Chowra Prasna (RE: Who has taken the money?)

[Guest guest]

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ajay,

Namaskar

I will

start with the steps of anlayzing the prasna. Sourav had a good mail too.

Firstly, i

must correct your methodology. Does it seem reasonable to draw a prasna chart

to answer a prasna and then later ask someone else to answer it? Its like

taking going for an exam and asking the person next to you to answer it –

it doesn’t work like that.

Atleast

show us that you have analyzed the prasna so that you are trying to answer the

query, then we can correct your analysis knowing that it is a sincere

prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only assume that you have drawn the chart just

for the sake of drawing it.

So based on

the above understanding, i would discard your prasna chart, and instead draw my

own.

 

Secondly, only

one astrologer should analyze the prasna, whilst others can comment on this. Otherwise

you can have a group of people and they all draw different prasna charts... whose

will be acurate? A prasna chart is a chart drawn to ask God for a an answer to

ones querries. Be sincere when you approach God.

Now there

are some simple steps we can take to make sure our prasna is correct to answer.

 

Prepare the

natal chart and prasna chart for analysis. Follow these following steps

initially.

font-family:"Bookman Old Style"">The prasna-navamsa lagna, should match

the natal-rasi lagna. If so then the query can be answered, otherwise don’t

answer, instead wait some time, do your guru mantra, and then try to

answer again by drawing a new prasna chart.

font-family:"Bookman Old Style"">The prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of

tamasic planets (mars, saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the sincerity of

the questioner. If saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the questioner

could be holding back information or lying... usually because they are

ashamed. Here karaka is also important... if the question is about illness

and longevity then Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the query is about

longevity and death.

font-family:"Bookman Old Style"">The prasna-rasi seventh house shows how

the questioner will use the knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic

planets, but again keep in mind the karaka of the querry... if the

question is about war or battle, and mars is in the seventh house, then

the person will offcourse use the knowledge for battle.

 

After the

three above steps, you’ve almost completed the entire analysis. You

should then apply specific principles about the type of prasna, i.e. for Chowra

(theft) prasna, apply the rules to see (1) what has been stolen (2) whether the

native, a person in the house or someone else has stolen it (3) where the

article(s) have been kept. I recommend Prasna Marga and Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika

(By Prithuyasas) is a very easy book to read about Prasna.

 

We have

three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav’s and mine), so please provide the

natal chart of the native so we can choose which prasna to rely on, and progress

further in our analysis.

 

Best

wishes,

***

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[] On

Behalf Of ajayzharotia

25 April 2005 12:57

 

[Om Krishna Guru] Who has

taken the money?

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Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

Pranaam

This lady called me up today, crying, that

her husband has accused

her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are

missing from their

almirah...

Can we have some insight about the theft from

the following details...

Since I am a starter on "Prasana",

I will learn from your advice and

comments...

Prasana time- theft

Natal Chart

April 25,

2005

Time:

3:29:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00

(East of GMT)

Place:

77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

New Delhi, India

Altitude: 0.00

meters

Pranaam

Ajay

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Visti-ji,

Namaskar. Much thanks for this elaborate information

and teaching. I am using Prasna for the first time actually. I am

interested to see how it comes out. I agree and understand why we

shouldn't draw too many prasna charts. The first chart drawn (with

faith) should give all the indications that Lord wishes to give. The

analysis can be done in group, the the faith of the first astrologer

is very very important.

 

Much thanks,

 

Sourav

===================================================================

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> I will start with the steps of anlayzing the prasna. Sourav had a

good mail

> too.

>

> Firstly, i must correct your methodology. Does it seem reasonable

to draw a

> prasna chart to answer a prasna and then later ask someone else to

answer

> it? Its like taking going for an exam and asking the person next

to you to

> answer it - it doesn't work like that.

>

> Atleast show us that you have analyzed the prasna so that you are

trying to

> answer the query, then we can correct your analysis knowing that

it is a

> sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only assume that you have

drawn the

> chart just for the sake of drawing it.

>

> So based on the above understanding, i would discard your prasna

chart, and

> instead draw my own.

>

>

>

> Secondly, only one astrologer should analyze the prasna, whilst

others can

> comment on this. Otherwise you can have a group of people and they

all draw

> different prasna charts... whose will be acurate? A prasna chart

is a chart

> drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones querries. Be sincere when

you

> approach God.

>

> Now there are some simple steps we can take to make sure our

prasna is

> correct to answer.

>

>

>

> Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for analysis. Follow these

> following steps initially.

>

> 1. The prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi lagna.

If so

> then the query can be answered, otherwise don't answer, instead

wait some

> time, do your guru mantra, and then try to answer again by drawing

a new

> prasna chart.

> 2. The prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic planets

(mars,

> saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the sincerity of the

questioner. If

> saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the questioner could be

holding

> back information or lying... usually because they are ashamed.

Here karaka

> is also important... if the question is about illness and

longevity then

> Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the query is about longevity

and

> death.

> 3. The prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the questioner will

use the

> knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic planets, but again keep in

mind the

> karaka of the querry... if the question is about war or battle,

and mars is

> in the seventh house, then the person will offcourse use the

knowledge for

> battle.

>

>

>

> After the three above steps, you've almost completed the entire

analysis.

> You should then apply specific principles about the type of

prasna, i.e. for

> Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules to see (1) what has been

stolen (2)

> whether the native, a person in the house or someone else has

stolen it (3)

> where the article(s) have been kept. I recommend Prasna Marga and

> Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By Prithuyasas) is a very easy

book to read

> about Prasna.

>

>

>

> We have three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav's and mine), so please

provide

> the natal chart of the native so we can choose which prasna to

rely on, and

> progress further in our analysis.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 25 April 2005 12:57

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?

>

>

>

> *

> Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

>

> Pranaam

>

> This lady called me up today, crying, that her husband has accused

> her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are missing from their

> almirah...

>

> Can we have some insight about the theft from the following

details...

>

> Since I am a starter on "Prasana", I will learn from your advice

and

> comments...

>

> Prasana time- theft

>

> Natal Chart

>

> April 25, 2005

> Time: 3:29:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

>

> Pranaam

>

>

> Ajay

[Guest guest]

Prannam Gurudev,

 

I accept your remarks with due respact.

Definately I was unaware of the understanding of Prasana you have

given below.

 

The natal chart detail of the lady is below

 

 

Natal Chart

 

June 18, 1969

Time: 4:00:00 am

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

New Delhi, India

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

 

 

Prannam

 

Ajay

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> I will start with the steps of anlayzing the prasna. Sourav had a

good mail

> too.

>

> Firstly, i must correct your methodology. Does it seem reasonable

to draw a

> prasna chart to answer a prasna and then later ask someone else to

answer

> it? Its like taking going for an exam and asking the person next to

you to

> answer it - it doesn't work like that.

>

> Atleast show us that you have analyzed the prasna so that you are

trying to

> answer the query, then we can correct your analysis knowing that it

is a

> sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only assume that you have

drawn the

> chart just for the sake of drawing it.

>

> So based on the above understanding, i would discard your prasna

chart, and

> instead draw my own.

>

>

>

> Secondly, only one astrologer should analyze the prasna, whilst

others can

> comment on this. Otherwise you can have a group of people and they

all draw

> different prasna charts... whose will be acurate? A prasna chart is

a chart

> drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones querries. Be sincere when

you

> approach God.

