Asura Yoga (Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a nation)

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|| Om Krsna Guru ||

Dear Vistiji, Namaskar

I love reading your chart analyses; they are wonderful for

learning.

I have read quite about this form of Asura Yoga in the archives - with

Jupiter in the 8th in Rasi chart. I just realised I have the same -

but in Navamsa, and Jupiter is exalted there (i.e., Sagittarius

Lagnamsa). I think I can figure out what the results of this might

be with respect to marriage, but could you kindly explain what the effect

might be as seen with respect to the Rasi chart?

Pranaam,

Samir

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Sat, 28 May 2005 12:27:18 +0200

"Visti Larsen"

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RE: Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a nation

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Justin, Namaskar

Does Ms Corby have a fiance or boyfriend?

 

Heres why i ask; She has Jupiter in the eighth house forming a type of

Asura

Yoga. Such people tend to challenge the law or the moral-code of

soceity.

This is more so since Jupiter is Atmakaraka. Now watch how the

scenario

unfolds around this atmakaraka.

Jupiter is joined the lagna lord showing that she is not one to disobey

the

moral-code, but is rather a reformer. Also because of the lagnesha's

placement, Jupiter falls in the sixth from arudha lagna, showing a

peaceloving person who exists in a society/community which doesn't obey

the

laws of soceity. Did you also notice a Kala Sarpa Yoga in the chart?

This

will further confirm the natives community/soceity.

 

Now look more at this Jupiter; Mars is joined whilst Rahu aspects

indicating

a curse of a brahmin, and being that Rahu is in trines to AK and Mars

is

joined, this can cause bondage and deprivation of freedom.

The ninth house shows our freedom, and is occupied by the badhakesh -

Sun,

again promoting bondage.

 

Go back to Jupiter; the Upapada is joined it, so the

spouse/partner/fiance

may have provoked this event to happen. Her own actions were involved

as

Lagnesha is joined the combination - this is the most unfortunate

part.

 

Timing is easy if you use Narayana Dasa - Maha Dasa was of Libra (but

acting

like Aries) whose lord is placed in the eighth house with Jupiter.

The

antara dasa is ALWAYS recieving Rasi dristi of Rahu, and in this case it

was

Gemini Antara, who not only is aspected by Rahu but i also joined

the

badhakesh.

 

With Vimshottari you have to look carefully; Moon mahadasa is running and

is

in a nakshatra parivartana with Venus, so Moon is going to give the

results

of fame, recognition, etc. But this is resulting in change of

community/friends/family, with focus on incarceration (Venus).

The antara dasa is easy; Jupiter.

 

When the Narayana Dasa changes in July, people will be fighting for

her

freedom, and she is likely to experience better circumstances.

 

Best wishes,

***

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Dear Samir,

Namaskar

The Asuras

are those which are agains the Sura’s (followers of surya). These are

those who don’t believe in the rulership of the King (Sun), compassion of

the Queen (Moon) and the laws founded by the judges (Jupiter). You would note

that the three sattvic planets are listed out, and are the upholders of sattva

guna in soceity.

Sooo... When

either of the Sattvic grahas are in the eighth house (hidden/disapeared) the

Asura Yoga is formed. Each planet signifies something different, i.e. Jupiter

specifically deals with the law and moral code. But this does NOT mean that the

native born with this is an Asura.

 

In all

cases it means that the native is born in a community of Asuras, i.e. in the

case of Schapelle Corby, i did some reading and found that her own father had

previously been charged with the posession of drugs. If you do some digging you

will find others in her social circle who have had some big problems with the

law, or who have challenged the moral code. Reformers of laws and religions have

been born with Asura Yoga.

 

As far as

the native is concerned, you must look at the lagnesha and arudha lagna, and

see the placement of Jupiter/Sun/Moon therefrom to analyse the native’s

own disposition towards this yoga... i.e. do they support it or reject it.

