Marrige against parents wishes: Everyone invited

May 27, 2005

Dear gurudev, Visti ji,

Pranaam

Perfect.

She met this person in the same housing complex where she use to

reside and they were studing in same school.

She was totally rejected socially by her parents to the extent that

none of her relaives or parent came to her house even when she gave

birth to a child.

But, Lagana, AL and Ninth house has jupiter blessings too. It has

Rashi and grah dristhi of Jupiter on 11th house (11th lord too si

jup). Eventually her elder Sister (11th house Matter) kept the

dialouge on with her. And through her effort she was again accepted

by her parents and relatives on the occasion of her elder brother's

(again 11th house significance) marriage. Though they still have some

deep rooted gruges which sometime crop up.

Now what kind of person her husband is?

Venus in UL shows the kind hearted, Knowlegeable, and some sort of

artistic talent or skill.

Ju and Mars has grah dristi on venus.

Can one see rashi dristi on UL for nature of the husband? In this

case 1st, 4th, 7th house has the rashi dristi on UL showing venus,

sun, ketu influence.He may be a knowledgable, Artistic, but little

arrogant to.

Please comment.

Let get deep into it step by step so that we all can learn.

Everyone invited.

Pranaam

Ajay

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> Venus is lagnesh in the ninth house in the chart, and indicates

fortune

> after marriage, and blessings of elders.

>

> However the ninth lord Saturn is joined Rahu in the eleventh house,

showing

> that she will be given an opportunity to fulfill some hope/desire,

but this

> will be of an adharmic nature and will destroy the good fortune

arising from

> the ninth house. Upapada being in the ninth house shows the nature

of this

> hope/desire being related to marriage, and that too someone she met

at

> college (ninth house) or in service (a6).

>

> Rahu and Saturn are further involved in a curse of Brahmin and

indicates

> that the establishing of this desire will incur alot of pain and

suffering,

> and the marriage will be tormented by her decission.

>

> Now to see the events surrounding the marriage; seventh house is

unoccupied,

> but its lord is in the fifth house showing a great love towards the

spouse

> and strong indications of a love marriage are there. Jupiter is

joined the

> seventh lord and will promote marriage, but being the eighth lord

will do so

> in secret. This is confirmed by Ketu's conjunction as he is the

lord of

> Scorpio (natural eighth house and house of secrets).

>

> Being that the seventh is lorded by two planets, there will be a

choice

> between two partners at the time of marriage, but lord Mars is in

the house

> of enemies (sixth), and is least preferable compared to Ketu in the

fifth

> house whom she loves.

>

> You can further see each of the combinations mentioned above, from

the

> arudha lagna to see how it affects her social life. The Rahu-Saturn

combo is

> in the seventh from AL and shows a complete blockage to her social

life and

> reputation.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

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>

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> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 26 May 2005 13:31

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Marrige against parents wishes-Gurudev

Visti ji

>

> Guru Dev Pranaam,

>

> Female Native code:7

>

> Natal Chart

>

> December 25, 1968

> Time: 3:00:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

> This female has married to her boyfriend secretly in 1989. And

about

> one year later in sep 1990 came to her husband house against the

> wishes of her parents. There was a lot of trouble and enemity

between

> the boy and her parents at that time. As matter also went to the

> court where decision was in her favour.

>

> What in chart could be responsible for this marrige and sbsequent

> actions?

>

> Is it Saturn aspect on jup and Sun?

>

> Please put some light on this.

>

> Pranaam

> Ajay

~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

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May 27, 2005

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ajay,

Namaskar

The curse

had to manifest, and when it was over she was accepted again.

Now you

said elder sister, which is seen from the eleventh house. This is Pisces, and

is lorded by jupiter. Jupiter is causing the curse, so we now know for sure,

that though she earned a curse, it was all done with the best of intentions. This

is seen from Jupiter placed in a trikona.

Venus in

upapada, makes the spouse a real lover-boy. He is charming, well mannered,

handsome looking, very pretty eyes. He has a short temper but cools down quickly.

This happens in Capricorn making him hard working and a good earner. He is very

fond of parties and drinks.

Mars has dristi

on Venus, whilst Jupiter also has dristi, showing that he is very respecftul

towards priests, gurus and astrologers, but in some special cases he can be

protective and agressive – but this is very little.

The lord of

Upapada is Saturn and is joind Rahu, and can indicate that he comes from a poor

family or lower class. The couple met through their friends or social circle

due to the placement in the eleventh house.

