Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Dear Vistiji, Namaskar When looking for Arudha of Bhava placed in Scorpio or Aquarius -with the recommended settings in Preferences\Related to calculations\Arudha Pada...- I don't get constantly the expected results. For instance, in Gurudeva's rasi chart, Jhora gives UL in Sg when it should be in Libra. Is there an other otions panel related to strenghth evaluation I missed somewhere in the program? Thank you very much for your help. Kindest regards, Pierre-Olivier Loisel P.S. My apology to all for my hasty post concerning a note in VRA. The solution is page 345. , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote: > ||Hare Rama Krsna|| > > Dear Samir, Namaskar > > This does happen - you are right, but usually one at a time. Look for the > Upapada or seventh house placed in Scorpio or Aquarius - these people will > be met with the choice of marrying two women. If both lords are strong, the > choice might be hard. > > Ketu in the seventh house can make a person have two wives at the same time. > > Best wishes, > > *** > > Visti Larsen Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 II Hare Rama Krsna II Dear Pierre-Olivier, Aquarius and Scorpio has two lording Grahas : 1. For Aquarius - Saturn and Rahu 2. For Scorpio - Mars and Ketu with regards, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Dear Rafal, I know this. My concern is when JHora indicates Saturn whereas Rahu is stronger according to our parampara teachings. Thank you anyway. Regards Pierre-Olivier Loisel , "Stars" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > II Hare Rama Krsna II > Dear Pierre-Olivier, > > Aquarius and Scorpio has two lording Grahas : > > 1. For Aquarius - Saturn and Rahu > 2. For Scorpio - Mars and Ketu > > > > with regards, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Dear Pierre-Olivier, In case of Pt.Sanjay Rath : 12H is Aquarius. Aquarius has two lords, one is in Capricron -> UL in Sag. ------------------------one is in Gemini -> UL in Lib. Rules for strength (I was using when I didnt have Full version) 1. If Rahu/Sat is in that sign take other Lord. 2. Number of planets wins. 3. Jup/Merc/Lord aspecting. 4. Exalted wins 5. Dual>Fixed>Movable sign. 6. More Years in Dasa. 7. More longitude. So : 1. This rule is not applicable 2. This rule is 1:1 3. Sa is aspected by Mercury and is Lord himself so 2. Rahu is aspected by Jupiter so 1. Then Saturn is stronger hence UL in Saggitarius seems stronger. Second point : Saturn is AK. with regards, Rafal > > , "Stars" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > > II Hare Rama Krsna II > > Dear Pierre-Olivier, > > > > Aquarius and Scorpio has two lording Grahas : > > > > 1. For Aquarius - Saturn and Rahu > > 2. For Scorpio - Mars and Ketu > > > > > > > > with regards, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Dear Rafal, In case of Pt. Sanjay Rath: 12H is Aq; Rahu in exaltation in dual sign aspected by Jupiter from lagna is stronger than Saturn though aspected by Mercury. This is pure Sanjayji's teaching. Warm regards, Pierre-Olivier Loisel , "Rafal" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > Dear Pierre-Olivier, > > In case of Pt.Sanjay Rath : > > 12H is Aquarius. > > Aquarius has two lords, one is in Capricron -> UL in Sag. > ------------------------one is in Gemini -> UL in Lib. > > Rules for strength (I was using when I didnt have Full version) > > 1. If Rahu/Sat is in that sign take other Lord. > 2. Number of planets wins. > 3. Jup/Merc/Lord aspecting. > 4. Exalted wins > 5. Dual>Fixed>Movable sign. > 6. More Years in Dasa. > 7. More longitude. > > So : > > 1. This rule is not applicable > 2. This rule is 1:1 > 3. > Sa is aspected by Mercury and is Lord himself so 2. > Rahu is aspected by Jupiter so 1. > Then Saturn is stronger hence UL in Saggitarius seems stronger. > > Second point : Saturn is AK. > > with regards, Rafal > > > > > > > > > > > , "Stars" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > > > II Hare Rama Krsna II > > > Dear Pierre-Olivier, > > > > > > Aquarius and Scorpio has two lording Grahas : > > > > > > 1. For