Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Dear List Members, I am including a female chart, where Sa, Rh and Ma have graha drishti on Ve in own house. I am unclear if this affliction is attributed to curse of a spouse. Is so what are the remedies? Sincerely, Supriti Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing &; more. Check it out! Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Sushmita.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Satguru, Simha Lagnam,venus in its onw house, there is aspect of Jupiter,purvapunya lord,venus is ninth from the moon sign,a yogakaraka from chandra lagna.Aspect of Mars is not a blemish.Venus aspect by both yogakaraka for simha lagna.If it is a girl she will have blessing Mahalakshimi.Moon aspect by own lord.Only blemish i see is ketu in the 8th place.Sarpa Dosha.Do the remedies.Birth on friday attributed to Venus.Tie holy thread( Taali) after pooja to Naga for 48 days to Durga/Lakshimi.After jupiter transit to libra things will be very better.If you wish email me at rsmaniam (AT) tm (DOT) net.my R.S.Maniam Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 > wrote: |Om Gurave Namah| Dear List Members, I am including a female chart, where Sa, Rh and Ma have graha drishti on Ve in own house. I am unclear if this affliction is attributed to curse of a spouse. Is so what are the remedies? Sincerely, Supriti Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Tired of spam? Mail has the best spam protection around Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Hariom Satguru, Simha Lagnam,venus in its onw house, there is aspect of Jupiter,purvapunya lord,venus is ninth from the moon sign,a yogakaraka from chandra lagna.Aspect of Mars is not a blemish.Venus aspect by both yogakaraka for simha lagna.If it is a girl she will have blessing Mahalakshimi.Moon aspect by own lord.Only blemish i see is ketu in the 8th place.Sarpa Dosha.Do the remedies.Birth on friday attributed to Venus.Tie holy thread( Taali) after pooja to Naga for 48 days to Durga/Lakshimi.After jupiter transit to libra things will be very better.If you wish email me at rsmaniam (AT) tm (DOT) net.my R.S.ManiamSupriti Majumdar <supriti15 > wrote: |Om Gurave Namah| Dear List Members, I am including a female chart, where Sa, Rh and Ma have graha drishti on Ve in own house. I am unclear if this affliction is attributed to curse of a spouse. Is so what are the remedies? Sincerely, Supriti Discover Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing & more. Check it out! ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Supriti, Namaskar Could you post the birth data in text form? - the attachments are not stored and do not come through in daily digests. All three malefics having graha dristi on Venus is no doubt a curse of spouse. The houses/signs involved will show the details. One of the remedies given by Sanjayji in VRA is for the native to engage in helping other couples settle into marriage - buying them a bed etc. There may be more remedies which the Gurus might suggest. I hope that helps, Samir At 23:08 16/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________ Message: 13 Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 > Curse of a spouse |Om Gurave Namah| Dear List Members, I am including a female chart, where Sa, Rh and Ma have graha drishti on Ve in own house. I am unclear if this affliction is attributed to curse of a spouse. Is so what are the remedies? Sincerely, Supriti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 Dear Samir, Thank you for your response. I am posting the birth data below. Sushmita Natal Chart November 18, 1977Time: 23:21:30Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00" Calcutta, India Looking forward to hearing more. SupritiSamir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Supriti, NamaskarCould you post the birth data in text form? - the attachments are not stored and do not come through in daily digests.All three malefics having graha dristi on Venus is no doubt a curse of spouse. The houses/signs involved will show the details.One of the remedies given by Sanjayji in VRA is for the native to engage in helping other couples settle into marriage - buying them a bed etc. There may be more remedies which the Gurus might suggest.I hope that helps,Samir At 23:08 16/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 13 Thu, 16 Jun 2005 04:29:01 -0700 (PDT) Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 >Curse of a spouse|Om Gurave Namah|Dear List Members, I am including a female chart, where Sa, Rh and Ma have graha drishti on Ve in own house. I am unclear if this affliction is attributed to curse of a spouse. Is so what are the remedies? Sincerely,Supriti~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Mail - Find what you need with new enhanced search. Learn more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Supriti, Namaskar I hope this person has a happy birthday tomorrow. There are actually two curses in this chart - firstly Venus is afflicted by Rahu, Saturn and Mars, and secondly the Moon is afflicted by Saturn and Mars. However Venus is the greater benefic in this case so the curse of spouse is the important one. Venus is 3rd and 10th lord, so the effects will be felt in these areas - courage/self-respect and career. Venus is Amatyakaraka so career is highlighted. Meanwhile each of the malefics will have their influence in accordance with the houses they own and where they are placed. Particularly Saturn in Lagna I think would cause problems with recurrent short-term illnesses and marriage (note Venus in the 2nd from UL). Saturn is in Lagna in both Rasi and Navamsa so I think this would definitely have caused health problems. Let me know if this is the case! That said, neither the 8th lord nor the AK is involved here, so the effects of the curse may not manifest greatly in this life. Bhadakesh Mars alone in the 12th house is good also. I think debilitation is good for such a placement also. I ask that the learned members kindly correct my mistakes. Best wishes, Samir Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 Fri Jun 17, 2005 10:34 am Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse |Om Krishna Guru| Dear Samir, Thank you for your response. I am posting the birth data below. Sushmita Natal Chart November 18, 1977 Time: 23:21:30 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 88 E 22' 00", 22 N 34' 00" Calcutta, India Looking forward to hearing more. Supriti Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2005 Report Share Posted June 17, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Samir, Supriti Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover. Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s. When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic. Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness. Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels. Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, but of course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects. This is however how I understood this problems. Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating. Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sun so person will be concious about getting good medicine. The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards, Rafal Gendarz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rafal, Namaskar Thank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries: 1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly? 2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both? Thank you, Samir At 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________ Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> Re: Re: Curse of a spouse II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Samir, Supriti Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover. Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s. When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic. Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness. Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels. Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, but of course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects. This is however how I understood this problems. Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating. Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sun so person will be concious about getting good medicine. The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards, Rafal Gendarz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Samir, Namaskar 1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly? I can't answer this querry as I dont heard about it. I know only about the lessons which are described by the karaka of the planet. Venus - be careful in relationship with opposite sex. Jupiter - be careful about Your attitude towards Guru etc. 2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both? I have also a curse in my chart, we were doing this with Guruji and He took only the houses lorded by malefics, not placement of the malefics as a area of trouble in life due to curse. BTW, My Messenger is jyotraff108. My skype : jyotraff1. with regards, Rafal Gendarz. Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Samir, Namaskar, About curse: Page 68. VRA. with regards, Rafal Gendarz - Samir Shah Sunday, June 19, 2005 6:23 AM [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal, NamaskarThank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries:1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly?2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Thank you for looking into this. About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa in it. Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3 years (to be married next year) was cheating on her. When do you think she will get married? Sincerely, Supriti Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal, NamaskarThank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries:1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly?2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Rafal, I think Mo gives Ma Neechbhanga here. If so how does that influence the 4th and 9th house? Thanks SupritiSamir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal, NamaskarThank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries:1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly?2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Supriti, I dont take Navamsa Lagna for how we look like, it is complicated and I am not sure about that, instead I take abilities. Saturn in Lagna can indicate that native can work very hard consistently. Saturn in Lagna also can mean that person is shy in relationships. with regards, Rafal Gendarz - Supriti Majumdar Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:32 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members Thank you for looking into this. About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa in it. Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3 years (to be married next year) was cheating on her. When do you think she will get married? Sincerely, Supriti Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal, NamaskarThank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries:1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly?2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Supriti, Namaskar NEECHA BHANGA: Neecha bhanga can give 3 planets : For Sun : Mars - because it's exalt Sun Saturn - because it's exalted in debilitited Sign Venus - because it is debilitation Sign Now in this chart : For Mars : Saturn - because it's exalt Mars Jupiter - because it's exalteted in debilitated Sign Moon - because it is debilitation Sign Kendra From Lagna (we can help ourselves) -Saturn -Moon Kendra From Moon (remedies/mantras can us) -Saturn Saturn is in Maraka Karaka Sthana in house of enemy (Sun) and in enemy sign (Leo in 7 from Mooltikrona). Moon is in house of enemy (Saturn) and in enemy sign (Upachaya from Mooltikrona sign) So this two planets help but only a little, however this Mars is better debilitated than exalted - Malefics in Dushtana's are better debilitated (if not retrograde). However I think it is bad for Lordship, so these houses can suffer. There is also Uccha-bhanga issue. KARAKA TECHNIQUE : Now if we look at area of suffering we always must take : - Planet in house - Lord - Karaka If we take 4H as education then see Mercury. (Mars and Ketu will be bad there) If we take 4H as Home - Mars would be good there. So if 4H is damaged by Lordship: look at Moon, Mercury and Mars to see what is damaged. Hope this helps, with regards, Rafal Gendarz - Supriti Majumdar Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:39 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse |Om Gurave Namah| Dear Rafal, I think Mo gives Ma Neechbhanga here. If so how does that influence the 4th and 9th house? Thanks SupritiSamir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal, NamaskarThank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries:1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly?2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Supriti and list members, Rahu is seventh lord in mulatrikona with UL, so deviance can be expected from partner. The second house from UL shows the sustenance, and I would guess her partner might buy her nice things, perfumes, flowers, to compensate. Perhaps she may have been aware of selling herself short since this same combination falls in the 12th from AL. She is running Narayana dasa of Libra (giving results of Aries with A7) which puts this Venus in the seventh from dasa rasi, about to be transitted by Jupiter next year. In Vimshottari dasa, Mercury antar begins next year, as lord of UL. Things could go as already planned. If I've missed something, I hope to be corrected. Respectfully, Michal. Om Namo Narayanaya --- Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 wrote: > Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members > > Thank you for looking into this. > > About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and > beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa in > it. > > Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3 > years (to be married next year) was cheating on her. > When do you think she will get