In the case

of Schapelle Jupiter is joined the lagnesha, so normally we would NOT expect

her to be an asuric person. Also Jupiter falls in the sixth from arudha lagna,

and she is definitely a peace-loving person and one who believes in the law and

good moral conduct.

 

Because of

the importance of arudha lagna, those people with Sagittarius or Pisces lagna,

having Jupiter in the eighth, do not have an Asura Yoga... reason is that Jupiter

would fall in the sixth from arudha lagna, and a peaceloving person is born.

Best

wishes,

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30 May 2005 09:19

 

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Asura Yoga (Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a nation)

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|| Om

Krsna Guru ||

Dear Vistiji, Namaskar

I love reading your chart analyses; they are wonderful for learning.

I have read quite about this form of Asura Yoga in the archives - with Jupiter

in the 8th in Rasi chart. I just realised I have the same - but in

Navamsa, and Jupiter is exalted there (i.e., Sagittarius Lagnamsa). I

think I can figure out what the results of this might be with respect to

marriage, but could you kindly explain what the effect might be as seen with

respect to the Rasi chart?

Pranaam,

Samir

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Message: 10

Sat, 28 May 2005 12:27:18 +0200

"Visti Larsen" <visti (AT) (DOT) org>

RE: Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a nation

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Justin, Namaskar

Does Ms Corby have a fiance or boyfriend?

 

Heres why i ask; She has Jupiter in the eighth house forming a type of Asura

Yoga. Such people tend to challenge the law or the moral-code of soceity.

This is more so since Jupiter is Atmakaraka. Now watch how the scenario

unfolds around this atmakaraka.

Jupiter is joined the lagna lord showing that she is not one to disobey the

moral-code, but is rather a reformer. Also because of the lagnesha's

placement, Jupiter falls in the sixth from arudha lagna, showing a

peaceloving person who exists in a society/community which doesn't obey the

laws of soceity. Did you also notice a Kala Sarpa Yoga in the chart? This

will further confirm the natives community/soceity.

 

Now look more at this Jupiter; Mars is joined whilst Rahu aspects indicating

a curse of a brahmin, and being that Rahu is in trines to AK and Mars is

joined, this can cause bondage and deprivation of freedom.

The ninth house shows our freedom, and is occupied by the badhakesh - Sun,

again promoting bondage.

 

Go back to Jupiter; the Upapada is joined it, so the spouse/partner/fiance

may have provoked this event to happen. Her own actions were involved as

Lagnesha is joined the combination - this is the most unfortunate part.

 

Timing is easy if you use Narayana Dasa - Maha Dasa was of Libra (but acting

like Aries) whose lord is placed in the eighth house with Jupiter. The

antara dasa is ALWAYS recieving Rasi dristi of Rahu, and in this case it was

Gemini Antara, who not only is aspected by Rahu but i also joined the

badhakesh.

 

With Vimshottari you have to look carefully; Moon mahadasa is running and is

in a nakshatra parivartana with Venus, so Moon is going to give the results

of fame, recognition, etc. But this is resulting in change of

community/friends/family, with focus on incarceration (Venus).

The antara dasa is easy; Jupiter.

 

When the Narayana Dasa changes in July, people will be fighting for her

freedom, and she is likely to experience better circumstances.

 

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

Email: <

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com> visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

Web: <

http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com

& <

http://astrovisti.com>

http://astrovisti.com

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Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

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Dear Samir, Visti, and list members,

 

just to share my experience, because this dialogue has cleared some things for

myself also. I have Jupiter in the 8th from lagna with lagnesh, and therefore

6th from Arudha lagna. My father was declared bankrupt and was wanted by the

police before he fled the country and dissapeared when I was still a child.

Many people I have associated with in my life have been cheats, liars, thieves,

involved with the police, been arrested, or are currently in jail. I have

counted myself lucky to not be amongst them now, and have learnt much from my

friendships with such people. Though much toned down now, I still seem to

attract people who are somewhat on the outskirts of the normal run of law and

accepted social conduct. Perhaps I understand a little better now why this

happens.