>

> Now there are some simple steps we can take to make sure our prasna

is

> correct to answer.

>

>

>

> Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for analysis. Follow these

> following steps initially.

>

> 1. The prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi lagna.

If so

> then the query can be answered, otherwise don't answer, instead

wait some

> time, do your guru mantra, and then try to answer again by drawing

a new

> prasna chart.

> 2. The prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic planets

(mars,

> saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the sincerity of the questioner.

If

> saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the questioner could be

holding

> back information or lying... usually because they are ashamed. Here

karaka

> is also important... if the question is about illness and longevity

then

> Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the query is about longevity

and

> death.

> 3. The prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the questioner will

use the

> knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic planets, but again keep in

mind the

> karaka of the querry... if the question is about war or battle, and

mars is

> in the seventh house, then the person will offcourse use the

knowledge for

> battle.

>

>

>

> After the three above steps, you've almost completed the entire

analysis.

> You should then apply specific principles about the type of prasna,

i.e. for

> Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules to see (1) what has been

stolen (2)

> whether the native, a person in the house or someone else has

stolen it (3)

> where the article(s) have been kept. I recommend Prasna Marga and

> Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By Prithuyasas) is a very easy

book to read

> about Prasna.

>

>

>

> We have three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav's and mine), so please

provide

> the natal chart of the native so we can choose which prasna to rely

on, and

> progress further in our analysis.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 25 April 2005 12:57

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?

>

>

>

> *

> Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

>

> Pranaam

>

> This lady called me up today, crying, that her husband has accused

> her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are missing from their

> almirah...

>

> Can we have some insight about the theft from the following

details...

>

> Since I am a starter on "Prasana", I will learn from your advice

and

> comments...

>

> Prasana time- theft

>

> Natal Chart

>

> April 25, 2005

> Time: 3:29:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

>

> Pranaam

>

>

> Ajay

[Guest guest]

|| Hare Rama Krishna ||

 

Dear Ajay-ji,

Namaskar. I sent a reply a couple of hours ago but it

seems it hasn't reached its proper destination. Hence, I am

repeating this e-mail. Kindly give some life facts to verify the

natal data. Is birth time exactly at 4:00:00 a.m. on the dot? It

seems to be a bit surprising.

 

Regards,

 

Sourav

=================================================================

 

 

, "ajayzharotia"

<ajayzharotia> wrote:

>

> Prannam Gurudev,

>

> I accept your remarks with due respact.

> Definately I was unaware of the understanding of Prasana you have

> given below.

>

> The natal chart detail of the lady is below

>

>

> Natal Chart

>

> June 18, 1969

> Time: 4:00:00 am

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

>

>

> Prannam

>

> Ajay

>

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay, Namaskar

> >

> > I will start with the steps of anlayzing the prasna. Sourav had

a

> good mail

> > too.

> >

> > Firstly, i must correct your methodology. Does it seem

reasonable

> to draw a

> > prasna chart to answer a prasna and then later ask someone else

to

> answer

> > it? Its like taking going for an exam and asking the person next

to

> you to

> > answer it - it doesn't work like that.

> >

> > Atleast show us that you have analyzed the prasna so that you

are

> trying to

> > answer the query, then we can correct your analysis knowing that

it

> is a

> > sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only assume that you have

> drawn the

> > chart just for the sake of drawing it.

> >

> > So based on the above understanding, i would discard your prasna

> chart, and

> > instead draw my own.

> >

> >

> >

> > Secondly, only one astrologer should analyze the prasna, whilst

> others can

> > comment on this. Otherwise you can have a group of people and

they

> all draw

> > different prasna charts... whose will be acurate? A prasna chart

is

> a chart

> > drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones querries. Be sincere

when

> you

> > approach God.

> >

> > Now there are some simple steps we can take to make sure our

prasna

> is

> > correct to answer.

> >

> >

> >

> > Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for analysis. Follow

these

> > following steps initially.

> >

> > 1. The prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi lagna.

> If so

> > then the query can be answered, otherwise don't answer, instead

> wait some

> > time, do your guru mantra, and then try to answer again by

drawing

> a new

> > prasna chart.

> > 2. The prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic planets

> (mars,

> > saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the sincerity of the

questioner.

> If

> > saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the questioner could be

> holding

> > back information or lying... usually because they are ashamed.

Here

> karaka

> > is also important... if the question is about illness and

longevity

> then

> > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the query is about

longevity

> and

> > death.

> > 3. The prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the questioner will

> use the

> > knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic planets, but again keep

in

> mind the

> > karaka of the querry... if the question is about war or battle,

and

> mars is

> > in the seventh house, then the person will offcourse use the

> knowledge for

> > battle.

> >

> >

> >

> > After the three above steps, you've almost completed the entire

> analysis.

> > You should then apply specific principles about the type of

prasna,

> i.e. for

> > Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules to see (1) what has been

> stolen (2)

> > whether the native, a person in the house or someone else has

> stolen it (3)

> > where the article(s) have been kept. I recommend Prasna Marga and

> > Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By Prithuyasas) is a very easy

> book to read

> > about Prasna.

> >

> >

> >

> > We have three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav's and mine), so

please

> provide

> > the natal chart of the native so we can choose which prasna to

rely

> on, and

> > progress further in our analysis.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 25 April 2005 12:57

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?

> >

> >

> >

> > *

> > Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> > This lady called me up today, crying, that her husband has

accused

> > her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are missing from their

> > almirah...

> >

> > Can we have some insight about the theft from the following

> details...

> >

> > Since I am a starter on "Prasana", I will learn from your advice

> and

> > comments...

> >

> > Prasana time- theft

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > April 25, 2005

> > Time: 3:29:00 pm

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> > New Delhi, India

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> >

> > Ajay

[Guest guest]

dear visti ji

Hare Krishna.

i have one question regarding prashna kundali.

if one want to do a prashna regarding our life or someone in family

asked a question but at that time cud't make a chart say in car or

outside. should we note the time and then make a prashna because the

question entered the manas at that time or shud we take the current

time when we r making the chart of the query.

 

this can also be applied to internet queries. does the astrologer

take the current time for prashna or shud he ask the querist to tell

the time when the question came to his mind.

 

Regards.

Madhu

 

 

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> I will start with the steps of anlayzing the prasna. Sourav had a

good mail

> too.

>

> Firstly, i must correct your methodology. Does it seem reasonable

to draw a

> prasna chart to answer a prasna and then later ask someone else to

answer

> it? Its like taking going for an exam and asking the person next to

you to

> answer it - it doesn't work like that.

>

> Atleast show us that you have analyzed the prasna so that you are

trying to

> answer the query, then we can correct your analysis knowing that it

is a

> sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only assume that you have

drawn the

> chart just for the sake of drawing it.

>

> So based on the above understanding, i would discard your prasna

chart, and

> instead draw my own.

>

>

>

> Secondly, only one astrologer should analyze the prasna, whilst

others can

> comment on this. Otherwise you can have a group of people and they

all draw

> different prasna charts... whose will be acurate? A prasna chart is

a chart

> drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones querries. Be sincere when

you

> approach God.

>

> Now there are some simple steps we can take to make sure our prasna

is

> correct to answer.

>

>

>

> Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for analysis. Follow these

> following steps initially.

>

> 1. The prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi lagna.

If so

> then the query can be answered, otherwise don't answer, instead

wait some

> time, do your guru mantra, and then try to answer again by drawing

a new

> prasna chart.