married? > > Sincerely, > Supriti > > Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote: > || Hare Rama Krsna || > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar > > Thank you for the clarifications. Your point about > the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is > not good for the houses it lords. > > I have just a couple of queries: > > 1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied > by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows > the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So > maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be > balanced and just towards others - specifically > lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle > correctly? > > 2. Guruji has also written in the past that the > houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate > the area the curse will manifest, as well as the > houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. > So the question is, is there a way to determine > whether the effects will be seen in the houses > lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the > afflicting malefics? Or will it be both? > > Thank you, > > Samir > > > At 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: > ______________________ > > Message: 10 > Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 > "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme > Re: Re: Curse of a spouse > > II Hare Rama Krsna II > Dear Samir, Supriti > > Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of > the lover. > Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are > attacked by the curse/s. > When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose > the higher benefic. > > Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness. > Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / > travels. > > Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as > obstacles are small, but > of course it is not so good for lordship. It is like > Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet > then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way > Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed > effects. > This is however how I understood this problems. > > Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, > which can give bad health, person is also > dominating. > > Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, > but Lagna Lord is Sun > so person will be concious about getting good > medicine. > > > The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 > seconds before..so we must be careful. > > with regards, > Rafal Gendarz > > ~ om tat sat ~ > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta > Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare > Rama Krishna' > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > Great who said that the human stomach should not > become a graveyard for animals. > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > free chart reading today > > > > > Links > > > / > > > > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > > Sports > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football __ Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football http://football.fantasysports. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Michal, Supriti, Namaskar, > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Supriti and list members,> > Rahu is seventh lord in mulatrikona with UL, so> deviance can be expected from partner. The second> house from UL shows the sustenance, and I would guess> her partner might buy her nice things, perfumes,> flowers, to compensate. Perhaps she may have been> aware of selling herself short since this same> combination falls in the 12th from AL. She is running> Narayana dasa of Libra (giving results of Aries with> A7) which puts this Venus in the seventh from dasa> rasi, about to be transitted by Jupiter next year. Yes. We start Narayana Dasa from 7H so we take 7H from Dasa Rasi in Maha Dasa analysis BUT when 7L is in L or L is in 7H then this rule is out. So there is Aries as Saturn is in Lagna. In Vimshottari dasa, Mercury antar begins next year, as> lord of UL. Things could go as already planned. Venus in Dwi-saptati, so some expenditures on maintaince of marriage, as Michal Ji wrote. Hope this helps, with regards, Rafal Gendarz > If I've missed something, I hope to be corrected.> Respectfully,> Michal.> > Om Namo Narayanaya > > --- Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 > wrote:> >> Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members>> >> Thank you for looking into this.>> >> About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and>> beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa in>> it. >> >> Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3>> years (to be married next year) was cheating on her.>> When do you think she will get married?>> >> Sincerely,>> Supriti>> >> Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote:>> || Hare Rama Krsna ||>> >> Dear Rafal, Namaskar>> >> Thank you for the clarifications. Your point about>> the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is>> not good for the houses it lords. >> >> I have just a couple of queries:>> >> 1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied>> by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows>> the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So>> maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be>> balanced and just towards others - specifically>> lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle>> correctly?>> >> 2. Guruji has also written in the past that the>> houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate>> the area the curse will manifest, as well as the>> houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. >> So the question is, is there a way to determine>> whether the effects will be seen in the houses>> lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the>> afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?>> >> Thank you,>> >> Samir>> >> >> At 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote:>>> ______________________>> >> Message: 10 >> Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200>> "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>>> Re: Re: Curse of a spouse>> >> II Hare Rama Krsna II>> Dear Samir, Supriti>> >> Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of>> the lover.>> Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are>> attacked by the curse/s.>> When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose>> the higher benefic.>> >> Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.>> Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma />> travels.>> >> Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as>> obstacles are small, but>> of course it is not so good for lordship. It is like>> Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet>> then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way>> Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed>> effects.>> This is however how I understood this problems.>> >> Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana,>> which can give bad health, person is also>> dominating.