Aquarius - Saturn and Rahu > > > 2. For Scorpio - Mars and Ketu > > > > > > > > > > > > with regards, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| Dear Pierre and List Members, Namaskaar. Allow me to share my understanding... In case of GuruDev's chart, one could also consider : Saturn (male) in an even sign (feminine) <The strength of Purush and Prakriti coming together> ....as compared to... Rahu (a shadow, adapting to the environment) in Gemini (masculine sign) On another note, despite the strengths, one should consider the effects of both. Best wishes, Nitin. || Namah Shivaaya || -- "Pierre-Olivier Loisel" <poloisel Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:45:18 -0000 >Dear Rafal, > >In case of Pt. Sanjay Rath: > >12H is Aq; Rahu in exaltation in dual sign aspected by Jupiter from >lagna is stronger than Saturn though aspected by Mercury. >This is pure Sanjayji's teaching. > >Warm regards, > >Pierre-Olivier Loisel > >, "Rafal" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: >> Dear Pierre-Olivier, >> >> In case of Pt.Sanjay Rath : >> >> 12H is Aquarius. >> >> Aquarius has two lords, one is in Capricron -> UL in Sag. >> ------------------------one is in Gemini -> UL in Lib. >> >> Rules for strength (I was using when I didnt have Full version) >> >> 1. If Rahu/Sat is in that sign take other Lord. >> 2. Number of planets wins. >> 3. Jup/Merc/Lord aspecting. >> 4. Exalted wins >> 5. Dual>Fixed>Movable sign. >> 6. More Years in Dasa. >> 7. More longitude. >> >> So : >> >> 1. This rule is not applicable >> 2. This rule is 1:1 >> 3. >> Sa is aspected by Mercury and is Lord himself so 2. >> Rahu is aspected by Jupiter so 1. >> Then Saturn is stronger hence UL in Saggitarius seems stronger. >> >> Second point : Saturn is AK. >> >> with regards, Rafal ______________ Sent via the WebMail system at justnitin.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Dear Nitin, I stick to what I can grasp from Sanjayji. He is very clear on his UL in Libra as an illustration of the rules pertaining to arudhas calculation. On the other hand I rely on Narasimha's extraordinary program. Then I noticed a discrepancy. I may have done something wrong and I was just asking in poor English for the proper settings. My question remains: how can i get Gurudev UL in Libra with Jhora? Kind regards, Pierre-Olivier Loisel , "Nitin" <sjvc@j...> wrote: > ||| Hare Rama Krishna ||| > > Dear Pierre and List Members, Namaskaar. > > Allow me to share my understanding... > > > In case of GuruDev's chart, one could also consider : > > Saturn (male) in an even sign (feminine) > <The strength of Purush and Prakriti coming together> > > ...as compared to... > > Rahu (a shadow, adapting to the environment) in Gemini (masculine sign) > > On another note, despite the strengths, one should consider the effects of both. > > Best wishes, > Nitin. > > || Namah Shivaaya || > > > -- > "Pierre-Olivier Loisel" <poloisel@a...> > > Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:45:18 -0000 > > >Dear Rafal, > > > >In case of Pt. Sanjay Rath: > > > >12H is Aq; Rahu in exaltation in dual sign aspected by Jupiter from > >lagna is stronger than Saturn though aspected by Mercury. > >This is pure Sanjayji's teaching. > > > >Warm regards, > > > >Pierre-Olivier Loisel > > > >, "Rafal" <starsuponme@w...> wrote: > >> Dear Pierre-Olivier, > >> > >> In case of Pt.Sanjay Rath : > >> > >> 12H is Aquarius. > >> > >> Aquarius has two lords, one is in Capricron -> UL in Sag. > >> ------------------------one is in Gemini -> UL in Lib. > >> > >> Rules for strength (I was using when I didnt have Full version) > >> > >> 1. If Rahu/Sat is in that sign take other Lord. > >> 2. Number of planets wins. > >> 3. Jup/Merc/Lord aspecting. > >> 4. Exalted wins > >> 5. Dual>Fixed>Movable sign. > >> 6. More Years in Dasa. > >> 7. More longitude. > >> > >> So : > >> > >> 1. This rule is not applicable > >> 2. This rule is 1:1 > >> 3. > >> Sa is aspected by Mercury and is Lord himself so 2. > >> Rahu is aspected by Jupiter so 1. > >> Then Saturn is stronger hence UL in Saggitarius seems stronger. > >> > >> Second point : Saturn is AK. > >> > >> with regards, Rafal > > > > > ______________ > Sent via the WebMail system at justnitin.