You have to

revise your knowledge about Rasi dristi. Upapada is in a movable sign and hence

is only aspected by planets in fixed signs, except the adjacent aquarius. So no

planets are having rasi dristi. Ones character/nature doesn’t change much

due to Rasi dristi – Graha dristi is more important, yet is only temporary

compared to conjunction or lordship which is permanent.

Best

wishes,

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27 May 2005 14:31

[Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Marrige against parents wishes: Everyone invited

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10.0pt">Dear gurudev, Visti ji,

Pranaam

Perfect.

She met this person in the same housing complex

where she use to

reside and they were studing in same school.

She was totally rejected socially by her parents

to the extent that

none of her relaives or parent came to her house

even when she gave

birth to a child.

But, Lagana, AL and Ninth house has jupiter

blessings too. It has

Rashi and grah dristhi of Jupiter on 11th house

(11th lord too si

jup). Eventually her elder Sister (11th house

Matter) kept the

dialouge on with her. And through her effort she

was again accepted

by her parents and relatives on the occasion of

her elder brother's

(again 11th house significance) marriage. Though

they still have some

deep rooted gruges which sometime crop up.

Now what kind of person her husband is?

Venus in UL shows the kind hearted, Knowlegeable,

and some sort of

artistic talent or skill.

Ju and Mars has grah dristi on venus.

Can one see rashi dristi on UL for nature of the

husband? In this

case 1st, 4th, 7th house has the rashi dristi on

UL showing venus,

sun, ketu influence.He may be a knowledgable,

Artistic, but little

arrogant to.

Please comment.

Let get deep into it step by step so that we all

can learn.

Everyone invited.

Pranaam

Ajay

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> Venus is lagnesh in the ninth house in the

chart, and indicates

fortune

> after marriage, and blessings of elders.

>

> However the ninth lord Saturn is joined Rahu

in the eleventh house,

showing

> that she will be given an opportunity to

fulfill some hope/desire,

but this

> will be of an adharmic nature and will

destroy the good fortune

arising from

> the ninth house. Upapada being in the ninth

house shows the nature

of this

> hope/desire being related to marriage, and

that too someone she met

at

> college (ninth house) or in service (a6).

>

> Rahu and Saturn are further involved in a

curse of Brahmin and

indicates

> that the establishing of this desire will

incur alot of pain and

suffering,

> and the marriage will be tormented by her

decission.

>

> Now to see the events surrounding the

marriage; seventh house is

unoccupied,

> but its lord is in the fifth house showing a

great love towards the

spouse

> and strong indications of a love marriage are

there. Jupiter is

joined the

> seventh lord and will promote marriage, but

being the eighth lord

will do so

> in secret. This is confirmed by Ketu's

conjunction as he is the

lord of

> Scorpio (natural eighth house and house of

secrets).

>

> Being that the seventh is lorded by two

planets, there will be a

choice

> between two partners at the time of marriage,

but lord Mars is in

the house

> of enemies (sixth), and is least preferable

compared to Ketu in the

fifth

> house whom she loves.

>

> You can further see each of the combinations

mentioned above, from

the

> arudha lagna to see how it affects her social

life. The Rahu-Saturn

combo is

> in the seventh from AL and shows a complete blockage to her

social

life and

> reputation.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 26 May 2005 13:31

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Marrige against

parents wishes-Gurudev

Visti ji

>

> Guru Dev Pranaam,

>

> Female Native code:7

>

> Natal Chart

>

December 25, 1968

>

Time: 3:00:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00

(East of GMT)

>

Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N

36' 00"

>

New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00

meters

>

> This female has married to her boyfriend

secretly in 1989. And

about

> one year later in sep 1990 came to her

husband house against the

> wishes of her parents. There was a lot of

trouble and enemity

between

> the boy and her parents at that time. As

matter also went to the

> court where decision was in her favour.

>

> What in chart could be responsible for this

marrige and sbsequent

> actions?

>

> Is it Saturn aspect on jup and Sun?

>

> Please put some light on this.

>

> Pranaam

> Ajay

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

reading today

>

> _____

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10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"">

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

May 27, 2005

Gurudev Pranaam,

Sorry for the stupid mistake on rashi drishti.

This is great. One more thing I confirmed later on from your previous

comments that she had two choices for marriage out of which she chose

this one.

Ok now you says that after acceptance that curse is over. Was this

the same curse of the Brahman which you mentioned earlier?

If some one have this sort of a curse can this be removed by

undertaking responsibility of some girl's marriage. Because that way

you again establish dharma.

