5# Re:Illict RelationShip - Good Example

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Jai Jinendra Michal,

 

Your analysis is amazing,I too wanted to use AL and Ul

technique and you have done it,

He got married in March 2004.

 

Let me tell you worst,He already had a affair since 3

years and bfore getting Marriage in Feb He had another

affair and broke the first one and Marriage in March

and know after having a long one year of Marriage and

New affair,he still wants ot keep Old affair,I just

don't believe this guy.

 

When ever I see him in office I feel like kicking him

there forever and foget to do with anyone.Such a

pathetic personality.

 

whenever he talks with other woman always starts

cryong and being sad about fail in marriage life and

wife is not behaving properly and so he has to buy

other flat etc etc.All sorts of thing and yes not to

forget never forget to tell"I Love you" to anyone.

 

He drinks a lot,takes cigarettes and even Pan

masala.Working as a Marketting person and working like

hell and always smoochingother's ass for nothing or

everthing,even in affairs.

 

I want some more analysis on above things I mentioned.

More information you want I can get it.

 

--- Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal wrote:

 

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Dear Shripal,

>

> Certainly a good specimen. Rahu is debilitated in

> the

> second from UL. This does not bode well for the

> sustenance of the marriage. The AL is in the

> twelfth

> from the UL, which should indicate the spouses

> rejection of this person eventually, or at least

> some

> distaste for him currently. The A7 darapada shows

> the

> sexual drive and it is placed in the ninth from AL

> adding oppertunity to already established desire.

> It

> is conjoined Saturn (older) and Ketu (lowly)

> contacts.

> So extramarital affairs come more easily than

> mintaining a good marriage. A great deal of

> temptation and deviance is there. Did he get

> married

> during Narayana dasa of Virgo (08/00 - 08/02)? The

> current Mercury antardasa could see the end of his

> marriage.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal.

>

> --- Shripal <d_shripal wrote:

>

> > Jai Jinendra,

> >

> > I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in 12th with

> > Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is having

> > illicit relationship with many woman of age

> greater

> > than him,always try to lure them through

> emotionally

> > and spends lots of money on them

> >

> > While on other hand there is hardly any

> relationship

> > with wife or speaks even sweetly,rather torcher

> her

> > and ask for money etc and stuff.Always demands for

> > Sex

> > if not getting from other woman with whom he has

> > relationship.Pathetic person,not ashamed of even

> > saying such a things and having such a

> > relationship.Total desperate person.Venus is

> > debiliated and in Navamsa afflicted my Mars.

> >

> > But from outwards he acts very norn=mal and hides

> > all

> > his feelings,especially for girls.If we see his

> > AL,?It

> > is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter and moon in

> > 4th

> > makes him possible to perceive others that he is

> > Good

> > and even for sexual relationship he is albe to

> show

> > he

> > is passionate and Good lover.

> >

> > But as Lagna lord afflicted with Ketu,debil Venus

> in

> > 8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all water when

> > things actually comes front of those

> > specimen,actuall

> > close entity will soon come to know he truth and I

> > guess smart will take avantage of him and dump him

> > down when find a better one and again he will all

> > come

> > to his life full of grief.

> >

> > His bith data:13th August 1973

> > Time:20.15

> > Place:Pune,India

> >

> > I want some more thoughts on this chart.I know him

> > through someone,But he doesn't know me.It will be

> > good

> > specimen for a illicit relationship to judge.

> >

> >

> > --- ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst wrote:

> >

> > > Dear Tanvir ji,

> > >

> > > sorry for jumping in..

> > >

> > > but wht is to be seen particularly in

> horo...means

> > > it is said that

> > > jupiter even if debilated gives positive

> results.

> > >

> > > do saturn or mars and venus....as specified in

> > > trimsamsa.are to be

> > > seen particularly.

> > >

> > > kindly guide me

> > >

> > > thanks

> > >

> > > tarun..

> > >

> > >

> > > ,

> "Tanvir"

> > > <ultimate@s...>

> > > wrote:

> > > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's aspect on

> > Lagna

> > > cannot assure a

> > > good character. I would say that even Ju's

> > presence

> > > in lagna cannot

> > > assure, rather it makes the matter MORE RISKY.