 

Respectfully,

Michal.

 

Om Namo Narayanaya Visti Larsen <visti (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Samir, Namaskar

The Asuras are those which are agains the Sura’s (followers of surya). These are

those who don’t believe in the rulership of the King (Sun), compassion of the

Queen (Moon) and the laws founded by the judges (Jupiter). You would note that

the three sattvic planets are listed out, and are the upholders of sattva guna

in soceity.

Sooo... When either of the Sattvic grahas are in the eighth house

(hidden/disapeared) the Asura Yoga is formed. Each planet signifies something

different, i.e. Jupiter specifically deals with the law and moral code. But

this does NOT mean that the native born with this is an Asura.

 

In all cases it means that the native is born in a community of Asuras, i.e. in

the case of Schapelle Corby, i did some reading and found that her own father

had previously been charged with the posession of drugs. If you do some digging

you will find others in her social circle who have had some big problems with

the law, or who have challenged the moral code. Reformers of laws and religions

have been born with Asura Yoga.

 

As far as the native is concerned, you must look at the lagnesha and arudha

lagna, and see the placement of Jupiter/Sun/Moon therefrom to analyse the

native’s own disposition towards this yoga... i.e. do they support it or reject

it.

In the case of Schapelle Jupiter is joined the lagnesha, so normally we would

NOT expect her to be an asuric person. Also Jupiter falls in the sixth from

arudha lagna, and she is definitely a peace-loving person and one who believes

in the law and good moral conduct.

 

Because of the importance of arudha lagna, those people with Sagittarius or

Pisces lagna, having Jupiter in the eighth, do not have an Asura Yoga... reason

is that Jupiter would fall in the sixth from arudha lagna, and a peaceloving

person is born.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com

***

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Behalf Of Samir Shah30 May 2005 09:19To:

Subject: [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Asura Yoga

(Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a nation)

 

|| Om Krsna Guru ||Dear Vistiji, NamaskarI love reading your chart analyses;

they are wonderful for learning.I have read quite about this form of Asura Yoga

in the archives - with Jupiter in the 8th in Rasi chart. I just realised I have

the same - but in Navamsa, and Jupiter is exalted there (i.e., Sagittarius

Lagnamsa). I think I can figure out what the results of this might be with

respect to marriage, but could you kindly explain what the effect might be as

seen with respect to the Rasi chart?Pranaam,Samir

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10 Sat, 28 May 2005 12:27:18 +0200 "Visti Larsen"

<visti (AT) (DOT) org>RE: Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a

nation||Hare Rama Krsna||Dear Justin, NamaskarDoes Ms Corby have a fiance or

boyfriend? Heres why i ask; She has Jupiter in the eighth house forming a type

of AsuraYoga. Such people tend to challenge the law or the moral-code of

soceity.This is more so since Jupiter is Atmakaraka. Now watch how the

scenariounfolds around this atmakaraka.Jupiter is joined the lagna lord showing

that she is not one to disobey themoral-code, but is rather a reformer. Also

because of the lagnesha'splacement, Jupiter falls in the sixth from

arudha lagna, showing apeaceloving person who exists in a society/community

which doesn't obey thelaws of soceity. Did you also notice a Kala Sarpa Yoga in

the chart? Thiswill further confirm the natives community/soceity. Now look more

at this Jupiter; Mars is joined whilst Rahu aspects indicatinga curse of a

brahmin, and being that Rahu is in trines to AK and Mars isjoined, this can

cause bondage and deprivation of freedom.The ninth house shows our freedom, and

is occupied by the badhakesh - Sun,again promoting bondage. Go back to Jupiter;

the Upapada is joined it, so the spouse/partner/fiancemay have provoked this

event to happen. Her own actions were involved asLagnesha is joined the

combination - this is the most unfortunate part. Timing is easy if you use

Narayana Dasa - Maha Dasa was of Libra (but actinglike Aries) whose lord is

placed in the eighth house with Jupiter.