> 2. The prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic planets

(mars,

> saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the sincerity of the questioner.

If

> saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the questioner could be

holding

> back information or lying... usually because they are ashamed. Here

karaka

> is also important... if the question is about illness and longevity

then

> Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the query is about longevity

and

> death.

> 3. The prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the questioner will

use the

> knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic planets, but again keep in

mind the

> karaka of the querry... if the question is about war or battle, and

mars is

> in the seventh house, then the person will offcourse use the

knowledge for

> battle.

>

>

>

> After the three above steps, you've almost completed the entire

analysis.

> You should then apply specific principles about the type of prasna,

i.e. for

> Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules to see (1) what has been

stolen (2)

> whether the native, a person in the house or someone else has

stolen it (3)

> where the article(s) have been kept. I recommend Prasna Marga and

> Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By Prithuyasas) is a very easy

book to read

> about Prasna.

>

>

>

> We have three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav's and mine), so please

provide

> the natal chart of the native so we can choose which prasna to rely

on, and

> progress further in our analysis.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 25 April 2005 12:57

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?

>

>

>

> *

> Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

>

> Pranaam

>

> This lady called me up today, crying, that her husband has accused

> her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are missing from their

> almirah...

>

> Can we have some insight about the theft from the following

details...

>

> Since I am a starter on "Prasana", I will learn from your advice

and

> comments...

>

> Prasana time- theft

>

> Natal Chart

>

> April 25, 2005

> Time: 3:29:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

>

> Pranaam

>

>

> Ajay

[Guest guest]

"Bookman Old Style";color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear

Madhu, Namaskar

A Prasna

chart is not drawn at the time of the question, but at the time when the

astrologer wants an answer.

At that

moment when the astrologer seeks an answer, he will approach God, and the time

when he approaches God is the time for the prasna.

Sometimes i

wait days before i wanto answer a prasna, and yet the prasna comes true.

Best

wishes,

***

10.0pt;font-family:bookman;color:navy">Visti Larsen

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[] On Behalf Of sethimadhu

27 April 2005 10:04

 

Re: Chowra Prasna (RE:

[Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?)

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dear visti ji

Hare Krishna.

i have one question regarding prashna kundali.

if one want to do a prashna regarding our life or

someone in family

asked a question but at that time cud't make a

chart say in car or

outside. should we note the time and then make a

prashna because the

question entered the manas at that time or shud we

take the current

time when we r making the chart of the query.

this can also be applied to internet queries. does

the astrologer

take the current time for prashna or shud he ask

the querist to tell

the time when the question came to his mind.

Regards.

Madhu

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> I will start with the steps of anlayzing the

prasna. Sourav had a

good mail

> too.

>

> Firstly, i must correct your methodology.

Does it seem reasonable

to draw a

> prasna chart to answer a prasna and then

later ask someone else to

answer

> it? Its like taking going for an exam and

asking the person next to

you to

> answer it - it doesn't work like that.

>

> Atleast show us that you have analyzed the

prasna so that you are

trying to

> answer the query, then we can correct your

analysis knowing that it

is a

> sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only

assume that you have

drawn the

> chart just for the sake of drawing it.

>

> So based on the above understanding, i would

discard your prasna

chart, and

> instead draw my own.

>

>

>

> Secondly, only one astrologer should analyze

the prasna, whilst

others can

> comment on this. Otherwise you can have a

group of people and they

all draw

> different prasna charts... whose will be

acurate? A prasna chart is

a chart

> drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones

querries. Be sincere when

you

> approach God.

>

> Now there are some simple steps we can take

to make sure our prasna

is

> correct to answer.

>

>

>

> Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for

analysis. Follow these

> following steps initially.

>

> 1. The

prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi lagna.

If so

> then the query can be answered, otherwise

don't answer, instead

wait some

> time, do your guru mantra, and then try to

answer again by drawing

a new

> prasna chart.

> 2. The

prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic planets

(mars,

> saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the

sincerity of the questioner.

If

> saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the

questioner could be

holding

> back information or lying... usually because

they are ashamed. Here

karaka

> is also important... if the question is about

illness and longevity

then

> Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the

query is about longevity

and

> death.

> 3. The

prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the questioner will

use the

> knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic

planets, but again keep in

mind the

> karaka of the querry... if the question is

about war or battle, and

mars is

> in the seventh house, then the person will

offcourse use the

knowledge for

> battle.

>

>

>

> After the three above steps, you've almost

completed the entire

analysis.

> You should then apply specific principles

about the type of prasna,

i.e. for

> Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules to see

(1) what has been

stolen (2)

> whether the native, a person in the house or

someone else has

stolen it (3)

> where the article(s) have been kept. I

recommend Prasna Marga and

> Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By

Prithuyasas) is a very easy

book to read

> about Prasna.

>

>

>

> We have three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav's

and mine), so please

provide

> the natal chart of the native so we can

choose which prasna to rely

on, and

> progress further in our analysis.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 25 April 2005 12:57

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the

money?

>

>

>

> *

> Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

>

> Pranaam

>

> This lady called me up today, crying, that

her husband has accused

> her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are

missing from their

> almirah...

>

> Can we have some insight about the theft from

the following

details...

>

> Since I am a starter on "Prasana",

I will learn from your advice

and

> comments...

>

> Prasana time- theft

>

> Natal Chart

>

>

April 25, 2005

>

Time: 3:29:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00

(East of GMT)

>

Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N

36' 00"

>

New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00

meters

>

>

> Pranaam

>

>

> Ajay

~ om tat sat

~

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Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

[Guest guest]

color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ajay,

Namaskar

I looked at

all three prasna charts. I decided to go with mine.

 

Prasna Chart

April 25, 2005

Time:

12:58:20 pm

Time

Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place:

12 E 25' 00", 55 N 46' 00"

Hareskov, Denmark

 

Reason is

that the seventh house in the prasna navamsa is stronger, and the trines to it

is taurus – the natives natal lagna.

 

|confirming

the theft|

Harihara

states that if Saturn is in the seventh, eighth or twelfth, then there is Chora

Prasna. This is the case as we have Cancer lagna in the prasna rasi, with

Saturn in the twelfth in Gemini.

 

Now; the

scriptures all agree that if; the prasna lagna is in a fixed signs/navamsa or

is vargottama, then the thief is a person from the household. Cancer rasi,

pisces navamsa does not show this, hence this woman has not stolen the money,

nor has the husband nor any possible children, guests or servants in the house.

Because the

lagna is a movable one, it should be inferred that the thief is already far

away.

 

Now lets

look at the chora-graha. Find the planets in watery navamsa’s: In this

case Sun, Rahu and Mercury are placed in watery navamsas.

Then see if

these planets are in kendra or sixth house from Lagna, Moon and Arudha: All

three are so placed.

If more

qualify, find the stronger: Sun is exalted and strongest.

 

If the

second or eleventh houses associate with this planet, then the wealth is stolen:

Venus is lord of eleventh houses, whilst Sun is lord of second house, and they

are joined.

The avastha

of the chora graha (sun) will indicate the relation of the person who has

stolen it. Since the Sun is in exalted rasi and friendly navamsa, it means some

rich man has the money, or someone who is a friend.

 

The Sun is

in a kendra from lagna, and will indicate the direction of the article as being

in the eastern direction.