Another interesting thing I notice and asked her that Rahu in 11th

along with Sat can give deafness. She is hard of hearing with left

ear. and She mentioned that this was the prime reason behind choosing

this guy because she thought he can bear with her and understand her

problem as he is well mannered guy. So again 11th house matter had

played role in the events.

You are right that person comes from the lower caste and poor family.

They were introduced to each other by his friend and her friend as

they were also having their affair.

As described by her husband is definatly have the venus quality and

also great respect giver to priests, astrologers and religious people.

How can one sees the profession of the husband? Can we see it as 10th

from UL?

Her hearing deficiency can be cured up to the satisfaction level?

How does one sees heredity diseases as she mention that her mother

also has this problem and they run it in the family from mother side.

Another interesting thing is her eldest brother completely deaf and

dumb. do we we see some 11th house connection here too?

This great learning. Hope everybody will join with their comments.

Pranaam

Ajay

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> The curse had to manifest, and when it was over she was accepted

again.

>

> Now you said elder sister, which is seen from the eleventh house.

This is

> Pisces, and is lorded by jupiter. Jupiter is causing the curse, so

we now

> know for sure, that though she earned a curse, it was all done with

the best

> of intentions. This is seen from Jupiter placed in a trikona.

>

> Venus in upapada, makes the spouse a real lover-boy. He is

charming, well

> mannered, handsome looking, very pretty eyes. He has a short temper

but

> cools down quickly. This happens in Capricorn making him hard

working and a

> good earner. He is very fond of parties and drinks.

>

> Mars has dristi on Venus, whilst Jupiter also has dristi, showing

that he is

> very respecftul towards priests, gurus and astrologers, but in some

special

> cases he can be protective and agressive - but this is very little.

>

> The lord of Upapada is Saturn and is joind Rahu, and can indicate

that he

> comes from a poor family or lower class. The couple met through

their

> friends or social circle due to the placement in the eleventh house.

>

> You have to revise your knowledge about Rasi dristi. Upapada is in

a movable

> sign and hence is only aspected by planets in fixed signs, except

the

> adjacent aquarius. So no planets are having rasi dristi. Ones

> character/nature doesn't change much due to Rasi dristi - Graha

dristi is

> more important, yet is only temporary compared to conjunction or

lordship

> which is permanent.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 27 May 2005 14:31

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Marrige against parents wishes:

Everyone

> invited

>

> Dear gurudev, Visti ji,

>

> Pranaam

>

> Perfect.

>

> She met this person in the same housing complex where she use to

> reside and they were studing in same school.

>

> She was totally rejected socially by her parents to the extent that

> none of her relaives or parent came to her house even when she gave

> birth to a child.

>

> But, Lagana, AL and Ninth house has jupiter blessings too. It has

> Rashi and grah dristhi of Jupiter on 11th house (11th lord too si

> jup). Eventually her elder Sister (11th house Matter) kept the

> dialouge on with her. And through her effort she was again accepted

> by her parents and relatives on the occasion of her elder brother's

> (again 11th house significance) marriage. Though they still have

some

> deep rooted gruges which sometime crop up.

>

> Now what kind of person her husband is?

>

> Venus in UL shows the kind hearted, Knowlegeable, and some sort of

> artistic talent or skill.

>

> Ju and Mars has grah dristi on venus.

>

> Can one see rashi dristi on UL for nature of the husband? In this

> case 1st, 4th, 7th house has the rashi dristi on UL showing venus,

> sun, ketu influence.He may be a knowledgable, Artistic, but little

> arrogant to.

>

> Please comment.

>

> Let get deep into it step by step so that we all can learn.

>

> Everyone invited.

>

> Pranaam

>

> Ajay

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay, Namaskar

> >

> > Venus is lagnesh in the ninth house in the chart, and indicates

> fortune

> > after marriage, and blessings of elders.

> >

> > However the ninth lord Saturn is joined Rahu in the eleventh

house,

> showing

> > that she will be given an opportunity to fulfill some

hope/desire,

> but this

> > will be of an adharmic nature and will destroy the good fortune

> arising from

> > the ninth house. Upapada being in the ninth house shows the

nature

> of this

> > hope/desire being related to marriage, and that too someone she

met

> at

> > college (ninth house) or in service (a6).

> >

> > Rahu and Saturn are further involved in a curse of Brahmin and

> indicates

> > that the establishing of this desire will incur alot of pain and

> suffering,

> > and the marriage will be tormented by her decission.