>> >> Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health,>> but Lagna Lord is Sun>> so person will be concious about getting good>> medicine.>> >> >> The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30>> seconds before..so we must be careful. >> >> with regards,>> Rafal Gendarz>> >> ~ om tat sat ~>> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta>> Ashram. >> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare>> Rama Krishna'>> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the>> Great who said that the human stomach should not>> become a graveyard for animals.>> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one>> free chart reading today >> >> >> >> >> Groups Links>> >> >> />> >> To from this group, send an email to:>> >> >> Your use of is subject to the>> >> >> >> >> >> Sports>> Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy> Football> > > > > __ > Sports > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > http://football.fantasysports.> > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > <*> To from this group, send an email to:> > > <*> Your > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Hare Rama Krsna Dear Rafal, Namaskar, This rule will apply if we take Saturn as lord of 7th, but Rahu is aspected by Jupiter, so is it not 7th lord for all purposes? Also, what is Dwi saptati? Respectfully, Michal. Om Namo Narayanaya --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme wrote: > II Hare Rama Krsna II > > Dear Michal, Supriti, > Namaskar, > > > Hare Rama Krsna > > > > Dear Supriti and list members, > > > > Rahu is seventh lord in mulatrikona with UL, so > > deviance can be expected from partner. The second > > house from UL shows the sustenance, and I would > guess > > her partner might buy her nice things, perfumes, > > flowers, to compensate. Perhaps she may have been > > aware of selling herself short since this same > > combination falls in the 12th from AL. She is > running > > Narayana dasa of Libra (giving results of Aries > with > > A7) which puts this Venus in the seventh from dasa > > rasi, about to be transitted by Jupiter next year. > > > Yes. We start Narayana Dasa from 7H so we take 7H > from Dasa Rasi in Maha Dasa analysis BUT when 7L is > in L or L is in 7H then this rule is out. So there > is Aries as Saturn is in Lagna. > > > > In Vimshottari dasa, Mercury antar begins next year, > as > > lord of UL. Things could go as already planned. > > Venus in Dwi-saptati, so some expenditures on > maintaince of marriage, > as Michal Ji wrote. > > Hope this helps, > with regards, > Rafal Gendarz > > > If I've missed something, I hope to be corrected. > > Respectfully, > > Michal. > > > > Om Namo Narayanaya > > > > --- Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 wrote: > > > >> Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members > >> > >> Thank you for looking into this. > >> > >> About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and > >> beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa > in > >> it. > >> > >> Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3 > >> years (to be married next year) was cheating on > her. > >> When do you think she will get married? > >> > >> Sincerely, > >> Supriti > >> > >> Samir Shah <solaris.smoke wrote: > >> || Hare Rama Krsna || > >> > >> Dear Rafal, Namaskar > >> > >> Thank you for the clarifications. Your point > about > >> the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation > is > >> not good for the houses it lords. > >> > >> I have just a couple of queries: > >> > >> 1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign > occupied > >> by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) > shows > >> the lesson that must be learned from the curse. > So > >> maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be > >> balanced and just towards others - specifically > >> lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle > >> correctly? > >> > >> 2. Guruji has also written in the past that the > >> houses lorded by the afflicted planet can > indicate > >> the area the curse will manifest, as well as the > >> houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the > curse. > >> So the question is, is there a way to determine > >> whether the effects will be seen in the houses > >> lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the > >> afflicting malefics? Or will it be both? > >> > >> Thank you, > >> > >> Samir > >> > >> > >> At 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: > >> > > > ______________________ > >> > >> Message: 10 > >> Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 > >> "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme > >> Re: Re: Curse of a spouse > >> > >> II Hare Rama Krsna II > >> Dear Samir, Supriti > >> > >> Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second > of > >> the lover. > >> Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are > >> attacked by the curse/s. > >> When they are two benefic's conjoins then we > choose > >> the higher benefic. > >> > >> Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness. > >> Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / > >> travels. > >> > >> Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as > >> obstacles are small, but > >> of course it is not so good for lordship. It is > like > >> Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some > planet > >> then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way > >> Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are > mixed > >> effects. > >> This is however how I understood this problems. > >> > >> Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, > >> which can give bad health, person is also > >> dominating. > >> > >> Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good > health, > >> but Lagna Lord is Sun > >> so person will be concious about getting good > >> medicine. > >> > >> > >> The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 > >> seconds before..so we must be careful. > >> > >> with regards, > >> Rafal Gendarz > >> > >> ~ om tat sat ~ > >> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the > Achyuta > >> Ashram. > >> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra > 'Hare > >> Rama Krishna' > >> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the > >> Great who said that the human stomach should not > >> become a graveyard for animals. > >> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one > >> free chart reading today > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Links > >> > >> > >> / > >> > >> To from this group, send an email > to: > >> > >> > >> Your use of is subject to the > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Sports > >> Rekindle the Rivalries. 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Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Michal Ji, Namaskar, 1. Yes, Rahu seems stronger, but Saturn is still 7L. Stronger doesnt mean exclusive. 