 

|return of

money|

They will

get their money back if the karaka is strongly associated with the lagna. Jupiter

is dhana karaka and doesn’t aspect the lagna, lagnesha nor the moon, nor

is there any strong association. It is very unlikely that the money will be

returned.

Eleventh lord

shows when the gain of objective takes place, and here Venus is the eleventh

lord in the tenth house, this promises some sort of gain of obective. Venus

rules a paksha (fortnight), and is in the sixth navamsa, so within 6 pakshas (3

months), there will be some relief.

 

The only

auspicious aspect of the chart, is that the lagnesha is involved in a full-moon

combination. This means that some light will come on the subject of the theft.

Moon is lagnesh, so its likely that this woman knows the thief.

 

The amsa

passed by the lagna will tell us how long back the event happened. Moon

indicates one day, and the lagna is in the ninth navamsa, so the event would

have happened nine days back, i.e. the 16th of April.

 

The arudha

is supposed to show the place of the wealth right now. Since the questioner has

not given us an arudha, we shall rely on the arudha lagna. AL is in Libra which

indicates a bazaar or

market place.

 

Whilst i

cannot see how the wealth will return, there will be some relief in three

months time.

Best

wishes,

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[] On

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26 April 2005 20:24

 

Re: Chowra Prasna (RE:

[Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?)

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Prannam Gurudev,

I accept your remarks with due respact.

Definately I was unaware of the understanding of

Prasana you have

given below.

The natal chart detail of the lady is below

Natal Chart

June 18, 1969

Time:

4:00:00 am

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East

of GMT)

Place:

77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

New Delhi, India

Altitude: 0.00

meters

Prannam

Ajay

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> I will start with the steps of anlayzing the

prasna. Sourav had a

good mail

> too.

>

> Firstly, i must correct your methodology.

Does it seem reasonable

to draw a

> prasna chart to answer a prasna and then

later ask someone else to

answer

> it? Its like taking going for an exam and

asking the person next to

you to

> answer it - it doesn't work like that.

>

> Atleast show us that you have analyzed the

prasna so that you are

trying to

> answer the query, then we can correct your

analysis knowing that it

is a

> sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only

assume that you have

drawn the

> chart just for the sake of drawing it.

>

> So based on the above understanding, i would

discard your prasna

chart, and

> instead draw my own.

>

>

>

> Secondly, only one astrologer should analyze

the prasna, whilst

others can

> comment on this. Otherwise you can have a group

of people and they

all draw

> different prasna charts... whose will be

acurate? A prasna chart is

a chart

> drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones

querries. Be sincere when

you

> approach God.

>

> Now there are some simple steps we can take

to make sure our prasna

is

> correct to answer.

>

>

>

> Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for

analysis. Follow these

> following steps initially.

>

> 1. The

prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi lagna.

If so

> then the query can be answered, otherwise

don't answer, instead

wait some

> time, do your guru mantra, and then try to

answer again by drawing

a new

> prasna chart.

> 2. The

prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic planets

(mars,

> saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the

sincerity of the questioner.

If

> saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the

questioner could be

holding

> back information or lying... usually because

they are ashamed. Here

karaka

> is also important... if the question is about

illness and longevity

then

> Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the

query is about longevity

and

> death.

> 3. The

prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the questioner will

use the

> knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic

planets, but again keep in

mind the

> karaka of the querry... if the question is

about war or battle, and

mars is

> in the seventh house, then the person will

offcourse use the

knowledge for

> battle.

>

>

>

> After the three above steps, you've almost

completed the entire

analysis.

> You should then apply specific principles

about the type of prasna,

i.e. for

> Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules to see

(1) what has been

stolen (2)

> whether the native, a person in the house or

someone else has

stolen it (3)

> where the article(s) have been kept. I

recommend Prasna Marga and

> Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By

Prithuyasas) is a very easy

book to read

> about Prasna.

>

>

>

> We have three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav's

and mine), so please

provide

> the natal chart of the native so we can

choose which prasna to rely

on, and

> progress further in our analysis.

>

>

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 25 April 2005 12:57

>

> [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the

money?

>

>

>

> *

> Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

>

> Pranaam

>

> This lady called me up today, crying, that

her husband has accused

> her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are

missing from their

> almirah...

>

> Can we have some insight about the theft from

the following

details...

>

> Since I am a starter on "Prasana",

I will learn from your advice

and

> comments...

>

> Prasana time- theft

>

> Natal Chart

>

>

April 25, 2005

>

Time: 3:29:00 pm

> Time Zone: 5:30:00

(East of GMT)

>

Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N

36' 00"

>

New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00

meters

>

>

> Pranaam

>

>

> Ajay

~ om tat sat

~

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Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the

Achyuta Ashram.

Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare

Rama Krishna'

(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the

Great who said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for

animals.

(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

free chart reading today

Attachment: (application/octet-stream) ajay - woman accused of theft prasna (rect).jhd [not stored]

[Guest guest]

Dear Sourav

 

Namaskar

 

Sorry for late response. As far as timings issue, this is the time

given to me by the native.

 

I have been discussing this native for quite a long time now with

gurudev Visti ji. She has been going through a turmoil in her marrige

life. She has give the birth to a girl child on 31st of March 2005 at

1:47 pm New Delhi. The child was pre mature and under weight.

 

 

See if this can help in correcting the time. I will try and find out

other events in her life.

 

 

Namaskar

 

 

Ajay

 

 

 

, "Sourav Chowdhury" <souravc108>

wrote:

>

>

> || Hare Rama Krishna ||

>

> Dear Ajay-ji,

> Namaskar. I sent a reply a couple of hours ago but it

> seems it hasn't reached its proper destination. Hence, I am

> repeating this e-mail. Kindly give some life facts to verify the

> natal data. Is birth time exactly at 4:00:00 a.m. on the dot? It

> seems to be a bit surprising.

>

> Regards,

>

> Sourav

> =================================================================

>

>

> , "ajayzharotia"

> <ajayzharotia> wrote:

> >

> > Prannam Gurudev,

> >

> > I accept your remarks with due respact.

> > Definately I was unaware of the understanding of Prasana you have

> > given below.

> >

> > The natal chart detail of the lady is below

> >

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > June 18, 1969

> > Time: 4:00:00 am

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> > New Delhi, India

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> >

> >

> > Prannam

> >

> > Ajay

> >

> >

> >

> > , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> > wrote:

> > > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> > >

> > > Dear Ajay, Namaskar

> > >

> > > I will start with the steps of anlayzing the prasna. Sourav had

> a

> > good mail

> > > too.

> > >

> > > Firstly, i must correct your methodology. Does it seem

> reasonable

> > to draw a

> > > prasna chart to answer a prasna and then later ask someone else

> to

> > answer

> > > it? Its like taking going for an exam and asking the person

next

> to

> > you to

> > > answer it - it doesn't work like that.

> > >

> > > Atleast show us that you have analyzed the prasna so that you

> are

> > trying to

> > > answer the query, then we can correct your analysis knowing

that

> it

> > is a

> > > sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only assume that you

have

> > drawn the

> > > chart just for the sake of drawing it.

> > >

> > > So based on the above understanding, i would discard your

prasna

> > chart, and

> > > instead draw my own.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Secondly, only one astrologer should analyze the prasna, whilst

> > others can

> > > comment on this. Otherwise you can have a group of people and

> they

> > all draw

> > > different prasna charts... whose will be acurate? A prasna

chart

> is

> > a chart

> > > drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones querries. Be sincere

> when

> > you

> > > approach God.