> >

> > Now to see the events surrounding the marriage; seventh house is

> unoccupied,

> > but its lord is in the fifth house showing a great love towards

the

> spouse

> > and strong indications of a love marriage are there. Jupiter is

> joined the

> > seventh lord and will promote marriage, but being the eighth lord

> will do so

> > in secret. This is confirmed by Ketu's conjunction as he is the

> lord of

> > Scorpio (natural eighth house and house of secrets).

> >

> > Being that the seventh is lorded by two planets, there will be a

> choice

> > between two partners at the time of marriage, but lord Mars is in

> the house

> > of enemies (sixth), and is least preferable compared to Ketu in

the

> fifth

> > house whom she loves.

> >

> > You can further see each of the combinations mentioned above,

from

> the

> > arudha lagna to see how it affects her social life. The Rahu-

Saturn

> combo is

> > in the seventh from AL and shows a complete blockage to her

social

> life and

> > reputation.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 26 May 2005 13:31

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Marrige against parents wishes-Gurudev

> Visti ji

> >

> > Guru Dev Pranaam,

> >

> > Female Native code:7

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > December 25, 1968

> > Time: 3:00:00 pm

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> > New Delhi, India

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> > This female has married to her boyfriend secretly in 1989. And

> about

> > one year later in sep 1990 came to her husband house against the

> > wishes of her parents. There was a lot of trouble and enemity

> between

> > the boy and her parents at that time. As matter also went to the

> > court where decision was in her favour.

> >

> > What in chart could be responsible for this marrige and sbsequent

> > actions?

> >

> > Is it Saturn aspect on jup and Sun?

> >

> > Please put some light on this.

> >

> > Pranaam

> > Ajay

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Links

> >

> > *

> > /

> >

> > *

> >

> > <?

> subject=Un>

> >

> > *

> > <> Terms of Service.

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

> _____

>

> Links

>

> *

> /

>

> *

>

> <?

subject=Un>

>

> *

> <> Terms of Service.

May 28, 2005

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ajay,

Namaskar

Comments

below.

Best

wishes,

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27 May 2005 20:10

[Om Krishna Guru] Re:

Marrige against parents wishes: Everyone invited

12.0pt">

10.0pt">Gurudev Pranaam,

Sorry for the stupid mistake on rashi drishti.

This is great. One more thing I confirmed later on

from your previous

comments that she had two choices for marriage out

of which she chose

this one.

Ok now you says that after acceptance that curse

is over. Was this

the same curse of the Brahman which you mentioned

earlier?

[Visti] Yes

offcourse.

font-family:"Courier New"">

If some one have this sort of a curse can this be

removed by

undertaking responsibility of some girl's

marriage. Because that way

you again establish dharma.

[Visti] If

it was a curse of spouse then yes. But in this case it was a curse of brahmin –

the best remedy is to help and feed brahmins, whilst worshipping Shiva. Normally

people who have curse of Brahmin are involved in some spiritual work –

thats how they get out of the curse.

font-family:"Courier New"">

Another interesting thing I notice and asked her

that Rahu in 11th

along with Sat can give deafness. She is hard of

hearing with left

ear. and She mentioned that this was the prime

reason behind choosing

this guy because she thought he can bear with her

and understand her

problem as he is well mannered guy. So again 11th

house matter had

played role in the events.

[Visti] ok,

i guess that is due to Saturn being lord of Upapada – hence the

motivation.

font-family:"Courier New"">

You are right that person comes from the lower

caste and poor family.

They were introduced to each other by his friend

and her friend as

they were also having their affair.

As described by her husband is definatly have the

venus quality and

also great respect giver to priests, astrologers

and religious people.

How can one sees the profession of the husband?

Can we see it as 10th

from UL?

[Visti] You

can see eleventh from UL for his source of earnings, but really its the tenth

from the seventh house (in navamsa) that shows his work.

font-family:"Courier New"">

Her hearing deficiency can be cured up to the

satisfaction level?

[Visti] Jupiter

has the responsibility to give hearing. Saturn and Rahu deny this trait, being

enemies of Jupiter. When both Saturn AND

Rahu are influencing a house, Jupiter can do little about it. The fact that she

can still hear, is due to Jupiters rasi dristi on the eleventh, otherwise i

would expect her to be completely deaf.

font-family:"Courier New"">

How does one sees heredity diseases as she mention

that her mother

also has this problem and they run it in the

family from mother side.

[Visti] Jaimini

talks of the use of Chara Karakas of mother and father, but i’ve not seen

this work satisfactory. Thats my own limitation however.

font-family:"Courier New"">

Another interesting thing is her eldest brother

completely deaf and

dumb. do we we see some 11th house connection here

too?

