > 05:30

> > Latt : 24.43-N Long : 81.25-E

> >

> >

> > Pankaj Upadhyay

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, shyam

> murti

> > gupta

> > <smurti_gupta> wrote:

> > > Respected Astrogurus,

> > > I am not much versed on the subject but feel

> to

> > put my humble

> > observation in the Pune-Boys chart that his

> Pardara

> > nakshtra 18 deg

> > Shravan is fortified by Guru 23 deg and Chandra 13

> > deg, covered eachh

> > side by 5 deg and both being soumy grah causing

> > Gajkesari yoga with

> > 7th drasti on 7th Lord Sun in 6th with murcury -

> > again a budhaditya

> > yog. Lagna and 12th lord Saturn is with ketu in

> > 5th house of love

> > and passion besides offsprings - being a cold,

> slow

> > and philosophical

> > yuti of Sat-Ketu, he may on the contrary be

> > otherwise ( no illicite

> > relation).

> > > In navamsa Venus-ketu yuti in 10th makes his

> > activities unduly

> > kalankit in home and work space, if I am guessing

> > right.

> > > One has to take several pros and cons of

> > numerous intricacies in

> > atrology before outright labelling som one

> > characterless.

> > > May lord jupiter shower lessing on all of us.

> > > with best regards

> > > shy

> > >

> > >

> > > lakshmikary <lakshmikary> wrote:

> > > Hare Krishna

> > > Dear Shripal,

> > > I wanted to add a few things.

> > > Jupiter in 12th doesnt necessarally have

> anythign

> > to do with

> > illicite

> > > relationships. It can also mean the person gives

> > alot of money to

> > > children, or is seperated from children (as in a

> > divorce case)

> > > Jupiter gives good indications as a matter of

> fact

> > Jupiters aspect

> > on

> > > mercury gives , chastity. Look in navamsa chart,

> > moon and merc in

> > > trines without aspect of jupiter gives loose

> > morals.Does he drink,

> > > drinking loosens up peoples morals and

> principles.

> > > Also,7th lord in 6th can give marraige to a

> > partner that one feels

> > > inimical to, or spouse can be sickly, i have

> > several charts were

> > long

> > > marriages with this placement.

> > > In general, Jupiter gives morality.Look and see

> if

> > Jupiter aspects

> > > lagna, LL, or what planets if any are in 10th

> from

> > moon,etc

> > > Saturn and Mars give coldness, cruelty and

> anger,

> > frustration.

> > > Im sorry didnt have chance to look at this

> > specific chart.

> > > Look at some charts of serial rapists for more

> > detials on creeps.

> > > Many were also cruel to animals in childhood.

> > > Look to 2nd from UL, and 8th from UL to see

> > results on marriages,

> > > see how many planets are aspecting A7 for

> > potential liasons,

> > > be very careful in examining peoples charts in

> > this regard,as some

> > > people may go through a "phase" and not ever do

> it

> > again.etc/

> > > ALl the best ,

> > > Lakshmi

> > > vedic astrology, Shripal

> > <d_shripal>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Jai Jinendra,

> > > >

> > > > I would like to add what you said,As you said

> > moral

> > > > character is down,7th lord in 6th house,does

> his

> > > > marriage is going to break up or they will

> live

> > > > throughout life may be for just a sake of

> > parents or

> > > > for nothing or for world and continue a

> > relationship

> > > > outside marriage.

> > > >

> > > > I want som more view,before i reach to any

> > > > conclusion.In Navmasa Venus in capricon and

> Mars

> > 8th

> > > > aspect and Jupiter debi in 12th,even will make

> > him go

> > > > to slute or prostitutes.Above all Venus

> > debi,Person

> > > > doesn't know what is Love.

> > > >

> > > > --- skumar_varanasi <skumar_varanasi>

> > > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > > Jai Sai Ram

> > > > >

> > > > > Hi

> > > > > I will try to share my views about the

> illicit

> > > > > relationships in a

> > > > > male native chart.I think the jupiter in 12H

> > will

> > > > > make the native

> > > > > dishonest and with questionalble

> character.For

> > a

> > > > > male i think its

> > > > > the Venus which can give the chances of

> > illicit

>

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