> > >

> > > Now there are some simple steps we can take to make sure our

> prasna

> > is

> > > correct to answer.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for analysis. Follow

> these

> > > following steps initially.

> > >

> > > 1. The prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi

lagna.

> > If so

> > > then the query can be answered, otherwise don't answer, instead

> > wait some

> > > time, do your guru mantra, and then try to answer again by

> drawing

> > a new

> > > prasna chart.

> > > 2. The prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic

planets

> > (mars,

> > > saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the sincerity of the

> questioner.

> > If

> > > saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the questioner could

be

> > holding

> > > back information or lying... usually because they are ashamed.

> Here

> > karaka

> > > is also important... if the question is about illness and

> longevity

> > then

> > > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the query is about

> longevity

> > and

> > > death.

> > > 3. The prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the

questioner will

> > use the

> > > knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic planets, but again keep

> in

> > mind the

> > > karaka of the querry... if the question is about war or battle,

> and

> > mars is

> > > in the seventh house, then the person will offcourse use the

> > knowledge for

> > > battle.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > After the three above steps, you've almost completed the entire

> > analysis.

> > > You should then apply specific principles about the type of

> prasna,

> > i.e. for

> > > Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules to see (1) what has been

> > stolen (2)

> > > whether the native, a person in the house or someone else has

> > stolen it (3)

> > > where the article(s) have been kept. I recommend Prasna Marga

and

> > > Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By Prithuyasas) is a very easy

> > book to read

> > > about Prasna.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > We have three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav's and mine), so

> please

> > provide

> > > the natal chart of the native so we can choose which prasna to

> rely

> > on, and

> > > progress further in our analysis.

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Best wishes,

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > Visti Larsen

> > >

> > > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

> > >

> > > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

> > <http://astrovisti.com>

> > > http://astrovisti.com

> > >

> > > ***

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > [] On

> > > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > > 25 April 2005 12:57

> > >

> > > [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > *

> > > Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

> > >

> > > Pranaam

> > >

> > > This lady called me up today, crying, that her husband has

> accused

> > > her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are missing from their

> > > almirah...

> > >

> > > Can we have some insight about the theft from the following

> > details...

> > >

> > > Since I am a starter on "Prasana", I will learn from your

advice

> > and

> > > comments...

> > >

> > > Prasana time- theft

> > >

> > > Natal Chart

> > >

> > > April 25, 2005

> > > Time: 3:29:00 pm

> > > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> > > New Delhi, India

> > > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> > >

> > >

> > > Pranaam

> > >

> > >

> > > Ajay

[Guest guest]

Dear Visti,

The analysis is very good.I have a question about what you have

written about Saturn.I recently did a prasna where I was asked about someone

returning.I got Cancer lagna with Saturn in the 12th house.However here there

is no connection to any kind of theft.What else will Saturn indicate here? Just

7th lord in 12th house?

Best Regards,

Kanupriya.-"Visti Larsen" To:

Subject: RE: Chowra Prasna (RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Who has taken the money?)Wed, 27 Apr 2005 12:43:41 +0200

||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ajay, Namaskar

I looked at all three prasna charts. I decided to go with mine.

 

Prasna Chart

April 25, 2005

Time: 12:58:20 pm

Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 12 E 25' 00", 55 N 46' 00"

Hareskov, Denmark

 

Reason is that the seventh house in the prasna navamsa is stronger, and the

trines to it is taurus – the natives natal lagna.

 

|confirming the theft|

Harihara states that if Saturn is in the seventh, eighth or twelfth, then there

is Chora Prasna. This is the case as we have Cancer lagna in the prasna rasi,

with Saturn in the twelfth in Gemini.

 

Now; the scriptures all agree that if; the prasna lagna is in a fixed

signs/navamsa or is vargottama, then the thief is a person from the household.

Cancer rasi, pisces navamsa does not show this, hence this woman has not stolen

the money, nor has the husband nor any possible children, guests or servants in

the house.

Because the lagna is a movable one, it should be inferred that the thief is already far away.

 

Now lets look at the chora-graha. Find the planets in watery navamsa’s: In

this case Sun, Rahu and Mercury are placed in watery navamsas.

Then see if these planets are in kendra or sixth house from Lagna, Moon and

Arudha: All three are so placed.

If more qualify, find the stronger: Sun is exalted and strongest.

 

If the second or eleventh houses associate with this planet, then the wealth is

stolen: Venus is lord of eleventh houses, whilst Sun is lord of second house,

and they are joined.

The avastha of the chora graha (sun) will indicate the relation of the person

who has stolen it. Since the Sun is in exalted rasi and friendly navamsa, it

means some rich man has the money, or someone who is a friend.

 

The Sun is in a kendra from lagna, and will indicate the direction of the

article as being in the eastern direction.

 

|return of money|

They will get their money back if the karaka is strongly associated with the

lagna. Jupiter is dhana karaka and doesn’t aspect the lagna, lagnesha nor

the moon, nor is there any strong association. It is very unlikely that the

money will be returned.

Eleventh lord shows when the gain of objective takes place, and here Venus is

the eleventh lord in the tenth house, this promises some sort of gain of

obective. Venus rules a paksha (fortnight), and is in the sixth navamsa, so

within 6 pakshas (3 months), there will be some relief.

 

The only auspicious aspect of the chart, is that the lagnesha is involved in a

full-moon combination. This means that some light will come on the subject of

the theft. Moon is lagnesh, so its likely that this woman knows the thief.

 

The amsa passed by the lagna will tell us how long back the event happened. Moon

indicates one day, and the lagna is in the ninth navamsa, so the event would

have happened nine days back, i.e. the 16th of April.

 

The arudha is supposed to show the place of the wealth right now. Since the

questioner has not given us an arudha, we shall rely on the arudha lagna. AL is

in Libra which indicates a bazaar or market place.

 

Whilst i cannot see how the wealth will return, there will be some relief in three months time.

Best wishes,

***

Visti Larsen

Email: visti (AT) srigaruda (DOT) com

Web: http://srigaruda.com & http://astrovisti.com

***

[] On

Behalf Of ajayzharotia26 April 2005 20:24To:

Subject: Re: Chowra Prasna (RE: [Om Krishna Guru]

Who has taken the money?)

 

Prannam Gurudev,I accept your remarks with due respact. Definately I was unaware

of the understanding of Prasana you have given below.The natal chart detail of

the lady is belowNatal Chart June 18, 1969Time: 4:00:00

amTime Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

New Delhi, IndiaAltitude: 0.00 metersPrannamAjay--- In

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...> wrote:> ||Hare Rama

Krsna||> > Dear Ajay, Namaskar> > I will start with the steps of anlayzing the

prasna. Sourav had a good mail> too.> > Firstly, i must correct your

methodology. Does it seem reasonable to draw a> prasna chart to answer a prasna

and then later ask someone else to answer> it? Its like taking going for an exam

and asking the person next to you to> answer it - it doesn't work like that.> >

Atleast show us that you have analyzed the prasna so that you are trying to>

answer the query, then we can correct your analysis knowing that it is a>

sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only assume that you have drawn the>

chart just for the sake of drawing it.> > So based on the above understanding,

i would discard your prasna chart, and> instead draw my own.> > > > Secondly,

only one astrologer should analyze the prasna, whilst others can> comment on

this. Otherwise you can have a group of people and they all draw> different

prasna charts... whose will be acurate? A prasna chart is a chart> drawn to ask

God for a an answer to ones querries. Be sincere when you> approach God.> > Now

there are some simple steps we can take to make sure our prasna is> correct to

answer.> > > > Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for analysis. Follow