2. Dwi saptati is one of the Conditional Udu dasas. (Applicable when LL is in 7H or 7H in L) Reference : - Vimshottari and Udu Dasas *Page 35 *Page 217-228. - BHPS Chapter 48/37-39 with regards, Rafal Gendarz - "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal > <> Sunday, June 19, 2005 3:05 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar,> > This rule will apply if we take Saturn as lord of 7th,> but Rahu is aspected by Jupiter, so is it not 7th lord> for all purposes? > Also, what is Dwi saptati?> > Respectfully,> Michal.> > Om Namo Narayanaya > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:> >> II Hare Rama Krsna II>> >> Dear Michal, Supriti,>> Namaskar,>> >> > Hare Rama Krsna >> > >> > Dear Supriti and list members,>> > >> > Rahu is seventh lord in mulatrikona with UL, so>> > deviance can be expected from partner. The second>> > house from UL shows the sustenance, and I would>> guess>> > her partner might buy her nice things, perfumes,>> > flowers, to compensate. Perhaps she may have been>> > aware of selling herself short since this same>> > combination falls in the 12th from AL. She is>> running>> > Narayana dasa of Libra (giving results of Aries>> with>> > A7) which puts this Venus in the seventh from dasa>> > rasi, about to be transitted by Jupiter next year.>> >> >> Yes. We start Narayana Dasa from 7H so we take 7H>> from Dasa Rasi in Maha Dasa analysis BUT when 7L is>> in L or L is in 7H then this rule is out. So there>> is Aries as Saturn is in Lagna.>> >> >> >> In Vimshottari dasa, Mercury antar begins next year,>> as>> > lord of UL. Things could go as already planned.>> >> Venus in Dwi-saptati, so some expenditures on>> maintaince of marriage,>> as Michal Ji wrote.>> >> Hope this helps,>> with regards,>> Rafal Gendarz>> >> > If I've missed something, I hope to be corrected.>> > Respectfully,>> > Michal.>> > >> > Om Namo Narayanaya >> > >> > --- Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 > wrote:>> > >> >> Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members>> >> >> >> Thank you for looking into this.>> >> >> >> About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and>> >> beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa>> in>> >> it. >> >> >> >> Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3>> >> years (to be married next year) was cheating on>> her.>> >> When do you think she will get married?>> >> >> >> Sincerely,>> >> Supriti>> >> >> >> Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote:>> >> || Hare Rama Krsna ||>> >> >> >> Dear Rafal, Namaskar>> >> >> >> Thank you for the clarifications. Your point>> about>> >> the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation>> is>> >> not good for the houses it lords. >> >> >> >> I have just a couple of queries:>> >> >> >> 1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign>> occupied>> >> by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus)>> shows>> >> the lesson that must be learned from the curse. >> So>> >> maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be>> >> balanced and just towards others - specifically>> >> lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle>> >> correctly?>> >> >> >> 2. Guruji has also written in the past that the>> >> houses lorded by the afflicted planet can>> indicate>> >> the area the curse will manifest, as well as the>> >> houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the>> curse. >> >> So the question is, is there a way to determine>> >> whether the effects will be seen in the houses>> >> lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the>> >> afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?>> >> >> >> Thank you,>> >> >> >> Samir>> >> >> >> >> >> At 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote:>> >>>> >>>> ______________________>> >> >> >> Message: 10 >> >> Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200>> >> "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>>> >> Re: Re: Curse of a spouse>> >> >> >> II Hare Rama Krsna II>> >> Dear Samir, Supriti>> >> >> >> Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second>> of>> >> the lover.>> >> Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are>> >> attacked by the curse/s.>> >> When they are two benefic's conjoins then we>> choose>> >> the higher benefic.>> >> >> >> Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.>> >> Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma />> >> travels.>> >> >> >> Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as>> >> obstacles are small, but>> >> of course it is not so good for lordship. It is>> like>> >> Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some>> planet>> >> then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way>> >> Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are>> mixed>> >> effects.>> >> This is however how I understood this problems.>> >> >> >> Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana,>> >> which can give bad health, person is also>> >> dominating.>> >> >> >> Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good>> health,>> >> but Lagna Lord is Sun>> >> so person will be concious about getting good>> >> medicine.>> >> >> >> >> >> The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30>> >> seconds before..so we must be careful. >> >> >> >> with regards,>> >> Rafal Gendarz>> >> >> >> ~ om tat sat ~>> >> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the>> Achyuta>> >> Ashram. >> >> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra>> 'Hare>> >> Rama Krishna'>> >> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the>> >> Great who said that the human stomach should not>> >> become a graveyard for animals.>> >> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one>> >> free chart reading today >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Links>> >> >> >> To visit your group on the web, go to:>> >> />> >> >> >> To from this group, send an email>> to:>> >> >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to the>> >> Terms of Service. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sports>> >> Rekindle the Rivalries. 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Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Rafal, Native can work hard at times, but she has a weak constitution so she gets tired very easily. She shies away from commiting to a relationship, but once she's in a relationship, she's not shy. SupritiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Supriti, I dont take Navamsa Lagna for how we look like, it is complicated and I am not sure about that, instead I take abilities. Saturn in Lagna can indicate that native can work very hard consistently. Saturn in Lagna also can mean that person is shy in relationships. with regards, Rafal Gendarz - Supriti Majumdar Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:32 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members Thank you for looking into this. About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa in it. Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3 years (to be married next year) was cheating on her. When do you think she will get married? Sincerely, Supriti Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal, NamaskarThank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries:1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly?2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Sports Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Dear Rafal, Michal, She has decided to call off the wedding due to her fiance's indiscretions. Are you saying that if she breaks off this relationship, she will still get married next year. Thank you. Sincerely, SupritiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Dear Michal Ji, Namaskar, 1. Yes, Rahu seems stronger, but Saturn is still 7L. Stronger doesnt mean exclusive. 2. Dwi saptati is one of the Conditional Udu dasas. (Applicable when LL is in 7H or 7H in L) Reference : - Vimshottari and Udu Dasas *Page 35 *Page 217-228. - BHPS Chapter 48/37-39 with regards, Rafal Gendarz - "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal > <> Sunday, June 19, 2005 3:05 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar,> > This rule will apply if we take Saturn as lord of 7th,> but Rahu is aspected by Jupiter, so is it not 7th lord> for all purposes? > Also, what is Dwi saptati?> > Respectfully,> Michal.> > Om Namo Narayanaya > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:> >> II Hare Rama Krsna II>> >> Dear Michal, Supriti,>> Namaskar,>> >> > Hare Rama Krsna >> > >> > Dear Supriti and list members,>> > >> > Rahu is seventh lord in mulatrikona with UL, so>> > deviance can be expected from partner. The second>> > house from UL shows the sustenance, and I would>> guess>> > her partner might buy her nice things, perfumes,>> > flowers, to compensate. Perhaps she may have been>> > aware of selling herself short since this same>> > combination falls in the 12th from AL. She is>> running>> > Narayana dasa of Libra (giving results of Aries>> with>> > A7) which puts this Venus in the seventh from dasa>> > rasi, about to be transitted by Jupiter next year.>> >> >> Yes. We start Narayana Dasa from 7H so we take 7H>> from Dasa Rasi in Maha Dasa analysis BUT when 7L is>> in L or L is in 7H then this rule is out. So there>> is Aries as Saturn is in Lagna.>> >> >> >> In Vimshottari dasa, Mercury antar begins next year,>> as>> > lord of UL. Things could go as already planned.>> >> Venus in Dwi-saptati, so some expenditures on>> maintaince of marriage,>> as Michal Ji wrote.>> >> Hope this helps,>> with regards,>> Rafal Gendarz>> >> > If I've missed something, I hope to be corrected.>> > Respectfully,>> > Michal.>> > >> > Om Namo Narayanaya >> > >> > --- Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 > wrote:>> > >> >> Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members>> >> >> >> Thank you for looking into this.>> >> >> >> About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and>> >> beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa>> in>> >> it. >> >> >> >> Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3>> >> years (to be married next year) was cheating on>> her.>> >> When do you think she will get married?>> >> >> >> Sincerely,>> >> Supriti>> >> >> >> Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote:>> >> || Hare Rama Krsna ||>> >> >> >> Dear Rafal, Namaskar>> >> >> >> Thank you for the clarifications. Your point>> about>> >> the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation>> is>> >> not good for the houses it lords. >> >> >> >> I have just a couple of queries:>> >> >> >> 1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign>> occupied>> >> by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus)>> shows>> >> the lesson that must be learned from the curse. >> So>> >> maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be>> >> balanced and just towards others - specifically>> >> lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle>> >> correctly?>> >> >> >> 2. Guruji has also written in the past that the>> >> houses lorded by the afflicted planet can>> indicate>> >> the area the curse will manifest, as well as the>> >> houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the>> curse. >> >> So the question is, is there a way to determine>> >> whether the effects will be seen in the houses>> >> lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the>> >> afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?>> >> >> >> Thank you,>> >> >> >> Samir>> >> >> >> >> >> At 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote:>> >>>> >>>> ______________________>> >> >> >> Message: 10 >> >> Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200>> >> "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>>> >> Re: Re: Curse of a spouse>> >> >> >> II Hare Rama Krsna II>> >> Dear Samir, Supriti>> >> >> >> Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second>> of>> >> the lover.>> >> Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are>> >> attacked by the curse/s.>> >> When they are two benefic's conjoins then we>> choose>> >> the higher benefic.>> >> >> >> Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.>> >> Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma />> >> travels.>> >> >> >> Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as>> >> obstacles are small, but>> >> of course it is not so good for lordship. It is>> like>> >> Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some>> planet>> >> then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way>> >> Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are>> mixed>> >> effects.>> >> This is however how I understood this problems.>> >> >> >> Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana,>> >> which can give bad health, person is also>> >> dominating.>> >> >> >> Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good>> health,>> >> but Lagna Lord is Sun>> >> so person will be concious about getting good>> >> medicine.>> >> >> >> >> >> The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30>> >> seconds before..so we must be careful. >> >> >> >> with regards,>> >> Rafal Gendarz>> >> >> >> ~ om tat sat ~>> >> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the>> Achyuta>> >> Ashram. >> >> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra>> 'Hare>> >> Rama Krishna'>> >> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the>> >> Great who said that the human stomach should not>> >> become a graveyard for animals.>> >> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one>> >> free chart reading today >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Links>> >> >> >> To visit your group on the web, go to:>> >> />> >> >> >> To from this group, send an email>> to:>> >> >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to the>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sports>> >> Rekindle the Rivalries. 