RE: Trines in D-9, Abilities from Parivriti D-3

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Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

 

Dear Friends,

Vistiji had also discussed D3 (Parivriti), where he talked about planets in

kendra showing skills that are prominent and used regularly, planets in

trines show the skills the native wants to master and planets in dusthana

show the skills that do not come easily. His article on Drekkana probably

covers this.

Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

 

[]On Behalf Of Rafal

Sunday, May 15, 2005 6:41 AM

 

Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines in D-9

 

 

Dear Jyotisha

Namaskar,

 

Trines in Navamsa are abilities we were born with.

Trines to AK tell us about what we as soul want to increase as our

ability.

 

Lagna is also Kona so also has important things to say about our

ability. Lagna tell us about dharma. 5H is ability we have from our

previous birth, while 9H is ability which has to be improved with the

help of elders.

This is what I was taught.

 

with regards,

Rafal

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear all in tis thread

1st bhava which is one of the trines indicates

self.Navamsa lagna determines the Looks and inherent

appearance of a person, in addition to the one

determined by the rasi lagna.

5th bhava: This indicated the abilities that comes

naturally and easily to a person. This is bacause of

the knowledge practised or accumulated in the past

lives. Encouraging the activities and skills

represented by this house will enhance one' s stature

and Image in society. Ofcoures it has to be will

placed wrt AL to have a positive image.

9th Bhava: This signifies ones Dharma or duty one need

to follow plus the relation with one's teacher or

elders.

The sign occupied by Ak is the karakamsa and the

trines to it indicate the abilitiesof the Atma. that

is the aatma shakti or the ability to achieve the

desires of the AK as represented by the 7th bhava in

D9.

benefics in trines to AK gives mantra and tantra

shakti's for good purposes and malefics in Trines to

AK in D9 without any benefic influences gives The

Mantra /tantra shakti's for evil or destructive

purposes.

 

For more about D9 (navamsa) please read Varga chakra

...

 

Thanks and good wishes

lakshman

--- Ramesh Gangaramani <ramesh.gangaramani

wrote:

> Satyam Bruyat Priyam Bruyat

>

> Dear Friends,

> Vistiji had also discussed D3 (Parivriti), where he

> talked about planets in

> kendra showing skills that are prominent and used

> regularly, planets in

> trines show the skills the native wants to master

> and planets in dusthana

> show the skills that do not come easily. His article

> on Drekkana probably

> covers this.

> Regards

> Ramesh

>

>

>

>

> []On Behalf Of

> Rafal

> Sunday, May 15, 2005 6:41 AM

>

> Re: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines in D-9

>

>

> Dear Jyotisha

> Namaskar,

>

> Trines in Navamsa are abilities we were born with.

> Trines to AK tell us about what we as soul want to

> increase as our

> ability.

>

> Lagna is also Kona so also has important things to

> say about our

> ability. Lagna tell us about dharma. 5H is ability

> we have from our

> previous birth, while 9H is ability which has to be

> improved with the

> help of elders.

> This is what I was taught.

>

> with regards,

> Rafal

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta

> Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

> Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

> Great who said that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for

> animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

> free chart reading today

> Links

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear all in tis thread

1st bhava which is one of the trines indicates

self.Navamsa lagna determines the Looks and inherent

appearance of a person, in addition to the one

determined by the rasi lagna.

5th bhava: This indicated the abilities that comes

naturally and easily to a person. This is bacause of

the knowledge practised or accumulated in the past

lives. Encouraging the activities and skills

represented by this house will enhance one' s stature

and Image in society. Ofcoures it has to be will

placed wrt AL to have a positive image.

9th Bhava: This signifies ones Dharma or duty one need

to follow plus the relation with one's teacher or

elders.

The sign occupied by Ak is the karakamsa and the

trines to it indicate the abilitiesof the Atma. that

is the aatma shakti or the ability to achieve the

desires of the AK as represented by the 7th bhava in

D9.

benefics in trines to AK gives mantra and tantra

shakti's for good purposes and malefics in Trines to

AK in D9 without any benefic influences gives The

Mantra /tantra shakti's for evil or destructive

purposes.

 

For more about D9 (navamsa) please read Varga chakra

...

 

Thanks and good wishes

lakshman

 

 

 

 

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|| Om Krsna Guru ||

Dear Lakshman, Ramesh and list, Namaskar

Thanks very much for your guidance. I'll be looking more closely at

the Parivritti drekkana now.

Lakshman, a small correction to what you wrote: It is

malefics in trines to the Karakamsa that gives knowledge of

mantra/tantra/yantra. Benefics do not give this ability.

If there is the aspect/conjunction of benefics on these malefics, then

the knowledge is used for good purposes. Otherwise, the opposite is

true. Sanjayji's chart clearly demonstrates this. He has the

Moon aspecting Karakamsa.