> Ju

> > > rules character and

> > > honesty etc., and it's presence in lagna re

> > inforces

> > > this side of Ju

> > > and then a mere affliction (Or some impurity in

> > Ju's

> > > lordship) can

> > > make the person really very dishonest. This

> > > principle of

> > > reinforcement is what I have observed in my

> little

> > > learing and it

> > > explains the misconcept of karaka bhava nasha

> (or

> > > whatever).

> > > >

> > > > I have seen charts like this. However I must

> > also

> > > admit that not

> > > Ju's presence in lagna means bad character

> either.

> > > >

> > > > PS I must also say that the specific problems

> in

> > > marriage is often

> > > hard to say - I can give an example like seeing

> > it's

> > > chart it is

> > > often hard to say that whether the person or

> > his/her

> > > spouse is going

> > > to sleep with others. It is always (or often)

> very

> > > hard to say. We

> > > can say that some infedality the native will

> > > experience in his/her

> > > married life. This can come as his own action or

> > his

> > > spouse's. People

> > > put straight fw rules for this but I have tested

> > > them and they do not

> > > always work. Since the chance is 50-50 then a

> > guess

> > > might even do.

> > > But that's not the success. Sometimes I have

> come

> > > across typical

> > > charts and have seen some common things that

> lead

> > to

> > > breach of trust

> > > in specifically WHO is going to do this (Either

> > > native or the

> > > spouse). A planets positional weakness, and

> > > afflictional weakness etc

> > > are to be considered differently in this matter

> > very

> > > carefully. This

> > > area is hard (At least to me) and would need

> much

> > > research, time etc.

> > > to learn. May not be possible for me.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Tanvir

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> > Love is the beauty of the soul

> >

> >

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Dear Shripal, Namaskar,

 

Jupiter is 7th lord from Venus, so dasa will bring the spouse. Jupiter is

debilitated but retrograde, so results will have to come. However Mercury is

8th lord, maraka to the seventh, and in Navamsa is exalted but aspected by 3

malefics, so his dasa could possibly terminate the marriage.

Hope this helps.

 

Respectfully,

Michal.

 

Om Namo Narayanaya Shripal <d_shripal > wrote:

Jai Jinendra Michal,Your analysis is amazing,I too wanted to use AL and

Ultechnique and you have done it,He got married in March 2004.Let me tell you

worst,He already had a affair since 3years and bfore getting Marriage in Feb He

had anotheraffair and broke the first one and Marriage in Marchand know after

having a long one year of Marriage andNew affair,he still wants ot keep Old

affair,I justdon't believe this guy.When ever I see him in office I feel like

kicking himthere forever and foget to do with anyone.Such apathetic

personality.whenever he talks with other woman always startscryong and being

sad about fail in marriage life andwife is not behaving properly and so he has

to buyother flat etc etc.All sorts of thing and yes not toforget never forget

to tell"I Love you" to

anyone.He drinks a lot,takes cigarettes and even Panmasala.Working as a

Marketting person and working likehell and always smoochingother's ass for

nothing oreverthing,even in affairs.I want some more analysis on above things I

mentioned.More information you want I can get it.--- Michal Dziwulski

<nearmichal > wrote:> Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Shripal,> >