Theantara dasa is ALWAYS recieving Rasi dristi of Rahu, and in this case it

wasGemini Antara, who not only is aspected by Rahu but i also joined

thebadhakesh. With Vimshottari you have to look carefully; Moon mahadasa is

running and isin a nakshatra parivartana with Venus, so Moon is going to give

the resultsof fame, recognition, etc. But this is resulting in change

ofcommunity/friends/family, with focus on incarceration (Venus).The antara dasa

is easy; Jupiter. When the Narayana Dasa changes in July, people will be

fighting for herfreedom, and she is likely to experience better circumstances.

Best wishes,***Visti LarsenEmail: < visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com>

visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) comWeb: < http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <

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~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to

become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach

should not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and

deed - do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat

~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1)

Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian -

remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should not become a

graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free

chart reading today Do You

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|| Om Krsna Guru ||

 

Dear Michal, Namaskar

 

Thanks for sharing that. My "Asura Yoga" occurs in the Navamsa, so I

have felt nothing similar to what it has done to you. I still am not

sure what the broader consequences are for the combination in

Navamsa, but having an exalted Jupiter in the 8th house might not be

good for marriage I think...

 

Would you be willing to share your chart details, just for learning?

 

Best wishes,

 

Samir

 

 

 

, Michal Dziwulski

<nearmichal> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Dear Samir, Visti, and list members,

>

> just to share my experience, because this dialogue has cleared some

things for myself also. I have Jupiter in the 8th from lagna with

lagnesh, and therefore 6th from Arudha lagna. My father was declared

bankrupt and was wanted by the police before he fled the country and

dissapeared when I was still a child. Many people I have associated

with in my life have been cheats, liars, thieves, involved with the

police, been arrested, or are currently in jail. I have counted

myself lucky to not be amongst them now, and have learnt much from my

friendships with such people. Though much toned down now, I still

seem to attract people who are somewhat on the outskirts of the

normal run of law and accepted social conduct. Perhaps I understand

a little better now why this happens.

>

> Respectfully,

> Michal.

>

> Om Namo Narayanaya

>

> Visti Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:

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> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Samir, Namaskar

>

> The Asuras are those which are agains the Sura's (followers of

surya). These are those who don't believe in the rulership of the

King (Sun), compassion of the Queen (Moon) and the laws founded by

the judges (Jupiter). You would note that the three sattvic planets

are listed out, and are the upholders of sattva guna in soceity.

>

> Sooo... When either of the Sattvic grahas are in the eighth house

(hidden/disapeared) the Asura Yoga is formed. Each planet signifies

something different, i.e. Jupiter specifically deals with the law and

moral code. But this does NOT mean that the native born with this is

an Asura.

>

>

>

> In all cases it means that the native is born in a community of

Asuras, i.e. in the case of Schapelle Corby, i did some reading and

found that her own father had previously been charged with the

posession of drugs. If you do some digging you will find others in

her social circle who have had some big problems with the law, or who

have challenged the moral code. Reformers of laws and religions have

been born with Asura Yoga.

>

>

>

> As far as the native is concerned, you must look at the lagnesha

and arudha lagna, and see the placement of Jupiter/Sun/Moon therefrom

to analyse the native's own disposition towards this yoga... i.e. do

they support it or reject it.

>

> In the case of Schapelle Jupiter is joined the lagnesha, so

normally we would NOT expect her to be an asuric person. Also Jupiter

falls in the sixth from arudha lagna, and she is definitely a peace-

loving person and one who believes in the law and good moral conduct.

>

>

>

> Because of the importance of arudha lagna, those people with

Sagittarius or Pisces lagna, having Jupiter in the eighth, do not

have an Asura Yoga... reason is that Jupiter would fall in the sixth

from arudha lagna, and a peaceloving person is born.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: visti@s...