these> following steps initially.> > 1. The prasna-navamsa lagna, should

match the natal-rasi lagna. If so> then the query can be answered, otherwise

don't answer, instead wait some> time, do your guru mantra, and then try to

answer again by drawing a new> prasna chart.> 2. The prasna-rasi lagna

should be devoid of tamasic planets (mars,> saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate

the sincerity of the questioner. If> saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then

the questioner could be holding> back information or lying... usually because

they are ashamed. Here karaka> is also important... if the question is about

illness and longevity then> Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the query is

about longevity and> death.> 3. The prasna-rasi seventh house shows how

the questioner will use the> knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic planets,

but again keep in mind the> karaka of the querry... if the question is about

war or battle, and mars is> in the seventh house, then the person will

offcourse use the knowledge for> battle.> > > > After the three above steps,

you've almost completed the entire analysis.> You should then apply specific

principles about the type of prasna, i.e. for> Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the

rules to see (1) what has been stolen (2)> whether the native, a person in the

house or someone else has stolen it (3)> where the article(s) have been kept. I

recommend Prasna Marga and> Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By Prithuyasas) is

a very easy book to read> about Prasna.> > > > We have three Prasna charts

(yours, Sourav's and mine), so please provide> the natal chart of the native so

we can choose which prasna to rely on, and> progress further in our analysis.> >

> > Best wishes,> > ***> > Visti Larsen> > Email: <visti@s...>

visti@s...> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>>'>http://astrovisti.com>> http://astrovisti.com> > ***> > _____ > >

[] On> Behalf

Of ajayzharotia> 25 April 2005 12:57> >

[Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?> > > > * > Dear

Gurudev Visti ji and learned members> > Pranaam> > This lady called me up

today, crying, that her husband has accused > her of theft for some Rs. 50000+

which are missing from their > almirah...> > Can we have some insight about the

theft from the following details...> > Since I am a starter on "Prasana", I will

learn from your advice and > comments...> > Prasana time- theft> > Natal Chart>

> April 25, 2005> Time: 3:29:00 pm> Time Zone:

5:30:00 (East of GMT)> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00">

New Delhi, India> Altitude: 0.00 meters> > > Pranaam > > > Ajay~ om tat

sat ~Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders:

(1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become

Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said that the human stomach should

not become a graveyard for animals.(3) Practise charity in thought and deed -

do one free chart reading today ~ om tat sat ~Thank you for maintaining the

decorum of the Achyuta Ashram. Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra

'Hare Rama Krishna'(2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who

said that the human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.(3)

Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart reading today << ajay

- woman accused of theft prasna (rect).jhd >>

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Dear Gurudev,

 

Pranaam,

 

Execllent understanding and clarity

 

I will take little more time to absorb this and get back to you with

detailed comment.

 

In the mean time

 

Here are few more insight on prasana which I gathered from the

native, along with few questions.

 

1. Money use to be in almirah for a quite long time and it was hidden

in way that nobody should be able to see.

 

2. Almirah used to be locked all the time and only three people knew

about it native herself, her husband and, husband's niece.

 

3. Her husband told her that he has seen money last 7-8 day back.

Which take us to the date around 16th or 17th, which is Saturday, and

sunday.

 

4. Native use to be out whole day while her husband stayed at home on

those days.

 

5. There is time when husband's niece was alone in the house during

that week. She is in company of bad boys who use to demand money from

her quite often.

 

6. Husband is also in habit of over spending. He has extra marital

affairs where he use to spend lot of money.

 

7. Now as you say Sun and Venus represent the chora, can we relate

this to her natal chart where Sun is in UL representing husband?

 

8. Sun in 10th house shows South Direction can we take this to the

direction of the chora? Reason for this is during that week her

husband's sister visited their house for few days. She lives in South

of Delhi. And She is not well off and constant need of money.

 

9. Do you see role of husband niece or husband's sister?

 

 

Pranaam

 

 

Ajay

 

 

 

 

, "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> I looked at all three prasna charts. I decided to go with mine.

>

>

>

> Prasna Chart

>

> April 25, 2005

>

> Time: 12:58:20 pm

>

> Time Zone: 2:00:00 (East of GMT)

>

> Place: 12 E 25' 00", 55 N 46' 00"

>

> Hareskov, Denmark

>

>

>

> Reason is that the seventh house in the prasna navamsa is stronger,

and the

> trines to it is taurus - the natives natal lagna.

>

>

>

> |confirming the theft|

>

> Harihara states that if Saturn is in the seventh, eighth or

twelfth, then

> there is Chora Prasna. This is the case as we have Cancer lagna in

the

> prasna rasi, with Saturn in the twelfth in Gemini.

>

>

>

> Now; the scriptures all agree that if; the prasna lagna is in a

fixed

> signs/navamsa or is vargottama, then the thief is a person from the

> household. Cancer rasi, pisces navamsa does not show this, hence

this woman

> has not stolen the money, nor has the husband nor any possible

children,

> guests or servants in the house.

>

> Because the lagna is a movable one, it should be inferred that the

thief is

> already far away.

>

>

>

> Now lets look at the chora-graha. Find the planets in watery

navamsa's: In

> this case Sun, Rahu and Mercury are placed in watery navamsas.

>

> Then see if these planets are in kendra or sixth house from Lagna,

Moon and

> Arudha: All three are so placed.

>

> If more qualify, find the stronger: Sun is exalted and strongest.

>

>

>

> If the second or eleventh houses associate with this planet, then

the wealth

> is stolen: Venus is lord of eleventh houses, whilst Sun is lord of

second

> house, and they are joined.

>

> The avastha of the chora graha (sun) will indicate the relation of

the

> person who has stolen it. Since the Sun is in exalted rasi and

friendly

> navamsa, it means some rich man has the money, or someone who is a

friend.

>

>

>

> The Sun is in a kendra from lagna, and will indicate the direction

of the

> article as being in the eastern direction.

>

>

>

> |return of money|

>

> They will get their money back if the karaka is strongly associated

with the

> lagna. Jupiter is dhana karaka and doesn't aspect the lagna,

lagnesha nor

> the moon, nor is there any strong association. It is very unlikely

that the

> money will be returned.

>

> Eleventh lord shows when the gain of objective takes place, and

here Venus

> is the eleventh lord in the tenth house, this promises some sort of

gain of

> obective. Venus rules a paksha (fortnight), and is in the sixth

navamsa, so

> within 6 pakshas (3 months), there will be some relief.

>

>

>

> The only auspicious aspect of the chart, is that the lagnesha is

involved in

> a full-moon combination. This means that some light will come on

the subject

> of the theft. Moon is lagnesh, so its likely that this woman knows

the

> thief.

>

>

>

> The amsa passed by the lagna will tell us how long back the event

happened.

> Moon indicates one day, and the lagna is in the ninth navamsa, so

the event

> would have happened nine days back, i.e. the 16th of April.

>

>

>

> The arudha is supposed to show the place of the wealth right now.

Since the

> questioner has not given us an arudha, we shall rely on the arudha

lagna. AL

> is in Libra which indicates a bazaar or market place.

>

>

>

> Whilst i cannot see how the wealth will return, there will be some

relief in

> three months time.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 26 April 2005 20:24

>

> Re: Chowra Prasna (RE: [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the

money?)