[Visti] Then

you must ask why the elder sister isn’t?

font-family:"Courier New"">

This great learning. Hope everybody will join with

their comments.

Pranaam

Ajay

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> The curse had to manifest, and when it was

over she was accepted

again.

>

> Now you said elder sister, which is seen from

the eleventh house.

This is

> Pisces, and is lorded by jupiter. Jupiter is

causing the curse, so

we now

> know for sure, that though she earned a

curse, it was all done with

the best

> of intentions. This is seen from Jupiter

placed in a trikona.

>

> Venus in upapada, makes the spouse a real

lover-boy. He is

charming, well

> mannered, handsome looking, very pretty eyes.

He has a short temper

but

> cools down quickly. This happens in Capricorn

making him hard

working and a

> good earner. He is very fond of parties and

drinks.

>

> Mars has dristi on Venus, whilst Jupiter also

has dristi, showing

that he is

> very respecftul towards priests, gurus and

astrologers, but in some

special

> cases he can be protective and agressive -

but this is very little.

>

> The lord of Upapada is Saturn and is joind

Rahu, and can indicate

that he

> comes from a poor family or lower class. The

couple met through

their

> friends or social circle due to the placement

in the eleventh house.

>

> You have to revise your knowledge about Rasi

dristi. Upapada is in

a movable

> sign and hence is only aspected by planets in

fixed signs, except

the

> adjacent aquarius. So no planets are having

rasi dristi. Ones

> character/nature doesn't change much due to

Rasi dristi - Graha

dristi is

> more important, yet is only temporary

compared to conjunction or

lordship

> which is permanent.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 27 May 2005 14:31

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Marrige

against parents wishes:

Everyone

> invited

>

> Dear gurudev, Visti ji,

>

> Pranaam

>

> Perfect.

>

> She met this person in the same housing

complex where she use to

> reside and they were studing in same school.

>

> She was totally rejected socially by her

parents to the extent that

> none of her relaives or parent came to her

house even when she gave

> birth to a child.

>

> But, Lagana, AL and Ninth house has jupiter

blessings too. It has

> Rashi and grah dristhi of Jupiter on 11th

house (11th lord too si

> jup). Eventually her elder Sister (11th house

Matter) kept the

> dialouge on with her. And through her effort

she was again accepted

> by her parents and relatives on the occasion

of her elder brother's

> (again 11th house significance) marriage.

Though they still have

some

> deep rooted gruges which sometime crop up.

>

> Now what kind of person her husband is?

>

> Venus in UL shows the kind hearted, Knowlegeable,

and some sort of

> artistic talent or skill.

>

> Ju and Mars has grah dristi on venus.

>

> Can one see rashi dristi on UL for nature of

the husband? In this

> case 1st, 4th, 7th house has the rashi dristi

on UL showing venus,

> sun, ketu influence.He may be a knowledgable,

Artistic, but little

> arrogant to.

>

> Please comment.

>

> Let get deep into it step by step so that we

all can learn.

>

> Everyone invited.

>

> Pranaam

>

> Ajay

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay, Namaskar

> >

> > Venus is lagnesh in the ninth house in

the chart, and indicates

> fortune

> > after marriage, and blessings of elders.

> >

> > However the ninth lord Saturn is joined

Rahu in the eleventh

house,

> showing

> > that she will be given an opportunity to

fulfill some

hope/desire,

> but this

> > will be of an adharmic nature and will

destroy the good fortune

> arising from

> > the ninth house. Upapada being in the

ninth house shows the

nature

> of this

> > hope/desire being related to marriage,

and that too someone she

met

> at

> > college (ninth house) or in service

(a6).

> >

> > Rahu and Saturn are further involved in

a curse of Brahmin and

> indicates

> > that the establishing of this desire

will incur alot of pain and

> suffering,

> > and the marriage will be tormented by

her decission.

> >

> > Now to see the events surrounding the

marriage; seventh house is

> unoccupied,

> > but its lord is in the fifth house

showing a great love towards

the

> spouse

> > and strong indications of a love

marriage are there. Jupiter is

> joined the

> > seventh lord and will promote marriage,

but being the eighth lord

> will do so

> > in secret. This is confirmed by Ketu's

conjunction as he is the

> lord of

> > Scorpio (natural eighth house and house

of secrets).

> >

> > Being that the seventh is lorded by two

planets, there will be a

> choice

> > between two partners at the time of

marriage, but lord Mars is in

> the house

> > of enemies (sixth), and is least

preferable compared to Ketu in

the

> fifth

> > house whom she loves.