>

> Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

>

>

>

>

>

[] On Behalf Of Samir Shah

> 30 May 2005 09:19

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Asura Yoga (Schapelle Corby - a case

that gripped a nation)

>

>

>

>

> || Om Krsna Guru ||

>

> Dear Vistiji, Namaskar

>

> I love reading your chart analyses; they are wonderful for learning.

>

> I have read quite about this form of Asura Yoga in the archives -

with Jupiter in the 8th in Rasi chart. I just realised I have the

same - but in Navamsa, and Jupiter is exalted there (i.e.,

Sagittarius Lagnamsa). I think I can figure out what the results of

this might be with respect to marriage, but could you kindly explain

what the effect might be as seen with respect to the Rasi chart?

>

> Pranaam,

>

> Samir

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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>

> Message: 10

> Sat, 28 May 2005 12:27:18 +0200

> "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> RE: Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a nation

>

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Justin, Namaskar

>

> Does Ms Corby have a fiance or boyfriend?

>

>

>

> Heres why i ask; She has Jupiter in the eighth house forming a type

of Asura

> Yoga. Such people tend to challenge the law or the moral-code of

soceity.

> This is more so since Jupiter is Atmakaraka. Now watch how the

scenario

> unfolds around this atmakaraka.

>

> Jupiter is joined the lagna lord showing that she is not one to

disobey the

> moral-code, but is rather a reformer. Also because of the lagnesha's

> placement, Jupiter falls in the sixth from arudha lagna, showing a

> peaceloving person who exists in a society/community which doesn't

obey the

> laws of soceity. Did you also notice a Kala Sarpa Yoga in the

chart? This

> will further confirm the natives community/soceity.

>

>

>

> Now look more at this Jupiter; Mars is joined whilst Rahu aspects

indicating

> a curse of a brahmin, and being that Rahu is in trines to AK and

Mars is

> joined, this can cause bondage and deprivation of freedom.

>

> The ninth house shows our freedom, and is occupied by the

badhakesh - Sun,

> again promoting bondage.

>

>

>

> Go back to Jupiter; the Upapada is joined it, so the

spouse/partner/fiance

> may have provoked this event to happen. Her own actions were

involved as

> Lagnesha is joined the combination - this is the most unfortunate

part.

>

>

>

> Timing is easy if you use Narayana Dasa - Maha Dasa was of Libra

(but acting

> like Aries) whose lord is placed in the eighth house with Jupiter.

The

> antara dasa is ALWAYS recieving Rasi dristi of Rahu, and in this

case it was

> Gemini Antara, who not only is aspected by Rahu but i also joined

the

> badhakesh.

>

>

>

> With Vimshottari you have to look carefully; Moon mahadasa is

running and is

> in a nakshatra parivartana with Venus, so Moon is going to give the

results

> of fame, recognition, etc. But this is resulting in change of

> community/friends/family, with focus on incarceration (Venus).

>

> The antara dasa is easy; Jupiter.

>

>

>

> When the Narayana Dasa changes in July, people will be fighting for

her

> freedom, and she is likely to experience better circumstances.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: < visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> Web: < http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com & <

http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

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> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

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> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

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Dear Samir,

 

Chart details are easily shared: 7 May 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland (Aq lagna).

At the West Coast Conference last year we were taught that the trines in Navamsa

are very important. Marriage and relationships are to be seen from the seventh

house and its trines, and spirituality and health can be seen from the fourth

house and its trines. So I would say that the combination you have in your

Navamsa speaks very well for your health and spirituality, rather than being

bad for marriage. Having said that though, I am not sure if the Asura yoga can

be extended to have the same or similar results in Navamsa as it has in Rasi, or

how it would act at all. This hopefully can be clarified by someone with more

experience.

 

With full regards,

Michal.