>

>

>

>

> Prannam Gurudev,

>

> I accept your remarks with due respact.

> Definately I was unaware of the understanding of Prasana you have

> given below.

>

> The natal chart detail of the lady is below

>

>

> Natal Chart

>

> June 18, 1969

> Time: 4:00:00 am

> Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00 meters

>

>

>

> Prannam

>

> Ajay

>

>

>

> , "Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay, Namaskar

> >

> > I will start with the steps of anlayzing the prasna. Sourav had a

> good mail

> > too.

> >

> > Firstly, i must correct your methodology. Does it seem reasonable

> to draw a

> > prasna chart to answer a prasna and then later ask someone else

to

> answer

> > it? Its like taking going for an exam and asking the person next

to

> you to

> > answer it - it doesn't work like that.

> >

> > Atleast show us that you have analyzed the prasna so that you are

> trying to

> > answer the query, then we can correct your analysis knowing that

it

> is a

> > sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can only assume that you have

> drawn the

> > chart just for the sake of drawing it.

> >

> > So based on the above understanding, i would discard your prasna

> chart, and

> > instead draw my own.

> >

> >

> >

> > Secondly, only one astrologer should analyze the prasna, whilst

> others can

> > comment on this. Otherwise you can have a group of people and

they

> all draw

> > different prasna charts... whose will be acurate? A prasna chart

is

> a chart

> > drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones querries. Be sincere

when

> you

> > approach God.

> >

> > Now there are some simple steps we can take to make sure our

prasna

> is

> > correct to answer.

> >

> >

> >

> > Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart for analysis. Follow

these

> > following steps initially.

> >

> > 1. The prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi

lagna.

> If so

> > then the query can be answered, otherwise don't answer, instead

> wait some

> > time, do your guru mantra, and then try to answer again by

drawing

> a new

> > prasna chart.

> > 2. The prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic planets

> (mars,

> > saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the sincerity of the

questioner.

> If

> > saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then the questioner could be

> holding

> > back information or lying... usually because they are ashamed.

Here

> karaka

> > is also important... if the question is about illness and

longevity

> then

> > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as the query is about

longevity

> and

> > death.

> > 3. The prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the questioner

will

> use the

> > knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic planets, but again keep in

> mind the

> > karaka of the querry... if the question is about war or battle,

and

> mars is

> > in the seventh house, then the person will offcourse use the

> knowledge for

> > battle.

> >

> >

> >

> > After the three above steps, you've almost completed the entire

> analysis.

> > You should then apply specific principles about the type of

prasna,

> i.e. for

> > Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules to see (1) what has been

> stolen (2)

> > whether the native, a person in the house or someone else has

> stolen it (3)

> > where the article(s) have been kept. I recommend Prasna Marga and

> > Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By Prithuyasas) is a very easy

> book to read

> > about Prasna.

> >

> >

> >

> > We have three Prasna charts (yours, Sourav's and mine), so please

> provide

> > the natal chart of the native so we can choose which prasna to

rely

> on, and

> > progress further in our analysis.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > Email: <visti@s...> visti@s...

> >

> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 25 April 2005 12:57

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?

> >

> >

> >

> > *

> > Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned members

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> > This lady called me up today, crying, that her husband has

accused

> > her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which are missing from their

> > almirah...

> >

> > Can we have some insight about the theft from the following

> details...

> >

> > Since I am a starter on "Prasana", I will learn from your advice

> and

> > comments...

> >

> > Prasana time- theft

> >

> > Natal Chart

> >

> > April 25, 2005

> > Time: 3:29:00 pm

> > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> > Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N 36' 00"

> > New Delhi, India

> > Altitude: 0.00 meters

> >

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> >

> > Ajay

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Thank you for maintaining the decorum of the Achyuta Ashram.

> Reminders: (1) Recite the Shadakshari Mantra 'Hare Rama Krishna'

> (2) Try to become Vegetarian - remember Akbar the Great who said

that the

> human stomach should not become a graveyard for animals.

> (3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one free chart

reading today

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> Links

>

> *

> /

>

> *

>

> <?

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>

> *

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color:#FF0080">||Hare Rama Krsna||

Dear Ajay,

Namaskar

Your looking

for a scapegoat. According to the shastras the thief is found from the

drekkana. Go ahead and read.

Best

wishes,

***

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[] On Behalf Of ajayzharotia

28 April 2005 09:13

 

Re: Chowra Prasna (RE:

[Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken the money?)

12.0pt">

10.0pt">Dear Gurudev,

Pranaam,

Execllent understanding and clarity

I will take little more time to absorb this and

get back to you with

detailed comment.

In the mean time

Here are few more insight on prasana which I

gathered from the

native, along with few questions.

1. Money use to be in almirah for a quite long

time and it was hidden

in way that nobody should be able to see.

2. Almirah used to be locked all the time and only

three people knew

about it native herself, her husband and,

husband's niece.

3. Her husband told her that he has seen money

last 7-8 day back.

Which take us to the date around 16th or 17th,

which is Saturday, and

sunday.

4. Native use to be out whole day while her husband

stayed at home on

those days.

5. There is time when husband's niece was alone in

the house during

that week. She is in company of bad boys who use

to demand money from

her quite often.

6. Husband is also in habit of over spending. He

has extra marital

affairs where he use to spend lot of money.

7. Now as you say Sun and Venus represent the

chora, can we relate

this to her natal chart where Sun is in UL

representing husband?

8. Sun in 10th house shows South Direction can we

take this to the

direction of the chora? Reason for this is during

that week her

husband's sister visited their house for few days.

She lives in South

of Delhi.

And She is not well off and constant need of money.

9. Do you see role of husband niece or husband's

sister?

Pranaam

Ajay

, "Visti

Larsen" <visti@s...>

wrote:

> ||Hare Rama Krsna||

>

> Dear Ajay, Namaskar

>

> I looked at all three prasna charts. I

decided to go with mine.

>

>

>

> Prasna Chart

>

>

April 25, 2005

>

>

Time: 12:58:20 pm

>

> Time Zone: 2:00:00

(East of GMT)

>

>

Place: 12 E 25' 00", 55 N

46' 00"

>

>

Hareskov, Denmark

>

>

>

> Reason is that the seventh house in the

prasna navamsa is stronger,

and the

> trines to it is taurus - the natives natal

lagna.

>

>

>

> |confirming the theft|

>

> Harihara states that if Saturn is in the

seventh, eighth or

twelfth, then

> there is Chora Prasna. This is the case as we

have Cancer lagna in

the

> prasna rasi, with Saturn in the twelfth in

Gemini.

>

>

>

> Now; the scriptures all agree that if; the

prasna lagna is in a

fixed

> signs/navamsa or is vargottama, then the

thief is a person from the

> household. Cancer rasi, pisces navamsa does

not show this, hence

this woman

> has not stolen the money, nor has the husband

nor any possible

children,

> guests or servants in the house.

>

> Because the lagna is a movable one, it should

be inferred that the

thief is

> already far away.

>

>

>

> Now lets look at the chora-graha. Find the

planets in watery

navamsa's: In

> this case Sun, Rahu and Mercury are placed in

watery navamsas.

>

> Then see if these planets are in kendra or

sixth house from Lagna,

Moon and

> Arudha: All three are so placed.

>

> If more qualify, find the stronger: Sun is

exalted and strongest.