> >

> > You can further see each of the

combinations mentioned above,

from

> the

> > arudha lagna to see how it affects her

social life. The Rahu-

Saturn

> combo is

> > in the seventh from AL and shows a complete blockage to her

social

> life and

> > reputation.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > Email: <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 26 May 2005 13:31

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Marrige

against parents wishes-Gurudev

> Visti ji

> >

> > Guru Dev Pranaam,

> >

> > Female Native code:7

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

December 25, 1968

> >

Time: 3:00:00 pm

> > Time Zone:

5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> >

Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N

36' 00"

>

New Delhi, India

> > Altitude:

0.00 meters

> >

> > This female has married to her boyfriend

secretly in 1989. And

> about

> > one year later in sep 1990 came to her

husband house against the

> > wishes of her parents. There was a lot

of trouble and enemity

> between

> > the boy and her parents at that time. As

matter also went to the

> > court where decision was in her favour.

> >

> > What in chart could be responsible for

this marrige and sbsequent

> > actions?

> >

> > Is it Saturn aspect on jup and Sun?

> >

> > Please put some light on this.

> >

> > Pranaam

> > Ajay

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of

the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari

Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember

Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a

graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed

- do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> > _____

> >

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> >

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> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar

the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard

for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do

one free chart

reading today

>

> _____

>

> Links

>

> * To visit your

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Rama Krishna'

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Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

May 29, 2005

Pranaam Gurudev,

First about her husband's profession 7th from the Navmasa lagan Venus

is there in Leo. 10th from there is exalted Moon. Moon also aspect

Sun in 6th and Rahu and Mercury in 9th by Rasi Drshti. Venus and Sun

are not cordial in relationship but it signifies some authority

position. Involvement of Venus and moon shows some artistic and

mental activity while Mercury and Rahu show involvement of

communication and technology. He might be computer expert or working

on artistic application through computer. Exalted moon signify

tremendous mental activity. Please comment.

Second, I need to seek out some basic issues regarding this lady. She

has tremendous desire to work and make some sort of mark for herself.

But she has not been able to figure out what kind of work she can do.

Moon as AK shows her gentle and caring disposition. Desire to work is

confirmed by the fact that Moon is here in D-1 in 10th house as. AK

has exalted and gone to 4th in D-9 confirms that person will be Karma

Yogi and very strong desire to work. Number of house from AK to Lagan

is 10th signifies opportunities in this life time lies in area of

work and career.

In D-1 10th house with AK moon can show some mental activity or

creative activity. Moon show involment of public sector and masses.

Both the Lord of 10th has gone to 11th generally shows good gains

from work and will be supported by friends and elder members of the

family. Rahu in 2nd from 10th and moon (AK) can be a good placement

for material gain but its association with Saturn is destroying this

gain. 11th from AL is cancer sign receiving rashi Drshti of moon from

10th. Shows gain from the world from moon activities. In D-9 Moon is

exalted in 4th house. Moon is also 7th from HL mean we can expect

wealth from this planet. 11th from AL is also receiving grah dristi

of Rahu, Showing that this could come from activities involving

foreign connection.

She has very interesting D-10. 4 planets in their own house Rahu is

in Lagan in D-10 own house, Mars in 10th in own house can show

involvement of energy, fire and some foreign connection. Mars has and

aspect of Venus again in own house. One thing can be seen as import

export activity related to Venus+Mars combination. One obvious

activity considering opportunities available to her could be pottery

artifacts or ceramics export. Some sort of art objects which involve

usage fire or energy.

Another perspective could be moon wealth ensuring planet is in 9th

house in Libra. Moon is the lord of 3rd house (11th from AL) posited

in 10th so may be 3rd house activity like creative writing or story

writing giving some sort of moral values. These stories can be

illustrated and published for global audience.

Logic: in D-10 moon in Ninth, AK, Venus (Art), Libra and 9th house

involvement moral values or dharma and publishing and global audience

Rahu significance. Saturn influence also for publishing.

Please Comment on above.

Here in D-10 Saturn again has Rashi Drshti on Rahu Venus and Mars.

There is a sarpa yoga in D-10 by having malefic in three kendras,

which is delaying or destroying the sustenance effects of the Chart?

Is there any remedy possible for this?

I think Saturn too is causing problems and delay in these matters in

D-1 too. Being a yogakarka for Taurus if we do some remedies for

Saturn than some result can be seen.

Or Should we enhance the benefic quality of Moon and Venus both are

yogada for the chart?