 

Om Namo Narayanaya ray_of_solaris <solaris.smoke > wrote:

|| Om Krsna Guru ||Dear Michal, NamaskarThanks for sharing that. My "Asura

Yoga" occurs in the Navamsa, so I have felt nothing similar to what it has done

to you. I still am not sure what the broader consequences are for the

combination in Navamsa, but having an exalted Jupiter in the 8th house might

not be good for marriage I think...Would you be willing to share your chart

details, just for learning?Best wishes,Samir--- In

, Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal> wrote:>

Hare Rama Krsna > > Dear Samir, Visti, and list members,> > just to share

my experience, because this dialogue has cleared some things for myself also.

I have Jupiter in the 8th from lagna with lagnesh, and therefore 6th from

Arudha lagna. My father was declared bankrupt and was wanted by the police

before he fled the country and dissapeared when I was still a child. Many

people I have associated with in my life have been cheats, liars, thieves,

involved with the police, been arrested, or are currently in jail. I have

counted myself lucky to not be amongst them now, and have learnt much from my

friendships with such people. Though much toned down now, I still seem to

attract people who are somewhat on the outskirts of the normal run of law and

accepted social conduct. Perhaps I understand a little better now why this

happens.> > Respectfully,> Michal.> > Om Namo Narayanaya > > Visti

Larsen <visti@s...> wrote:> v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}o\:*

{behavior:url(#default#VML);}w\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);}.shape

{behavior:url(#default#VML);}st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }> ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > Dear Samir, Namaskar> > The Asuras are those which are agains the

Sura's (followers of surya). These are those who don't believe in the rulership

of the King (Sun), compassion of the Queen (Moon) and the laws founded by the

judges (Jupiter). You would note that the three sattvic planets are listed out,

and are the upholders of sattva guna in soceity.> > Sooo... When either of the

Sattvic grahas are in the eighth house (hidden/disapeared) the Asura Yoga is

formed. Each planet signifies something different, i.e. Jupiter specifically

deals with the law and moral code. But this does NOT mean that the native born

with this is an Asura. > > > > In all cases it means that the native is born

in a community of Asuras, i.e. in the case of Schapelle Corby, i did some

reading

and found that her own father had previously been charged with the posession of

drugs. If you do some digging you will find others in her social circle who

have had some big problems with the law, or who have challenged the moral code.

Reformers of laws and religions have been born with Asura Yoga.> > > > As far

as the native is concerned, you must look at the lagnesha and arudha lagna, and

see the placement of Jupiter/Sun/Moon therefrom to analyse the native's own

disposition towards this yoga... i.e. do they support it or reject it.> > In

the case of Schapelle Jupiter is joined the lagnesha, so normally we would NOT

expect her to be an asuric person. Also Jupiter falls in the sixth from arudha

lagna, and she is definitely a peace-loving person and one who believes in the

law and good moral conduct.> > > > Because of the importance of arudha lagna,

those

people with Sagittarius or Pisces lagna, having Jupiter in the eighth, do not

have an Asura Yoga... reason is that Jupiter would fall in the sixth from

arudha lagna, and a peaceloving person is born.> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti

Larsen> > Email: visti@s...> > Web: http://srigaruda.com &

http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > > > > >

[] On Behalf Of

Samir Shah> 30 May 2005 09:19> > Subject:

[Om Krishna Guru] Re: Asura Yoga (Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a

nation)> > > > > || Om Krsna Guru ||> > Dear Vistiji, Namaskar> > I love

reading

your chart analyses; they are wonderful for learning.> > I have read quite about

this form of Asura Yoga in the archives - with Jupiter in the 8th in Rasi chart.