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Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Supriti, Weak constitution is from Saturn in Lagna, Lagnesh with planet in Marana Karaka Sthana and Dispositor debilitated. However if she can work hard (not neccesarily physically) and is shy & reserved and orthodox in relationships then I would stay with Capricorn Lagna in Navamsa. with regards Rafal Gendarz - Supriti Majumdar Monday, June 20, 2005 3:20 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse |OM KRISHNA GURU| Dear Rafal, Native can work hard at times, but she has a weak constitution so she gets tired very easily. She shies away from commiting to a relationship, but once she's in a relationship, she's not shy. SupritiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Supriti, I dont take Navamsa Lagna for how we look like, it is complicated and I am not sure about that, instead I take abilities. Saturn in Lagna can indicate that native can work very hard consistently. Saturn in Lagna also can mean that person is shy in relationships. with regards, Rafal Gendarz - Supriti Majumdar Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:32 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members Thank you for looking into this. About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa in it. Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3 years (to be married next year) was cheating on her. When do you think she will get married? Sincerely, Supriti Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal, NamaskarThank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries:1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly?2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Supriti: Sorry for mistypo. Not Capricorn but Taurus. She had also Moon in Kona, so singing or Yoga should be one of her natural traits. with regards, Rafal Gendarz - Supriti Majumdar Monday, June 20, 2005 3:20 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse |OM KRISHNA GURU| Dear Rafal, Native can work hard at times, but she has a weak constitution so she gets tired very easily. She shies away from commiting to a relationship, but once she's in a relationship, she's not shy. SupritiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Supriti, I dont take Navamsa Lagna for how we look like, it is complicated and I am not sure about that, instead I take abilities. Saturn in Lagna can indicate that native can work very hard consistently. Saturn in Lagna also can mean that person is shy in relationships. with regards, Rafal Gendarz - Supriti Majumdar Sunday, June 19, 2005 1:32 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members Thank you for looking into this. About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa in it. Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3 years (to be married next year) was cheating on her. When do you think she will get married? Sincerely, Supriti Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote: || Hare Rama Krsna ||Dear Rafal, NamaskarThank you for the clarifications. Your point about the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation is not good for the houses it lords. I have just a couple of queries:1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign occupied by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus) shows the lesson that must be learned from the curse. So maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be balanced and just towards others - specifically lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle correctly?2. Guruji has also written in the past that the houses lorded by the afflicted planet can indicate the area the curse will manifest, as well as the houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the curse. So the question is, is there a way to determine whether the effects will be seen in the houses lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?Thank you,SamirAt 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote: ______________________Message: 10 Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200 "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>Re: Re: Curse of a spouseII Hare Rama Krsna IIDear Samir, SupritiYes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover.Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s.When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic.Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels.Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, butof course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects.This is however how I understood this problems.Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating.Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sunso person will be concious about getting good medicine.The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. with regards,Rafal Gendarz~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Supriti, I see a chance from April 2006, as Dwi-Saptati and Vimshottari would give planet in Trikona to 2H in D-9, and Narayana Dasa give a sign which is aspected by Venus. To 2010 She must get married as her Narayana Pravesh Chakra has Srimanth Yoga which usually gives marriage. with regards, Rafal Gendarz - Supriti Majumdar Monday, June 20, 2005 3:26 AM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse |Om Gurave Namah| Dear Rafal, Michal, She has decided to call off the wedding due to her fiance's indiscretions. Are you saying that if she breaks off this relationship, she will still get married next year. Thank you. Sincerely, SupritiRafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote: Dear Michal Ji, Namaskar, 1. Yes, Rahu seems stronger, but Saturn is still 7L. Stronger doesnt mean exclusive. 2. Dwi saptati is one of the Conditional Udu dasas. (Applicable when LL is in 7H or 7H in L) Reference : - Vimshottari and Udu Dasas *Page 35 *Page 217-228. - BHPS Chapter 48/37-39 with regards, Rafal Gendarz - "Michal Dziwulski" <nearmichal > <> Sunday, June 19, 2005 3:05 PM Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Curse of a spouse > Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Rafal, Namaskar,> > This rule will apply if we take Saturn as lord of 7th,> but Rahu is aspected by Jupiter, so is it not 7th lord> for all purposes? > Also, what is Dwi saptati?> > Respectfully,> Michal.> > Om Namo Narayanaya > > --- Rafal Gendarz <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl> wrote:> >> II Hare Rama Krsna II>> >> Dear Michal, Supriti,>> Namaskar,>> >> > Hare Rama Krsna >> > >> > Dear Supriti and list members,>> > >> > Rahu is seventh lord in mulatrikona with UL, so>> > deviance can be expected from partner. The second>> > house from UL shows the sustenance, and I would>> guess>> > her partner might buy her nice things, perfumes,>> > flowers, to compensate. Perhaps she may have been>> > aware of selling herself short since this same>> > combination falls in the 12th from AL. She is>> running>> > Narayana dasa of Libra (giving results of Aries>> with>> > A7) which puts this Venus in the seventh from dasa>> > rasi, about to be transitted by Jupiter next year.>> >> >> Yes. We start Narayana Dasa from 7H so we take 7H>> from Dasa Rasi in Maha Dasa analysis BUT when 7L is>> in L or L is in 7H then this rule is out. So there>> is Aries as Saturn is in Lagna.>> >> >> >> In Vimshottari dasa, Mercury antar begins next year,>> as>> > lord of UL. Things could go as already planned.>> >> Venus in Dwi-saptati, so some expenditures on>> maintaince of marriage,>> as Michal Ji wrote.>> >> Hope this helps,>> with regards,>> Rafal Gendarz>> >> > If I've missed something, I hope to be corrected.>> > Respectfully,>> > Michal.>> > >> > Om Namo Narayanaya >> > >> > --- Supriti Majumdar <supriti15 > wrote:>> > >> >> Dear Rafal, Samir and List Members>> >> >> >> Thank you for looking into this.