>

>

>

> If the second or eleventh houses associate

with this planet, then

the wealth

> is stolen: Venus is lord of eleventh houses,

whilst Sun is lord of

second

> house, and they are joined.

>

> The avastha of the chora graha (sun) will

indicate the relation of

the

> person who has stolen it. Since the Sun is in

exalted rasi and

friendly

> navamsa, it means some rich man has the

money, or someone who is a

friend.

>

>

>

> The Sun is in a kendra from lagna, and will

indicate the direction

of the

> article as being in the eastern direction.

>

>

>

> |return of money|

>

> They will get their money back if the karaka

is strongly associated

with the

> lagna. Jupiter is dhana karaka and doesn't

aspect the lagna,

lagnesha nor

> the moon, nor is there any strong

association. It is very unlikely

that the

> money will be returned.

>

> Eleventh lord shows when the gain of

objective takes place, and

here Venus

> is the eleventh lord in the tenth house, this

promises some sort of

gain of

> obective. Venus rules a paksha (fortnight),

and is in the sixth

navamsa, so

> within 6 pakshas (3 months), there will be

some relief.

>

>

>

> The only auspicious aspect of the chart, is

that the lagnesha is

involved in

> a full-moon combination. This means that some

light will come on

the subject

> of the theft. Moon is lagnesh, so its likely

that this woman knows

the

> thief.

>

>

>

> The amsa passed by the lagna will tell us how

long back the event

happened.

> Moon indicates one day, and the lagna is in

the ninth navamsa, so

the event

> would have happened nine days back, i.e. the

16th of April.

>

>

>

> The arudha is supposed to show the place of

the wealth right now.

Since the

> questioner has not given us an arudha, we

shall rely on the arudha

lagna. AL

> is in Libra which indicates a bazaar or

market place.

>

>

>

> Whilst i cannot see how the wealth will

return, there will be some

relief in

> three months time.

>

> Best wishes,

>

> ***

>

> Visti Larsen

>

> Email: <visti@s...>

visti@s...

>

> Web: <http://srigaruda.com>

http://srigaruda.com &

<http://astrovisti.com>

> http://astrovisti.com

>

> ***

>

> _____

>

>

[] On

> Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> 26 April 2005 20:24

>

> Re: Chowra Prasna (RE: [Om Krishna

Guru] Who has taken the

money?)

>

>

>

>

> Prannam Gurudev,

>

> I accept your remarks with due respact.

> Definately I was unaware of the understanding

of Prasana you have

> given below.

>

> The natal chart detail of the lady is below

>

>

> Natal Chart

>

>

June 18, 1969

>

Time: 4:00:00 am

> Time Zone: 5:30:00

(East of GMT)

>

Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N

36' 00"

>

New Delhi, India

> Altitude: 0.00

meters

>

>

>

> Prannam

>

> Ajay

>

>

>

> ,

"Visti Larsen" <visti@s...>

> wrote:

> > ||Hare Rama Krsna||

> >

> > Dear Ajay, Namaskar

> >

> > I will start with the steps of anlayzing

the prasna. Sourav had a

> good mail

> > too.

> >

> > Firstly, i must correct your

methodology. Does it seem reasonable

> to draw a

> > prasna chart to answer a prasna and then

later ask someone else

to

> answer

> > it? Its like taking going for an exam

and asking the person next

to

> you to

> > answer it - it doesn't work like that.

> >

> > Atleast show us that you have analyzed

the prasna so that you are

> trying to

> > answer the query, then we can correct

your analysis knowing that

it

> is a

> > sincere prasna-chart. Otherwise we can

only assume that you have

> drawn the

> > chart just for the sake of drawing it.

> >

> > So based on the above understanding, i

would discard your prasna

> chart, and

> > instead draw my own.

> >

> >

> >

> > Secondly, only one astrologer should

analyze the prasna, whilst

> others can

> > comment on this. Otherwise you can have

a group of people and

they

> all draw

> > different prasna charts... whose will be

acurate? A prasna chart

is

> a chart

> > drawn to ask God for a an answer to ones

querries. Be sincere

when

> you

> > approach God.

> >

> > Now there are some simple steps we can

take to make sure our

prasna

> is

> > correct to answer.

> >

> >

> >

> > Prepare the natal chart and prasna chart

for analysis. Follow

these

> > following steps initially.

> >

> > 1. The

prasna-navamsa lagna, should match the natal-rasi

lagna.

> If so

> > then the query can be answered,

otherwise don't answer, instead

> wait some

> > time, do your guru mantra, and then try

to answer again by

drawing

> a new

> > prasna chart.

> > 2. The

prasna-rasi lagna should be devoid of tamasic planets

> (mars,

> > saturn, rahu and ketu) to indicate the

sincerity of the

questioner.

> If

> > saturn is in the prasna-rasi lagna, then

the questioner could be

> holding

> > back information or lying... usually

because they are ashamed.

Here

> karaka

> > is also important... if the question is

about illness and

longevity

> then

> > Saturn in lagna is perfectly fine, as

the query is about

longevity

> and

> > death.

> > 3. The

prasna-rasi seventh house shows how the questioner

will

> use the

> > knowledge you give them. Avoid tamasic

planets, but again keep in

> mind the

> > karaka of the querry... if the question

is about war or battle,

and

> mars is

> > in the seventh house, then the person

will offcourse use the

> knowledge for

> > battle.

> >

> >

> >

> > After the three above steps, you've

almost completed the entire

> analysis.

> > You should then apply specific

principles about the type of

prasna,

> i.e. for

> > Chowra (theft) prasna, apply the rules

to see (1) what has been

> stolen (2)

> > whether the native, a person in the

house or someone else has

> stolen it (3)

> > where the article(s) have been kept. I

recommend Prasna Marga and

> > Krishneeyam. Also Shatpancasika (By

Prithuyasas) is a very easy

> book to read

> > about Prasna.

> >

> >

> >

> > We have three Prasna charts (yours,

Sourav's and mine), so please

> provide

> > the natal chart of the native so we can

choose which prasna to

rely

> on, and

> > progress further in our analysis.

> >

> >

> >

> > Best wishes,

> >

> > ***

> >

> > Visti Larsen

> >

> > Email: <visti@s...>

visti@s...

> >

> > Web: <http://srigaruda.com> http://srigaruda.com &

> <http://astrovisti.com>

> > http://astrovisti.com

> >

> > ***

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> [] On

> > Behalf Of ajayzharotia

> > 25 April 2005 12:57

> >

> > [Om Krishna Guru] Who has taken

the money?

> >

> >

> >

> > *

> > Dear Gurudev Visti ji and learned

members

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> > This lady called me up today, crying,

that her husband has

accused

> > her of theft for some Rs. 50000+ which

are missing from their

> > almirah...

> >

> > Can we have some insight about the theft

from the following

> details...

> >

> > Since I am a starter on "Prasana",

I will learn from your advice

> and

> > comments...

> >

> > Prasana time- theft

> >

> > Natal

Chart

> >

> >

April 25, 2005

> >

Time: 3:29:00 pm

> > Time Zone:

5:30:00 (East of GMT)

> >

Place: 77 E 12' 00", 28 N

36' 00"

>

>

New Delhi, India

> > Altitude:

0.00 meters

> >

> >

> > Pranaam

> >

> >

> > Ajay

>

>

>

>

>

> ~ om tat sat ~

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the Great who said

that the

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for animals.

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(3) Practise charity in thought and deed - do one

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