I just realised I have the same - but in Navamsa, and Jupiter is exalted there

(i.e., Sagittarius Lagnamsa). I think I can figure out what the results of

this might be with respect to marriage, but could you kindly explain what the

effect might be as seen with respect to the Rasi chart?> > Pranaam,> > Samir >

> > > > > >

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Message: 10 > Sat, 28 May 2005 12:27:18 +0200> "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>> RE: Schapelle Corby - a case that gripped a

nation> > ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > Dear Justin, Namaskar> > Does Ms Corby have a fiance or boyfriend?> >

> > Heres why i ask; She has Jupiter in the eighth house forming a type of

Asura> Yoga. Such people tend to challenge the law or the moral-code of

soceity.> This is more so since Jupiter is Atmakaraka. Now watch how the

scenario> unfolds around this atmakaraka.> > Jupiter is joined the lagna lord

showing that she is not one to disobey the> moral-code, but is rather a

reformer. Also because of the lagnesha's> placement, Jupiter falls in the sixth

from arudha lagna, showing a> peaceloving person who exists in a

society/community which doesn't obey the> laws of soceity. Did you also notice

a Kala Sarpa Yoga in the chart? This> will further confirm the natives

community/soceity.> > > > Now look more at this Jupiter; Mars

is joined whilst Rahu aspects indicating> a curse of a brahmin, and being that

Rahu is in trines to AK and Mars is> joined, this can cause bondage and

deprivation of freedom.> > The ninth house shows our freedom, and is occupied

by the badhakesh - Sun,> again promoting bondage.> > > > Go back to Jupiter;

the Upapada is joined it, so the spouse/partner/fiance> may have provoked this

event to happen. Her own actions were involved as> Lagnesha is joined the

combination - this is the most unfortunate part.> > > > Timing is easy if you

use Narayana Dasa - Maha Dasa was of Libra (but acting> like Aries) whose lord

is placed in the eighth house with Jupiter. The> antara dasa is ALWAYS

recieving Rasi dristi of Rahu, and in this case it was> Gemini Antara, who not

only is aspected by Rahu but i also joined

the> badhakesh.> > > > With Vimshottari you have to look carefully; Moon

mahadasa is running and is> in a nakshatra parivartana with Venus, so Moon is

going to give the results> of fame, recognition, etc. But this is resulting in

change of> community/friends/family, with focus on incarceration (Venus).> >

The antara dasa is easy; Jupiter.> > > > When the Narayana Dasa changes in

July, people will be fighting for her> freedom, and she is likely to experience

better circumstances.> > > > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > Email: <

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Dear Michal, Namaskar

Thanks. I notice that both Jupiter and Saturn are retrograde in the

8th house... lotsa desires carted over into this lifetime!

The reason I had surmised that it would be bad for marriage was because

the 8th house (Navamsa) is 2nd from the 7th, and therefore maraka to

it. Planets in the 8th house are therefore responsible for

terminating (or a least trying to terminate) the first marriage. In

my case, Jupiter is sitting there, exalted and therefore

strong. However my understanding is susceptible to error, in

which case I hope to be corrected.

As for the effect of Jupiter being in the 6th from AL in Navamsa, I don't

think it has a similar effect to what it does in Rasi - at least not as

broad an effect. But I have yet to learn...

I gratefully welcome anything that is good for spirituality, should that

be a benefit of Jupiter's placement!

Best wishes,

Samir

Michal Dziwulski <nearmichal

Tue May 31, 2005 8:46 am

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] RE: Re: Asura Yoga (Schapelle Corby

- a case that gripped a nation)

Hare Rama Krsna

 

Dear Samir,

 

Chart details are easily shared: 7 May 1981, 3:15am, Warsaw, Poland (Aq

lagna).

At the West Coast Conference last year we were taught that the trines in

Navamsa are very important. Marriage and relationships are to be

seen from the seventh house and its trines, and spirituality and health

can be seen from the fourth house and its trines. So I would say

that the combination you have in your Navamsa speaks very well for your

health and spirituality, rather than being bad for marriage. Having

said that though, I am not sure if the Asura yoga can be extended to have

the same or similar results in Navamsa as it has in Rasi, or how it would

act at all. This hopefully can be clarified by someone with more

experience.

 

With full regards,

Michal.

 

Om Namo Narayanaya