I just noticed that Parasara (in the Sharma edition anyway) specifies

that this applies only from Karakamsa, while Jaimini doesn't explicitly

say - and neither does Sanjayji in his translation. Can anyone

suggest what the parampara advises? I can see why it might apply

only to karakamsa - given that mantra/tantra/yantra all amount to playing

with energies at the atma level.

Warm regards,

Samir

Lakshman Brahma <lbrahma

Sun May 15, 2005 10:54 pm

RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Trines in D-9, Abilities from

Parivriti D-3

Dear all in tis thread

1st bhava which is one of the trines indicates

self.Navamsa lagna determines the Looks and inherent

appearance of a person, in addition to the one

determined by the rasi lagna.

5th bhava: This indicated the abilities that comes

naturally and easily to a person. This is bacause of

the knowledge practised or accumulated in the past

lives. Encouraging the activities and skills

represented by this house will enhance one' s stature

and Image in society. Ofcoures it has to be will

placed wrt AL to have a positive image.

9th Bhava: This signifies ones Dharma or duty one need

to follow plus the relation with one's teacher or

elders.

The sign occupied by Ak is the karakamsa and the

trines to it indicate the abilitiesof the Atma. that

is the aatma shakti or the ability to achieve the

desires of the AK as represented by the 7th bhava in

D9.

benefics in trines to AK gives mantra and tantra

shakti's for good purposes and malefics in Trines to

AK in D9 without any benefic influences gives The

Mantra /tantra shakti's for evil or destructive

purposes.

For more about D9 (navamsa) please read Varga chakra

...

Thanks and good wishes

lakshman

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Dear Lakshman,

Namaskar

You are

correct, these abilities of mantra, tantra, yantra, etc applies only to

karakamsa.

Why

malefics you may ask?

Malefics

cause suffering and denial to us. The purpose of learning these

methods/remedies is to overcome this denial... basically its the ability and

force to make these malefics let go of the suffering.

 

Because suffering

usually occurs during the atmakaraka dasa, the ideal time to learn all these

things is also during atmakaraka dasa.

Best

wishes,

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[] On Behalf Of Samir Shah

16 May 2005 07:06

 

[Om Krishna

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|| Om Krsna Guru ||

Dear Lakshman, Ramesh and list, Namaskar

Thanks very much for your guidance. I'll be looking more closely at the

Parivritti drekkana now.

Lakshman, a small correction to what you wrote: It is malefics in trines to the Karakamsa that

gives knowledge of mantra/tantra/yantra. Benefics do not give this

ability.

If there is the aspect/conjunction of benefics on these malefics, then the

knowledge is used for good purposes. Otherwise, the opposite is true.

Sanjayji's chart clearly demonstrates this. He has the Moon aspecting

Karakamsa.

I just noticed that Parasara (in the Sharma edition anyway) specifies that this

applies only from Karakamsa, while Jaimini doesn't explicitly say - and neither

does Sanjayji in his translation. Can anyone suggest what the parampara

advises? I can see why it might apply only to karakamsa - given that

mantra/tantra/yantra all amount to playing with energies at the atma level.

Warm regards,

Samir

Lakshman

Brahma <lbrahma

Sun May 15, 2005 10:54 pm

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Trines in D-9, Abilities from Parivriti D-3

Dear all in

tis thread

1st bhava which is one of the trines indicates

self.Navamsa lagna determines the Looks and

inherent

appearance of a person, in addition to the one

determined by the rasi lagna.

5th bhava: This indicated the abilities that comes

naturally and easily to a person. This is bacause

of

the knowledge practised or accumulated in the past

lives. Encouraging the activities and skills

represented by this house will enhance one' s

stature

and Image in society. Ofcoures it has to be will

placed wrt AL

to have a positive image.

9th Bhava: This signifies ones Dharma or duty one

need

to follow plus the relation with one's teacher or

elders.

The sign occupied by Ak is the karakamsa and the

trines to it indicate the abilitiesof the Atma.

that

is the aatma shakti or the ability to achieve the

desires of the AK as represented by the 7th bhava

in

D9.

benefics in trines to AK gives mantra and tantra

shakti's for good purposes and malefics in Trines

to

AK in D9 without any benefic influences gives The

Mantra /tantra shakti's for evil or destructive

purposes.

For more about D9 (navamsa) please read Varga

chakra

...

Thanks and good wishes

lakshman

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

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Dear Lakshman

and Samir, Namaskar

Sorry i

was referring to Samir’s mail and was thinking about lakshman... some

sort of parivartana.

Actually

i agree fully with samir’s points.

Lakshman

– Benefics need to aspect the karakamsa itself to give a good intention

for using these powers... invariably if malefics aspect the karakamsa one could

be swayed to use these powers for evil purposes.

The

remedy for such a person is to worship the Ishta Devata to always keep them

calm and content.

Best

wishes,

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16 May 2005 10:34

 

RE: [Om Krishna

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Lakshman, Namaskar

You are

correct, these abilities of mantra, tantra, yantra, etc applies only to

karakamsa.