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2005 Report Share Posted June 9, 2005 Jaya Jagannatha Dear Pierre These options have not been given in the JHora as yet and will come soon after Narasimha has so many other priorities on Ayanamsa etc done. Ensure that you make a detailed request like a wish list and send it to him personally. He is a virgo lagna perfectionist - we don't have to worry, he will do it. Don't make any *venus* related requests like having beautiful charts and great graphics...from what I understand of him, the JHora shall remain austere as it it is his offering to the Lord. With best wishes and warm regards, Sanjay Rath * * * Sri Jagannath Center® 15B Gangaram Hospital Road New Delhi 110060, India http://srath.com, +91-11-25717162 * * * Pierre-Olivier Loisel [poloisel (AT) aol (DOT) com] Friday, June 10, 2005 6:21 AMSubject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Arudha Pada Calculation in JH72 Dear Nitin,I stick to what I can grasp from Sanjayji. He is very clear on his UL in Libra as an illustration of the rules pertaining to arudhas calculation. On the other hand I rely on Narasimha's extraordinary program. Then I noticed a discrepancy. I may have done something wrong and I was just asking in poor English for the proper settings. My question remains: how can i get Gurudev UL in Libra with Jhora?Kind regards,Pierre-Olivier Loisel--- In , "Nitin" <sjvc@j...> wrote:> ||| Hare Rama Krishna |||> > Dear Pierre and List Members, Namaskaar. > > Allow me to share my understanding...> > > In case of GuruDev's chart, one could also consider :> > Saturn (male) in an even sign (feminine)> <The strength of Purush and Prakriti coming together>> > ...as compared to...> > Rahu (a shadow, adapting to the environment) in Gemini (masculine sign)> > On another note, despite the strengths, one should consider the effects of both. > > Best wishes, > Nitin.> > || Namah Shivaaya ||> > > ---------- Original Message -> "Pierre-Olivier Loisel" <poloisel@a...>> > Thu, 09 Jun 2005 22:45:18 -0000> > >Dear Rafal,> >> >In case of Pt. Sanjay Rath:> >> >12H is Aq; Rahu in exaltation in dual sign aspected by Jupiter from > >lagna is stronger than Saturn though aspected by Mercury.> >This is pure Sanjayji's teaching.> >> >Warm regards,> >> >Pierre-Olivier Loisel> >> >--- In , "Rafal" <starsuponme@w...> wrote:> >> Dear Pierre-Olivier,> >> > >> In case of Pt.Sanjay Rath :> >> > >> 12H is Aquarius.> >> > >> Aquarius has two lords, one is in Capricron -> UL in Sag.> >> ------------------------one is in Gemini -> UL in Lib.> >> > >> Rules for strength (I was using when I didnt have Full version)> >> > >> 1. If Rahu/Sat is in that sign take other Lord.> >> 2. Number of planets wins.> >> 3. Jup/Merc/Lord aspecting.> >> 4. Exalted wins> >> 5. Dual>Fixed>Movable sign.> >> 6. More Years in Dasa.> >> 7. More longitude.> >> > >> So :> >> > >> 1. This rule is not applicable> >> 2. This rule is 1:1> >> 3. > >> Sa is aspected by Mercury and is Lord himself so 2.> >> Rahu is aspected by Jupiter so 1. > >> Then Saturn is stronger hence UL in Saggitarius seems stronger.> >> > >> Second point : Saturn is AK.> >> > >> with regards, Rafal > > > > > ______________> Sent via the WebMail system at justnitin.com~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Dear Pierre-Olivier, 1. It is often method to look at two arudhas, but here when we look at point "Jupiter/Mercury/Lord", we see that Saturn has 2 points, while Mercury has 1 point. Exaltation/non-exaltation is thing we look further. with regards, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Dear Pierre-Olivier, So can You tell us why Pt.Sanjay Rath place His UL in Libra, because these rules are important basis for Narayana Dasa also. with regards, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2005 Report Share Posted June 10, 2005 Dear Pierre-Olivier, There should be Rahu not mercury. Sorry for mistake. with regards, Rafal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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