Certainly a good specimen. Rahu is debilitated in> the> second from UL. This

does not bode well for the> sustenance of the marriage. The AL is in the>

twelfth> from the UL, which should indicate the spouses> rejection of this

person eventually, or at least> some> distaste for him currently. The A7

darapada shows> the> sexual drive and it is placed in the ninth from AL> adding

oppertunity to already established desire. > It>

is conjoined Saturn (older) and Ketu (lowly)> contacts.> So extramarital

affairs come more easily than> mintaining a good marriage. A great deal of>

temptation and deviance is there. Did he get> married> during Narayana dasa of

Virgo (08/00 - 08/02)? The> current Mercury antardasa could see the end of his>

marriage. > > Respectfully,> Michal. > > --- Shripal <d_shripal >

wrote:> > > Jai Jinendra,> > > > I knowa Guy having Debiliated Jupiter in 12th

with> > Moon,However Sun and Mer in 6th house,is having> > illicit relationship

with many woman of age> greater> > than him,always try to lure them through>

emotionally> > and spends lots of money on them> > > > While on other hand

there is hardly any> relationship> > with

wife or speaks even sweetly,rather torcher> her> > and ask for money etc and

stuff.Always demands for> > Sex> > if not getting from other woman with whom he

has> > relationship.Pathetic person,not ashamed of even> > saying such a things

and having such a> > relationship.Total desperate person.Venus is> > debiliated

and in Navamsa afflicted my Mars.> > > > But from outwards he acts very norn=mal

and hides> > all> > his feelings,especially for girls.If we see his> > AL,?It> >

is Libra and Venus in 12th,so Jupiter and moon in> > 4th> > makes him possible

to perceive others that he is> > Good> > and even for sexual relationship he is

albe to> show> > he> > is passionate and Good lover.> > > > But as Lagna lord

afflicted with Ketu,debil Venus> in> >

8th and Debi Jupiter in 12th,puts all water when> > things actually comes front

of those> > specimen,actuall> > close entity will soon come to know he truth

and I> > guess smart will take avantage of him and dump him> > down when find a

better one and again he will all> > come> > to his life full of grief.> > > >

His bith data:13th August 1973> > Time:20.15> > Place:Pune,India> > > > I want

some more thoughts on this chart.I know him> > through someone,But he doesn't

know me.It will be> > good> > specimen for a illicit relationship to judge.> >

> > > > --- ~ Tarun ~ <tarun_vst > wrote:> > > > > Dear Tanvir ji,> >

> > > > sorry for jumping in..> > > > > > but wht is to be seen particularly

in>

horo...means> > > it is said that > > > jupiter even if debilated gives

positive> results.> > > > > > do saturn or mars and venus....as specified in>

> > trimsamsa.are to be > > > seen particularly.> > > > > > kindly guide me> >

> > > > thanks > > > > > > tarun..> > > > > > > > > --- In

,> "Tanvir"> > > <ultimate@s...> > > > wrote:>

> > > As Ashutosh ji rightly said, Ju's aspect on> > Lagna> > > cannot assure a

> > > good character. I would say that even Ju's> > presence> > > in lagna

cannot > > > assure, rather it makes the matter MORE RISKY.> Ju> > > rules

character and > > > honesty

etc., and it's presence in lagna re> > inforces> > > this side of Ju > > > and

then a mere affliction (Or some impurity in> > Ju's> > > lordship) can > > >

make the person really very dishonest. This> > > principle of > > >

reinforcement is what I have observed in my> little> > > learing and it > > >

explains the misconcept of karaka bhava nasha> (or> > > whatever).> > > > > > >

> I have seen charts like this. However I must> > also> > > admit that not > > >

Ju's presence in lagna means bad character> either.> > > > > > > > PS I must

also say that the specific problems> in> > > marriage is often > > > hard to

say - I can give an example like seeing> > it's> > > chart it is

> > > often hard to say that whether the person or> > his/her> > > spouse is

going > > > to sleep with others. It is always (or often)> very> > > hard to

say. We > > > can say that some infedality the native will> > > experience in

his/her > > > married life. This can come as his own action or> > his> > >

spouse's. People > > > put straight fw rules for this but I have tested> > >

them and they do not > > > always work. Since the chance is 50-50 then a> >

guess> > > might even do. > > > But that's not the success. Sometimes I have>

come> > > across typical > > > charts and have seen some common things that>

lead> > to> > > breach of trust > > > in specifically WHO is going to do this

(Either> >

> native or the > > > spouse). A planets positional weakness, and> > >

afflictional weakness etc > > > are to be considered differently in this

matter> > very> > > carefully. This > > > area is hard (At least to me) and

would need> much> > > research, time etc. > > > to learn. May not be possible

for me.> > > > > > > > Best wishes> > > > Tanvir > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > Love is the beauty of the soul> > > >

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of spam? Mail has the best spam> > protection around > >

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