Why

malefics you may ask?

Malefics

cause suffering and denial to us. The purpose of learning these

methods/remedies is to overcome this denial... basically its the ability and

force to make these malefics let go of the suffering.

 

Because

suffering usually occurs during the atmakaraka dasa, the ideal time to learn

all these things is also during atmakaraka dasa.

Best

wishes,

***

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[] On Behalf Of Samir Shah

16 May 2005 07:06

 

[Om Krishna

Guru] Re: Trines in D-9, Abilities from Parivriti D-3

12.0pt">

|| Om Krsna Guru ||

Dear Lakshman, Ramesh and list, Namaskar

Thanks very much for your guidance. I'll be looking more closely at the

Parivritti drekkana now.

Lakshman, a small correction to what you wrote: It is malefics in trines to the Karakamsa that

gives knowledge of mantra/tantra/yantra. Benefics do not give this

ability.

If there is the aspect/conjunction of benefics on these malefics, then the

knowledge is used for good purposes. Otherwise, the opposite is true.

Sanjayji's chart clearly demonstrates this. He has the Moon aspecting

Karakamsa.

I just noticed that Parasara (in the Sharma edition anyway) specifies that this

applies only from Karakamsa, while Jaimini doesn't explicitly say - and neither

does Sanjayji in his translation. Can anyone suggest what the parampara

advises? I can see why it might apply only to karakamsa - given that

mantra/tantra/yantra all amount to playing with energies at the atma level.

Warm regards,

Samir

Lakshman

Brahma <lbrahma

Sun May 15, 2005 10:54 pm

RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Trines in D-9, Abilities from Parivriti D-3

Dear all in

tis thread

1st bhava which is one of the trines indicates

self.Navamsa lagna determines the Looks and

inherent

appearance of a person, in addition to the one

determined by the rasi lagna.

5th bhava: This indicated the abilities that comes

naturally and easily to a person. This is bacause

of

the knowledge practised or accumulated in the past

lives. Encouraging the activities and skills

represented by this house will enhance one' s

stature

and Image in society. Ofcoures it has to be will

placed wrt AL

to have a positive image.

9th Bhava: This signifies ones Dharma or duty one

need

to follow plus the relation with one's teacher or

elders.

The sign occupied by Ak is the karakamsa and the

trines to it indicate the abilitiesof the Atma.

that

is the aatma shakti or the ability to achieve the

desires of the AK as represented by the 7th bhava

in

D9.

benefics in trines to AK gives mantra and tantra

shakti's for good purposes and malefics in Trines

to

AK in D9 without any benefic influences gives The

Mantra /tantra shakti's for evil or destructive

purposes.

For more about D9 (navamsa) please read Varga

chakra

...

Thanks and good wishes

lakshman

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great

who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

~ om tat sat ~

Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

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||Shree Gurubyoh namah||

 

Namaste visti, and samir

Thanks for pointing out the correction. I replied from

what I remembered and I had read these a long while

ago. Now after your mail I do remember reading

papadwaye mantrika. Thanks for the corrections and I

do stand corrected.

 

Lakshman

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Visti,

 

Hare Rama Krsna.

 

>You are correct, these abilities of mantra, tantra, yantra, etc applies

>only to karakamsa.

 

A basic question: if malefics in trines to Karakamsa, then if AK is a

malefic himself, does he count also as a malefic in trines to karakamsa?

I have been pondering over this a long time, so now I ask you.

 

quoting Laksman:

>If there is the aspect/conjunction of benefics on these malefics, then

>the knowledge is used for good purposes.

 

That means I should have the Moon in Pisces Navamsa, which is my

Karakamsa, otherwise I would have only Mars aspecting which would prove

the contrary. A pluspoint for my ayanamsa.

 

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

 

web site: <http://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.html>

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Dear Dhira

Krsna Dasa, Namaskar

To your

first question the answer is yes. The AK being a malefic also counts.

Best

wishes,

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18 May 2005 19:37

 

[Om Krishna

Guru] Re: Trines in D-9, Abilities from Parivriti D-3

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10.0pt">Dear Visti,

Hare Rama Krsna.

>You are correct, these abilities of mantra,

tantra, yantra, etc applies

>only to karakamsa.

A basic question: if malefics in trines to

Karakamsa, then if AK is a

malefic himself, does he count also as a malefic

in trines to karakamsa?

I have been pondering over this a long time, so

now I ask you.

quoting Laksman:

>If there is the aspect/conjunction of benefics

on these malefics, then

>the knowledge is used for good purposes.

That means I should have the Moon in Pisces

Navamsa, which is my

Karakamsa, otherwise I would have only Mars

aspecting which would prove

the contrary. A pluspoint for my ayanamsa.

Yours,

Dhira Krsna dasa,

web site: <http://www.geocities.com/dvdd1008/Jyotisha.html>

<http://.org/learning>

~ om tat sat

~

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Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today