Pranaam

Ajay

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> Comments below.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 27 May 2005 20:10

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Marrige against parents wishes:

Everyone

> invited

>

> Gurudev Pranaam,

>

> Sorry for the stupid mistake on rashi drishti.

>

> This is great. One more thing I confirmed later on from your

chose

> this one.

>

> Ok now you says that after acceptance that curse is over. Was this

> the same curse of the Brahman which you mentioned earlier?

>

> [Visti] Yes offcourse.

>

> If some one have this sort of a curse can this be removed by

> undertaking responsibility of some girl's marriage. Because that

way

> you again establish dharma.

>

> [Visti] If it was a curse of spouse then yes. But in this case it

was a

> curse of brahmin - the best remedy is to help and feed brahmins,

whilst

> worshipping Shiva. Normally people who have curse of Brahmin are

involved in

> some spiritual work - thats how they get out of the curse.

>

> Another interesting thing I notice and asked her that Rahu in 11th

> along with Sat can give deafness. She is hard of hearing with left

> ear. and She mentioned that this was the prime reason behind

choosing

> this guy because she thought he can bear with her and understand

her

> problem as he is well mannered guy. So again 11th house matter had

> played role in the events.

>

> [Visti] ok, i guess that is due to Saturn being lord of Upapada -

hence the

> motivation.

>

> You are right that person comes from the lower caste and poor

family.

> They were introduced to each other by his friend and her friend as

> they were also having their affair.

>

> As described by her husband is definatly have the venus quality and

> also great respect giver to priests, astrologers and religious

people.

>

> How can one sees the profession of the husband? Can we see it as

10th

> from UL?

>

> [Visti] You can see eleventh from UL for his source of earnings,

but really

> its the tenth from the seventh house (in navamsa) that shows his

work.

>

> Her hearing deficiency can be cured up to the satisfaction level?

>

> [Visti] Jupiter has the responsibility to give hearing. Saturn and

Rahu deny

> this trait, being enemies of Jupiter. When both Saturn AND Rahu are

> influencing a house, Jupiter can do little about it. The fact that

she can

> still hear, is due to Jupiters rasi dristi on the eleventh,

otherwise i

> would expect her to be completely deaf.

>

> How does one sees heredity diseases as she mention that her mother

> also has this problem and they run it in the family from mother

side.

>

> [Visti] Jaimini talks of the use of Chara Karakas of mother and

father, but

> i've not seen this work satisfactory. Thats my own limitation

however.

>

> Another interesting thing is her eldest brother completely deaf and

> dumb. do we we see some 11th house connection here too?

>

> [Visti] Then you must ask why the elder sister isn't?

>

> This great learning. Hope everybody will join with their comments.

>

> Pranaam

>

> Ajay

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay, Namaskar

> >

> > The curse had to manifest, and when it was over she was accepted

> again.

> >

> > Now you said elder sister, which is seen from the eleventh house.

> This is

> > Pisces, and is lorded by jupiter. Jupiter is causing the curse,

so

> we now

> > know for sure, that though she earned a curse, it was all done

with

> the best

> > of intentions. This is seen from Jupiter placed in a trikona.

> >

> > Venus in upapada, makes the spouse a real lover-boy. He is

> charming, well

> > mannered, handsome looking, very pretty eyes. He has a short

temper

> but

> > cools down quickly. This happens in Capricorn making him hard

> working and a

> > good earner. He is very fond of parties and drinks.

> >

> > Mars has dristi on Venus, whilst Jupiter also has dristi, showing

> that he is

> > very respecftul towards priests, gurus and astrologers, but in

some

> special

> > cases he can be protective and agressive - but this is very

little.

> >

> > The lord of Upapada is Saturn and is joind Rahu, and can indicate

> that he

> > comes from a poor family or lower class. The couple met through

> their

> > friends or social circle due to the placement in the eleventh

house.

> >

> > You have to revise your knowledge about Rasi dristi. Upapada is

in

> a movable

> > sign and hence is only aspected by planets in fixed signs, except

> the

> > adjacent aquarius. So no planets are having rasi dristi. Ones

> > character/nature doesn't change much due to Rasi dristi - Graha

> dristi is

> > more important, yet is only temporary compared to conjunction or

> lordship

> > which is permanent.

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 27 May 2005 14:31

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Re: Marrige against parents wishes:

> Everyone

> > invited

> >

> > Dear gurudev, Visti ji,

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> > Perfect.

> >

> > She met this person in the same housing complex where she use to

> > reside and they were studing in same school.