>> >> >> >> About Navamsa Lagna: Native is extremely fair and>> >> beautiful. Can she be fair with Ta lagna and Sa>> in>> >> it. >> >> >> >> Also, recently she found out that her fiance of 3>> >> years (to be married next year) was cheating on>> her.>> >> When do you think she will get married?>> >> >> >> Sincerely,>> >> Supriti>> >> >> >> Samir Shah <solaris.smoke > wrote:>> >> || Hare Rama Krsna ||>> >> >> >> Dear Rafal, Namaskar>> >> >> >> Thank you for the clarifications. Your point>> about>> >> the badhakesh makes sense - so Mars' debilitation>> is>> >> not good for the houses it lords. >> >> >> >> I have just a couple of queries:>> >> >> >> 1. I remember Guruji writing that the sign>> occupied>> >> by the afflicted planet (in this case Venus)>> shows>> >> the lesson that must be learned from the curse. >> So>> >> maybe for Libra, the person needs to learn to be>> >> balanced and just towards others - specifically>> >> lovers/spouse. Have I understood this principle>> >> correctly?>> >> >> >> 2. Guruji has also written in the past that the>> >> houses lorded by the afflicted planet can>> indicate>> >> the area the curse will manifest, as well as the>> >> houses lorded by the malefics inflicting the>> curse. >> >> So the question is, is there a way to determine>> >> whether the effects will be seen in the houses>> >> lorded by the afflicted planet itself, or by the>> >> afflicting malefics? Or will it be both?>> >> >> >> Thank you,>> >> >> >> Samir>> >> >> >> >> >> At 23:37 17/06/2005, you wrote:>> >>>> >>>> ______________________>> >> >> >> Message: 10 >> >> Fri, 17 Jun 2005 13:04:06 +0200>> >> "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme (AT) wp (DOT) pl>>> >> Re: Re: Curse of a spouse>> >> >> >> II Hare Rama Krsna II>> >> Dear Samir, Supriti>> >> >> >> Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second>> of>> >> the lover.>> >> Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are>> >> attacked by the curse/s.>> >> When they are two benefic's conjoins then we>> choose>> >> the higher benefic.>> >> >> >> Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness.>> >> Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma />> >> travels.>> >> >> >> Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as>> >> obstacles are small, but>> >> of course it is not so good for lordship. It is>> like>> >> Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some>> planet>> >> then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way>> >> Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are>> mixed>> >> effects.>> >> This is however how I understood this problems.>> >> >> >> Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana,>> >> which can give bad health, person is also>> >> dominating.>> >> >> >> Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good>> health,>> >> but Lagna Lord is Sun>> >> so person will be concious about getting good>> >> medicine.>> >> >> >> >> >> The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30>> >> seconds before..so we must be careful. >> >> >> >> with regards,>> >> Rafal Gendarz>> >> >> >> ~ om tat sat ~>> >> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the>> Achyuta>> >> Ashram. >> >> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra>> 'Hare>> >> Rama Krishna'>> >> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the>> >> Great who said that the human stomach should not>> >> become a graveyard for animals.>> >> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one>> >> free chart reading today >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Links>> >> >> >> To visit your group on the web, go to:>> >> />> >> >> >> To from this group, send an email>> to:>> >> >> >> >> >> Your use of is subject to the>> >> Terms of Service. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Sports>> >> Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy>> > Football>> > >> > >> > >> > >> > === message truncated ===> > > > > __ > Sports > Rekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football > http://football.fantasysports.> > > ~ om tat sat ~> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today > Links> > <*> To visit your group on the web, go to:> /> > <*> To from this group, send an email to:> > > <*> Your > > > > > > ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today SportsRekindle the Rivalries. Sign up for Fantasy Football ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 || Hare Rama Krsna || Dear Rafal, Namaskar I can't answer this querry as I dont heard about it. I know only about the lessons which are described by the karaka of the planet. Venus - be careful in relationship with opposite sex. Jupiter - be careful about Your attitude towards Guru etc. Thanks - I'll stick to that for now. I'll try and dig out the posts where Guruji used this method. I also have a curse - of Guru - in my chart. Jupiter is afflicted by Mars and Saturn, and I'm currently running Saturn Moola Dasa . Thanks for the VRA reference - I have to read it several more times before everything goes in. In that example and a few others, Sanjayji only uses the houses lorded by Saturn to see where the results will be - so in Sri Rama's case the houses lorded by Saturn showed the results. But Mars is also causing the curse and Aries/Scorpio did not manifest the curse... so are we to take the more malefic planet (from all the ones that are afflicting) and use that? Or does it depend on which malefic is stronger? Thanks for all your help, Samir Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2005 Report Share Posted June 20, 2005 Hi Rafal, Is it must that atleast two out of Ra,Sa and Mars have graha drishti on Venus for curse of spouse to manifest ? I remember Visti pointing out the same for me too but I dont satisfy the above condition. My chart details are 27 July,76 6:25am, India (76e47,30n44). Regards, Sameer , "Rafal Gendarz" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > II Hare Rama Krsna II > Dear Samir, Supriti > > Yes. Here is two curses one of the mother, second of the lover. > Lordships of Malefics will tell which areas are attacked by the curse/s. > When they are two benefic's conjoins then we choose the higher benefic. > > Saturn/Rahu - problems in relationships/buisness. > Mars - problem in home/education , Guru, dharma / travels. > > Malefics when weak are good in dushtana's as obstacles are small, but > of course it is not so good for lordship. It is like Badhakesh in 12 is good but when conjoin some planet then lordship of this planet is bad, the same way Badhakesh when exalted is better. So this are mixed effects. > This is however how I understood this problems. > > Saturn in Lagna in D-1 gives problem with Prana, which can give bad health, person is also dominating. > > Argala of Rahu is also not helping in good health, but Lagna Lord is Sun > so person will be concious about getting good medicine. > > > The Saturn in Navamsa Lagna....Lagna changes 30 seconds before..so we must be careful. > > with regards, > Rafal Gendarz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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