> >

> > She was totally rejected socially by her parents to the extent

that

> > none of her relaives or parent came to her house even when she

gave

> > birth to a child.

> >

> > But, Lagana, AL and Ninth house has jupiter blessings too. It has

> > Rashi and grah dristhi of Jupiter on 11th house (11th lord too si

> > jup). Eventually her elder Sister (11th house Matter) kept the

> > dialouge on with her. And through her effort she was again

accepted

> > by her parents and relatives on the occasion of her elder

brother's

> > (again 11th house significance) marriage. Though they still have

> some

> > deep rooted gruges which sometime crop up.

> >

> > Now what kind of person her husband is?

> >

> > Venus in UL shows the kind hearted, Knowlegeable, and some sort

of

> > artistic talent or skill.

> >

> > Ju and Mars has grah dristi on venus.

> >

> > Can one see rashi dristi on UL for nature of the husband? In this

> > case 1st, 4th, 7th house has the rashi dristi on UL showing

venus,

> > sun, ketu influence.He may be a knowledgable, Artistic, but

little

> > arrogant to.

> >

> > Please comment.

> >

> > Let get deep into it step by step so that we all can learn.

> >

> > Everyone invited.

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> > Ajay

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Ajay, Namaskar

> > >

> > > Venus is lagnesh in the ninth house in the chart, and indicates

> > fortune

> > > after marriage, and blessings of elders.

> > >

> > > However the ninth lord Saturn is joined Rahu in the eleventh

> house,

> > showing

> > > that she will be given an opportunity to fulfill some

> hope/desire,

> > but this

> > > will be of an adharmic nature and will destroy the good fortune

> > arising from

> > > the ninth house. Upapada being in the ninth house shows the

> nature

> > of this

> > > hope/desire being related to marriage, and that too someone she

> met

> > at

> > > college (ninth house) or in service (a6).

> > >

> > > Rahu and Saturn are further involved in a curse of Brahmin and

> > indicates

> > > that the establishing of this desire will incur alot of pain

and

> > suffering,

> > > and the marriage will be tormented by her decission.

> > >

> > > Now to see the events surrounding the marriage; seventh house

is

> > unoccupied,

> > > but its lord is in the fifth house showing a great love towards

> the

> > spouse

> > > and strong indications of a love marriage are there. Jupiter is

> > joined the

> > > seventh lord and will promote marriage, but being the eighth

lord

> > will do so

> > > in secret. This is confirmed by Ketu's conjunction as he is the

> > lord of

> > > Scorpio (natural eighth house and house of secrets).

> > >

> > > Being that the seventh is lorded by two planets, there will be

a

> > choice

> > > between two partners at the time of marriage, but lord Mars is

in

> > the house

> > > of enemies (sixth), and is least preferable compared to Ketu in

> the

> > fifth

> > > house whom she loves.

> > >

> > > You can further see each of the combinations mentioned above,

> from

> > the

> > > arudha lagna to see how it affects her social life. The Rahu-

> Saturn

> > combo is

> > > in the seventh from AL and shows a complete blockage to her

> social

> > life and

> > > reputation.

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > > 26 May 2005 13:31

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Marrige against parents wishes-

Gurudev

> > Visti ji

> > >

> > > Guru Dev Pranaam,

> > >

> > > Female Native code:7

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > December 25, 1968

> > > Time: 3:00:00 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> > > New Delhi, India

> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > >

> > > This female has married to her boyfriend secretly in 1989. And

> > about

> > > one year later in sep 1990 came to her husband house against

the

> > > wishes of her parents. There was a lot of trouble and enemity

> > between

> > > the boy and her parents at that time. As matter also went to

the

> > > court where decision was in her favour.

> > >

> > > What in chart could be responsible for this marrige and

sbsequent

> > > actions?

> > >

> > > Is it Saturn aspect on jup and Sun?

> > >

> > > Please put some light on this.

> > >

> > > Pranaam

> > > Ajay

> > >

> > > ~ om tat sat ~

> > > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said

> > that the

> > > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> > reading today

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > > Links

> > >

> > > *

> > > /

> > >

> > > *

> > >

> > > <?

> > subject=Un>

> > >

> > > *

> > > <> Terms of Service.

> >

> > ~ om tat sat ~

> > Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> > Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> > (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

> that the

> > human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> > (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

> reading today

> >

> > _____

> >

> > Links

> >

> > *

> > /

> >

> > *

> >

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> subject=Un>

> >

> > *

> > <> Terms of Service.

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

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